Do humans DESERVE to be saved?

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Jan 31, 2008
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no, im talking about the guy who implements the bible blindly in every thread while speaking of having true morals of a book that represents the truth, and then in a thread asking if humans deserve to be saved calls himself out by attacking another person who was actually supporting him and resorts to name calling and childish primitive destructive behaviour.
 
Oct 20, 2008
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no, im talking about the guy who implements the bible blindly in every thread while speaking of having true morals of a book that represents the truth, and then in a thread asking if humans deserve to be saved calls himself out by attacking another person who was actually supporting him and resorts to name calling and childish primitive destructive behaviour.
wth? lol. u need to b more specific is all im sayin. i asked u a question n u acted like a snob, thas why i acted that way. how else is ne one gonna act?
 

ThaG

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native americans thrived so long because they respected nature n played by the rules, so they 'deserved' to thrive from snow to rainforest respecting and also sometimes contributing to the balance of nature.
native americans didn't thrive all the time, some of them did, but those who developed a civilization, destroyed the environment in a very similar way to the way we do it right now, and their society eventually collapsed
 
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I believe that people were smarter when we were in sync with nature and respected this earth as our Mother; the main souce as a spiritual, physical, and food provider. As time progressed and humans began to think outside of the box and invent machines to take shortcuts or make long winded processes shorter, or more convenient and less tedious, the more carnal knowledge of how to do things the old primal way are lost over a long period of time. I think that mankind as a whole is naïve to the fact that we are actually retarded in the sense that in the twentyfirst century we get our info from books, high speed internet, radio, and television and we utilize these mediums mostly for entertainment instead of enlightenment, therefore society dumbs us down by bombarding the masses with advertisements and dole out only the tidbits of info they want us to know. For example, not even aided with the new age technology of today we haven't figured out how stonehenge or the pyramids were built hundreds of years ago, and those who lived long ago are looked upon as a primal or "uncivilized" to the western civilizations of today.
Indegenous peoples of what we know today as the Americas had working irrigations systems and had mapped out the celestial bodies in space while people in the caucus mountains were still trying to figure out how to strike fire. In summation, humans were more resourceful in the age of innosence when everyone in the heirarchy worked towards common goals that were beneficial to society as a whole and now that every individual is out for their own personal gain we live in a world capitalism is king. Who profits? Certaintly not the other living creatures like wildlife, plants & insects who are directly connected to these environments (where man hasn't finished raping and stripping natural resources for their own motives propelled by greed) ultimately cannot adapt fast enough to succeed in surviving for future generations.
 
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We have to evolve beyond using forms of currency to allocate resources and begin to use them wisely and collectively. With proper resource allocation we could remedy many if not most of what ails humanity. But we do not see the benefit of this idea. People are not good to each other.
 
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native americans didn't thrive all the time, some of them did, but those who developed a civilization, destroyed the environment in a very similar way to the way we do it right now, and their society eventually collapsed
which ones are u talkin about? the mayan/incan/aztec tribes?
 
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I believe that people were smarter when we were in sync with nature and respected this earth as our Mother; the main souce as a spiritual, physical, and food provider. As time progressed and humans began to think outside of the box and invent machines to take shortcuts or make long winded processes shorter, or more convenient and less tedious, the more carnal knowledge of how to do things the old primal way are lost over a long period of time. I think that mankind as a whole is naïve to the fact that we are actually retarded in the sense that in the twentyfirst century we get our info from books, high speed internet, radio, and television and we utilize these mediums mostly for entertainment instead of enlightenment, therefore society dumbs us down by bombarding the masses with advertisements and dole out only the tidbits of info they want us to know. For example, not even aided with the new age technology of today we haven't figured out how stonehenge or the pyramids were built hundreds of years ago, and those who lived long ago are looked upon as a primal or "uncivilized" to the western civilizations of today.
Indegenous peoples of what we know today as the Americas had working irrigations systems and had mapped out the celestial bodies in space while people in the caucus mountains were still trying to figure out how to strike fire. In summation, humans were more resourceful in the age of innosence when everyone in the heirarchy worked towards common goals that were beneficial to society as a whole and now that every individual is out for their own personal gain we live in a world capitalism is king. Who profits? Certaintly not the other living creatures like wildlife, plants & insects who are directly connected to these environments (where man hasn't finished raping and stripping natural resources for their own motives propelled by greed) ultimately cannot adapt fast enough to succeed in surviving for future generations.
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What direction have humans ever really had? It is usually not until it's too late that we realize we're fucked. If there is a God then humans are completely oblivious to God's will and direction; this being the case, if God has not and will not intervene to at least lay out some type of plan then humans can not be expected to obide by God's will. This being the case, if it is true, all humans deserve to be saved. If there is no God then the same can be said; humans are usually in dire straits or oblivious to the current state. By this I ascertain, if we are left to decide that by establishing a precedent, a way of life, in order to keep civilization in tact as a means of survival, and that by doing so we are going to harm this planet, are humans to be reproached? I think not.
 
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Good read FT. I agreed with a good bit of it.

Can a child be guilty of murder? Can a sheep be guilty of logical fallacy?

In the same way I dont believe humanity as a whole has reached the level of awareness in which it is entitled to culpability.

I believe those at the top who have transcended the question of personal survival have the time to ponder these questions and understand this reality and thus can be blamed. Those people (i.e. the Global North, etc.) tend to be the largest destroyers of environment and humanity. White people colonized, raped, pillaged, and sickened the world's people, and now they are with the same hand destroying the world's home. If anything, I say burn the crackas first.
 

BASEDVATO

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May 8, 2002
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I'm kinda thinking that every system on this planet reproduces seeds and sperm. Some how through a social evolution we have gotten fixated to power, control, greed, wealth... we all want a million dollars.

Yet we are smart enough to recognize our problems, but to dumb to fix them... if we fix it we live, if we don't we'll die... and there your question will be someday truly be answered.

As of now, yes we should be able to be saved... because there is still hope for humanity, just maybe not in the next 4 to 10 lifetimes.