Dam, Dam, Dam

BIG REESE LOC1 · Feb 10, 2003

I be on here trippin when I see posts on here talkin bout what some of yall "riders" will do when you see scraps. the shit has become somewhat entertaining to me. I have met Big Oso before, and he a real cool muthafucka out there doin his thang, I have spoken with MTown Criminal and he seems to be real about his too, and my muthafuckin homie from way back StrangerESSJ, I know for a fact him and his homies was out there reppin hard and puttin in work. Some of yall that love to come on here and tell these war stories, I wonder if you really puttin it down like that, or are you just tryin to make yourself look like a down muthafucka in front of your peers. Fools thats really out there puttin it down wont have to come on here or even go around tellin war stories, why? cause other fools will be tellin them for you, and all you gotta say is yea, I did that. I dont ever see Woodie on here speakin on how he ran into a scrap at the store and how he ridin on them fools. Cuz just keep it simple, he rep Norte and takes on any and all things that come along with that. I wonder how many of yall would "square up" when guns start gettin pulled, and murders start occuring? When commitments to the Department of Corrections start getting handed out. How deep are you willing to go? These prisons are full of drop-outs, folks that wasnt ready to go the distance, and folks that chose different paths for thier lives. You might want to cahnge and not be a hard-core blood thirsty scrap killin Norteno all your life. Why cause 2 things happen, either they get life sentences and have indeterminate SHU terms, or they get murdered, and that goes for all gangs. You gotta understand the difference between a Prison gang and a street gang if you really gettin deep off in this shit. Are some of yall Nortenos cause thats the cool thing to do right now? Just like for a time it was cool to be a crip or blood. Now the cool thing to do is be a rapper or a CEO of a record company. Folks that be jumpin to whatever cool is for that minute are suckas, period. Be yourself. I remember in San Jo, everyone was a CRIP. Then when other shit was comin out some fools switched up to playas, and other shit like that. I'm from Los Angeles originally and I been doin this Crip shit now since I was 13yrs. I'm 27 now. Wherever I go, I rep East San Jo, I aint gotta really sit here and tell you that, fools that know me or have seen me around will tell you. Alot of folks was Crips in SJ cause wasnt no real Bloods around. I've been through Los Angeles, Bakersfield, and now I live in Sac in a blood neighborhood, tatted with EAST SIDE SJ 408 CRIP tats. Again I aint gotta say that, cause muthafuckas know already. I dont be on these boards doin that double C spelling and sayin how I hate scraps and bloods and pirus. Thats that young shit. I aint trippin like that no more. After you do a lil time and see the bigger picture for what it is, some of you will start to have different views also. Like I said on another post, some of yall should really holla at your G homies and get laced on game, and when I say G homie, I'm speakin fools 40 & older that have been through the system, not no hot headed 21yr old that been in YA all his life. All that to say, just be real about yours, cause if you aint someone will come along and test that ass. Like when I seen that post on how everyone was gonna go up to Monterey and ride on Lil Rob, then the next day I see a post that only the homie Oso showed up. That was a post with fools that had every reason under the sun on why they were no shows. I even seen Oso up at the Siccness BBQ, he was out there reppin for that ENE, I respect that shit cause homie walk what he talk

For all yall cats that say the Surenos are hiding in San Jose, I will now give you a virtual "Sur in SJ" tour at no charge, what you do with the info is on you. For some it will be an eye opener, for others they will get on here and post that, "they went to these areas, and didnt see shit, or they went all flamed up and nothin happened". Whatever. So next time any of you visit the beautiful city of San Jose, make sure you hit these spots:

EAST SAN JOSE
Gramercy Dr. - Varrio Gramercy X3
Stowe & Hellers - Sur Por Vida (SPV)
11th & Keyes *The Happy Hollow area* Varrio Sur Towne aka Varrio Sur Trece ~Tokers Towne~ (VST)
Varrio Sur Locos (VSL)
Tami Lee Area - Tami Lee Gangsters, and East Side Clanton
24th street - VArrio Mexicano Locos (VMLs) and Paysano Locos

