look, there are many religion extremists. Its just what the media pays attention to. They dont pay attention to every gay bash, or kkk hate crime or any other christian violence, because thats not what they want us to see. they want us to believe that everyone in the middle east is taking action against the people who drew this cartoon. They want us to believe that they are an unstable people and violent. In actuality, christians as well as muslims and everyother religion has just as violent extremists. The media just shows the bad of other religions(not the american majority one)
Can someone post the cartoon of Muhammad
- Thread starter Speedy
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Correct-a-fucking-mundo.
As long as the media is owned by large corporations that are helped by our gov't then you won't get the full story. I mean, I'm not a fucking broadcast journalism student or anything, so why would I know ANYTHING? lol...I'm glad that you said this shit though man, cause it gets old bein the only one saying this shit and having people be morons and not get it.
There is an extremist of EVERY kind out there, of every race, gender, religion, or sexual preference. Some of them are violent and some of them are not. The message that OUR GOV'T wants us to get is..."MUSLIMS ARE MAD, VIOLENT, UNSTABLE, HORRIBLE PEOPLE. THEY MUST DIE." And they do this by SHOWING YOU IMAGES that tell you this. Television SHOWS you more so than tells you. That's the idea behind it, the viewer gets ONE chance to get the message, so they make it as extreme as possible to get their point across.
Again,this is not an issue of Muslism being extremist and Christians being passive lambs. This is an issue of Muslims being extremists when OFFENSIVE IMAGES are shown and Christians being extremists when OFFENSIVE IMAGES are shown.
This is NOT an issue of manipulated media or smokescreen. I believe this was orchestrated, and I said this in my first post.
@Sixxness when have you been the only one saying ANYTHING? From day one I have ALWAYS said to beware of the media (the A.P. for example) and to follow the money trail. Don't you think its a bit far-fetched to make the claim that you're the only one saying anything important?
@ 206 you said:
No, your point has nothing do with what I am talking about. We have extremist on both sides. We have established this. What I am saying is you don't have christian extremist blowing shit up for sacrilegious reasons or offensive images. You have christians blowing shit up because of misinterpretation of scriptures, values (which THEY believe are right) and morality (which THEY believe are right.) This is DIFFERENT from people getting upset at INK printed on PAPER and rioting.
I'm glad you note the possibility of this man not being a christian. Truth is you DON'T know if he was a christian, but you assume he was based on the stickers and images plastered over the vehicle he was driving. That man could have been driving eratic (almost running you off the road) because he was in a stolen vehicle or because he was in a hurry to get to the hospital to see his dying child. You have no proof that he did this because of your emblem.
Again, I see what you are listing as "stink." This is DIFFERENT from mass riots across the globe and a price tag being placed on someones head. You do NOT see christians rioting like muslims (due to images.)
And, I can quote Mein Kampf (just as you can) to show his racist and occultic beliefs. Did he implement the so-called "christian" belief because it would help in his "fight" against "the jews" and rise to leader? Let me ask you a question, comrade. What is your definition of christian? What christian sect did Hitler belong to?
I am not debating his close contacts with the USA. I am not debating this was very well calculated (please refer to my first post in this thread.) What I am saying is america (who you implied as the worlds super power did NOT create these images.) Honestly, I believe the order came from a higher source. Amongst other things to consider are the differences between christian and muslim beliefs. In islam their so-called prophet is an icon and they hold him close to heart and forbid images of any kind. In some (most) forms of christianity Jesus is depicted and the images are not forbidden. With that being said you can't say christians would riot over images because they both have different takes on the issue.
Are they currently doing it on the planet? Is it on a large scale?
ALL people who want to spread their beliefs the WRONG way do this. You have christians, pagans, muslims, hindus and athiests who have done this. Doing so in the name of God and doing so because of IMAGES are two distinct reasons. You must remember the muslims are not rioting in the name of allah. The muslism are rioting because their so-called prophet was ridiculed.
