comcast high speed internet
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oh shit someone is mad ... LMAO
this is what you stated above
is this what you telling ... that if i connect my cable modem to a hub, and connect two computers on it (hub), the internet will be shared? IP sharing you calling it ...LOL
YOU CAN"T DO THAT, and i dont need to be Network+ Certificatitfy to know that shit... the only way that could work is if you were using a router.
unless you using some type of software to make one of those computer a host,.. which i never heard of.
the same can be applied to you, bitching about my anticz on GoM .."think about you ignorant piece of shit."
i was talking about the 2 IP addresses. not ISPs.
good for you man...maybe i'm reading your statement wrong
oh shit someone is mad ... LMAO
this is what you stated above
is this what you telling ... that if i connect my cable modem to a hub, and connect two computers on it (hub), the internet will be shared? IP sharing you calling it ...LOL
YOU CAN"T DO THAT, and i dont need to be Network+ Certificatitfy to know that shit... the only way that could work is if you were using a router.
unless you using some type of software to make one of those computer a host,.. which i never heard of.
the same can be applied to you, bitching about my anticz on GoM .."think about you ignorant piece of shit."
i was talking about the 2 IP addresses. not ISPs.
good for you man...maybe i'm reading your statement wrong
"never heard of that, sounds tight. how much for 1 of those?"
Right now they are $250. Plus this product is open source so you got developers continuously making improvements to it and making plugins for it---so you can get the weather off of it, get a news ticker on it, listen to internet radio stations on it (all if your network is hooked up to the internet). There are other programs which are made to do the same thing but their organizational structure is AWEFUL and most of them you have to browse them via your TV meaning you can't watch T.V. while you deciding what to play. This makes it easy to find all your songs because it finds all your MP3s and you can browse them by artist, album or genre. Check it out at http://www.slimp3.com.
if you look at reviews for competing devices you will ALWAYS see the slimp3 mentioned.
Right now they are $250. Plus this product is open source so you got developers continuously making improvements to it and making plugins for it---so you can get the weather off of it, get a news ticker on it, listen to internet radio stations on it (all if your network is hooked up to the internet). There are other programs which are made to do the same thing but their organizational structure is AWEFUL and most of them you have to browse them via your TV meaning you can't watch T.V. while you deciding what to play. This makes it easy to find all your songs because it finds all your MP3s and you can browse them by artist, album or genre. Check it out at http://www.slimp3.com.
if you look at reviews for competing devices you will ALWAYS see the slimp3 mentioned.
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ok smart ass, explain to me tha difference, in detail, between a router and a hub. i'll school you tomorrow after you give me you're wild guess for an answer.
and an IP cant be shared? then how is it that i'm on a computer WITH THA SAME IP ADDRESS AS MY NEIGHBOR'S? CARE TO EXPLAIN SMART GUY?
az for IP and ISP shit you said.... it wuz an example you fruit, guess you're really not as smart as you THINK you are.
ok smart ass, explain to me tha difference, in detail, between a router and a hub. i'll school you tomorrow after you give me you're wild guess for an answer.
and an IP cant be shared? then how is it that i'm on a computer WITH THA SAME IP ADDRESS AS MY NEIGHBOR'S? CARE TO EXPLAIN SMART GUY?
az for IP and ISP shit you said.... it wuz an example you fruit, guess you're really not as smart as you THINK you are.
"ok smart ass, explain to me tha difference, in detail, between a router and a hub. i'll school you tomorrow after you give me you're wild guess for an answer."
not trying to jump in your guy's little argument here but I don't think you want him to explain. I mean, what are you getting at? You DO know the difference right? I don't doubt that you got certified, but I do question if you have used any of the info you learned. If you are getting 1 IP address from your ISP then you WILL NOT connect multiple computers up to the internet with a hub UNLESS you setup one of the computers to act as the proxy server (and that's old school, no need for that). What's the difference between a hub and a router? Well a router "routes" the info coming into it from the one IP to each computer. Whereas with a hub none of the computers are going to know what info goes where. You can not connect the outside world network to your network with a hub because all your computers are going to be talking to the same IP. That is what a router is for--to connect and route traffic from separate networks.
not trying to jump in your guy's little argument here but I don't think you want him to explain. I mean, what are you getting at? You DO know the difference right? I don't doubt that you got certified, but I do question if you have used any of the info you learned. If you are getting 1 IP address from your ISP then you WILL NOT connect multiple computers up to the internet with a hub UNLESS you setup one of the computers to act as the proxy server (and that's old school, no need for that). What's the difference between a hub and a router? Well a router "routes" the info coming into it from the one IP to each computer. Whereas with a hub none of the computers are going to know what info goes where. You can not connect the outside world network to your network with a hub because all your computers are going to be talking to the same IP. That is what a router is for--to connect and route traffic from separate networks.
