D day for Fedor?

[Shogun Locc]

Visiting the U.S. in hopes of finding a "final solution" regarding the fighting home of heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko (Pictures), the Russian's management team, which includes Vadim Finkelstein and Apy Echteld, are scheduled to meet with UFC officials Thursday in Las Vegas to discuss a deal that would bring the PRIDE champion into the octagon for the first time.

Having visited the City of Angels since Monday, Emelianenko's representatives will return to Europe Friday afternoon deal or not. Following negotiations with the International Fight League, Strikeforce, K-1 and UFC, it is the Zuffa-promoted UFC that has to this point made the best offer to secure Fedor's services, Echteld told Sherdog.com through e-mail.

Reportedly several sticking points remain between the UFC and Fedor Emelianenko (Pictures)'s management: the potential for Fedor's Red Devil teammates to join him in the octagon; the ability for Fedor to fight in Russian Sambo tournaments; and the desire to be involved in MMA events in his homeland.

"Our trip is not to shop between the organizations but to come to a final solution," Echteld said. "Unless we go for the UFC, Fedor will be a free agent."

Emelianenko, like many fighters under PRIDE contract when the Japanese company was purchased by Zuffa earlier this year, was forced into limbo as he searched for a new ring to call home. He last fought and won in April against Matt Lindland (Pictures) in St. Petersburg, Russia, on a BodogFight-promoted card.

 

[heyzel]

man fedor & dana need to stop bullshitin and get this shit done randy vs fedor is a history making fight

 

[Robby2Slobby]

For real, Dana needs to give Fedor what he wants and get him in the octagon.

Another champion vs. champion match..

It'd be nice if they could announce it at the Rampage/Henderson match...

But Couture v. Fedor would be a true UFC v. Pride match in every sense.

 

[PsyDaL]

Heres my understanding about UFC and contracts. Look at the demands Fedors management are asking. They want their fighters to fight also, they have some talent im sure they are hinting that they want Aleksander to fight for UFC, him wanting to participate in Sambo and MMA events in Russia. If he signs with the UFC then its an exclusive right for him only to compete in UFC and the UFC only. I mean look in the past with BJ Penn and Jens Pulver you can throw Brandon Veras attempts to compete in another organization. They dont want to risk him being a champion then losing in another organization. Dana White will forever talk shit about him just like he did when Wanderlei was gonna fight one time against Chuck but then ended up fighting CroCop and gettin his skull kicked off his body.

He has all the opportunity to any organization IFL, building a roster around him at heavyweight, Russia will be a force in IFL K1 will pay him great but if he wants to prove himself worthy their aint much competition for him unless he decides to fight standing up at the k1 tournaments.

 

[SuiPSYedKing]

I hope he signs would be nice to see 2 of the best champs go at it.

 

[Shogun Locc]

Heres my understanding about UFC and contracts. Look at the demands Fedors management are asking. They want their fighters to fight also, they have some talent im sure they are hinting that they want Aleksander to fight for UFC, him wanting to participate in Sambo and MMA events in Russia. If he signs with the UFC then its an exclusive right for him only to compete in UFC and the UFC only. I mean look in the past with BJ Penn and Jens Pulver you can throw Brandon Veras attempts to compete in another organization. They dont want to risk him being a champion then losing in another organization. Dana White will forever talk shit about him just like he did when Wanderlei was gonna fight one time against Chuck but then ended up fighting CroCop and gettin his skull kicked off his body.

He has all the opportunity to any organization IFL, building a roster around him at heavyweight, Russia will be a force in IFL K1 will pay him great but if he wants to prove himself worthy their aint much competition for him unless he decides to fight standing up at the k1 tournaments.

If fedor does sign with FEG he does not have to compete in K-1 tournaments he would could compete in K-1 heros the MMA orgainization an they already have sergei kharitanov, allistair overrem, and some K-1 heavys who compete in MMA and Besides Josh barnett is waiting to see where fedor signs.

 

[PsyDaL]

k-1 heros yes. But really how much great heavyweights do they possibly have to feed Fedor. Sure it will be a success of somewhat in Japan but for the US market, no ones gonna want to pay 40 to see Fedor fight a sergei, or an allister maybe Brock Lesner but still hes years into competing with the bigboys. Josh is still relatively unknown in the US. Not too many people know that Josh beat the great Randy Couture, at least the new UFC fans. I mean UFC could sign Josh Barnett give him a few tough fights and if he proves himself then they could build up the Couture vs Barnett II. Remember fights in UFC are made mostly by what the people want to see. If there is a high demand and news circulate on how good of a fight Couture vs Barnett II will be then they will be forced to....

