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Jun 18, 2004
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Here you go logic...Quotes
On abortion:
"I don't care about the circumstances of a child's conception. You want to execute somebody in the case of rape, execute the rapist and let the unborn child live."
- From the New York Times [2/24/96]

On race relations in the 1940s and 1950s:
"There were no politics to polarize us then, to magnify every slight. The 'negroes' of Washington had their public schools, restaurants, bars, movie houses, playgrounds and churches; and we had ours." - From Right from the Beginning, Buchanan's 1988 autobiography [p. 131]

From an April 1969 memo where Buchanan urges President Nixon not to visit Martin Luther King's widow on the first anniversary of King's death: "[this visit would] outrage many, many people who believe Dr. King was a fraud and a demagogue and perhaps worse... Others consider him the Devil incarnate. Dr. King is one of the most divisive men in contemporary history." - From New York Daily News [10/1/90]

On civil rights groups:
"George Bush should have told the [NAACP convention] that black America has grown up; that the NAACP should close up shop, that its members should go home and reflect on JFK's admonition: 'Ask not what your country can do for you, but rather ask what you can do for your country.'" - From his syndicated coloumn [7/26/88]

On the United Nations and other international organizations:
"We believe "independence forever." We will reclaim every lost ounce of American sovereignty. We will lead this country out of the WTO, out of the IMF, and I will personally tell Kofi Annan: Your UN lease has run out; you will be moving out of the United States, and if you are not gone by year's end, I will send you ten thousand Marines to help you pack your bags." - From his Reform Party acceptance speech [8/14/00]

On the US's move to sanction apartheid South Africa:
"Why are Americans collaborating in a U.N. conspiracy to ruin [South Africa] with sanctions?" - From his syndicated column [9/17/89]

On race and people of color:
"There is nothing wrong with us sitting down and arguing that issue that we are a European country." - From Newsday [11/15/92]

On affirmative-action:
"How, then, can the feds justify favoring sons of Hispanics over sons of white Americans who fought in World War II or Vietnam?" - From his syndicated column [1/23/95]

On multiculturalism:
"...an across-the-board assault on our Anglo-American heritage." - From a speech given to the Christian Coalition in September 1993

On Capitol Hill:
"Israeli occupied territory" - From the St. Louis Post Dispatch [10/20/90]

On other religions:
"Our culture is superior. Our culture is superior because our religion is Christianity and that is the truth that makes men free." - From a speech given to the Christian Coalition in September 1993, as reported by an ADL 1994 report

On homosexuals:
"Homosexuality involves sexual acts most men consider not only immoral, but filthy. The reason public men rarely say aloud what most say privately is they are fearful of being branded 'bigots' by an intolerant liberal orthodoxy that holds, against all evidence and experience, that homosexuality is a normal, healthy lifestyle." - From a syndicated column [9/3/89]
"Homosexuality is not a civil right. Its rise almost always is accompanied, as in the Weimar Republic, with a decay of society and a collapse of its basic cinder block, the family." - From New Republic [3/30/92]

On women:
"Rail as they will about 'discrimination,' women are simply not endowed by nature with the same measures of single-minded ambition and the will to succeed in the fiercely competitive world of Western capitalism." - From a syndicated column [11/22/83]
"The real liberators of American women were not the feminist noise-makers, they were the automobile, the supermarket, the shopping center, the dishwasher, the washer-dryer, the freezer." - From Right from the Beginning [p. 149]

On Spanish dictator Francisco Franco:
"Catholic savior" - From Right from the Beginning

On David Duke:
"Take a hard look at Duke's portfolio of winning issues and expropriate those not in conflict with GOP principles, [such as] reverse discrimination against white folks." - From a syndicated column [2/25/89]
See also
Reform Party
Soviet Canuckistan
External Link
The American Cause (http://www.theamericancause.org/)
The American Conservative magazine (http://www.amconmag.com/)
Buchanan's Internet Brigade (http://www.buchanan.org/)
Who's afraid of Pat Buchanan? (http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/04/pat/)
 
May 2, 2002
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L Mac-a-docious said:
Here you go logic...Quotes
On abortion:
"I don't care about the circumstances of a child's conception. You want to execute somebody in the case of rape, execute the rapist and let the unborn child live."
- From the New York Times [2/24/96]
thats not racist. he's pro-life. so is bush. not that I agree whatsoever. like jay says "a womans body is her own fucking business".

