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Well you know how I feel about Wlad. I know people hate him now, but I think when all is said is done Wlad will be remembered favorably throughout history. To me, what he's doing is insanely impressive. What you saw last night is basically what the heavyweight division would be if he wasn't around. Everyone would be saying it's exciting and competitive, but instead everyone is considered a scrub because Wlad sends them on their way.
I like Wilder and I found it extra impressive what he did through the Olympics with little amateur experience to come through and medal. He has a good story, seems like a good guy and is easy to root for. Although I haven't seen it because I don't think the fight was recorded he was dropped by Harold Sconiers who isn't anything special and I've seen him flattened in the amateurs (granted he had limited experience then).
I like Wilder and I found it extra impressive what he did through the Olympics with little amateur experience to come through and medal. He has a good story, seems like a good guy and is easy to root for. Although I haven't seen it because I don't think the fight was recorded he was dropped by Harold Sconiers who isn't anything special and I've seen him flattened in the amateurs (granted he had limited experience then).
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Yes, Wlad looks so good because the rest of the division is shit. I mean you see his last fight? What an embarrassing opponent. And his wrestling match prior against Alexander Povetkin I literally wanted to stab my eyeballs with a fork while watching that abortion of a fight, holy fuck he should have literally changed his name to Grabimir Clinchko after that bout. I think he set s CompuClinch record.
This is why I hope Wilder is the real deal - someone as big as Wlad and in just as good of shape. I'd much rather have Deontay dethrone Wlad and pump some excitement back into the division than another 5+ years of Klitschko domination that occurs in Germany.
Some of that stuff might just be learning experience. I think the video of Wilder stopped in the amateurs was like his 7th amateur fight in his life? Being dropped by a bum early in ur pro's has happened to plenty of guys. Of course it's concerning as well and doesn't suggest he had an iron chin! But I still dream!
This is why I hope Wilder is the real deal - someone as big as Wlad and in just as good of shape. I'd much rather have Deontay dethrone Wlad and pump some excitement back into the division than another 5+ years of Klitschko domination that occurs in Germany.
Some of that stuff might just be learning experience. I think the video of Wilder stopped in the amateurs was like his 7th amateur fight in his life? Being dropped by a bum early in ur pro's has happened to plenty of guys. Of course it's concerning as well and doesn't suggest he had an iron chin! But I still dream!
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I'm not saying the heavyweight division is a murderer's row but Wlad makes it look especially weak and he's fought everyone he's needed to fight in it. Larry Holmes was dismissed for the same reasons, he beat an old Ali and.... Gerry Cooney? Leon Spinks? Berbick? If you asked people back then they'd laugh in your face about him being in the top of all time heavyweights, but it's commonplace to see him on those lists these day. Years from now Wlad will be remembered favorably.
There's something to be said for sustained divisional dominance.
There's something to be said for sustained divisional dominance.
I think Wlad will be remembered favorably as well, but like Larry Holmes the division got exciting again after he was dethroned too.
But it's even worse with Klitschko. They aired his last fight on ESPN live and like 20 people watched lol. I know his ratings in Germany are astronomical, but I don't care about Germany!
But it's even worse with Klitschko. They aired his last fight on ESPN live and like 20 people watched lol. I know his ratings in Germany are astronomical, but I don't care about Germany!
Sorry to chime in, but I think Wlad will be remembered well, but people will still give the edge to his brother as to who was the better fighter even though Wlad's resume is better.
After some time has passed, I don't think Lewis's record was any better than Wlad's at this point other than being able to get the best of Vitali even though it was close at the time of the stoppage. I think Lewis was an incredible fighter but not assertive enough for a HW with the vaunted power he had, especially in that right hand. He should've been ko'ing dudes like he did Rahman in that 2nd fight.
I wanted Arreola to win, I just didn't think he would. I'm hoping Wilder goes on to be a great champ. At least he fights with a killer instinct. I think people would like Wlad more if he wasn't so tentative. People loved Tyson because he was coming after your heart every fight there for a long time. That's what people want in a HW. Like Marciano said, "why waltz with a man for 10 rounds if I can knock him out in one."
