Bush Admin Was Wrong on Iraq WMDs

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Jan 9, 2004
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TENET BECOMES THE SCAPEGOAT FOR CIA INCOMPETENCY AND BUSH ADMIN ZEALOUSNESS FOR WAR.

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Report blames 'group think' for CIA failures on Iraq
Friday, July 9, 2004 Posted: 11:24 AM EDT (1524 GMT)


WASHINGTON (AP) -- The key U.S. assertions leading to the 2003 invasion of Iraq -- that Saddam Hussein had chemical and biological weapons and was working to make nuclear weapons -- were wrong and based on false or overstated CIA analyses, a scathing Senate Intelligence Committee report asserted Friday.

Intelligence analysts fell victim to "group think" assumptions that Iraq had weapons that it did not, concluded the bipartisan report.

Many factors contributing to those failures are ongoing problems within the U.S. intelligence community -- which cannot be fixed with more money alone, it said.

Sen. Pat Roberts, a Kansas Republican who heads the committee, told reporters that assessments that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons and could make a nuclear weapon by the end of the decade were wrong.

"As the report will show, they were also unreasonable and largely unsupported by the available intelligence," he said.

"This was a global intelligence failure."

The report repeatedly blasts departing CIA Director George Tenet, accusing him of skewing advice to top policy-makers with the CIA's view and elbowing out dissenting views from other intelligence agencies overseen by the State or Defense departments.

It faulted Tenet for not personally reviewing Bush's 2003 State of the Union address, which contained since-discredited references to Iraq's attempts to purchase uranium in Africa.

White House spokesman, Scott McClellan, traveling with President Bush on a campaign trip Friday, said the committee's report essentially "agrees with what we have said, which is we need to take steps to continue strengthening and reforming our intelligence capabilities so we are prepared to meet the new threats that we face in this day and age."

Tenet has resigned and leaves office Sunday.

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Intelligence analysts worked from the assumption that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons and was seeking to make more, as well as trying to revive a nuclear weapons program.

Instead, investigations after the Iraq invasion have shown that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein had no nuclear weapons program and no biological weapons, and only small amounts of chemical weapons have been found.

Analysts ignored or discounted conflicting information because of their assumptions that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, the report said.

"This 'group think' dynamic led Intelligence Community analysts, collectors and managers to both interpret ambiguous evidence as conclusively indicative of a WMD program as well as ignore or minimize evidence that Iraq did not have active and expanding weapons of mass destruction programs," the report concluded.

Such assumptions also led analysts to inflate snippets of questionable information into broad declarations that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons, the report said.

For example, speculation that the presence of one specialized truck could mean an effort to transfer chemical weapons was puffed up into a conclusion that Iraq was actively making chemical weapons, the report said.

Analysts also concluded that Iraq had a mobile biological weapons program based mainly on the since-discredited claims of one Iraqi defector code-named "Curve Ball," it said.

American agents did not have direct access to Curve Ball or his debriefers, but the source's information was expanded into the conclusion that Iraq had an advanced and active biological weapons program, the report said.
 
Jul 7, 2002
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i remember well, the last october before the iraq war. George Tenet stated very well that iraq wasn't a threat. it was a major blow to the bush admin, but a few months later, Tenet stated the opposite. what the bush admin wanted to hear.

the story was on all major newspapers
 
May 13, 2002
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WWII began with two simple lies.

Lie number one: "Terrorists burned down the Reichstag." (The Reichstag passed the Enabling Act, similar to the Patriot Act. Fact: Hitler burnt the Reichstag in order to have complete power)

Lie number two: Poland attacks Germany, thus Germany invades Poland.
 

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Nov 10, 2002
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Off topic,

2-0-Sixx said:
WWII began with two simple lies.
A bit of an oversimplification there.

Lie number one: "Terrorists burned down the Reichstag." (The Reichstag passed the Enabling Act, similar to the Patriot Act. Fact: Hitler burnt the Reichstag in order to have complete power)
Not factual. The Reichstag was burned down by a Dutchman and it was then claimed by the Nazis that it was a Communist plot (Several others, members of the German Communist Party were arrested for taking part in the "conspiracy"). Subsequently, it was believed that the Nazis started the fire deliberately as an excuse for a purge on the Communists, but as I recollect, relatively recent investigations have in fact suggested that he acted of his own accord. I'll try to find some links to back this up.

In any case, it helped Hitler's rise to power.
 
Jun 24, 2004
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TOKZTLI said:
TENET BECOMES THE SCAPEGOAT FOR CIA INCOMPETENCY AND BUSH ADMIN ZEALOUSNESS FOR WAR.

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Report blames 'group think' for CIA failures on Iraq
Friday, July 9, 2004 Posted: 11:24 AM EDT (1524 GMT)


WASHINGTON (AP) -- The key U.S. assertions leading to the 2003 invasion of Iraq -- that Saddam Hussein had chemical and biological weapons and was working to make nuclear weapons -- were wrong and based on false or overstated CIA analyses, a scathing Senate Intelligence Committee report asserted Friday.