WEST SAN JOSE
Williams St.- Varrio Williams
So. 1st. (Washington Area) - Sur Santos Pride (SSP) *keep an eye open cause they wear alot of New Orleans Saints gear! Santos = Saints*
Cadillac Dr. Varrio Sur Towne ~Malos~ (VST) and West Side Clanton

There are many more, but these are just a few I can think of off the top of my head. In these area you will see some southerners, and they aint lil border brother kids, they are real deal fools, some straight from So. Cal.

For you talkers....time to earn them stripes boy!!!:devious:

*cant wait to see the interesting replies to this post*

HEAVYMETALGANGSTER · Feb 10, 2003

REAL TALK GET DOWN CUZZO,
AN I ALWAYS GET FROM PEOPLE WHY I WRITE WIT 2 C'S AND ITS KNOWN THAT I GOT MAS HOMIES AND FAM THAT BE CRIPPIN SO THA 2 C'S SHOWIN LUV....
AN IM REALLY FEELIN THE PART BOUT THA OG'S CAUSE I SEE ALOT OF PEOPLE COME ON HERE AND ASK QUESTIONS AN I BE SAYIN GET AT YOUR OG'S OR VETE'S AND IF YOU AINT GOT ONE IN YOUR AREA HOLLA AT A OLDER HOMIE YOU KNOW THATS GOT KNOWLEDGE OR FOR FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE HIT THA PEN

FC ENE · Feb 10, 2003

I agree with what was said above. I know I posted that story about me and the mutts. but check it, I explained how I got beat down, and how shit really went. my story was to show other enes how mutts program on the streets, cause everyone knows how they program in the pen. I myself have been to YA and the pen, so I dont want to every be confused with a hot headed youngster telling war stories. I just noticed how ppl on here are sketchy with mutts, so I took it upon myself to enlighten some ppl.
Plus I repeaditly explain how I am outnumbered and only got a handful of homies out here, being that I was displaced due to being locked up. I mean its not like I can go and just kick it with an established gang like WFN or TCB overhere. So I just got the old homies that stayed true and stayed ene.

I am not taking this post as being meant for me (but who knows maybe it is) I am just taking advantage of it cause, by the replies I got from my post seemed like I was going for props, when what I was doing was GIVING ENES FROM OUTSIDE THE 559 A PERSPECTIVE OF DEALING WITH BOTH MUTTS AND SCRAPS.

just look at the reply big deebo wrote, " its easy for us enes in the 559 to spot a mutt from a homie" I just want all the other homies to be able to spot one more easier.

IF anyone comes to Fresno county they will know that Norte is not the in thing to be, it is the opposite, so many ppl jumping on the mutt program and so many ppl being scraps. we are outnumbered so much that in any situation we must show are presence 100 times harder than most ppl have to. I always say we got our own struggles, so I hope no one confuses me for a phony. I honestly dont need anyones respect on here to keep doning what I do. I am what I am logged on or not.

This is in response to some pm's I got. Why name names, just know even if all of you laughed and made fun of me so what. I am what I am. I do what I do. Peace to the homies on here.

BIG REESE LOC1 · Feb 10, 2003

FC ENE-
I can respect that. No my post wasnt directed soley at you. I made a "blanket" statement about some of the things that I been seeing on this board. Unlike other cats that wont name names, I will. BUT, this was a blanket statement, no names to be named. Just tryin to get some feed back from some of yall

