cowboys domination

Tenkamenin · Oct 3, 2002

Highthewholeway said:

1) LMAO!! Again ignorance runs through your mind. Here we go again with the numbers, because you're too stupid to see. Quincy Carter is not a running QB..I REPEAT QUINCY CARTER IS NOT A RUNNING QB, HE'S MOBILE BUT NOT A RUNNER. Who the fuck told you that Quincy isn't confident enough in his arm so he runs?

Quincy Carters rushing numbers his rookie year 8 games played: 45-150 yards thats only 3.3 yards rushing that won't get your far in the NFL. SHIT!! Most running backs can get 150 yards in one day. So my question is does Quincy Carter spend more time in the pocket or running? If your smart you would say in the pocket. Quincy Carter doesn't run often here let me suprise you....

Troy Aikman's rookie year: 38-302yards 7.94 yards a carry. Troy Aikman rushed for more yards then Quincy Carter his rookie year and with less carries.

So is Quincy a running QB??? nooo!! So your statement makes no sense. Dummy he has bombed a TD pass to Joey Galloway, Quincy Carter has a rocket arm for your information. Again your talking without doing your research, and opinion. Without research means NOTHING!! NADA!!! ZILCH!!!

I brought up the black QB's because he's very similiar in style with those guys. So I'm saying if your going to say Quincy is a college QB then you have to categorize all of them as college QB's because they did what he did.

2) Well I've read some of your football post so I see you're talking from a Raider fans point of view LOL!! So I can't get mad at you but like I said above if you going from that perspective label your posts as "Speaking from an ignorant fans point of view". Because you obviously offer nothing in your post but ignorance.

KINGCZAR · Oct 3, 2002

Thats real Tenkamenim, dude got no football knowledge!! Fucc da Oakland haiderz str8 up!!! Yall been havin a allstar team for 3-4 years now, and still havnt seen a superbowl, maybe the Chilibowl!!haha, I hope yall gota plan for QB for next year cause your current QB will be applyin for social security next year!! Yes it dont mean much, but we still wooped yall in the preseason potna!! Stop hatin on our QB, and hope that yours make it through the season, cause soon he maybe in the pocket with a walker!!

Cel-c-us · Oct 3, 2002

@Tenkamenin might as well save your time & energy,cuz these hattaz will never see the light. COWBOYS WHAT!!!

T-Dubb · Oct 3, 2002

untill Larry Allen retires, gets hurt, or switches teams...........you can NEVER say the cowboys have shitty blocking.

an comparing losing Kurt Warner to Rocket Ismal HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH you right, that is the same

the cowboys could be ALOT better if they would tell Emmitt to fuck off, an quit playing for numbers.......an let Hambrick start instead, dude is young an hungry an can grind out way more yards then Emmitt

Tenkamenin · Oct 3, 2002

T-Dubb said:

Yeah losing Rocket Ismail is a big blow to our team whether you like to believe it or not. But we have a rookie WR out there learning the game, he's going to be good but he's not it now. A vet like Rocket is truly missed.

T-Dubb, the Cowboys has CHANGED there offensive system if you don't know, we aren't under Jack Reily who ran the worst offensive system in the NFL last year. We have a new offensive coordinator Bruce Coslet former Bengals and Jets Head Coach and former Bengals Offensive Coordinator. His system is very different from what we are accustomed to. The Cowboys offensive line is used to man blocking schemes, our 340+ linemen would be told to block a certain individual and move him. That is no longer happeneing in Dallas. We now run a zone blocking system, and our linemen are told to be at a specific place at a specific time instead of man blocking.

This is problem...

1) Because our offensive linemen aren't fast and made for that type of blocking.

2) Our starting offensive line has been injured all through training camp and all through preseason. The line did not play with each other once in preseason and hardly any in practice so there is no rhythm going at all, it's basically chaotic.

So the problem is not Emmitt Smith the problem is the zone blocking scheme and our offensive line not working togther all of training camp. Once the line starts to figure out how to block in this scheme Emmitt should put up his yards again.

And sorry man, but Emmitt Smith has not had a great line for many years now. This isn't 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, or even 95. Those players have gone. The only pro-bowler we have on our line is Larry Allen, and he doesn't block for Emmitt on every play. I've never heard of one man block an entire defense so saying until Larry Allen leaves the cowboys can't say they have a shitty run defense is bologne.