L Mac-a-docious said:
On race relations in the 1940s and 1950s:
"There were no politics to polarize us then, to magnify every slight. The 'negroes' of Washington had their public schools, restaurants, bars, movie houses, playgrounds and churches; and we had ours." - From Right from the Beginning, Buchanan's 1988 autobiography [p. 131]
again, I dont see how thats racist. he's stating facts.


L Mac-a-docious said:
From an April 1969 memo where Buchanan urges President Nixon not to visit Martin Luther King's widow on the first anniversary of King's death: "[this visit would] outrage many, many people who believe Dr. King was a fraud and a demagogue and perhaps worse... Others consider him the Devil incarnate. Dr. King is one of the most divisive men in contemporary history." - From New York Daily News [10/1/90]
I know many people who feel the same way. doesnt make them racist or biggots. again, I dont agree, but it doesnt make him a biggot. and also, that coulda been taken out of context. I mean, it WAS cited by the NY daily news.


L Mac-a-docious said:
On civil rights groups:
"George Bush should have told the [NAACP convention] that black America has grown up; that the NAACP should close up shop, that its members should go home and reflect on JFK's admonition: 'Ask not what your country can do for you, but rather ask what you can do for your country.'" - From his syndicated coloumn [7/26/88]
NOT RACIST!! not racist at all. how is that racist? that's kind of along the lines of what bill cosby said.

L Mac-a-docious said:
On the United Nations and other international organizations:
"We believe "independence forever." We will reclaim every lost ounce of American sovereignty. We will lead this country out of the WTO, out of the IMF, and I will personally tell Kofi Annan: Your UN lease has run out; you will be moving out of the United States, and if you are not gone by year's end, I will send you ten thousand Marines to help you pack your bags." - From his Reform Party acceptance speech [8/14/00]
I dont get it??

L Mac-a-docious said:
On the US's move to sanction apartheid South Africa:
"Why are Americans collaborating in a U.N. conspiracy to ruin [South Africa] with sanctions?" - From his syndicated column [9/17/89]
I know south africa is composed mostly of racist white people.. but Im still failing to see the biggotry in that comment.

L Mac-a-docious said:
On race and people of color:
"There is nothing wrong with us sitting down and arguing that issue that we are a European country." - From Newsday [11/15/92]
Did we not derive from a european country? is our contry not mostly consisting of eurpean-americans?

L Mac-a-docious said:
On affirmative-action:
"How, then, can the feds justify favoring sons of Hispanics over sons of white Americans who fought in World War II or Vietnam?" - From his syndicated column [1/23/95]
I dont really understand this

L Mac-a-docious said:
On multiculturalism:
"...an across-the-board assault on our Anglo-American heritage." - From a speech given to the Christian Coalition in September 1993

On Capitol Hill:
"Israeli occupied territory" - From the St. Louis Post Dispatch [10/20/90]
shots are jews? these are so vague and out of context.

L Mac-a-docious said:
On other religions:
"Our culture is superior. Our culture is superior because our religion is Christianity and that is the truth that makes men free." - From a speech given to the Christian Coalition in September 1993, as reported by an ADL 1994 report
doesnt every religious man feel his religion is the right one. dont muslims go around saying "praise allah. allah is the best. allah is god"?

L Mac-a-docious said:
On homosexuals:
"Homosexuality involves sexual acts most men consider not only immoral, but filthy. The reason public men rarely say aloud what most say privately is they are fearful of being branded 'bigots' by an intolerant liberal orthodoxy that holds, against all evidence and experience, that homosexuality is a normal, healthy lifestyle." - From a syndicated column [9/3/89]
"Homosexuality is not a civil right. Its rise almost always is accompanied, as in the Weimar Republic, with a decay of society and a collapse of its basic cinder block, the family." - From New Republic [3/30/92]
this kinda ties in with this extremely religious beliefs. doesnt make him a racist.


so I still have yet to see any substantial evidence that buchanan is a racist. he's strict. he's very religious. and he's proud. nothing wrong with that. I feel his immigration policy 8 years ago was a brilliant idea. especially since I live in arizona where immigrants are abundant.
 

shep

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Oct 2, 2002
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In his new book, A Republic, Not An Empire, Pat Buchanan says that Britain and France were wrong to go to war with Germany in 1939. He also says that Hitler was not a threat to the United States.

