EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS: CELTICS VS. HEAT

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Who will win?

  • Heat in 4

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Heat in 5

    Votes: 4 23.5%
  • Heat in 6

    Votes: 4 23.5%
  • Heat in 7

    Votes: 3 17.6%
  • Celtics in 4

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • Celtics in 5

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Celtics in 6

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • Celtics in 7

    Votes: 4 23.5%

  • Total voters
    17
  • Poll closed .
Jun 23, 2005
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you guys cant seriously be complaining about lebron getting bogus calls against him...he's the king of getting wack calls. the refs were giving bullshit calls both ways, so that cancels out that.
 

Joey

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The wack calls when both ways..KG didnt travel, peirce made some contact on battier and battier flopped and peirce fouled out. If lebron would have not went to the floor his final foul would have not been called..The weak fouls went both ways.

I dont care what any of you say..Mario Chalmers can play some basketball..
 

Rasan

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May 17, 2002
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That Magic team that year was pretty damn good. What got Cleveland in trouble that year was Orlando's three point shooting. Cleveland would be up 20+ points at halftime, then Orlando would come out shooting threes and get right back in it. Plus, Ilgauskas couldn't guard Dwight Howard. That team was pretty good, which is why I still can't understand why they even broke them up.
Because our old gm otis smith is an idiot. Glad he is gone!
 
Sep 24, 2006
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if you watch that last foul for lebron when he fouled out watch how he grabs dudes arm and holds it. that same fould was called in the 4th qtr on garnett. the only reason both players fell is cuz lebron was holding his arm and pushing back on him. It was a good call imo.
 
Jan 18, 2006
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The wack calls when both ways..KG didnt travel, peirce made some contact on battier and battier flopped and peirce fouled out. If lebron would have not went to the floor his final foul would have not been called..The weak fouls went both ways.

I dont care what any of you say..Mario Chalmers can play some basketball..
I agree about Chalmers. Hes been really ballen as of late. Some bad calls both ways is right, Heat have no excuses except Bosh being out
 
Apr 20, 2003
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Question: so what you are saying is that you are only ok with players who are traded and not ok with players that control their own destiny?
No, every player HAS THE RIGHT to chose his destiny but personally I just really dislike how Bron ended up chosing his and making it a big spectacle/shrade.... The proclaimed KING of basketball left his own home squad to join another top 5 player's (Wade) team to be super powers in the East. You're the King of basketball so why not write your OWN DESTINY on your OWN TEAM, not join anothers. To make you greater is to want to beat the best players in the game, not join em! Like I've said Bron is a baller and I dont question his skills but his decision making made ME dislike him in ever getting a ring.
 
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No, every player HAS THE RIGHT to chose his destiny but personally I just really dislike how Bron ended up chosing his and making it a big spectacle/shrade.... The proclaimed KING of basketball left his own home squad to join another top 5 player's (Wade) team to be super powers in the East. You're the King of basketball so why not write your OWN DESTINY on your OWN TEAM, not join anothers. To make you greater is to want to beat the best players in the game, not join em! Like I've said Bron is a baller and I dont question his skills but his decision making made ME dislike him in ever getting a ring.
^^^^bruh, do u realize that u need at least 3 great players on your team to win a title? Please tell me the "great" players Lebron had on the cavs with him. Mo williams? Lol. Antawn jamison? Lol. Jemario moon? Lol. JJ hickson? Lol. Damon jones? Lol. Shaq at 38yrs old? Lol. Big Z? Lol. You cnt win a title by yourself. We should applaud Lebron for wanting help. Jordan had help, magic had help, Bird had help, Tim Duncan had help.. and I don't know why people keep harpin on the fact that Lebron "left" his hometown. That's all fantasy land bullshit. 1st of Lebron is from Akron. Akron and Cleveland are hella far apart geographiclly. He didn't owe Cleveland anything. For example one of my goog homies used to play for the 9ers, he's from frisco too. But the 9ers cut his ass in a heartbeat and sent him packin. So people need to stop with the notion that a player has 2b loyal to his hometeam. A team will cut a player in a blink of an eye regardless if that player is from that city or not.i Applaud Lebron for bossin up and sayin "fuck this shit, I did my 7yrs in Cleveland, I'm takin control of my own destiny and I'm bouncin to a bettr situation at a better chance of winning" case closed. I don't kno how people could have a problem with anyone having a say on where they wana play or work
 

Tony

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^It should have been more of a challenge to LeBron to lead his own team to the NBA Finals (and win) is all we're saying. And in leading your own team to the Finals, he should be beating Wade, Rondo.... that is what made Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, and Michael Jordan great. They all faced and beat each other as rivals. Boston beat the Bulls in the playoffs but Mike never left to join forces so he could beat the Celtics and Pistons. He stayed on the Bulls and the team developed with Jordan into champions. Then they started beating everybody (Pistons, Celtics, Knicks, Lakers)

Lead your own team!
 
Jun 23, 2005
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dirk won a title with no other great players on his squad. who was great on the mavs? jason terry? lol chandler? lol jj barea? lol a 38 yr old kidd? lol he beat the super team by himself, did what lebron couldn't do in Cleveland.

