Brock Lesner VS JDS TUF coaches interim title fight in june

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Brock does have a decent chance of winning this fight honestly.. Have we seen Dos Santos defend takedowns? Especially from a man like Brock.. Honestly, I think Cain is the only guy who can easily stop Brock's takedowns and Brock will never beat the guy.. But if Brock can get on top of Dos Santos and stay there.. No way Dos Santos wins the fight.

To me, it was obvious Cain was gonna destroy Brock. Still not sure about this matchup.
 
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Do you assholes read or skim through posts. I NEVER said what Brock is doing is a bad thing. I just simply stated what someone would have to do to beat him. Which the videos you posted clearly shows what I was saying is true. 1. Brock doesn't have a good chin the videos proves that he was seriously hurt in both fights. 2. Brock uses his size and wrestling skills to rest and recover, again the video clearly shows that's a fact too. Again I just don't understanding all the shit talking when in essence we're all saying the same damn thing.. Brock is a big strong guy, with good wrestling skills, and a weak chin. You take one part of my post (laying) and run with it, like I didn't state the fact that Brock was big, strong, and a good wrestler. One person makes a smart ass comment then the rest of you dickriders jump in without READING the post trying to get some kind of internet cool points. LOL internet tuff guys i guess.. Here's my 1st post below now tell me what part of this post is a lie because i don't think Cain would say I was lying.
Brock does not have a good chin and he has stamina problems. Brock fights in brusts, he attacks then he lays and recover. The main reason why he has been able to win fights is because of his freakest size, strength, and wreslting skills. If you have some ok boxing skills, a ground game, and some great stamina you will KO Brock. Do not let Brock recover when you hurt him
 
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FOR WHOEVER SAID LESNAR DONT LAY AND PRAY...IM THINKING YOU MUST HAVE SOME, REAL BAD SELECTIVE MEMORY ,AND BEEN TRYING HARD AS HELL TO GET HIS FIGHT WITH HEATH HERRING OUT YOUR MEMORY... CAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE HE WENT FROM FIGHTING IN THE UFC TO DOING GAY PORN, BY THE WAY HE DRY HUMPED HEATH HERRING, FOR THREE ROUNDS FOR A DECISION. ...HE DID DROP HIM WITH A CROSS, WHICH WAS DUE TO HEAVY HANDS MORE THAN ANYTHING...CAUSE IT WAS A UGLY LOOKING PUSH PUNCH...

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT HIS RECORD AND OPPONENTS...HIM BEING RANKED AS THE NUMBER 1 HEAVY IN THE WORLD, WAS ALL THE UFC'S MARKETING AND HYPE.
AND TO BE FAIR, YES HE IS STILL A FAIRLY INEXPERIENCED FIGHTER...BUT HE AINT A YOUNG MAN EITHER...
IN ALL HONESTY THOUGH DOS SANTOS HAS BEATEN BETTER FIGHTERS...WERDUM,NELSON,GONZAGA,CROCOP,AND YVEL. AND THE ONLY ONE HE DIDNT KNOCK OUT WAS BIG COUNTRY.

BUT NOTHINGS FOR SURE TIL IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE.
 
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WXS STOMP3R said:
FOR WHOEVER SAID LESNAR DONT LAY AND PRAY...IM THINKING YOU MUST HAVE SOME, REAL BAD SELECTIVE MEMORY ,AND BEEN TRYING HARD AS HELL TO GET HIS FIGHT WITH HEATH HERRING OUT YOUR MEMORY... CAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE HE WENT FROM FIGHTING IN THE UFC TO DOING GAY PORN, BY THE WAY HE DRY HUMPED HEATH HERRING, FOR THREE ROUNDS FOR A DECISION. ...HE DID DROP HIM WITH A CROSS, WHICH WAS DUE TO HEAVY HANDS MORE THAN ANYTHING...CAUSE IT WAS A UGLY LOOKING PUSH PUNCH...

