Cube speaks on Ice-T & Soulja Boy situation..

[synical dj]

NOT TRU...

THEY AINT RUNNIN SHIT CUZ THEY MORE ENTERTAINING OR MORE TALENT'D THAN OTHER ARTISTz....

IF THAT WAZ TRU THEN MAC DRE WOULDA BEEN RUNNIN SHIT LONG BEFORE HE DIED (R.I.P) CUZ HE WAZ HELLA ENTERTAINING...

IF THE RADIO WOULD OPEN UP THE DOOR TO OTHER ARTISTz WHO DONT HAVE THE SAME SOUND IT WOULD B A DONE DEAL FOR THEzE FOOLz....

& ME SAYIN THAT AINT OUT OF HATRED FOR NONE OF THEM ARTISTz....

CUZ I ACTUALLY FEEL SUM SHIT FRUM A FEW OF THEM NAMEz U JUS DROP'D ( GUCCI, SHAWTY LO & GORILLA ZOE )....

DONT LET THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA BRAINWASH U INTO ACTUALLY BELIEVING WHUT U SAID....



- GEEzUz

lol@"if radio would open the door"
please get off that shit man.. that excuse died in the 90s..
if your shit aint hot its not gettin played, period..
and thats where its at. so while you guys continue to complain
david banner, oj da juice, young dro, nitti, & gucci mane keep droppin shit that the radio cant ignore because the streets love it.

and no one said they had to lyricists.. if lyricists got the props they deserved everyone would love immortal technique

 

[synical dj]

if jeezy didnt exist none of those other fools would exist

they find 1 trend setter then come out with copys ... its just like television ... first its flavor of love , then its i love ny , then its rock of love etc etc

jeezy cant fuck with gucci mane.

 

[RaineRizzle]

jeezy cant fuck with gucci mane.

youre weird homie. i can picture you in a fruity ass shiny hoodie and bright orange blue and green shoes. lookin like chrome and sorbet.

why do you come in the so cal forum and all you seem to talk about is corny south rap. home is where the heart is. i dont know if you live in cali or anywhere on the west.. but i know where your heart is... in a big jug of atlanta kool aid.

 

[Supa SAV'D OUTT]

the fact remains that soulja boy is entertaining. and the beats go.

thats why niggas like gucci mane, shawty lo, yung joc, gorilla zoe and all them other trap rappers are runnin shit right now. get used to it haters!

GUCCI MANE GOEZ HARD HIZ MIXTAPES BE ON POINT...SO DOES SHAWTY LOs

 

[GeeZus]

lol@"if radio would open the door"
please get off that shit man.. that excuse died in the 90s..

LOL..

IT AINT NO EXCUSE...

ITz JUS THE WAY THE GAME IZ & ALWAYz HAZ BEEN....

BACC IN THE '80'S IT TOOK CERTAIN PPL TO ACTUALLY OPEN DOORz FOR THE RADIO GIVE SPINz TO RAP/HIP HOP ARTISTz OUTSIDE OF THE EAST COAST....

WHY ? CUZ THE SOUND WAZ DIFFERENT...

IN THE 90'S IT WAZ THE SAME WAY, ONLY THAT TIME THE RADIO WAZNT USED TO MUCH DOWN SOUTH RAP...

THEY HAD TO GET USED TO WESTCOAST SHIT, THEN GET USED TO DOWN SOUTH SHIT...

ITz A CYCLE MAYN...

FUNNY AZ IT MIGHT SOUND, NEW YORK GOT ALOT OF PULL IN THIS INDUSTRY....

& I DIDNT SAY U HAD TO BE A LYRICIST TO SHINE IN THE INDUSTRY....

& I AINT PUTTIN NUTHIN ON THE EAST OR WESTCOAST, IM JUS SAYIN IT SHOULD START AT HOME...

WHEREVER U FRUM, IF HOME IZ WHERE THE HEART IZ THEN SHOW LUV TO WHERE U FRUM...

ALOT OF RADIO STATIONz COULD B PLAYIN LOCAL SHIT & OPENIN DOORz BUT.........

if your shit aint hot its not gettin played, period..

LOL @ "IF YOUR SHIT AINT HOT ITz NOT GETTIN PLAYED"...

