I didnt want to get off another Kobe discussion, but if you insist. Your missing a big point here. Jordan was the leader of his team the first 7 years was he not? The first couple seasons he had a losing record because he was adapting to his spot on the team. How long has Kobe be in that position? 10-15 games? I never said Kobe was a leader, but no one can be throw to the wolves and succedd just like that. Jordan with his first couple losing seasons didnt win untill Pippen came. The same would happen with Kobe, he would have a couple losing seasons, gain a couple top draft picks, and the same would happen. Kobe is not anywhere near the mental minstate that Jordan was, but anyone with the ability of Kobe, Jordan, McGrady sould do the same. Not make it to the finals year after year as MJ has, but SUCCEED.