After some time has passed, I don't think Lewis's record was any better than Wlad's at this point other than being able to get the best of Vitali even though it was close at the time of the stoppage. I think Lewis was an incredible fighter but not assertive enough for a HW with the vaunted power he had, especially in that right hand. He should've been ko'ing dudes like he did Rahman in that 2nd fight.
I wanted Arreola to win, I just didn't think he would. I'm hoping Wilder goes on to be a great champ. At least he fights with a killer instinct. I think people would like Wlad more if he wasn't so tentative. People loved Tyson because he was coming after your heart every fight there for a long time. That's what people want in a HW. Like Marciano said, "why waltz with a man for 10 rounds if I can knock him out in one."
Lewis's resume was waaay better than Klitschko. Holyfield, Mike Tyson, David Tua, Vitali, Ray Mercer, Tommy Morrison, Michael Grant (when he was undefeated), Shannon Briggs, Golota, etc. It's a better resume than both Klitschko's combined tbh.
I don't even know who Wlads best win is, Chris Byrd? Sam Peter? David Haye? Think that's about it as far as solid wins. Of course it's not his fault the division sucks, just sayin.
I don't even know who Wlads best win is, Chris Byrd? Sam Peter? David Haye? Think that's about it as far as solid wins. Of course it's not his fault the division sucks, just sayin.
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I've thought about this a lot and I used to say the same thing y'all were saying, but Tyson was completely shot out by then. Holyfield was way past his prime and would've been toasted by Wlad or Vitali as well because of the size in my opinion. I feel like Grant, Mercer and Klitschko were his best wins.
The other thing to consider is, those other dudes built their names before Lewis came up. If Lewis had been on top before those guys came up and he destroyed or completely outclassed them like Wlad is doing and the guys are landing 10 punches in the entire fight, we'd be talking about his resume the same way. Yes, I understand that these are all if's, but I don't think Wlad gets the credit for that right now. He's embarrassing every challenger and has been since Sam Peter knocked him down 3 times, and he still won.
The other thing to consider is, those other dudes built their names before Lewis came up. If Lewis had been on top before those guys came up and he destroyed or completely outclassed them like Wlad is doing and the guys are landing 10 punches in the entire fight, we'd be talking about his resume the same way. Yes, I understand that these are all if's, but I don't think Wlad gets the credit for that right now. He's embarrassing every challenger and has been since Sam Peter knocked him down 3 times, and he still won.
Yeah man Holyfield was coming off wins over Mike Tyson and Michael Moorer. That's a legit win for Lewis. I agree Tyson was past it. Don't forget David Tue either, he was prime and had only once lost and that was to Ike. Basically just those two names alone are better than everything Klitschko has done.
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I forgot that Holyfield beat Moorer as soundly as he did. The Holyfield/Tyson fights were a joke in retrospect. Tyson was way past his prime and in the midst of his psychosis. Tua was good, but never won a title. Also lost to Chris Byrd, who was outclassed once, then obliterated a 2nd time by Klitschko. Holyfield went 2-5-2 in that 8 fight stretch including the fights with Lewis, even though the draw with him was b.s.
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Jim Ross has a new blog on jrsbarbq.com where he talked about doing some boxing commentary on Memorial Day:
"Very grateful to Fox Sports and Golden Boy PromotionsAd by websave for extending me the opportunity to jump back on some play by playAd by websave for their Memorial Day night boxing from Ft. BlissAd by websave, Texas that will be broadcast live on Fox Sports 1. My old pal Mauro Ranallo will "coachAd by websave me up" and I will be ready to rock the Monday night away.
I've been a lifelong boxing fan so this will be a big thrill for me to be able to stick my toe in new water. I hope that you will check it out and I will have more info on the special night in the next few days. My late father was a HUGE boxing fan and I know that he would be so proud of me which makes the whole process a winAd by websave before I even fly to El Paso."