WHERE THE HELL ARE U COMIN UP WIT THIS BULLSHIT FRUM?

I GUESS THEY ALREADY GOT U BRAINWASHED...

LOL

WHUTz "HOT" IZ A PERSONAL OPINION....

JUS CUZ A RADIO PLAYz WHUT EVERY OTHER STATION PLAYz TO GET MORE LISTENERz & CUZ IT CIRCULATEz MORE MONEY DONT MAKE IT "HOTTER" THAN WHUT THEY DONT PLAY....

A POINT I WAZ MAKIN IZ THE RADIO LIMITz VARIETY MORE THAN EVER THESE DAYz...

U CANT SAY SNOOP IZ THE "HOTTEST" ARTIST ON THE WESTCOAST & THATz THE REASON HEz THE MAIN WESTCOAST ARTIST TO GET PLAYED WHEN HE DROPz SUM SHIT...

U CANT SAY LIL WAYNE IZ THE BEST RAPPER ALIVE & THE "HOTTEST" DOWN SOUTH CUZ U HAVENT HEARD EVERY RAPPER WIT OR WITHOUT A CD, ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTH...

U CANT SAY TWISTA OR KANYE WEST IZ THE "HOTTEST" ARTIST IN THE MIDWEST CUZ THEY GET MORE RADIO PLAY THAN OTHERz...

NOR IZ P DIDDY THE "HOTTEST" ON THE EAST COAST CUZ HE GETz PLAYED MORE THAN MOST EASTCOAST ARTISTz...

& THEREz ALSO MORE TO GETTIN PLAYED ON THE RADIO THAN JUS PUTTIN OUT A SINGLE....

BUT IF U DONT KNO THAT SHIT I WONT GO INTO IT...

LOL

I'LL JUS SUM IT UP WIT "MONEY & POLITICz" PLAY A BIGGER PART THAN AN ARTIST JUS HAVIN "A HOT SONG"...

and thats where its at. so while you guys continue to complain
david banner, oj da juice, young dro, nitti, & gucci mane keep droppin shit that the radio cant ignore because the streets love it.

and no one said they had to lyricists.. if lyricists got the props they deserved everyone would love immortal technique

I AINT COMPLAININ, IM ACTUALLY LAUGHIN CUZ I FIND THE POLITICz FUNNY....

& I DONT KNO WHERE U FRUM OR WHUT U KNO ABOUT THE MUSIC INDUSTRY BUT A MAJORITY OF THESE CORPORATE FIGUREz & EXECz DONT GIVE A FUCC WHUTz "HOT IN THE STREETz"...

MOST OF'EM NEVER SEEN A STREET CORNER IN THEY LIFE...

SO HOW THE FUC WOULD THEY KNO "WHUTz HOT IN THE STREETz" ?

LMAO @ WHEREVER U GOT THAT FRUM....

THEY SPEND MORE TIME TRYNA MOLD NEW ARTISTz INTO WHUT MIGHT B MARKETABLE, GIVE'M A GIMMIC & MOLD'EM INTO WHO THEY WANT THEM TO B...

WHICH USUALLY TURNz OUT TO B "JUS LIKE THE ARTIST WHO IZ GETTIN THE MOST SPINz ON THE RADIO" AT THE TIME...

IN THE MONTHz & YEARz TO COME YOU'LL SEE MORE OF WHUT I SAID TO B TRU WHEN U START SEEIN ALOT OF LIL WAYNE CLONEz IN THE INDUSTRY....

EX. THEY HAD ALOT OF JEEzY CLONEz OVER THE PAST 2 YEARz....

LIKE I SAID, THE CYCLE CONTINUEz...

IF U CANT BUY IT, THEN FIND SUMTHIN LIKE IT & SELL IT...





- GEEzUz

 

[bigpluck]

i agree with ice cube blood, this new age hip hop shit is just a passing fad,and i will be glad when that shit fails and we get back to real talent,all them niggas from the south look like water melon eating shuffle my feet like sammy for a grammy ass coons!!!!

