Boxing schedule for the month of October

[HERESY]

He said he would go down to 160 to fight Floyd. Why would he need to go all the way down to 160 to fight GGG when GGG can easily make 168 in his sleep. makes no sense. That would be a perfect fight at 168 and no big advantages. Got Em!!

Actually it makes a lot of sense. How many times in his career has Hopkins went down in weight to fight a top tier fighter? Hopkins himself isn't a true MW and is more at home as an LW. Even the late great Steward said this and often commented on it. So there is no need for GGG to go up in weight to fight anyone. He was 159 last night no need to pack on the lbs as it wont benefit him. So if he (hopkins) could go down to fight a lmw why not keep that same weight goal and fight at the weight you dominated for ten years and fight against a true mw? What you're saying makes no sense.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Hopkins went down to 156 against Oscar. Lost 5 pounds against Pavlik and Winky.

Fight isn't going to happen though HBO vs Showtime. Not a single fight has been made since the fued.

GGG has a good plan - fight lower level guy in Monte Carlo in Feb. Fight Martin Murray after to set up mega fight with Sergio Martinez for the lineal title by end of next year. The goal is the lineal title/martinez. No need to move up yet.

Also Hopkins said he'd make 160 for ten million dollars. He didn't say he'd due it for $750,000-1,000,000.

 

[HERESY]

Hopkins went down to 156 against Oscar. Lost 5 pounds against Pavlik and Winky.

So what you're saying is Bernard, who was already fighting at MW for many years before fighting Oscar (who's first fight as a MW was against Bernard), also dropped for two catch weight fights?

Fight isn't going to happen though HBO vs Showtime. Not a single fight has been made since the fued.

Time to end the feud. People like Hopkins need to really start pushing this shit. We're being deprived of the fights that NEED to happen just because of some bullshit feud.

GGG has a good plan - fight lower level guy in Monte Carlo in Feb. Fight Martin Murray after to set up mega fight with Sergio Martinez for the lineal title by end of next year. The goal is the lineal title/martinez. No need to move up yet.

That's a good plan. He's definitely earned more fans due to last nights performance and I can see him becoming a household name. As for Sergio, I think it's time for him to hang em up but we'll see.

Also Hopkins said he'd make 160 for ten million dollars. He didn't say he'd due it for $750,000-1,000,000.

Go fight Ward for $10 million. Fuck all that friendship shit.

 

[CZAR]

Actually it makes a lot of sense. How many times in his career has Hopkins went down in weight to fight a top tier fighter? Hopkins himself isn't a true MW and is more at home as an LW. Even the late great Steward said this and often commented on it. So there is no need for GGG to go up in weight to fight anyone. He was 159 last night no need to pack on the lbs as it wont benefit him. So if he (hopkins) could go down to fight a lmw why not keep that same weight goal and fight at the weight you dominated for ten years and fight against a true mw? What you're saying makes no sense.

Dude Im not gonna go back and fourth like some of u guys do. Its a moot point because no one is gonna change peoples minds. Well just agree to disagree. I think Bernard at 160 would be super weight drained and thats why fighting Floyd makes no sense accept that it would be a huge pay day to take a ass whoopin. Fighting GGG just makes more sense that they meet in the middle. If u dont agree thats fine and well just leave it at that. Got Em!!

 

[HERESY]

Dude Im not gonna go back and fourth like some of u guys do. Its a moot point because no one is gonna change peoples minds. Well just agree to disagree. I think Bernard at 160 would be super weight drained and thats why fighting Floyd makes no sense accept that it would be a huge pay day to take a ass whoopin. Fighting GGG just makes more sense that they meet in the middle. If u dont agree thats fine and well just leave it at that. Got Em!!

Hopkins has fought at MW for over ten years. Again, Hopkins is a true LHW. GGG has never fought a LHW. No one GGG has ever fought has fought a LHW. That says a lot. There is no meeting in the middle. If you're willing to come down to 160 to fight a fuckin WW/LWW why not say fuck it and fight a true MW?

Nah I don't agree because what you're saying doesn't make any sense.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Actually Bernard was Oscar's second middleweight fight as he fought Felix Sturm at the full 160 his fight prior.