Intelligence analysts fell victim to "group think" assumptions that Iraq had weapons that it did not, concluded the bipartisan report.

Many factors contributing to those failures are ongoing problems within the U.S. intelligence community -- which cannot be fixed with more money alone, it said.

Sen. Pat Roberts, a Kansas Republican who heads the committee, told reporters that assessments that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons and could make a nuclear weapon by the end of the decade were wrong.

"As the report will show, they were also unreasonable and largely unsupported by the available intelligence," he said.

"This was a global intelligence failure."

The report repeatedly blasts departing CIA Director George Tenet, accusing him of skewing advice to top policy-makers with the CIA's view and elbowing out dissenting views from other intelligence agencies overseen by the State or Defense departments.

It faulted Tenet for not personally reviewing Bush's 2003 State of the Union address, which contained since-discredited references to Iraq's attempts to purchase uranium in Africa.

White House spokesman, Scott McClellan, traveling with President Bush on a campaign trip Friday, said the committee's report essentially "agrees with what we have said, which is we need to take steps to continue strengthening and reforming our intelligence capabilities so we are prepared to meet the new threats that we face in this day and age."

Tenet has resigned and leaves office Sunday.

Questionable information
Intelligence analysts worked from the assumption that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons and was seeking to make more, as well as trying to revive a nuclear weapons program.

Instead, investigations after the Iraq invasion have shown that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein had no nuclear weapons program and no biological weapons, and only small amounts of chemical weapons have been found.

Analysts ignored or discounted conflicting information because of their assumptions that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, the report said.

"This 'group think' dynamic led Intelligence Community analysts, collectors and managers to both interpret ambiguous evidence as conclusively indicative of a WMD program as well as ignore or minimize evidence that Iraq did not have active and expanding weapons of mass destruction programs," the report concluded.

Such assumptions also led analysts to inflate snippets of questionable information into broad declarations that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons, the report said.

For example, speculation that the presence of one specialized truck could mean an effort to transfer chemical weapons was puffed up into a conclusion that Iraq was actively making chemical weapons, the report said.

Analysts also concluded that Iraq had a mobile biological weapons program based mainly on the since-discredited claims of one Iraqi defector code-named "Curve Ball," it said.

American agents did not have direct access to Curve Ball or his debriefers, but the source's information was expanded into the conclusion that Iraq had an advanced and active biological weapons program, the report said.


isnt the FIRST or LAST time our intel was wrong. I mean they were giving our soldiers fucking tourist maps over in grenada
 
Dec 25, 2003
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You watch Scarborough country last night too! OMG that episode was awesome. Heh.

Colin Powell
Secretary of State.
"But if the heart of your question is whether or not we see any complicity between Iraq and the events of Sept. 11 through Al Qaeda, we do not have that connection."

"Powell 2001: WMDs Not Significant
Asked about the sanctions placed on Iraq, which were then under review at the Security Council, Powell said the measures were working. In fact, he added, "(Saddam Hussein) has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors. So in effect, our policies have strengthened the security of the neighbors of Iraq, and these are policies that we are going to keep in place."

"On May 15 2001, Powell went further and said that Saddam Hussein had not been able to "build his military back up or to develop weapons of mass destruction" for "the last 10 years". America, he said, had been successful in keeping him "in a box"

"Condoleeza Rice 2001:
"Saddam does not control the northern part of the country," she said. "We are able to keep his arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt."

"Condoleeza Rice 2001:
"With regard to WMD Saddam has little or no capability"
 
Jul 7, 2002
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tadou said:
2001, 2001, 2001....all before we realized how CORRUPT France, Russia And Germany were, and how many BILLIONS they really were letting Saddam syphon off.
and the US went to war on false data, corrupt?
 
Dec 25, 2003
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So we went to war because France, Russia, and Germany were allowing Saddam to divert oil for food money? That's why we went into Iraq?

Holy shit Tadou you must be some sort of secret advisor to the president! This is some cool shit...you're a celebrity! Tadou holds an officer in the US Govt above Rice, Powell, et. al. But lemme ask you this tadou, who is higher, you, or Dick Cheney? Man I wish I was privileged to that kind of data...
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Are you ignorant or just plain vindictive? Here is your style:

You take something i say out of context, say, "This was before we knew Russia, France and Germany were illegally giving Non-food money to Saddam" -- Then you spin it out of controll into something that it doesn't even relate to -- And you top it off with your "Tadou world" segment where you relate me to all things Bush.......it really IS sad when you think about the fact that this is the only template you ever use.

By the way......"I wish I was privileged to that kind of data..." -- Thats "privy", not "privileged", you fake son of a bitch.