 

[synical dj]

youre weird homie. i can picture you in a fruity ass shiny hoodie and bright orange blue and green shoes. lookin like chrome and sorbet.

why do you come in the so cal forum and all you seem to talk about is corny south rap. home is where the heart is. i dont know if you live in cali or anywhere on the west.. but i know where your heart is... in a big jug of atlanta kool aid.

im weird but youre angry.
i can picture you in a stained white tee, gettin all screw faced when a car rolls by bumpin some Screw, turnin to your homie to complain about it...

im from oklahoma.im not from california. off top.
im in sd. been here 10 years. because cali is the shit.
we all know that.

second, its not like i made this thread. i just read a gang of niggas hatin on the south as usual...in the 90s when everyone was on death row's dick did you hear the south complain?
now that everyone else has fell off kids wanna shit on the south..for what?
being original, makin music the clubs like? stayin relevant with street music that can be marketed?
that used to be the west coast.

even mitchy slick said "concentrate on a good single" in the rap or die video
now everybody wanna play the "i been blackballed" jose conseco card..

quiet as kept, a gaaaang of people out here love that trap shit..
way more people love that shit than this local shit, guaranteeeed

 

[synical dj]

geezus, youre missing the point.
OF COURSE EXECS DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT WHATS IN THE STREET.
its about the club play. its a whole different culture out there..
no one cares about radio play in the south.
are strippers taking their clothes off to your latest single?
do dj's request your song on all their mixtapes?
are niggas who cant afford to go in the club, sittin in the parking lot playing your song waaaay too loud?
radio comes after you conquer all those arenas.
trust me.. when no limit ran the south, we wasnt waitin to hear the new Fiend song on the radio.. you just had to go outside and listen.
there is no debate when it comes to the "hottest" nigga. its not a scientific formula for it.
jeezy was that nigga, joc was that nigga,rick ross was that nigga, shawty lo was that nigga.. now its lil wayne... shit changes constantly.
you dont understand because that shit NEVER happens out here.. you cant name three "hottest" rappers in cali because shit aint crackin like that right now..
glasses? roccett? jayrock? 211?

 

[GeeZus]

geezus, youre missing the point.
OF COURSE EXECS DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT WHATS IN THE STREET.
its about the club play. its a whole different culture out there..

NOT REALLY...

IM PAYIN MORE ATTENTION TO WHUT U SAY THAN U ARE...

U JUS SEEM TO TRY TO SIMPLIFY A MORE COMPLICATED & COMPLEX "BUSINESS"...

LIKE I SAID BEFORE, MONEY & POLITICz...

& STOP TRYNA MAKE IT SEEM LIKE PPL ARE "HATIN THE SOUTH" CUZ IT AI NT A WEST VS SOUTH THING...

NOT ALL DOWN SOUTH ARTISTz SOUND LIKE THE NIGGAz THE RADIO & TV TRY TO FORCE PPL TO LISTEN TO...

MOST OF THE SHIT THATz DOIN DECENT NUMBERz NOW AINT CUZ OF THE MUSIC, ITz MORE CUZ OF THE IMAGE & GIMMIC THAT ARTIST CARRIES...

IF U DISAGREE THAT WHUT I SAID APPLIES TO MOST OF THE ARTISTz U NAMED OR WILL NAME, THEN THE DISCUSSION IZ ALREADY OVER...

LOL

BUT YUR RIGHT, IT IZ A DIFFERENT CULTURE OUT THERE....

& ONE SMALL THING IZ ALSO A MAJOR THING OUT THERE (IN ATLANTA & SUM PARTz OF FLORIDA ) THEY GET MORE LOCAL RADIO SUPPORT THAN MOST PARTz OF THE COUNTRY...

no one cares about radio play in the south.

NOT TRU...

U CANT SPEAK FOR EVERY SOUTHERN ARTIST....

& I DOUBT THE MAJORITY OF RAP ARTISTz OR MUSICIANz ANYWHERE DONT CARE IF THEY GET PLAY'D ON THE RADIO...

are strippers taking their clothes off to your latest single?

ME PERSONALLY ? NO !

BUT WHUT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE ?

YOUR FAVORITE RAPPER PROLLY COULDNT GET PUSSY BEFORE HIZ FIRST ALBUM...

I GOT SUM STRIPPERs WHO WOULD TAKE THEY CLOTHEs OFF TO ME BEAT BOX'N....

do dj's request your song on all their mixtapes?

NO...

are niggas who cant afford to go in the club, sittin in the parking lot playing your song waaaay too loud?