Hopkins would not get $10 million against Ward lol. $1.5 tops.

The fued does need to end but I don't see what Hopkins can do. The fued is with al haymon/golden boy execs and HBO execs. Hopkins and Schaefer have extended olive branches a couple times now for a Stevenson match but HBO rejected it.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Hopkins has fought at MW for over ten years. Again, Hopkins is a true LHW. GGG has never fought a LHW. No one GGG has ever fought has fought a LHW. That says a lot. There is no meeting in the middle. If you're willing to come down to 160 to fight a fuckin WW/LWW why not say fuck it and fight a true MW?

Nah I don't agree because what you're saying doesn't make any sense.

I dont know why it's hard for you to understand going down to 160 for over $10,000,000 in a super mega fight versus losing 15 pounds at age 49 for less than a mil or a mil tops. Everyone would do something they probably shouldn't for that kind of money. Golovkin says he'd fight at 152-154 for Mayweather (but not that low for anyone else). Roy Jones said he'd drop 25 pounds for Floyd lol.

 

[HERESY]

Actually Bernard was Oscar's second middleweight fight as he fought Felix Sturm at the full 160 his fight prior.

My bad, I was confusing Oscar with Tito, who had his first MW fight against Bernard.

Hopkins would not get $10 million against Ward lol. $1.5 tops.

And that's their fault, lol.

The fued does need to end but I don't see what Hopkins can do. The fued is with al haymon/golden boy execs and HBO execs. Hopkins and Schaefer have extended olive branches a couple times now for a Stevenson match but HBO rejected it.

Boycott HBO. This shit needs to end and I think after this month I'll cancel my HBO as a protest (even though I have a year for free.) We can't even see the fights that need to happen, CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS, because the IDIOTS of boxing, I'm talking the boxers, the promoters, the commissions, the organizations, allowed the networks to take over. We can't even have unification bouts because of this shit.

The reason why I keep citing people like BHOP is because he has some pull on the business side and because he is a fighter. A lot of these guys need to step up to the plate and get back to the sport. I know these guys gotta eat, I know they put their bodies on the line each time they step into the ring, but we can't even get the fights that need to happen because of bureaucratic bullshit.

I dont know why it's hard for you to understand going down to 160 for over $10,000,000 in a super mega fight versus losing 15 pounds at age 49 for less than a mil or a mil tops.

Once again here you go bringing up the age shit. If they can pull off the Stevenson fight is he gonna get $10 fuckin mill? No. Is he gonna all of a sudden be 48? Or maybe he'll be 46? 44 Perhaps? You can't have it both ways. I understand boxing is a business, but the reason why it's fucked up us because of the shit that you just typed. We are in the days where NETWORKS are "fighting" each other and FIGHTERS aren't.

But back to Hopkins, the man dominated the MW division for over ten years. He has 20 fuckin defenses at MW and will go in the HISTORY BOOKS because of it, yet now all of a sudden it's "he's too old" and "oh he can't do it for this amount of money?"


BULLSHIT.

Everyone would do something they probably shouldn't for that kind of money. Golovkin says he'd fight at 152-154 for Mayweather (but not that low for anyone else). Roy Jones said he'd drop 25 pounds for Floyd lol.

And this is a problem. This is exactly why the sport is fucked up.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Wrong again. Tito's first MW fight was against MW title holder Joppy whom Tito destroyed in 5 rounds.

Lol i ain't boycotting HBO obviously there are two sides to the problem and deeper than any of us realize.

I brought up Hopkins age because losing 15 pounds at age 49 is crazy. Hr last fought at MW 9 years ago. He wouldnt have to lose weight against Stevenson obviously. He knows it's crazy but for $10+ million? All of a sudden it's not that crazy any more is it? Don't act like that kind of money and mega fight isn't a massive factor.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Awesome, HBO will pick this up for sure


Kurt_Ward ‏@BoxingAsylum 27m
Golovkin - Murray rumoured for February in Europe #boxing

Kurt_Ward ‏@BoxingAsylum 13m
T @the FightSource Hatton said it's basically a done deal. Murray just needs to get past Garth Wood next month

Kurt_Ward ‏@BoxingAsylum 7m
T @the FightSource Hatton said world title fight that wouldn't be in States because of Martin's visa issues. Murray is also WBA interim holder

 

[HERESY]

Wrong again. Tito's first MW fight was against MW title holder whom Tito destroyed in 5 rounds.