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT HIS RECORD AND OPPONENTS...HIM BEING RANKED AS THE NUMBER 1 HEAVY IN THE WORLD, WAS ALL THE UFC'S MARKETING AND HYPE.
AND TO BE FAIR, YES HE IS STILL A FAIRLY INEXPERIENCED FIGHTER...BUT HE AINT A YOUNG MAN EITHER...
IN ALL HONESTY THOUGH DOS SANTOS HAS BEATEN BETTER FIGHTERS...WERDUM,NELSON,GONZAGA,CROCOP,AND YVEL. AND THE ONLY ONE HE DIDNT KNOCK OUT WAS BIG COUNTRY.

BUT NOTHINGS FOR SURE TIL IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE.
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ok you are infact right about that herring fight but that was he just wanted his 1st win in the octagon sealed and you could see that. ever since then he tries to finish every guy. and yeah he's a mature dude thats inexperienced and if anything thats a disadvantage to him because by the time he's past his prime he'll still be learning basics on some stand up and submissions. i dont like or dislike brock but for anyone to say he lay and prays when he fights just dont know what there watching.
 
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HE AINT GONNA WANT DOS SANTOS LAYING THEM GLOVES ON HIM...BEST BELIEVE IF HE GETS DOSED BY DOS SANTOS HANDS, HE GONNA GO FOR THE TAKE DOWN AND IF HE CANT FIND A SUB, HE'LL BLANKET HIM. I DONT SEE ANY OTHER WAY FOR HIM TO WIN.

ANY TRUE STRIKER AND BOXER KNOWS BROCK DOESNT HAVE THE MENTALITY OR THE CHIN TO TAKE HITS...
WHEN CARWIN HIT HIM, HE TURNED HIS HEAD AND DIDNT TRY TO COUNTER...AND OF COURSE WE SEEN WHAT HAPPENED WHEN CAIN DROPPED THE DOGS...DOS SANTOS GOT BETTER BOXING THEN CAIN AND CARWIN...BUT OF COURSE HIS WRESTLING IS A QUESTION...BUT AFTER SEEING HIS FIGHT WITH BIG COUNTRY...I THINK HE GOTS ENOUGH TD DEFENSE TO MANAGE...
 
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I wouldn't call getting on top of someone and pounding their face in, laying and praying.


Brock isn't looking to just control from the top, he's looking to finish from the top. Huge difference between someone who is just trying to keep the dominant position, and someone who is trying to get in position to crush your face.
 
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Read my whole post and then you will understand. Not once have I said Brock doesn't have skills. So why are you still talking about laying on top of someone? The other two dumbasses tried to make a big deal about a true fact. Brock has a weak chin and uses his wrestling to rest and recover. True or false??
 
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bigface said:
Read my whole post and then you will understand. Not once have I said Brock doesn't have skills. So why are you still talking about laying on top of someone? The other two dumbasses tried to make a big deal about a true fact. Brock has a weak chin and uses his wrestling to rest and recover. True or false??
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What the feezy?


I was simply addressing the statement that Brock lays & prays, which I don't think is true, at all. He's not a grinder, he's a finisher.

4 of 5 of his wins were by way of stoppage. 80% finish rate.

Show me a fighter who lays & prays who finishes 80% of their fights.
 
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Again WHO said that all he does is lay a pray? I'm telling you people just do not read at all anymore. I've never said that all Brock does is lay and pray. All I said is that Brock has a weak chin.
 
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The part I was referring to is that I do not believe that when he is on top of someone, it is for recovering (the huge majority of the time) and that he has stamina problems like you mentioned because I do not believe stamina is an issue for him. The LnP was referring to WXS. He did a lot of wrestling in the hearing fight but that is the only fight he did anything like that, I do feel that if he gets on top of JDS he can finish him and I don't think anyone will disagree that Brock's chin is his biggest problem.
 