Stay Strong FC ENE

Legman · Feb 10, 2003

@everyone

yea man i know what u sayin...plus i dont know Oso personally but 4rm what i hear 4rm him N otherz ...hez one of the realest homiez here...alot of foolz come on here to read bout shit...then go brag 2 there homiez bout how thye know everything...im kinda new on this norte shit...but my cuzzin iz a norteno...so i learn alot 4rm him...i dont bang..nor do i intend 2...but due 2 the fact that i have beef wit scrapz...on a personal level...i tend 2 lean on nortez side...yea i can dmit i aint been thru half the shit alot of ppl on here have....but i know what dirt i have N havent done...some shit on here getz me laughin...alot of foolz tryna say they rep norte...but when they get ran up on by scrapz....they stare @ them wit a blank look N say " i dont bang...i juss like red"...itz happen 2 me b4...flamed up in delhi iz like askin 4 a death wish....but 2 make a long story very short...i thru down...i made the chioce 2 wear red...N i faced what was goin 2 be dealt 2 me...4 all u that say...ur down 2 blast scrapz N this N that...if u gotta say that shit..much less online....ur phony...cuz ive seen death...ive witnessed ppl get shot...trust me...u choke up when u hear that gat pop off...ive never done dirt wit a strap...N i only intend 2 if my family iz involved...it aint hard 2 shot a gun...but it iz hard 2 aim-shot-N-witnes the body drop...

N tha pen iz a good place 2 get laced wit game...but if u wanna prove ur a man...N u got heart...do sumthing 4 the community...if u got a popz(if ur that lucky)...sit down wit him N listen 2 sum of hiz stroiez...go to school...do good in school...grow up 2 be sumthing...alot of us(all ppl)wont be lucky N turn out 2 be a "jay-z" or "P.Diddy"...thatz all the shit u dream of....u gotta put in work(not dirt)...2make it like them...u think puffy iz a gangsta?...thatz nonsence...he was a school boy...u can make a chioce....either u go to school,college,MIT,ITT ect. ....do good...pay attention...N listen 2 ur parentz...cuz they aint gonna be there all the time...make them happy...show them that u can make it thru life witout them....or...u can choose 2 live the street life(homeless) or a druggie...i dont need 2 stress the factz about sreetlife...cuz alot of u have been there b4(im lucky i never have)...but i got homiez that tell me stroiez...itz not a good way of life....but who am i 2 tell yall what 2 do...do whatever u want

BIG REESE LOC1 · Feb 10, 2003

^^^ Thats some real shit. Its easy to get locked up over some crazy shit, most fools doin time respect the cat thats out there doing positive shit. REAL TALK. Thanks for those words homie, they may open up the yes of some of these "killers"

Legman · Feb 10, 2003

@everyone

it iz easy 2 get locked up on crazy shit...but itz not easy 2 make it in life...thru school,training,work ect...juss dont look @ us as killaz...cuz tell u the truth....many of the nortenoz in my town put in work 4 the town...clean up N shit...they all got jobz...N they look 4ward 2 makin there parentz happy..N havin kidz...N gettin married...tell yall the truth....im 16....youngsta....still learnin...but if u read what i said above...i learned up 2 now...everything i said iz what ive learned...i never had a OF 2 lace me...i saw shit wit my eyez....ive put in work where itz due...

N 2 all the homiez on here...u need sumthing...4rm help wit homework 2 ridin on sum foolz....herez my number...i dont care if itz 3am...im alwayz willin 2 teach or ride...yall showed me luv here...so i wanna show love in person

209-410-2052...my name iz armen...hit me up whenever yall come 2 turlock 2 man...im gettin lonely out here...plus i wanna sit back drink a 40 N get laced wit sum game by sum of the otherz homiez(18-27)