NO...

NIGGAz I RIDE WIT CAN AFFORD TO GO IN THE CLUB, THEY JUS CHOOSE TO BE THE ONEz OUTSIDE BRINGIN THE CLUB TO THE PARKIN LOT...

IF THE HOMIE CANT AFFORD $5 TO GET IN THE CLUB THEN HE DONT NEED B AT THE CLUB....

NIGGA NEED TO B AT HOME PLOTTIN ON HOW TO STEP UP HIZ HUSTLE...

ESPECIALLY IF THE NIGGA RAPPIN !

radio comes after you conquer all those arenas.

TRU FOR THE MOST PART....

UNLESS U GET LUKKY....

trust me.. when no limit ran the south, we wasnt waitin to hear the new Fiend song on the radio.. you just had to go outside and listen.

DIFFERENT TIME IN MUSIC, SAME POLITICz BUT LESS CORPORATE...

& THERE ALSO WAzNT AZ BIG OF A HIP HOP AUDIENCE...

BUT THE SAME SHIT HAPPENz NOW FRUM COAST TO COAST...

U GONE HEAR MORE STREET SHIT IN THE STREETz....

BUT BACC IN THE TIME U MENTION'D , CERTAIN STREET SHIT COULD GET A PASS & GET RADIO PLAY ON A MAINSTREAM LEVEL...

FEW CAN GET THAT PRIVILEDGE NOW, ESPECIALLY IF U REALLY GOT STREET CRED...

& I WAZ KICC'N IT IN THE SOUTH AROUND THE TIME U SPEAKIN OF...

FIEND DIDNT REALLY NEED A SONG ON THE RADIO CUZ MASTER P & TRU HAD ALREADY CREATED A BIG LOCAL FANBASE....

& LOCAL RADIO STATIONz IN ALOT OF SOUTHERN AREAz HAD/STILL HAVE ALOT MORE LUV FOR THE LOCAL ARTIST THAN IN OTHER PLACEz...

ONCE AGAIN, NOT PUTTIN IT ALL ON THEM CUZ SUM ARTISTz THINK THEY CAN RELEASE BULLSHIT WIT BATHROOM QUALITY & GET SPINz....

& U CANT COMPARE WHUT HAPPEN'D IN THE 90s WIT NO LIMIT TO WHUT HAPPENs NOW CUZ IT AINT EVEN IN THE SAME FIELD AZ IT WAZ THEN...

MORE CORPORATE....

BIGGER AUDIENCE...

there is no debate when it comes to the "hottest" nigga. its not a scientific formula for it.

THEREz A DEBATE TO EVERYTHING CUZ ERYBODY HAZ DIFFERENT VIEWz....

ONCE AGAIN THE "HOTTEST" NIGGA IZ A PERSONAL OPINION...

FOR EVERY PERSON WHOZ FEELIN ONE NIGGA, THEREz PROLLY 10 OR 20 WHO AINT FEELIN THE NIGGA...

NO SCIENTIFIC FORMULA, JUS FREEDOM OF CHOICE & PERSONAL PREFERENCE...

JUS CUZ THE RADIO SPINz A NIGGA OR THEY GET PAID TO SPIN A CERTAIN NIGGA 100 TIMEz MORE THAN THE NEXT ARTIST DONT MEAN THEY ARE "THE HOTTEST"...

& JUS CUZ U DROP A ALBUM & IT GOES PLATINUM DONT MEAN U THE MOST TALENT'D OR "THE HOTTEST"...

jeezy was that nigga, joc was that nigga,rick ross was that nigga, shawty lo was that nigga.. now its lil wayne... shit changes constantly.

MAYBE IN A CERTAIN REGION OF THE SOUTH THEY WERE "THAT NIGGA"....

BUT U CANT SPEAK FOR EVERY FAN OR EVERY AREA OF THE COUNTRY...

IF U MEAN THEY WERE "A FAN FAVORITE" BY A MAJORITY MAINSTREAM AUDIENCE, THAT MIGHT B TRU....

BUT IF U MEAN THEY SHUT THE GAME DOWN, U CANT B SERIOUS...

NO HATE INVOLVED BUT A FEW OF THEM NIGGAz CANT EVEN HOLD A CROWD IN CERTAIN PARTz OF THE SOUTH, MUCH LESS IN THE MIDWEST, EAST OR WEST COAST...