Well go back to whoever it was I mentioned earlier in the thread. That's what happens when I go back and forth with you. You been pullin that snake oil shit for ten years now, makin me forget what I typed and shit.

Lol i ain't boycotting HBO obviously there are two sides to the problem and deeper than any of us realize.

I am. After this month I'm done.

I brought up Hopkins age because losing 15 pounds at age 49 is crazy. He would lose weight against Stevenson. He knows it's crazy but for $10+ million? All of a sudden it's not that crazy any more is it?

It is crazy. It's looking for the cash out instead of being true to the sport.

And Murry ain't gonna fight GGG. You can give that up.

Here's a vid of Stevens after the fight.

http://www.boxingscene.com/video-curtis-stevens-on-tko-loss-golovkin--71288

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Snake oil? Lol you said Oscar then Tito. I just corrected your error homie.

It's easy for us, who aren't fighters, to say it shouldn't be about money but it is. Especially to a guy like hopkins who put in a good 15 years or more of hard work and getting underpaid. But hopkins is no dummy he knows a floyd fight at 160 is slim to none I'm sure he has his own salesman trickery motives going on. We all know floyd isn't fighting at 160.

Well Ricky Hatton, Murray's promoter says it's basically a done deal so hopefully he's being honest.

 

[HERESY]

Snake oil? Lol you said Oscar then Tito. I just corrected your error homie.

Nah you were trying to confuse me and sidestepping the issue as usual. I got you figured out, you can't fool me, bro.

It's easy for us, who aren't fighters, to say it shouldn't be about money but it is. Especially to a guy like hopkins who put in a good 15 years or more of hard work and getting underpaid. But hopkins is no dummy he knows a floyd fight at 160 is slim to none I'm sure he has his own salesman trickery motives going on. We all know floyd isn't fighting at 160.

Listen, I already said these guys put their lives on the line each time and that that boxing is a business. I understand it. I mean look at what happened last night. A boxer goes in clean and comes out in stable condition and a coma. This is why people shouldn't just fight for the money, why we need more stoppages and why the networks shouldn't dictate shit.

My thing is this. If it's about the money say it's about the money. If not, stop talking that best for boxing bullshit. I'm tired of these guys talkin about what is best for boxing yet these guys aren't fighting the best fighters they can due to politics.

Well Ricky Hatton, Murray's promoter says it's basically a done deal so hopefully he's being honest.

I don't give a fuck what Hatton says, nigga. They ain't fightin. And it's not because Murray is scared or some shit like that. And GGG ain't scared and I think Murray is the mandatory right? I'm sayin they ain't gonna fight because of politics. Where are they could they fight? Doesn't Murray have Visa issues?

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Monte Carlo, so no visa issues there. Golovkin fought Ishida there. I think it's gonna happen.

 

[battle619]

Why is everybody talking shit about HBO when they get the highest ratings for boxing matches?

 

[bigface]

GGG is overrated and overhyped. Slow as hell, loads up on every punch, can't fight backing up, defense is piss poor, has no inside fighting game at all, was tired by the 6th round, and he can't hit a moving target. This guy is getting hyped up for KO'ing espn level fighters. It's comedy how people act like this guy is elite. Then the same people have the nervous to call Broner overrated. Broner is 23 yrs old and a 3 division champion, Broner actually KO'ed #1 rated Demarco, moved up 12lbs and beat Paulie for his 147 belt. But on the siccness Broner is overrated. Lol.

Meanwhile you have a 31 yr old GGG, a career 160lber with 28 fights that never even fought a top 5 rated 160lber, won a vacant belt, and now is having a hard time knocking out 5'7 espn level fighters. You so called fans where crying about Broner beating up everyone at 135lb, he had to move up when Burns and Vasquez was ducking him. But the same fans have no problem with GGG staying at 160lb fighting 4 bums a year. Why don't the same fans cry about GGG moving up only 8 lbs to fight Ward or Froch. Double standards at their finest. Hey but just like I told everyone Donaire was a overrated hypejob GGG will be forced to fight someone actually good and he will be EXPOSED too. I will laugh when people start putting this guy on the top P4P list for knocking out espn bums. Quillin jab and left hook will be in GGG face all night, Quillin is not a 5'7 midget. Martinez will box circles around him if his knee can hold up.