HEAVYMETALGANGSTER · Feb 10, 2003

THATS LIKE WHEN I SAID WHO'S DOWN TO MEET IN PERSON,CAUSE IT BE KOO TO SEE FACES WITH SUM THESE NAMES AN SEE HOW PEOPLE ARE IN PERSON.IVE DONE MET HELLA PEOPLE IN PERSON NOT FROM THIS FORUM,WELL ONE DCL ENT MET HIM WHILE WE WAS IN THA HOOD CHILLEN N HE STRUCC THROUGH.
LIKE I TELL PEOPLE I MET FROM ONLINE I NEVER TRY TO COME OFF AS THE HARDEST MUTHA FUCCA IN THA BAY,I GOT HATERZ N SHIT TALKERS WHO SAY IM NOT DOWN N THIS N THAT BUT THATS WITH ALL HATERZ THEY TALK,BUT ASK ANY TRU HOMIES THAT KNOW ME AND THEY'LL TELL YOU,IM GLAD REESE MADE THIS POST I FEW HOMIES IVE CHATTED WITH I CAN TELL THEY GOT KNOWLEDGE AN ARE DOWN LIKE MY YAHOO CARNAL STRANGER HAHAH JUST MESSIN HOMIE.
LIKE ON A FEW POSTS IVE SAID LETS GET OFF THIS GANG BANGIN TALK AN DO WHAT THIS FORUMS FOR TALK BOUT SUM MUSIC.
IM LIKE EVERYONE ELSE TRYIN 2 MAKE A BUCC AN HELP MY FAMILY IN THESE CRAZY N HARD TIMES,ITS TRUE BE DOWN FOR YOUR BARRIO BUT ALSO GET THAT EDUCATION CAUSE U DONT WANNA BE IN YOUR 30'S STILL WONDERING WHAT U GONNA DO IN LIFE.
LIKE RUDOG I WAS NOT TRYING TO CHECC HIM ITS JUST HE SAID HE WAS RETIRED AN I DONT GET THAT AN HE SAID HE SAW MUTTS N RATS IN GREAT AMERICA,BUT THATS HIS LIFE.
THIS POST GONNA BRING SUM REAL THOUGHTS 2 THE TABLE N I HOPE PEOPLE TALK THIS THREAD SERIOUS N OPEN YOUR EYES,
FC ENE WE ALL GOT WHAT U WAS TALKIN BOUT FOLKS,STAY UP

Legman · Feb 10, 2003

4 sho...u can tell who the real mutha fuckaz r by the way they carry themselvz on here...FC ENE iz real as fuck...he put it down...didnt brag...juss told yall 2 keep N eye out 4 these punk ass muttz...also BIG REESE LOC1...over here givin yall info on the streetz in san jo....u can tell he knowz what hez talkin bout...i wanna see who replyz 2 this thread....cuz itz gonna weed the fake out 4rm the real...im likin this post already

DADDY · Feb 10, 2003

BIG REESE LOC1 said:

LOL!

DAMN, I WAS THINKING THE SAME SHIT READING THROUGH A COUPLE POSTS HERE AND THERE.

AtUrAyAcAmEl said:

YOU GOT A GOOD HEAD ON YOUR SHOULDERS FOR 16. KEEP DOIN IT.

I RIDE FOR MY FAMILY & MYSELF : BANGIN AINT NEVER REALLY BEEN MY THING JUST CAUSE I WAS NEVER TOO DEEPLY AFFILIATED & WAS NEVER THE FAD TYPE OF MAFUCKA. I GREW UP BY MYSELF FOR MYSELF SO NOTHING ELSE REALLY APPEALED TO ME. I SKIPPED THE GANGBANG ROUTE SEEING A LOT OF REAL FOLKS DOIN IT. I KNOW IF YOU GONE BANG, BETTER RIDE FOR THAT COLOR LIKE YOU RIDING FOR YOUR LIFE. I GOT FOLKS THAT AINT HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO BANG CAUSE THEY WAS BORN INTO IT.

REESE GOOD TOPIC

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Legman · Feb 10, 2003

@everyone

thanx homie...yea man 4 16 i got sum knowledge in me...i juss tell yall what i know N see..N if u choose 2 listen N do...then maybe ull be good in life...or bad...the decisionz i made in life...were cuz i learned N put my knowledge 2 use...but hey...u dont see me livin the life ballin do u?...do what u gotta do...itz ur life man

STRANGERESSJ · Feb 11, 2003

Good topic Reese
Made me think twice about posting how I rode on that scrap at the store. (Now I feel this topic was meant for me in a way for what I've posted) but yeah it's still a blanket comment. But like Reese said, he's been knowing me for a while, and the work we put in.
True there is scrapas in San Jo.
I remember the "hot spot" VMLs scrapas territory.
And Gramercy, those fools have been known to ride hard on the homies. I mean ESSJ still represents NORTE and we got scrapas, and they gotta be dealt with. *I feel stupid for not doing anything about it lately*
This thread has lots of valid info, and is appreciated.