(yeah he had help winning it, but with no great players, thats why i said by himself)
 

Meta4iCAL

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^It should have been more of a challenge to LeBron to lead his own team to the NBA Finals (and win) is all we're saying. And in leading your own team to the Finals, he should be beating Wade, Rondo.... that is what made Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, and Michael Jordan great. They all faced and beat each other as rivals. Boston beat the Bulls in the playoffs but Mike never left to join forces so he could beat the Celtics and Pistons. He stayed on the Bulls and the team developed with Jordan into champions. Then they started beating everybody (Pistons, Celtics, Knicks, Lakers)

Lead your own team!
The difference is Magic, MJ, and Bird had great players around them. I have yet to see someone name the great players lebron had around him in cleveland... People just say he didn't have a garbage team, they won so many games, always made the playoffs, made the NBA finals, etc... Yeah, they did all that because of lebron!

Just about every really good team in the nba has a "big 3"

Thunder, Lakers, Spurs, Celtics, Heat...

Name the big three from cleveland when lebron was there. I'll be waiting all day for this.
 

Meta4iCAL

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dirk won a title with no other great players on his squad. who was great on the mavs? jason terry? lol chandler? lol jj barea? lol a 38 yr old kidd? lol he beat the super team by himself, did what lebron couldn't do in Cleveland.

(yeah he had help winning it, but with no great players, thats why i said by himself)
Yeah, but that was an exception. The mavs just caught fire in the playoffs last year. Most great teams now have their big 3
 
Jan 12, 2006
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The difference is Magic, MJ, and Bird had great players around them. I have yet to see someone name the great players lebron had around him in cleveland... People just say he didn't have a garbage team, they won so many games, always made the playoffs, made the NBA finals, etc... Yeah, they did all that because of lebron!

Just about every really good team in the nba has a "big 3"

Thunder, Lakers, Spurs, Celtics, Heat...

Name the big three from cleveland when lebron was there. I'll be waiting all day for this.
What Big 3 did the Mavericks have?

If Lebron was a one man team that took the Cavs to 60+wins and the Finals wouldn't the addition of Wade and Bosh automatically equal multiple Championships??
 

Tony

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The difference is Magic, MJ, and Bird had great players around them. I have yet to see someone name the great players lebron had around him in cleveland... People just say he didn't have a garbage team, they won so many games, always made the playoffs, made the NBA finals, etc... Yeah, they did all that because of lebron!

Just about every really good team in the nba has a "big 3"

Thunder, Lakers, Spurs, Celtics, Heat...

Name the big three from cleveland when lebron was there. I'll be waiting all day for this.
It's all about leadership. Magic, Larry, and Michael were leaders of their teams. You don't need 3 great players to win a championship (if that's the case the Heat would have won last year). Dirk stepped up and led his team last year. Durant is stepping up and leading his team this year. Duncan has stepped up and led his team in the past.
 

Tony

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LeBron doesn't want or like the pressure, that's why he went to Miami. He said that he didn't want to have to score 30 everynight for his team to win a championship, Jordan/Kobe/Bird/Magic would do whatever they had to do for their teams to win a championship.

Magic played center his rookie year in game 6 of the finals and scored 42 points to help the Lakers win.

That's why Magic is a multiple champion and LeBron is 0-2 in the finals so far.
 

Rossibreath

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^It should have been more of a challenge to LeBron to lead his own team to the NBA Finals (and win) is all we're saying. And in leading your own team to the Finals, he should be beating Wade, Rondo.... that is what made Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, and Michael Jordan great. They all faced and beat each other as rivals. Boston beat the Bulls in the playoffs but Mike never left to join forces so he could beat the Celtics and Pistons. He stayed on the Bulls and the team developed with Jordan into champions. Then they started beating everybody (Pistons, Celtics, Knicks, Lakers)

Lead your own team!
Ya in sports you have to be loyal to one team your whole life or else your a fem
 
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It's all about leadership. Magic, Larry, and Michael were leaders of their teams. You don't need 3 great players to win a championship (if that's the case the Heat would have won last year). Dirk stepped up and led his team last year. Durant is stepping up and leading his team this year. Duncan has stepped up and led his team in the past.
Yeah, also in hindsight a lot of those teams mentioned above are considered great because they won titles, can you imagine if Magic, Larry, and Michael didn't come through for their squads in the clutch, some of the players who surround them might not be as relevant as they're today. For example people didn't think much of the Mavs before the playoffs started last season, once the playoffs were over teams got in bidding wars over their players, most of their squad became relevant. I'm sure if LeBron would've won the Cavs a ring we would look at his roster a whole lot different.
 
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LeBron doesn't want or like the pressure, that's why he went to Miami. He said that he didn't want to have to score 30 everynight for his team to win a championship, Jordan/Kobe/Bird/Magic would do whatever they had to do for their teams to win a championship.

Magic played center his rookie year in game 6 of the finals and scored 42 points to help the Lakers win.

That's why Magic is a multiple champion and LeBron is 0-2 in the finals so far.

U sound rediculous man. Lebron has been playin with pressure his whole life. Lebron just scored 40 points in the pacers series and guarded all 5 positions. He shut down granger and played D on Roy Hibbert.
Lebron has been playin D on all 5 positions all year. So are u saying that since Agic played center that's why he's a champion? Cmon now. That sounds crazy. So Lebron scores 40 in a playoff game and gusrs multiple positions means that he's a champ? No. Your premise about magic is null ikn void