IF U TELLIN ME THAT YUNG JOC OR SOULJA BOY ARE THE "HOTTEST" NIGGAz IN THE SOUTH, THEN I'LL PRAY FOR U MAYN...

you dont understand because that shit NEVER happens out here..

LMAO ! @ THAT

FUNNY SHIT...

& WHERE DA FUC IZ "HERE" ?

JUS CUZ IM COMMENTIN IN A SOUTH CALI FORUM DONT MEAN IM FRUM HERE....

DONT GET IT TWIST'D MAYN...

U AINT CHOPPIN IT UP WIT SUM LOCAL NIGGA WHO NEVA LEFT HIZ HOMETOWN & HELLA BITTER ON THE COMPUTER...

I DONT REALLY KNO U BUT I'VE SEEN MORE OF THE WORLD & TRAVEL'D MORE THAN U HAVE BEFORE I EVEN HIT 21....

I GOT A SHOE BOX WIT MORE PLANE TICCET'z IN IT THAN U PROLLY GOT DOLLARz IN YO WALLET RIGHT NOW...

& MY EAR IZ OPEN TO ARTISTz NEW & OLD, NO MATTER WHERE THEY FRUM...

you cant name three "hottest" rappers in cali because shit aint crackin like that right now..
glasses? roccett? jayrock? 211?

FIRST, I DONT USE THE WORD "HOTTEST" & I WONT SPEAK FOR EVERY FAN ON WHOz ON TOP...

BUT I CANT NAME 3 CALI RAPPERz WHO KILL THE BOOTH ?

NIGGA PLEASE !!!

I CANT NAME 3, I CAN NAME 30 OFF TOP WITHOUT EVEN THINKIN BOUT IT...

FRUM L.A TO THE VALLEY TO THE BAY ...

I CAN DROP A LIST OF MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE OF CALI RAPPERz & MC'z...

SAME AZ I CAN ABOUT THE MIDWEST, EAST COAST & EVEN DOWN SOUTH...

& IF I MADE A LIST OF "MC'z" I GUARANTEE MY LIST OF MC'z WOULD B LONGER THAN YOUR LIST OF SOUTHERN MC'z....




- GEEzUz

 

[RaineRizzle]

i can picture you in a stained white tee, gettin all screw faced when a car rolls by bumpin some Screw, turnin to your homie to complain about it...

PROLLY NOT... MORE LIKE THIS...

THATS WHO YOURE THINK YOURE TALKIN TO? AN ANGRY BROKE RAPPER??

YOU'RE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION. YOU JUST STAND OUT TO ME AS THE MOST SUPPORTIVE OF THE SOUTHERN BUBBA GUMP RAP... WHICH PUTS US AT ODDS. I RESPECT YOUR OPINION THO. BALEE DAT. YOU JUST THE TYPE OF DUDE THAT LIKES WHATEVERS HOT...

IM SURE ONCE THE WESTCOAST IS BACK ON THE RADIO YOU'LL BE THROWIN UP YOUR DUB AGAIN.. I TOSS MINES UP SO MUCH MY FINGERS CROOKED NIGGA.

WEST

 

[synical dj]

haha you really do dissect some words.
the numerous quotes can throw you off your game like "did i really say that?"
i dont even use the phrase "hottest nigga" offline either im jus sayin..
hahah thats hilarious tho. i never thought about it.
reminds me of the time when i would tell homies shit about "The Hot Boys" before
they blew up and people would look at me like im crazy..

i will admit a lot of that shit is garbage that comes out and gets play
because its so easy to do it. but its catchy. it was so easy to hate on master p but
once you got over that you realize he was puttin a lot of good shit out.
Silkk is garbage. of course! but Charge It 2 Da Game was ridin!

my questions were rhetorical. they are the check list for the stupid rap singles that continue to fall from the sky. i didnt think you was a rapper. jesus doesnt have to rap.