What you listed is fuel for the fire I give you that. However, it is my belief muslims would still riot but not in large forces. Once again, what you listed is fuel for the fire and only adds to the rage.
In closing I would like to add something else to the subject. Does anyone find the timeline within the last 4 months ironic? First you have new "Bin Laden" tapes hitting the public. Next you have a notorius "terrorist" escape prison, then you have the ridicule of islam and now you have a 2 year old beating tape hit the scene?
This is NOT an issue of manipulated media or smokescreen. I believe this was orchestrated, and I said this in my first post.
@Sixxness when have you been the only one saying ANYTHING? From day one I have ALWAYS said to beware of the media (the A.P. for example) and to follow the money trail. Don't you think its a bit far-fetched to make the claim that you're the only one saying anything important?
@ 206 you said:
No, your point has nothing do with what I am talking about. We have extremist on both sides. We have established this. What I am saying is you don't have christian extremist blowing shit up for sacrilegious reasons or offensive images. You have christians blowing shit up because of misinterpretation of scriptures, values (which THEY believe are right) and morality (which THEY believe are right.) This is DIFFERENT from people getting upset at INK printed on PAPER and rioting.
I'm glad you note the possibility of this man not being a christian. Truth is you DON'T know if he was a christian, but you assume he was based on the stickers and images plastered over the vehicle he was driving. That man could have been driving eratic (almost running you off the road) because he was in a stolen vehicle or because he was in a hurry to get to the hospital to see his dying child. You have no proof that he did this because of your emblem.
Again, I see what you are listing as "stink." This is DIFFERENT from mass riots across the globe and a price tag being placed on someones head. You do NOT see christians rioting like muslims (due to images.)
And, I can quote Mein Kampf (just as you can) to show his racist and occultic beliefs. Did he implement the so-called "christian" belief because it would help in his "fight" against "the jews" and rise to leader? Let me ask you a question, comrade. What is your definition of christian? What christian sect did Hitler belong to?
I am not debating his close contacts with the USA. I am not debating this was very well calculated (please refer to my first post in this thread.) What I am saying is america (who you implied as the worlds super power did NOT create these images.) Honestly, I believe the order came from a higher source. Amongst other things to consider are the differences between christian and muslim beliefs. In islam their so-called prophet is an icon and they hold him close to heart and forbid images of any kind. In some (most) forms of christianity Jesus is depicted and the images are not forbidden. With that being said you can't say christians would riot over images because they both have different takes on the issue.
Are they currently doing it on the planet? Is it on a large scale?
ALL people who want to spread their beliefs the WRONG way do this. You have christians, pagans, muslims, hindus and athiests who have done this. Doing so in the name of God and doing so because of IMAGES are two distinct reasons. You must remember the muslims are not rioting in the name of allah. The muslism are rioting because their so-called prophet was ridiculed.
What you listed is fuel for the fire I give you that. However, it is my belief muslims would still riot but not in large forces. Once again, what you listed is fuel for the fire and only adds to the rage.
In closing I would like to add something else to the subject. Does anyone find the timeline within the last 4 months ironic? First you have new "Bin Laden" tapes hitting the public. Next you have a notorius "terrorist" escape prison, then you have the ridicule of islam and now you have a 2 year old beating tape hit the scene?
Play dumb if you want. No, one is sending a mixed message. You're simply looking for a cop out because you failed to address the points and you want someone to save you. If it makes it any better tack on EXTREMIST in big bold, size 7 letters after I used the word muslim. If you are incapable of doing so refer to these quotes within the post.
I said that it makes it sound like that. If I made it sound like I didn't know what you were talking about, that was not my intention. I was pointing out that you didn't say exactly what you meant (or what I think you meant).
"The muslism are rioting because their so-called prophet was ridiculed."
I may understand what you meant cause I actually paid some attention to what you said but that shit still makes you sound like you're saying two different things. You would have pointed it out in someone else's posts, I'm just doing the same. No disrespect intended.
"The muslism are rioting because their so-called prophet was ridiculed."