Please stop this bullshit hype for a guy that fights nothing but bums. KO a good fighter and earn your hype. Move up and fight the P4P #2 in Ward. But I forgot only Mayweather and Broner has to move up and challenge themselves on the siccness.

 

[WYNO707X4]

GGG is better than broner so far..dont forget de leon beat his ass and he barely handled feather fist paulie.. broner also ducked 140 div when it was hot fire...GGG beats quillin and him vs sergio would be good..

 

[Gh0Zt]

GGG is overrated and overhyped. Slow as hell, loads up on every punch, can't fight backing up, defense is piss poor, has no inside fighting game at all, was tired by the 6th round, and he can't hit a moving target. This guy is getting hyped up for KO'ing espn level fighters. It's comedy how people act like this guy is elite. Then the same people have the nervous to call Broner overrated. Broner is 23 yrs old and a 3 division champion, Broner actually KO'ed #1 rated Demarco, moved up 12lbs and beat Paulie for his 147 belt. But on the siccness Broner is overrated. Lol.

Meanwhile you have a 31 yr old GGG, a career 160lber with 28 fights that never even fought a top 5 rated 160lber, won a vacant belt, and now is having a hard time knocking out 5'7 espn level fighters. You so called fans where crying about Broner beating up everyone at 135lb, he had to move up when Burns and Vasquez was ducking him. But the same fans have no problem with GGG staying at 160lb fighting 4 bums a year. Why don't the same fans cry about GGG moving up only 8 lbs to fight Ward or Froch. Double standards at their finest. Hey but just like I told everyone Donaire was a overrated hypejob GGG will be forced to fight someone actually good and he will be EXPOSED too. I will laugh when people start putting this guy on the top P4P list for knocking out espn bums. Quillin jab and left hook will be in GGG face all night, Quillin is not a 5'7 midget. Martinez will box circles around him if his knee can hold up.

Please stop this bullshit hype for a guy that fights nothing but bums. KO a good fighter and earn your hype. Move up and fight the P4P #2 in Ward. But I forgot only Mayweather and Broner has to move up and challenge themselves on the siccness.

What is this fuckery?

GGG got that stupid power that has dudes wondering why they got into boxing as a profession after 1 round. Got corners throwing towels and shit LOL

Broner has.....his dick on instagram? Got outboxed by paulie malignaggi who barely even trains for fights nowadays? LOL When the commentators have to go into depth to explain your case (See....."Broners shots had more meaning...even though he got outlanded in almost every round.....he looked meaner while throwing them")

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Lol funniest post in awhile. We all know if Golovkin was named, Tyrone Smith from Detroit bigclit would be on his jock.

GGG is an accurate puncher. Very intelligent pressure fighter. Has power in both hands and attacks head and body.

Hasn't fought the top guys? Not his fault. Sergio, Chavez turned him down. Geale was stripped a belt rather than fighting GGG. Sturm ducked him for two years. Ndam didn't show up to a purse bid Three times, losing his intern belt. Pirog got injured and pulled out. Peter Quillin, before the network fued, turned down a title shot against GGG and said he wanted GGG to build his name (Quillin meanwhile has never headlined a show lol). Murray had visa issues.

We do know GGG was 345-5 as an amateur, he beat all the top guys with every style (andre dirrell, lucien bute, Geale, Lee, the top Russians and Ukranians, he beat them all. Slick fighters, power punchers, etc etc. The man is extremely experienced and is a very smart fighter. He cuts off the ring with perfection, has a beastly stiff jab, sets up his shots and is patient, never gets out of control. What more can u ask for. He's a beast. Hopefully Murray steps up next who many think should be the lineal champ.

 

[Johnny Truelove]

broner vs garcia on the undercard of mayweathers next fight