Besides Larry Allen we haven't had another pro-bowler linemen atleast not with this current crop. I think Erik Williams did in 99 but thats it, and in my opinion he didn't deserve those trips to the pro-bowl because he caused too many penalties. We lost Moose Johnston awhile ago and we had to deal with this panzy ass sorry excuse for a FB named Robert Thomas for awhile now. And he sucks he creates no whole for Emmitt... So quit saying the line crap, there are about 20 teams out there who've had better lines then we had in the last 4 years.

Emmitt Smith is not always the fastest starters. Here are his numbers the last couple year through 4 games where he rushed for over 1,000 yards.

00
58 attempts
202 yards
3.4 average

01
62 attempts
208 yards
3.3 average

02
59 attempts
236 yards
4.0 average

So his yards are higher than it was in 2000 where he rushed for 1200 yards. He's not in bad shape at all nor do Cowboy fans need to panick. Because we are early in the season.

BornSin · Oct 4, 2002

T-Dubb said:

Amen to that. Emmitt does not have that "burst" when he hits a hole anymore. Man, It is so evident that Emmitt is not the best back on this football team right now. We saw it in the STL game, Hambrick had more fire and is more powerful and faster... When Emmitt gets the ball sometimes, he dances around in the backfield like a scared back, rather than hitting the hole hard (which he does on occasion).

Highthewholeway · Oct 4, 2002

Tenkamenin- Your a trip man. LMAO

*Nobody said Quincy Carter was a running quarterback.
You just pick something out of my post and write a fuckin paragraph about it, just make yourself look like you know what your talking about. So Great!!! We've established that he's a MOBILE quarterback and not a Runner. Now what? is that supposed to prove in some way that he doesnt SUCK??

Can you Post his Record as a starting Quaterback in the NFL for ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury please?

And WOW MAN.. Quincy FUCKIN BOMBED ONE TO GALLOWAY. which was a prayer in the first place and probalbly shouldnt even of been thrown. I saw it.. Galloway caught it with some dude on his back. Lets see Carter hit a Reciever in stride.. you Got the Fastest Man in the NFL Joey Galloway 4.19 (40 yd dash) and the Cowboys cant even capotolize. I dont understand, Is it this New offensive line scheme?? So Carter doesnt have enough time?
Can you break all this down for me? And dont say because Rocket's out and he's gettin double-teamed. Its because Emmitt sucks and the cowboys running game has no Respect. Your team is in the shitter! You seem to wanna blame all this on the O-line.
Is this Correct? Clear it all up for me because I'm such an Ignorant football fan.

King Czar I forgotten more about football than you probalbly know.. pfff Anywayz..

BornSin · Oct 4, 2002

O-Line injuries:

Larry Allen: Questionable (2nd year man Javier Collins with 2 games of starting experience to back him up)
Andre Gurode: Out, 2nd year guard/center Matt Lehr will start. (first regular season start at center, i think)
Kelvin Garmon: Will play but has a sprained anke and has gotten too fat which has limited his speed.

So that leaves Soloman Page and Flozell Adams (who have been far from stellar) as the only healthy starters for the Cowboys o-line.Therefore the o-line is not getting enough practice together wich leads to them not being on the same page which leads to a shitty running game and not much time to pass. Hence, the o-line is the main problem.

Tenkamenin · Oct 4, 2002

Highthewholeway said:

Sorry man but to say that Quincy Carter tucks the ball and run instead of throwing it to Galloway is saying that you're a runner first QB. Thats the shit Vick does, his receivers maybe open but he finds a seam and takes it. Donovan Mcnabb does that also, he may run without going through all of his progressions. Aaron Brooks does this sometimes also, but Quincy Carter never does that. He sits in the pocket scans through his progressions, if there not there he still maybe patient until the pocket collapses and then he tucks and run. But he has NEVER given up a passing opportunity to run.

Quincy Carter is 5-7 as a starting QB in this league, not very bad in my opinion and he should eclipse the losses with more wins. Ohh and if your looking to clown his record let me remind you that after 12 Games Donovan Mcnabb was 3-9...So if your going to snap at Quincy snap at him also.

Yeah your ignorant and have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. WHAT'S NEW????? LOL!!

Ummmmmmm this is very simple, the game of football is played at the line of scrimage on both sides of the ball. If you do not have a great O-Line then you will fail unless you can run around and make plays on your own. And the Cowboys have not had there O-Line play together in training camp, atleast 2 people were missing from every single practice. And in a zone blocking scheme you need to work in a group. And even the O-Line wasn't playing together in preseason, there first time working together was week 1 this year and it was an absolute disaster.

Heres an article to shed some light...

First, the Cowboys are running a rookie center out there. Not a lot of rookie centers start. Not because of a lack of ability, but because of a lack of experience.