I may understand what you meant cause I actually paid some attention to what you said but that shit still makes you sound like you're saying two different things. You would have pointed it out in someone else's posts, I'm just doing the same. No disrespect intended.
they would have called it Islamic Republic of Iran, not Iran's Islamic government
they my friend are referring to irans religion
@the rest
i dunno but i see where they are comming from
the way they live n all
i grew up in a muslim family, and if you had to humiliate yourself, or hurt yourself, or do anything in order to stop something that contradicts islam, then you would do so
ESPECIALLY in large groups
also remember how the arabs were basically isolated from the "new world", so they dont care about reputation, especially reputation for nonbelievers
i remember one time when i was around 11 my mom made me pick up fuckin pennies off the floor at KMART because it says "In GOD we trust", and hot bitches were watchin me, but being the loyal muslim that i was, i picked all of them up
now how embarrassing is that
little things like that is how muslims live their day
its normal for them to fight for Islam on a daily basis
again, this is not a surprise to me, and i dont see it ending anytime soon
they my friend are referring to irans religion
@the rest
i dunno but i see where they are comming from
the way they live n all
i grew up in a muslim family, and if you had to humiliate yourself, or hurt yourself, or do anything in order to stop something that contradicts islam, then you would do so
ESPECIALLY in large groups
also remember how the arabs were basically isolated from the "new world", so they dont care about reputation, especially reputation for nonbelievers
i remember one time when i was around 11 my mom made me pick up fuckin pennies off the floor at KMART because it says "In GOD we trust", and hot bitches were watchin me, but being the loyal muslim that i was, i picked all of them up
now how embarrassing is that
little things like that is how muslims live their day
its normal for them to fight for Islam on a daily basis
again, this is not a surprise to me, and i dont see it ending anytime soon
1st of all.. U dont understand shit about it. Islam prohibits the images of God along with the prophets. when u draw pictures of God or Prophet Muhammad, it encourages idolatry, the worshipping of images and thats wrong in the Islamic religion. For Christians, Jesus pictures are everywhere and so are pictures of Mary That is not against Christianity to have pictures and images of God. Since no one knows what the Prophet looks like, your not suppossed to draw or take guesses and sketch. Thats why Muslims all over the world are pissed Get your facts straight.
Arab in N.O.
Look at your name, the date you joined and your FIRST post. Its OBVIOUS you are a current member under another name. Why are you behaving like a coward?
First of all you are incorrect in stating I don't know about it. Second of all you are an IDIOT and DON'T know how to read. Here is what I previously said:
PAY ATTENTION MONKEY AND READ BEFORE YOU REPLY. Lets look at the rest of your stupidity:
REFER TO THE PREVIOUS STATEMENT.
Either you had too much bacon this morning ( :dead: ) or you're just plain retarded. Why are you typing the above when I already said:
Here is more stupidity on your part:
You, my friend, are the DUMBEST member on this site. Only a FOOL (such as yourself) would believe muslims are getting upset simply because pictures and sketches were made. These people have OPENLY stated they are upset because of the way the drawings depict the so-called prophet. If they were regular drawings you would not have mass outrage, but the fact that he was RIDICULED is the point.
Have you been reading ANYTHING that has been posted, dummy?
Look at your name, the date you joined and your FIRST post. Its OBVIOUS you are a current member under another name. Why are you behaving like a coward?
First of all you are incorrect in stating I don't know about it. Second of all you are an IDIOT and DON'T know how to read. Here is what I previously said:
PAY ATTENTION MONKEY AND READ BEFORE YOU REPLY. Lets look at the rest of your stupidity:
REFER TO THE PREVIOUS STATEMENT.
Either you had too much bacon this morning ( :dead: ) or you're just plain retarded. Why are you typing the above when I already said:
Here is more stupidity on your part:
You, my friend, are the DUMBEST member on this site. Only a FOOL (such as yourself) would believe muslims are getting upset simply because pictures and sketches were made. These people have OPENLY stated they are upset because of the way the drawings depict the so-called prophet. If they were regular drawings you would not have mass outrage, but the fact that he was RIDICULED is the point.