BIG REESE LOC1 · Feb 11, 2003

Over 120 views, and only a handful of replies?

AnthonyCG · Feb 11, 2003

good post

LocoSide · Feb 11, 2003

damn im glad somebody else is feelin the same way....i was out there in monterey for the lil rob show and nortenos were a no show....nuthin but surenos all over....and they werent no paisas they were some LA lookin fools....and all those excuses is just cover up for either them being lazy, or they fakin or they would rather be out poppin collars tryin holla at broads....i remember back in '91-95 when muthafuckas put the set before anything else....muthafuckas who repped till the casket dropped or kept on reppin through preston or the state P....fools stayin true to the game...not just talkin it, they livin it....thats why i got hella respect for people like c-bo, who puts it down no matter what....willin to risk it all (money, fame, freedom) all for the game....puttin the game before fame....95% of this board is talkers who come on here and sell tickets and trade war stories to earn some net stripes cuz they got none on the block....the other 5% is really in the hood (not a nice suburb) everyday out there dealin with the drama of bangin or slangin, puttin it down for they set or city....ENOUGH OF THE LAME EXCUSES...IF U AINT GONNA RIDE JUST KEEP YER MOUTH CLOSED

stay up reese loc i feel u

HEAVYMETALGANGSTER · Feb 11, 2003

thats how it always is hella views no replies
@ Stranger
a homie dont feel bad like you aint doin nothing lately,cause what we suppose to do homie? its homies like me and you an a few others on this forum that put in work,but it aint like we can be out their every few days an handle business,cause sooner or later fifties gonna catch up,this aint an excuse its real talk,also you gotta know this an this a real mutha fuccin fact,scrap snitch.its like its koo for them to put in work,yet when sum homies do it they go crying to the police .
this internet has so many ways for people to find out info an then come on chats an forums an then they act like some real gangsters when they not,ive said time n time again i aint no cholo,ima bay rida west bay....
like i was choppin game wit my young potna from turloco,we was real talkin an spittin game.
alot of these youngstas out here have no vete's or og's in they hoods or they being misguided by someone with no real knowledge bout the struggle.
Reese i respect you hella folks you from tha C side an not only that you got knowledge.
LEADER N VAMPS from LA an they aint bangin but they got more knowledge about our struggles then most these people that write on this board.
i say this time n time again,i dont claim to be tha hardest foo in tha bay an ya yall might run into people that talk hella bad bout me,but talk 2 sum real homies that know me an they'll tell u im a solid azz rida n homie,like i told homie last night on tha phone just cause i aint never been to tha pinta dont mean i aint got tha balls.
BIG oso you too i dont know you but you got hella knowledge an seem hella koo.
Stranger damn stranger my san jo nero locsta much luv homie see u at 24 fitness lol.
FC ENE in alot of ways has it worse then alot of us,shit homie could be walkin down the street an he could be jammed up by either a frog faced mutt or a sewer rat ass scrapa.
like a vete once told me a killer never talks,if he a solid ass soldier hill take his orders do his duty then party afterwards an never speak on what he did.
Woodie posts when theirs sum ladies involved hahaha just messin homie,i feel your music an we all know where your hearts at an keep that Co Co county succa free.
also like i was saying weeks ago we should get a bbq goin so we can all meet an see who shows up an after that people will know real from fake.
Big Reese brought something to the table that needed to be stressed an like every other thread hella views no posts.
stay real in 2003 - 2004 with all this terror n war ,its hard to even be in a struggle let alone need to worry about some cyco bombin us.livin in tha bay these days just got harder.

