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May 13, 2002
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MEXCOM said:
No, are you fucking serious?

Maybe it should matter because the children's caretakers are subjected to the parents approval. If the parents dont believe he should smoke or take drugs before or during his tenure they have every right to be mad. Ergo as he is providing a service to the parents and the children it is up to those receiving the service to validate whether or not those providing the service meet certain qualifications. That's why it should matter.
I would understand if someone who gets high does stupid shit. But I don't believe it is ANY of the parent's business what the caretaker does before going to work. It's their own time, and they are not smoking in front of the kids nor telling them that it's ok to do it. And smoking weed is a lot different than other drugs, so obviously other drugs, even alcohol, shouldn't be used at all.

I don't know why it's so hard for some of you to understand that people can be under control and still do things very efficiently when they're "high" on marijuana. It really shouldn't matter what the fuck people do before they go to work as long as they're doing a great job and don't let it affect them negatively.
 
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Lamberto Quintero said:
I don't know why it's so hard for some of you to understand that people can be under control and still do things very efficiently when they're "high" on marijuana. It really shouldn't matter what the fuck people do before they go to work as long as they're doing a great job and don't let it affect them negatively.
^^^that's real...coming from a fellow functional pothead, who's done just about everything high, including work/study...
 
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Lamberto Quintero said:
I would understand if someone who gets high does stupid shit. But I don't believe it is ANY of the parent's business what the caretaker does before going to work. It's their own time, and they are not smoking in front of the kids nor telling them that it's ok to do it. And smoking weed is a lot different than other drugs, so obviously other drugs, even alcohol, shouldn't be used at all.
Your arguement has two fallacies.

The first being that you don't believe the parent's should know what the person does before going to work. This falls short because we don't know what the person is going before work. He could be a pothead. Probably no danger there. Or he could be a registered sex offender. And since the children's safety is ultimately the parents responsibility and because of this they should have every right in knowing who is taking care of their children. I don't know why you're arguing against that. It's not your, or my decision, but the parents. And since the outcome is ultimately "anti-drug users" it is once again not in YOUR favor.

Secondly you have just proven, yes you really have just proven,that you know little or nothing about the law, especially laws regarding care and service. Care to explain what the four components of negligence are and how this not only affects the children and the parents but also, if not especially and more importantly, the school system? And then care to illustrate how that ties into the parents and the school needing to know what he does before he comes into work?

Lamberto Quintero said:
I don't know why it's so hard for some of you to understand that people can be under control and still do things very efficiently when they're "high" on marijuana. It really shouldn't matter what the fuck people do before they go to work as long as they're doing a great job and don't let it affect them negatively.
And I've known tons of meth/cocaine/heroin addicts that aren't your typical strung out 90lb fiends. Not everyone fits the junkie/pothead sterotype. But I still wouldn't trust any of these people around my children. You might, I wouldn't. And since everyone pays for these services, be it taxation or some other stipend, then those paying the school district have every right to demand some method for them to filter out undesireables from working at the school.
 
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The first being that you don't believe the parent's should know what the person does before going to work. This falls short because we don't know what the person is going before work. He could be a pothead. Probably no danger there. Or he could be a registered sex offender. And since the children's safety is ultimately a responsibility of the parents and due to this they should have every right in knowing who is taking care of their children. I don't know why you're arguing against that. It's not your or my decision and since the outcome is ultimately anti-drug users it is once again not YOUR decision.
Obviously a registered sex offender would be a completely different matter, why do you even bring that up here? Of course the parents should have every right to know who is taking care of their children, they should meet the people taking care of their children and get to know them. I am not arguing against that at all. I also don't believe it is any of their business what these people do in their personal time, and this includes every second they are not working and on the clock.

Like I said, there are people who can act straight and do everything very efficiently when they're high. And they shouldn't have to tell anyone that they smoke before going to work, as long as it doesn't have a negative affect on what they're supposed to be doing at work. Do you feel the same way about people smoking ciggarettes? I would say most people wouldn't trip as much on ciggies, because they go on a smoke break and come back like its nothing, no big change.

Well, with a lot of people, including me, weed is the same way. I could go on a break while I'm at work, smoke a little bit, and come back like nothing happened and continue to do my work efficiently. People don't understand this and view marijuana as simply just another drug, but ignorance shouldn't make people who smoke weed suffer in the work world.

MEXCOM said:
Secondly you have just proven, yes you really have to anyone with half a brain which might exclude most everyone reading this post, that you know nothing about the law. Care to explain what the four components of negligence are and how this not only affects the children and the parents but also, if not especially, the school system? And then care to illustrate how that ties into the parents and the school needing to know what he does before he comes into work?
Do people have to say if they smoke ciggarettes on their breaks too? Like I said before, it's the ignorance that people have towards marijuana. It is no one's business, not the school, not the parents, not the students, not ANYONE's, what teachers and workers at a school do in their personal time. And I do know the laws against marijuana, but allow me to say fuck them. And I definitely dont believe that people should be able to use marijuana smoking against someone if they sue for some reason. I think that's what you're referring to...


MEXCOM said:
And I've known tons of meth/cocaine/heroin addicts that aren't your typical stung out 90lb fiends. Not everyone fits the junkie/pothead sterotype. But I still wouldn't trust any of these people around my children. You might, I wouldn't. And since everyone pays for these services, be it taxation or some other stipend, then those paying the school district have every right to demand some method for them to filter out undesireables from working at the school.
They can filter people out, it's not like they hire the dumbest people. I'm sure they hire and keep people who can do their job, otherwise they would get fired. If you as a parent have something against weed smokers around your children, are you gonna go everywhere and make sure everyone who they encounter doesn't smoke weed? What if your doctor smoked weed, would you find a new one? Dentist? What if your kid needed medical help and only a pothead doctor was around, would you refuse help? Don't judge people soley on marijuana use!
 
Apr 11, 2003
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First of all....don't fucking lie....in a professional environment always tell the truth.

Secondly, tell him EXACTLY what you just told us. Don't hold back or try to scam him, just spill out exactly what you told us. I am absolutely positive if he read your thread he would keep you on.

And fuck....don't smoke weed at work, and dont go high to work. If you like your job so much why would you risk it by doing something like that, use common sense.
 

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find a different job if you aren't willing to change ways but my point is, i highly doubt any of y'all are 100% goodie two shoes so don't point fingers without giving the finger to yourself.
 
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I'd be pissed if my future kids were being watched by a pothead. I have a right to know..and I guarantee you 95% of parents would be pissed if they ever found out...
 
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ok this thread wasnt about me gettin high before work.. i just happened to mention it because i was kinda high when this news came about and i was also trippin on the my lyric book missin... actually with that being said... im sure if some of the parents read my lyrics they wouldn't feel comfortable with me watching there kids either but does that mean i don't a right to artistic expression or what... well real talk ive only smoked a few times before work and i don't go in super blown just a few hits to relax.... well anyway im out the shower right now about to go hit up this little meeting and just let it all out to this dude ive never even met.......... thanks for wishin me luck to dude that did......... im out........ i'll hit up this thread when im back from work.... yeah they allowin me at least till friday....... and thanks to all yall guilt trippin mf's i wont be smoking today before......
 
Jun 23, 2002
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It's pretty simple. The way I see it, potheads are going to be with you and non-weed smokers are going to be against you..either way I hope you keep your job I wouldn't wish anyone getting fired over bullshit