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ok here is goes.
whatever packet that gets sent on a hub, goes to each computer that is connected to it. that a a hub....it doesnt look at the packet for address info...it just sends the shit to all computers on the hub.
switches are different, in that it analizizes packets according to MAC addresses...good for local networks. better than a hub, becuase it redirects traffic.
on a router is similar but instead of MAC addresses, it analizize the packets and gets send according to IP address...not only that but the router gets its own IP address.
that IP address can't be from an ISP. its prolly a local area network.,
i will mail you nefar's cisco certified plus plus # networks certificate v4.5.1 put that on your resume and let the employers know whats up .....LMAO
ok here is goes.
whatever packet that gets sent on a hub, goes to each computer that is connected to it. that a a hub....it doesnt look at the packet for address info...it just sends the shit to all computers on the hub.
switches are different, in that it analizizes packets according to MAC addresses...good for local networks. better than a hub, becuase it redirects traffic.
on a router is similar but instead of MAC addresses, it analizize the packets and gets send according to IP address...not only that but the router gets its own IP address.
that IP address can't be from an ISP. its prolly a local area network.,
i will mail you nefar's cisco certified plus plus # networks certificate v4.5.1 put that on your resume and let the employers know whats up .....LMAO
actually you dont need that bullshit software that they give you.
just plug in the modem to your PC and there you go internet ... make sure its gets the IP automaticty,
to share internet with another PC, you need two cards on one PC, and one card on the other PC
plug in the modem and a crossover cable, then connect the other end of the crossover cable to the computer with one network card. .... very brief.....for the compputer with 2cards, it needs win98 2nd or winXP both have the ablitlty to share internet within there operating system.
make sure its "crossover cable" ....you can take regular cable and make your own crossover, you have to switch 2 wires...tutorials are online.
sure do.
nah i just sit on my fat ass and drink beer all day and let it go to waste.
actually that'z not really "old school."
that'z right, good job buddy!
sorry but no. tha hub takez that one signal and distributez it around. i'll get into that in a minute....
you think so? IP addresses are needed SOLELY for that "outside world internet." computerz on LAN's do not need IP addresses unless tha TCP/IP protocol is being used.
partially true. let me get onto nefar's post real quick....
nah i just sit on my fat ass and drink beer all day and let it go to waste.
actually that'z not really "old school."
that'z right, good job buddy!
sorry but no. tha hub takez that one signal and distributez it around. i'll get into that in a minute....
you think so? IP addresses are needed SOLELY for that "outside world internet." computerz on LAN's do not need IP addresses unless tha TCP/IP protocol is being used.
partially true. let me get onto nefar's post real quick....
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nice try. sum of it is 100% true but then again that'z not tha real difference between em. Hit The Blunt had a much better attempt.
nope we dont have a LAN running. try again. and tha ISP iz Merced Net.
i'm trying to GET jobs not lose them instantly! LMAO.
anyway my whole point wuz, they do not distribute 2 IP addresses. there'z absolutely no point in that! you're on Comcast so you're obviously on a Class C network.... therefor when you use a hub, each computer connected to it getz it'z own address. similar to a router, your ISP seez one address. same with any log file that a web site may keep. if you go to bitch.com on your computer and then go to bitch.com on tha other computer, their log file iz gonna have tha same IP in it for both computerz.
and you say they gave you 2 IP addresses right? well those two computers are using them then, right? add another computer to that hub.... i bet it workz. so then does that mean Comcast is giving you THREE IP's? let me know wut you think.
granted, i dont know how stupid Comcast is. maybe they do give 2 IP's, but that's not needed. and that's my point. you were all happy bcuz sumone told you they give you two IP's and u used a hub and now you got two computerz connected. LoL. i just saw it funny.