cali is full of emcees who kill the booth obviously. that wasnt even the point.
i grew up on that cali backpack rap that we love to ignore on siccness.
id never say gucci mane "kills the booth" cmon man. shawty lo doesnt kill any booth
id hate to see that act for a full 30 minutes.. but his album went hard.
but its not like they care because its all disposable rap. theyll go crank
out another simple playskool beat with a catchy hook and a bassline and next week.
we should do that out here. the bay did it. fuck it.
because the rappers in sd are killin niggas in la and the bay. period.
and they can be on some battle rap shit if they wanted to.

that whole "Real Emcee" shit is a completely different discussion. its not like were talkin about "hip hop" here. theres no b-boy threads. no one is uploading DMC finals..
theres like five of us here that even mention graf.
the southern mc list would be about what... five people? give or take.
would your east coast list be longer than your west coast list?
how many people who post on siccness would you label an mc vs rapper?
we dont even pay attention to the underground really on here..
i go through this battle with niggas all the time since jr high because i defend the stupid genres of music that people are quick to hate on.. Speedgarage/2Step vs House purists, jungle vs trance fags... like Jump Up & Clownstep jungle vs intelligent drum n bass purists.. "Snap Music" vs Trap Music or everything labeled "hyphy" (i still slap that shit) vs. Real Bay rap. "backpack rap" vs "gangsta shit...
niggas are music snobs for no reason. pot snobs too. smoke it all.
you have little time left before 2012...

glasses roccett jayrock and 211 better be on your list though.

i listen to everything because im a sooner.

 

[synical dj]

PROLLY NOT... MORE LIKE THIS...

THATS WHO YOURE THINK YOURE TALKIN TO? AN ANGRY BROKE RAPPER??

YOU'RE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION. YOU JUST STAND OUT TO ME AS THE MOST SUPPORTIVE OF THE SOUTHERN BUBBA GUMP RAP... WHICH PUTS US AT ODDS. I RESPECT YOUR OPINION THO. BALEE DAT. YOU JUST THE TYPE OF DUDE THAT LIKES WHATEVERS HOT...

IM SURE ONCE THE WESTCOAST IS BACK ON THE RADIO YOU'LL BE THROWIN UP YOUR DUB AGAIN.. I TOSS MINES UP SO MUCH MY FINGERS CROOKED NIGGA.

WEST

haha nah man i know who you are i think we met at the git dat i was wet but i do remember you had some fresh oside shirts on.
i just know too many rappers who be like "fuck that screw shit." out here so it was an easy dig. i want the west to blow up again because when it does my niggas cee wee, googie, mooch, dna, ecay, elce, cutthroat aka lil bay loc will be first in line!
"We Dont Make Hip Hop Music, These Is Country Rap Tunes!"

 

[The Evil Genius]

jeezy cant fuck with gucci mane.

Both of them niggaz is boo boo on the mic so it don't matter.

@GeeZus....... stop homie cuz you killing'em. LOL!!

 

[numba2stunna]

youre weird homie. i can picture you in a fruity ass shiny hoodie and bright orange blue and green shoes. lookin like chrome and sorbet.

LMFAO

 

[tweeze]

I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHO TRYING TO JUSTIFIES THIS DUDE THIS FAGGOT IS A CLOWN

GOT 6 YRS GOING AROUND SAYING SUPER MAN THAT HOE I FEEL LIKE BEATING THAT NIGGA AZZ LOL

 

[dopegame707]

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhq2kcDxL75Yyuf1FS

cube spoke reall on that

 

[SLICC RICC]

youre weird homie. i can picture you in a fruity ass shiny hoodie and bright orange blue and green shoes. lookin like chrome and sorbet.

why do you come in the so cal forum and all you seem to talk about is corny south rap. home is where the heart is. i dont know if you live in cali or anywhere on the west.. but i know where your heart is... in a big jug of atlanta kool aid.

LMFAO!!!

 

[28g w/o the bag]

haha sorbet?

and this ice-t vs. souljah boy situation is gay beyond human comprehension.

::

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

GOT 6 YRS GOING AROUND SAYING SUPER MAN THAT HOE I FEEL LIKE BEATING THAT NIGGA AZZ LOL

In the explicit (that means NON-radio version), I believe he says "supersoak that hoe", which is a refernce to cummin in a broads face.

But see, if people would have listened to his album, they would know that. People are quick to judge an artist by his RADIO single...

:ermm:

 

[El D]

synical dj is making some very good points....truth hurts muthafuckas