"He's had some problems with calls," said the scout, and to make matters worse, Gurode's sprained toe likely will keep him out of the game Sunday, forcing the Cowboys to start Matt Lehr at center for the first time in his two-year career.

Then there is the what-to-do-with-Larry Allen quandary. He's been at guard. He's been moved to right tackle. He's been hurt. And tell you what? If Allen doesn't move better and quicker than he has so far in the season, Michael Strahan will have a feast out there whether Allen is playing or not.

Then there is Kelvin Garmon, who started at right guard and has been moved to left. He has been spotty, and also injured. And there now seems to be some concern he can last through the fourth quarter. One scout said Garmon has grown too heavy and lacks the necessary mobility he once had.

And then there are the tackles, Flozell Adams and Solomon Page. Both are in contract-drive seasons, but you would be hard-pressed to detect that from their play and efforts at times. Neither has played consistently well.

And do you remember why the Cowboys were able to find both in the second rounds of draft? Something about their work ethic? The very reason Cowboys owner Jerry Jones was hesitant to sign Adams to a long-term deal and why they wanted to see how Page would do playing out his contract.

Now, give these guys a little slack. They all have been injured, and really haven't practiced together very much. And the injuries seem to grow worse, Gurode missing the past two days of practice with the sprained toe and Allen having missed most of the past two games with a sprained ankle.

But to me, that's a bigger deal, their lack of continuity and health, than it is their inability to pick up this blocking system. I mean, how hard can it be to figure out who you're supposed to block? Said one person, "Zone blocking is the easiest blocking in the world. What's difficult?"

Well, after four games, reciting Kafka might seem easier for these offensive linemen.

"You can't practice when you're hurt," Coslet said, "and you can't get better if you don't practice. Allen is practicing on one leg. He'd better get ready in a hurry.

"We played a bunch of (preseason) games with guys that are not even here now. Training camp is important. We're doing training camp now, two or three weeks into the season. If you lose one guy, it's OK. We lost six. How many practices did our linemen lose? One hundred? How many snaps have they lost? One thousand? Just keep multiplying."

Wonder if he meant the absences or the problem. Because the Cowboys inability to consistently run the football has been more of a problem than their inability to get the ball downfield in the passing game. And don't go telling me about those eight- and nine-man fronts. The Rams mostly played a cover-two. The Cowboys had problems running against their seven-man fronts.

And if Smith seems slow or hesitant into the hole, don't immediately lean on his 33 years of age. Maybe he just can't find the crease, or better yet, has no way of anticipating just what those offensive linemen are going to do, be it turn their guy or drive their guy backwards since he hasn't practiced much with them.

"The running game has to catch up, and catch up pretty quickly," Smith said. "At some point, offensively we have to do our part and establish a consistent running game. As the running back, I've got to improve my steps and how I run plays."

And secondly dummy Quincy's pass to Galloway was a smart one, he didn't tuck the ball and run when Galloway wasn't open he stood in the pocket and waited for him to get open and he slung the ball between 2 defenders. It was thrown accurately and Galloway is a big play receiver so he should've gone up and got it which he did.

Again you made another stupid comment and thats not shocking. If teams didn't have respect for the running game then why have they been trying to stack the line for many years now? They are doing it now but they aren't the reason why we aren't successful.

And lastly you asked the question why haven't we gone deep with Galloway. Because our passing blocking blows, thats just the fact all we have time for is 3 step drops, once the blocking gets better the deeper we will go.

FACT!!

monsta60 · Oct 5, 2002

What da fucc you muthafucc's talk'n bout da cowboys win a few games and you muthafucc's ride dicc da Rams still da shit

THA RIPPA · Oct 5, 2002

cowboys for life

nuff said

if they can be ignorant and offer nothing to the convo, so can i:devious:

Purebred Hogg · Oct 5, 2002

Cowboys are NOT that good...stop fooling yall selves...

And i get REAL irritated when folks bring up COLLEGE stats in an arguement aobut a player in the NFL...

Let me explin somethin to you...COLLEGE STATS DONT MEAN A LICK OF BAT SHIT IN THE NFL....

Matter of fact...how many "great players" in college,end up bein just "ok" players in the NFL???EVERY FUCKIN YEAR PEOPLE..GET THE FUCK OVER IT....jesus fuckin,christ kids these days...

Tenkamenin · Oct 5, 2002

Purebred Hogg said:

I didn't bring up college stats to prove shit. I was just filling in people on who Quincy Carter is and his background. Because watching a rookie QB and seeing him throw up INT's you must think to yourself "Damn this fool sucks why did he get drafted" when in actuality he was very respected in college and deserved to be drafted where he was. You're reading too much into what I posted..