Have you been reading ANYTHING that has been posted, dummy?
actually no bitch i havent read anything that was posted earlier and its obvious that i am a current member under another name and im acting like a coward??? my other name won't work when i try to log in it won't let me. i tried to email the siccness webmaster but it wont work thats y i got a new user name u fag. u say u know about it but then why are you acting like a damn moron and a racist? I have to say you are worse than my ma u went to all that trouble just to end up lookn like a bitch
Actually, you should not refer to your father as "bitch" my child. The fact you have NOT read anything but went so far to QUOTE me PROVES my point!!!!! You, my son, are a complete idiot.
Excuses and explanations are not required coward.
Now you're confusing me with your brother.
How am I acting like a moron and racist? You are the one who came out the blue and started quoting me when all you had to do was READ!!!
But you ARE a bitch so which is worse? :dead:
Excuses and explanations are not required coward.
Now you're confusing me with your brother.
How am I acting like a moron and racist? You are the one who came out the blue and started quoting me when all you had to do was READ!!!
But you ARE a bitch so which is worse? :dead:
u did it again... adding all those quotes and older posts... in the end how do you feel? u must be one of them computer geeks that stays on posting shit all the time. i quoted you because i didnt like your attitude. you say you understand but then again you sound like you are mocking everything btw im not lying about my screen name why would i make another one for? and mother fucker who the hell do u think you are calling yourself my father?? a piece of shit like you could never be my father and you know shit about me other than my race and where i live.
{Now you're confusing me with your brother.}
nigga that shit right there is just L A M E im not postn no more because i have a life to live. so now ima let you get back to postn more shit to say because in the words of Lil Jon..."Only Bitches Talk SHit"
{Now you're confusing me with your brother.}
nigga that shit right there is just L A M E im not postn no more because i have a life to live. so now ima let you get back to postn more shit to say because in the words of Lil Jon..."Only Bitches Talk SHit"
I feel a superiority complex. It's not much considering YOU are not much, but it does get the meter moving.
If this were the case so what? You are a DUMMY with a computer who can't even type complete paragraphs and sentences. A computer in my hand is a tool to make money. A computer in your hand is a tool to show the entire world how foolish you are.
Other than you, who in this life gives a damn about your likes or dislikes? No one, because you are not important, and this is the closest you will EVER come to being recognized by someone who IS important. What you quoted was directed at someone else, and if you were to pay attention to the flow of the convo (by reading) you would understand my position.
How do I sound like I am mocking when I have explained the differences between christian and muslim images and the reasons WHY muslims are upset BEFORE you even came to this thread? Again, you are a dummy!
You are a faggot.
I am your DADDY and you are correct in calling me MOTHER FUCKER:dead:
Please take a basic english course.
You should NOT have posted to begin with!!!! You have no life to live. You are a worm fit to gnaw the dirt for the rest of your life. Just accept it.
Now you're quoting Lil Jon?!?!?!?! You are a faggot. I don't need to say anything else about you.
If this were the case so what? You are a DUMMY with a computer who can't even type complete paragraphs and sentences. A computer in my hand is a tool to make money. A computer in your hand is a tool to show the entire world how foolish you are.
Other than you, who in this life gives a damn about your likes or dislikes? No one, because you are not important, and this is the closest you will EVER come to being recognized by someone who IS important. What you quoted was directed at someone else, and if you were to pay attention to the flow of the convo (by reading) you would understand my position.
How do I sound like I am mocking when I have explained the differences between christian and muslim images and the reasons WHY muslims are upset BEFORE you even came to this thread? Again, you are a dummy!
You are a faggot.
I am your DADDY and you are correct in calling me MOTHER FUCKER:dead:
Please take a basic english course.
You should NOT have posted to begin with!!!! You have no life to live. You are a worm fit to gnaw the dirt for the rest of your life. Just accept it.
Now you're quoting Lil Jon?!?!?!?! You are a faggot. I don't need to say anything else about you.