This is news? Pat Buchanan says a lot of things. All of this is on the record:

Pat has called Holocaust survivors' memories "group fantasies of martyrdom."

Pat calls the U.S. Congress "Israeli-occupied territory," complaining that foreign policy is dominated by Jews.

Pat complained recently that there are too many Jews and Asians at Ivy League schools.

Pat wrote the section of Ronald Reagan's speech at Bitburg, the cemetery in which Nazi SS troops were buried, calling the Nazi soldiers "victims just as surely as the victims in the concentration camps."

Pat has written, along with those who deny the Holocaust ever happened, that carbon monoxide from diesel engines could not have killed 850,000 Jews at Treblinka.

Pat has called for closing the Justice Department office that prosecutes Nazi war criminals.

Pat says Hitler himself was "an individual of great courage" and "extraordinary gifts," even "a soldier's soldier," in spite of his genocidal habits.

Pat thinks illegal immigrants ought to be deported… except for John Demjanjuk, the accused Nazi guard who admittedly entered America illegally in 1952. Pat has also argued against the deportation of Estonian war criminal Karl Linnas and for restoring the U.S. citizenship of Nazi scientist Arthur Rudolph.

In his autobiography, among Pat's heroes are the "soldier-patriots" Francisco Franco and Augusto Pinochet. Franco was the dictator of Spain. Pinochet was the dictator of Chile. Both overthrew democracies and suppressed dissent with violence, using anti-communism as a rationale.

On the subject of democracy itself, Pat says that "like all idolatries, democratism substitutes a false god for the real, a love of process for a love of country" and that "if the people are corrupt, the more democracy, the worse the government."

Pat once said that sanctions against South Africa were "destroying the [region's] one working economy… because it doesn't adopt an idiotic 'One man, one vote' regimen."

Regarding apartheid, Pat even questioned that "white rule of a black majority is inherently wrong. Where did we get that idea? The Founding Fathers did not believe this."

Pat called Dr. Martin Luther King "one of the most divisive men in contemporary history." He also wrote a memo to Nixon saying that integration would result in "perpetual friction, as the incapable are placed consciously by government side by side with the capable."

On homosexuality, Pat has written "its rise almost always is accompanied, as in the [pre-Hitler] Weimar Republic, with a decay of society."

Pat has also written that "homosexuals appear literally hell-bent on Satanism and suicide" and that "AIDS is nature's retribution for violating the laws of nature."
 
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I think my 10th grade history teachers said it best. What lost him (Hitler) the war was killing Jews instead of using them to fight. Think about how large an army he would have had at his helm. It would have been lights out in Europe.

Also, Hitler would have defeated Russia if not for the terrible weather.
 
Jun 18, 2004
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@ psycho logic...why don't you just go all the way and drop the logic from your name...you are completely devoid of it anyway...BTW the word being thrown around was biggoted...if you can't see biggotry in those remarks then you are obviously a cheerleader of Buchanans...and wearing blinders.
 
May 2, 2002
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^^ good comeback.

Watch l mac-a-docious as he dishes out insults to prove his point.

you forgot to call me a "fag" though. that definitely woulda got me.
 
Jun 18, 2004
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Psycho Logic said:
^^ good comeback.

Watch l mac-a-docious as he dishes out insults to prove his point.

you forgot to call me a "fag" though. that definitely woulda got me.
Naw...cause I know all you conservative types want is a mud slinging contest, so that you can avoid the issues...forgive me for asking, but aren't you a black man in america? If you are I just don't see how you can be a Pat Buchanan apologist. :confused:
 
Jun 17, 2004
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New found respect for Buchanan. Finally a conservative with the common sense to call Bush on his bullshit.

BTW the reason Nazi Germany lost WWII was mostly because Hitler's growing imperialistic ideology. He started off well, but as more land and power was acquired, the more he tended to jump the gun, and took more and more diplomatic and militaristic risks. He crossed too many nations too quickly. And tried fuckin with the big boys.
 
Jul 21, 2004
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The German troops going into Russia's winter season with very little supplies, Russia not backing down, adding the United States in WWII, but the biggest impact of the war ending was A-bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, August 6 and 9, 1945.

Sometimes its not just the one person ideology controlling the fait of any event.