here'z another one for you too.... my homeboy has one account and one IP from Pac Bell DSL.... he has a hub distributing that signal to three computers, and each one has tha same IP when he pings my comp. but if he pings one comp on his hub to another on his hub, tha IP's come out differently. point being tha hub is distributing IP addresses, not Pac Bell. fuck it man i'm too hung over to be typing this shit. i almost fell asleep twice while doing it.
have fun with your DSL homeboy.
nice try. sum of it is 100% true but then again that'z not tha real difference between em. Hit The Blunt had a much better attempt.
nope we dont have a LAN running. try again. and tha ISP iz Merced Net.
i'm trying to GET jobs not lose them instantly! LMAO.
anyway my whole point wuz, they do not distribute 2 IP addresses. there'z absolutely no point in that! you're on Comcast so you're obviously on a Class C network.... therefor when you use a hub, each computer connected to it getz it'z own address. similar to a router, your ISP seez one address. same with any log file that a web site may keep. if you go to bitch.com on your computer and then go to bitch.com on tha other computer, their log file iz gonna have tha same IP in it for both computerz.
and you say they gave you 2 IP addresses right? well those two computers are using them then, right? add another computer to that hub.... i bet it workz. so then does that mean Comcast is giving you THREE IP's? let me know wut you think.
granted, i dont know how stupid Comcast is. maybe they do give 2 IP's, but that's not needed. and that's my point. you were all happy bcuz sumone told you they give you two IP's and u used a hub and now you got two computerz connected. LoL. i just saw it funny.
here'z another one for you too.... my homeboy has one account and one IP from Pac Bell DSL.... he has a hub distributing that signal to three computers, and each one has tha same IP when he pings my comp. but if he pings one comp on his hub to another on his hub, tha IP's come out differently. point being tha hub is distributing IP addresses, not Pac Bell. fuck it man i'm too hung over to be typing this shit. i almost fell asleep twice while doing it.
have fun with your DSL homeboy.
You mean I can just hook up the modem straight to the PC and it should recognize the modem automatically?
I guess it depends on the PC's operating system.
I wanted to do this for Win98 2nd ed.
I have WinXp, so in order to share my internet with my lil bro's PC, I need to get an additional ethernet card.
I see....
But let me see if I understand you correctly,
I need to hook up the modem to my bros pc via crossover wire first?
Thanx for the help,
Miggidy
I guess it depends on the PC's operating system.
I wanted to do this for Win98 2nd ed.
I have WinXp, so in order to share my internet with my lil bro's PC, I need to get an additional ethernet card.
I see....
But let me see if I understand you correctly,
I need to hook up the modem to my bros pc via crossover wire first?
Thanx for the help,
Miggidy
"therefor when you use a hub, each computer connected to it getz it'z own address. similar to a router, your ISP seez one address."
You are too much for me. a HUB is not doing ANYTHING but blindly broadcasting whatever goes through it to everything it is connected to. Each computer is NOT getting it's own address from a HUB. Once again--If software is not running on one of those 3 computers on your boyz network then all 3 computers WILL NOT get on the internet. I will GUARENTEE that there is 1 computer on that network that if you turn off then the others will not access the internet because that computer is running the networking software deciphering the data coming in from your ISPs assigned IP and routing it back 'through' your hub (your hub which does NOTHING but let data flow through it) to each computer on your LAN. Think of it like this. If you want to get one IP address given to you by your ISP to 3 computers you will need a mediator. That mediator will either come in the form of a router or one of the computers on the network that is running some type of internet sharing software. A hub is not a mediator, everything that flows in one end blindly flows out the other ends.