 

[Shogun Locc]

k-1 heros yes. But really how much great heavyweights do they possibly have to feed Fedor. Sure it will be a success of somewhat in Japan but for the US market, no ones gonna want to pay 40 to see Fedor fight a sergei, or an allister maybe Brock Lesner but still hes years into competing with the bigboys. Josh is still relatively unknown in the US. Not too many people know that Josh beat the great Randy Couture, at least the new UFC fans. I mean UFC could sign Josh Barnett give him a few tough fights and if he proves himself then they could build up the Couture vs Barnett II. Remember fights in UFC are made mostly by what the people want to see. If there is a high demand and news circulate on how good of a fight Couture vs Barnett II will be then they will be forced to....

Whos said anything about Heros having fedor fight Heavys in the US? Heros is going to focus more on the japanese market first. If they do come back to the U.S( which I doubt) they are going to have to do a better job then they did last time.

 

[PsyDaL]

Well if Fedor wants to fight no namers so be it because if theres ever a time he gets beat by the likes of an Alister Overeem then no ones gonna look at him the same in MMA. Wasnt the last K1 back in june a Heros event? thats what i was getting the whole japan heros is a different issue cause well thats in japan. But to me that event was a flop. The way I saw it at that particular point in time was that yes maybe they will have success putting a hero's show in japan having Fedor headlining it but will it be more successful than Fedor vs. Randy coutoure?

Fedor vs Randy will be the equivalent of Muhamad Ali vs. Foreman. It will be an extremely successful event around the globe and I hope for that fact it will go down in either Russia or LA Memorial or better yet at Madison Square Gardens that will be the ultimate right there.

 

[Shogun Locc]

Well if Fedor wants to fight no namers so be it because if theres ever a time he gets beat by the likes of an Alister Overeem then no ones gonna look at him the same in MMA. Wasnt the last K1 back in june a Heros event? thats what i was getting the whole japan heros is a different issue cause well thats in japan. But to me that event was a flop. The way I saw it at that particular point in time was that yes maybe they will have success putting a hero's show in japan having Fedor headlining it but will it be more successful than Fedor vs. Randy coutoure?

Fedor vs Randy will be the equivalent of Muhamad Ali vs. Foreman. It will be an extremely successful event around the globe and I hope for that fact it will go down in either Russia or LA Memorial or better yet at Madison Square Gardens that will be the ultimate right there.

Fedor has acomplished alot in MMA and does not need to prove anything If he does not want to. No the last K-1 heros event was july 16th in japan which was the middle weight grand prix. The LA event was dynamite usa a colab with K-1 and elite XC. I think A Fedor vs Josh would be a more successful fight then against Randy couture.

 

[PsyDaL]

^^^ a fighter always wants to keep fighting the best not the average. Josh Barnett vs Fedor will be a great fight no doubt but noway in this earth will it garner the attention that fighters should get be it a fedor vs coutour. I guarantee you a fedor vs josh fight will go under the radar just like the matt lindland vs fedor fight.


An how many people dropped everything to watch a k1 hero event?? I want to see a great fight just as you im sure. I dont even you tube fights anymore its been since last year since i did. So if I happen to read about an event more likely than not Id have forgotten who fought in it. But for sure id love to see a fedor fight live and in person....

 

[Shogun Locc]

^^^ a fighter always wants to keep fighting the best not the average. Josh Barnett vs Fedor will be a great fight no doubt but noway in this earth will it garner the attention that fighters should get be it a fedor vs coutour. I guarantee you a fedor vs josh fight will go under the radar just like the matt lindland vs fedor fight.


An how many people dropped everything to watch a k1 hero event?? I want to see a great fight just as you im sure. I dont even you tube fights anymore its been since last year since i did. So if I happen to read about an event more likely than not Id have forgotten who fought in it. But for sure id love to see a fedor fight live and in person....

No shit but he has accomplished alot in his career. He may not have been a champion in another weight class like couture but he has won a heavyweight tournament that had some heavys that posed a threat to him. Are you kidding Josh barrnet vs Fedor emilienenko fight would be very big fight in Japan since both are established names over there. Fedor is not even a established name in the U.S. only the hardcore fans know about him not the casual fans. Those are the people that zuffa is marketing toward not the hardcore fans.