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The part I was referring to is that I do not believe that when he is on top of someone, it is for recovering (the huge majority of the time) and that he has stamina problems like you mentioned because I do not believe stamina is an issue for him. The LnP was referring to WXS. He did a lot of wrestling in the hearing fight but that is the only fight he did anything like that, I do feel that if he gets on top of JDS he can finish him and I don't think anyone will disagree that Brock's chin is his biggest problem.
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THATS THE THING THOUGH, IF HE CANT GET A SUB AND HE CANT STRIKE ON THE GROUND HE'S NOT GONNA HAVE A CHOICE AND IS GONNA HAVE TO SMOTHER HIM. POINT TAKEN IN THE HERRING FIGHT...EITHER WAY WE'LL SEE SHOULD BE GOOD.
 
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$migg Can't Rap shut your bitch ass up. I'm sick of your corny ass already miss with your fuck boy shit.. Some might find you funny I think you're a Fucking corny ass dick rider..
 
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WXS STOMP3R said:
HE AINT GONNA WANT DOS SANTOS LAYING THEM GLOVES ON HIM...BEST BELIEVE IF HE GETS DOSED BY DOS SANTOS HANDS, HE GONNA GO FOR THE TAKE DOWN AND IF HE CANT FIND A SUB, HE'LL BLANKET HIM. I DONT SEE ANY OTHER WAY FOR HIM TO WIN.

ANY TRUE STRIKER AND BOXER KNOWS BROCK DOESNT HAVE THE MENTALITY OR THE CHIN TO TAKE HITS...
WHEN CARWIN HIT HIM, HE TURNED HIS HEAD AND DIDNT TRY TO COUNTER...AND OF COURSE WE SEEN WHAT HAPPENED WHEN CAIN DROPPED THE DOGS...DOS SANTOS GOT BETTER BOXING THEN CAIN AND CARWIN...BUT OF COURSE HIS WRESTLING IS A QUESTION...BUT AFTER SEEING HIS FIGHT WITH BIG COUNTRY...I THINK HE GOTS ENOUGH TD DEFENSE TO MANAGE...
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i mean most wrestlers do that though, they take the guy down and try to work from there and if theres nothing they can pull off then thats sux. all i'm sayin is brock only did what your talking about once and you act like he does it every time. from what i see in brock is every time he takes a guy down he manhandles them and tries his best to finish. it's very rare that he gets stood up too because he's always working when he's on the mat. i do however agree with that he cant take a punch yet. all fundamental go out the window with this guy everytime he gets hit hard enough and i think JDS will smash him in the 1st. but to say he'll lay on a dude and smother him him just to get the win is very false to me. brock gets better with every fight and even though we didnt have time to see wht he improved on in his last fight, if he takes JDS down i bet he'll look even better than he's ever looked on the floor.
 
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Also, Big Country's wrestling is nothing like Brock's.. Brock will probably be able to take this guy down at will.. Just only has to worry about getting KO'd coming in..

I'm pretty 50/50 on how i think this fight could go.. Not really sure who'll win.
 
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i mean most wrestlers do that though, they take the guy down and try to work from there and if theres nothing they can pull off then thats sux. all i'm sayin is brock only did what your talking about once and you act like he does it every time. from what i see in brock is every time he takes a guy down he manhandles them and tries his best to finish. it's very rare that he gets stood up too because he's always working when he's on the mat. i do however agree with that he cant take a punch yet. all fundamental go out the window with this guy everytime he gets hit hard enough and i think JDS will smash him in the 1st. but to say he'll lay on a dude and smother him him just to get the win is very false to me. brock gets better with every fight and even though we didnt have time to see wht he improved on in his last fight, if he takes JDS down i bet he'll look even better than he's ever looked on the floor.
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NEVER SAID THATS WHAT HE ALWAYS DOES...I JUST ASSUMED THIS FIGHT IS GONNA GO TWO WAYS...HE'S EITHER GONNA SMOTHER JDS OR HE'S GONNA GET KO'D...
 
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