Legman · Feb 11, 2003

right...?...man sum of the shit i see on this board makez me laugh...juss stupid shit that needz 2 be deleted...i know we got sum net bangin wanna-bez on here cuz we had the one homie askin where he can find loccz?...@ timez this board iz fallin short on what it should be...but itz all good...but yea man we was choppin it up last night...keepin it turlock-408 style...yall can ask homie right here^^^^...i look like a rich boy wit gramz....but when it comez down 2 it...im the first one on the block posted wit a bat ready 2 ride on sum bitchez....i can admit i came 4rm the ghetto...i lived in the ghetto almost all my life...but my parentz started investin there money...now i live in a sumwhat good neighborhood...200k crib...nothin fancy...but iz it wrong 2 come up....yea i might have a 20 in my pocket every time i go out...but lately itz been hard....this crib sucked the life out of us...but i still keep it gutter...i still roll wit the locced foolz 4rm westside turlock...i gotta remember where i came 4rm...i aint gonna sit here N bullshit 2 yall...plus i know most of these net geekz dont wanna listen 2 us real homiez get down N try 2 lace sum of them wit game...

@all the real homiez...im wit homie right here....BBQ soundz good...my dadz been cuttin back on them ribz...but yea man...if yall r down...imma come thru wit sum assyrian food lmao...but yea...whatz up wit the real folx chilen wit a 40 N a paper plate...juss spreadin the love thru out cali?

YOUNG BREW · Feb 11, 2003

REAL SHIT REESE LOC

THIS IS WHAT I CALL A "NECESSARY POST"....THIS KIND OF POST IS NEEDED EVERY NOW AND AGAIN..TO REMIND MUTHAFUCKERS THAT SHT IS REAL...AND LIFE OUTSIDE THIS WEBSITE DOES EXIST..WETHER THEY WANT TO BELIEVE IT OR NOT...

I KNOW ALOT OF FOLKS WHO COME ON HERE AND LAY THERE 2 CENTS DOWN..ARE SPEAKIN ON NOTHIN BUT PREMEDIATED BULLSHIT...AND THAN AGAIN..THERE ARE THE ONES WHO COME ACROSS AS ACTUALLY BEING GAMED ON WHAT THERE SPEAKING...

IF YOU ARE A SUPER BANGER..AND U RYDIN ON FOLKS EVERYDAY..OK...THAN SPEAK ON IT..IF YOU JUST SOMEONE LIKE ME..WHO HAS DONE YOUR SHARE FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD..AND HAVE SEEN THE GOOD AND BAD SIDE OF THE "GAME" AS WE CALL IT...THAN SPEAK ON THAT...IF YOUR A STR8 NERD WHO PERPITRATES VIA THE NET BUT AINT SHIT IN REALITY...DONT SPEAK ON IT...DO US ALL A FAVOR AND KICK ROX

ONCE AGAIN...GOOD POST BIG REESE...KNWLEDGE IS POWER..PEEPS NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION

Legman · Feb 11, 2003

good post Mtown....keepin it real homie...i think alot of foolz should take after what u say....cuz itz not a game...itz life or death...N most of us r livin it..my situation iz diffrent...but yet one in the same

CHRISHOGGALYPSE · Feb 11, 2003

things have been said along these lines here and there before, but i am feelin this thread, even if you are trying to direct any of the negative things at me homie.

i have stated my position on all this before. i no longer bang Norte, due to my religious preferance, and somewhat in part to my profession. but i still have a hatred for scrapas cause i was basically born in to it coming from watsonville. but i have moved all over here these past few years for many reasons, but still stay down for mine and i'll be damned if someone would front on me especially a scrapa. whoever it be out there that is really down for theirs, stay up and real. for the others, stay up and out of the bullshit struggle within yourself to try and impress others on a website.

Good thread and very strong points proven throughout homies. stay up

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