You are too much for me. a HUB is not doing ANYTHING but blindly broadcasting whatever goes through it to everything it is connected to. Each computer is NOT getting it's own address from a HUB. Once again--If software is not running on one of those 3 computers on your boyz network then all 3 computers WILL NOT get on the internet. I will GUARENTEE that there is 1 computer on that network that if you turn off then the others will not access the internet because that computer is running the networking software deciphering the data coming in from your ISPs assigned IP and routing it back 'through' your hub (your hub which does NOTHING but let data flow through it) to each computer on your LAN. Think of it like this. If you want to get one IP address given to you by your ISP to 3 computers you will need a mediator. That mediator will either come in the form of a router or one of the computers on the network that is running some type of internet sharing software. A hub is not a mediator, everything that flows in one end blindly flows out the other ends.
damn dogg wut dont you understand? tha DSL connection is DIRECTLY CONNECTED to tha hub. it sendz that signal to all three computerz. there'z no way in hell you're gonna prove me wrong so quit it. i wuz just there and they dont have any special software so just kill it. all that shit you typed makez you seem very knowledgeable, but that'z obviously very deceiving. unless you're not understanding wut im saying, you're acting like a fool. how u gonna prove my ass wrong anyway? wut certz do u have to back up your knowledge? i have a fuckin book right here on my desk telling me exactly wut im trying to tell you!!!! maybe it'z my fault tho, maybe i'm not good at explaining shit, which is why i would never be a teacher. but either way you can kill it cuz from my EXPERIENCES IN THA FIELD, my damn book right in front of me, and my damn instructor'z intense teachingz there'z no chance you know this shit over me. drop it. im not here to argue about wut i deal with on a daily basis, that'z like a gardener wanting to come home and do more gardening. fuck that.
"damn dogg wut dont you understand?"
I understand what your saying. And it's wrong.
"tha DSL connection is DIRECTLY CONNECTED to tha hub."
So? That doesn't mean only 1 computer isn't doing all the "work". Let's say we have computer A, B, and C which are all hooked up to the Hub and the Hub is hooked up to the DSL or Cable line. All the info that is coming in from the Cable line is getting shot right back out to A B C. However, because the hub is dumb (for lack of a better word) it does nothing but shoot that same info to every computer (it does not route that info like you claim it does). One of those computers, we'll call it A, has internet sharing software and is configured to get data from the ISPs IP---the other computers are not and they ignore the info the hub sends them (or if none of them had software, it would be first come first served, and then if another computer tried to get access it wouldn't get it--or too often then not none of them will get it because the data will get jumbled). Computer A then routes that data back through the hub to the other computers according to their local address. Those computers use the info intended for them and then send it back to computer A, which then routes it back through the ISPs IP.
"wut certz do u have to back up your knowledge?"
I'm an MCSE -- (Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer). However, now I'm moving into the financial arena (just passed my series 7), so I haven't done too much hands on in the past year besides hooking up friends networks. But trust me that question was dumb, I ran into countless morons who were "certified". In fact there are many people out there who are way more qualified to build a network who might not even pass the certification.
"there'z no chance you know this shit over me"
lol. ego. Get over yourself. you know what---fuck it. i'll go get you a freakin link.
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Broadband/Q_20599948.html
basically just look at "jnri's" question (weed through the BS) and look at "Mrclean0325's" answer.
I understand what your saying. And it's wrong.
"tha DSL connection is DIRECTLY CONNECTED to tha hub."
So? That doesn't mean only 1 computer isn't doing all the "work". Let's say we have computer A, B, and C which are all hooked up to the Hub and the Hub is hooked up to the DSL or Cable line. All the info that is coming in from the Cable line is getting shot right back out to A B C. However, because the hub is dumb (for lack of a better word) it does nothing but shoot that same info to every computer (it does not route that info like you claim it does). One of those computers, we'll call it A, has internet sharing software and is configured to get data from the ISPs IP---the other computers are not and they ignore the info the hub sends them (or if none of them had software, it would be first come first served, and then if another computer tried to get access it wouldn't get it--or too often then not none of them will get it because the data will get jumbled). Computer A then routes that data back through the hub to the other computers according to their local address. Those computers use the info intended for them and then send it back to computer A, which then routes it back through the ISPs IP.
"wut certz do u have to back up your knowledge?"
I'm an MCSE -- (Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer). However, now I'm moving into the financial arena (just passed my series 7), so I haven't done too much hands on in the past year besides hooking up friends networks. But trust me that question was dumb, I ran into countless morons who were "certified". In fact there are many people out there who are way more qualified to build a network who might not even pass the certification.
"there'z no chance you know this shit over me"
lol. ego. Get over yourself. you know what---fuck it. i'll go get you a freakin link.
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Broadband/Q_20599948.html
basically just look at "jnri's" question (weed through the BS) and look at "Mrclean0325's" answer.