 

[heyzel]

[ I think A Fedor vs Josh would be a more successful fight then against Randy couture.[/QUOTE]


locc I will have to disagree on that one randy & fedor is history in the making my man go to any mma site an thats all you will see treads about randy vs fedor.

Fedor vs Randy will be the equivalent of Muhamad Ali vs. Foreman. shit man you hit this one on the head PsyDaL

 

[PsyDaL]

Im not in Japan tho. And yes hardcore fans would love to see it take place but most of those hardcore fans are gonna youtube it for find a link to show it live which in turn is gonna slowly kill MMA.

Fedor is still young and has many years ahead of him but the way his management is handling the situation I guess in the end they are just out for his interests financially....

 

[Shogun Locc]

[/QUOTE]locc I will have to disagree on that one randy & fedor is history in the making my man go to any mma site an thats all you will see treads about randy vs fedor.

Fedor vs Randy will be the equivalent of Muhamad Ali vs. Foreman. shit man you hit this one on the head PsyDaL[/QUOTE]

well thats your opinion an I still think Josh barnett vs Fedor emilieneko would be a better fight then with couture. Remmeber father time will eventually catch up to randy. and He only had 2 fight coming back to the heavyweight division.

 

[PsyDaL]

^^^ and that is why Its time to get Fedors John handcock on a contract for a bout anywhere between dec - june....

2 great fights that shows hes more than ready to keep fighting in the Heavyweight Division.

Josh Barnett is a smart guy when hes focus'd but when he's bitter and his ego kicks in thats his demise. Talkin all that shit to a company that could sure use his services, is taking a page out of Frank Shamrocks book and is making it harder for him to get employed somewhere else. If I was a great fighter I would going with the grain instead of against it. He has a great personality but I could see this time apart from a fight is affecting him bigtime.

Josh Barnett vs Fedor will be better in UFC than in K1, bodog, elitexc kotc,Icon choose your favorite organization....

 

[Shogun Locc]

^^^ and that is why Its time to get Fedors John handcock on a contract for a bout anywhere between dec - june....

2 great fights that shows hes more than ready to keep fighting in the Heavyweight Division.

Josh Barnett is a smart guy when hes focus'd but when he's bitter and his ego kicks in thats his demise. Talkin all that shit to a company that could sure use his services, is taking a page out of Frank Shamrocks book and is making it harder for him to get employed somewhere else. If I was a great fighter I would going with the grain instead of against it. He has a great personality but I could see this time apart from a fight is affecting him bigtime.

Josh Barnett vs Fedor will be better in UFC than in K1, bodog, elitexc kotc,Icon choose your favorite organization....

I disagree Josh vs Fedor would be bigger in K-1 since they(I repeat again) are both established names in japan. Josh ahs not fought in the ufc since taking the title from couture. Fedor has never fought in the ufc. 2 fight at heavyweight is not a tear in the heavyweight division. While Im glad punk ass sylvia does not have the belt any more Randy still has not fought agiansts Nogueira, Arlovski, Vera, Fillopovic, Mir, or Herring.

 

[PsyDaL]

All it takes for UFC to show Josh Barnett bout on a Unleashed or that new UFC show thats gonna be shown on Mynetwork and its a WRAP!!!! But UFC doesnt why? cause its not in the greatest of their interest. And Im no way saying Randy Couture has been on a tear but your disrespecting his abilities and great battles he has done in the Octogon. Its not like Randy aint known in Japan either as he has fought great fights in Japan as well.

Never think the possible is the impossible because how long did it take for UFC to buy out Pride, and get Wanderlei to sign him up? Money is gonna bring Fedor over here.

And I guarantee you that the Fedor vs Randy fight is gonna bring back the cold war....

 

[Shogun Locc]

All it takes for UFC to show Josh Barnett bout on a Unleashed or that new UFC show thats gonna be shown on Mynetwork and its a WRAP!!!! But UFC doesnt why? cause its not in the greatest of their interest.

No Im not disrespecting his abilities or battles in the ufc but he can't be the heavyweight champ for ever. no shit I know he has fought in the japanese orgainization RINGS you ain't telling me anything that I don't know.

Or Fedor will sign with another organization because it's not always about the money

 

[PsyDaL]

I got enough topics of discussion to have a nice debate next time I go out to eat sushi with my Jits class....I thank you MMA Guru til the next UFC event....