JReezelle · Oct 6, 2002

FUCK EVERY COWBOY FAN ON THIS PLANET!!! man, woman, & child i gives a fuck yall suck. stop talkin big bout that fool quincy what happened today i know yall seen that throw. yall ain't finna go nowhere so just shut the fuck up bout domination specially tenkamenin and kevski yall glorifyin some weak as mufuckin team. talkin all that jazz for what. yall ain't even goin see .500 this year. suckelles FORTY MUFUCKIN NINERS BOOOOOAH!!!

Tenkamenin · Oct 6, 2002

JReezelle said:

Quincy didn't lose the game for us today because with the way our defense was going the Giants could've scored on us again, however there is no excuse for not making that throw. So many fucking questionable calls by our head coach why did we punt the ball on 4th and 9? Why were we stupid enough to go for 2 fake fieldgoals?

For Quincy Carter to have a career day being underfire is incredible. He'll take the blame for the loss even though it wasn't entirely all his fault. Any Cowboy fans see that sorry for excuse Robert Thomas tap the Giants DE Holmes instead of blocking him? Agianst the #2 defense in the league we did mighty well. A heart breaking loss but we got the Panthers, Cardinals, and Lions coming up.

All those games are very winable

BornSin · Oct 7, 2002

Tenkamenin said:

Losing Jamaar Martin(FB) for the season was probably more damaging to the Cowboys than losing Rocket for the year. Had he not gotten injured, he would have most def. been the starter and helped the running game......Quincy had a good game for the most part yesterday, but I swear I almost cried when he missed Antonio Bryant for what wouldve been the game winning TD. He was so wide open that he couldve underthrown the ball and it would still have been a TD. But it aint all on him, it was a team loss and he just happened to make a HUGE mistake. Coslet made some shitty play calls, Campo is and idiot, and we have cornerbacks that wouldnt start for the Miami Hurricanes. But the season is far from over. Our schedule gets a little easier in the next few weeks........But only if Quincy had of made that throw....dam.

Tenkamenin · Oct 7, 2002

BornSin said:

Yeah Martin is the biggest loss this season, because Thomas can't block worth shit. I can't believe he has a job there has to be another fullback out there that can do the job for the mean time.

you wanna hear something more painful? That last pass Quincy threw was intended for Joey Galloway but he was out of the game do to cramps. If Galloway was the receiver there is no doubt that Quincy would've hit it. I'm thinking that Galloway is the only person that runs that route and Quincy Carter has been practicing it with him and only him so his timing was off. Who cares we deserve that loss and Quincy should've made that throw. And all fingers points back to the QB so Quincy has taken responsibility for what probably would've been the game tying pass.

Our schedule definitly gets easier but nothing to sleep on. But I wouldn't be shocked if we sweep our next 3 opponents. You know the NFC East is always lagging and if we win the next 2 games we can be in first place.

Highthewholeway · Oct 7, 2002

HMMM... LMAO.

Whats up man, Its the ignorant dummy! Killer pass Quincy!
Killer pass that was almost picked off and taken to the house too..

Defenses can do just about whatever they WANT. You know WHY???? BECAUSE QUINCY CARTER FUCKIN SUCKS thats Why.
Open your fuckin eyes and stop kidding yourself with all these comparisions and excuses and blames.

KINGCZAR · Oct 7, 2002

Highway are u serious!!!??? Why are u insulting, u arent makin any educated comments!! "Carter fuckin sucks"" wow u have alot of knowlege mane! u are a footballoligist! NOT!! anyway yea yall Q.C. did his thang yesterday really impressed me, but we lost Woodsen and his backup in the second half, and we gave up a couple big plays that we shouldnt have, but we will win the next 3 games.. So watchout world!!

Highthewholeway · Oct 7, 2002

YES!!! I'm Serious King Czar... I'm sorry but I am..
I'm Insulting because I'm verbally strapped & mentally Heated. lol
Thought you knew???

Like I've said before I've probalbly forgotten more about football than you know. I talk shit because I can & I'm bored as fuck at work.. Quincy Carter is a back up & he's problably gunna end up like a Shaun King. If I remember correctly didnt Dallas throw him in because They had nobody else or some shit... Maybe because he threw a touch down or two In preseason?? Anyways I have my opinion and Dallas Fans have theres.. I could be wrong & will come out and say it if I am.. Time will Tell... So will your record.

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