Boxing pound 4 pound top 10

[2-0-Sixx]

The Ring has updated their top ten. No surprise Mayweather is now listed.

1). Manny Pacquiao
49-3-2 (37 KOs)

2). Floyd Mayweather Jr.
40-0-0 (25 KOs)

3). Shane Mosley
46-5-0 (39 KOs)

4). Bernard Hopkins
49-5-1 (32 KOs)

5). Juan Manuel Marquez
50-5-1 (37 KOs)

6). Israel Vazquez
43-4-0 (31 KOs)

7). Rafael Marquez
38-5-0 (34 KOs)

8). Nonito Donaire
22-1-0 (14 KOs)

9). Miguel Cotto
34-1-0 (27 KOs)

10). Celestino Caballero
33-2-0 (23 KOs)

 

[2-0-Sixx]

cant say I agree with this.

Mine would look somethin like this:
1. Pacquiao
2. Mayweather
3. Hopkins
4. JM Marquez
5. Shane Mosley
6. Paul Williams
7. Cotto
8. Vazquez
9. R. Marquez
10. Donaire

 

[localstar907]

Im running with mayweather for #1 because he is still undefeated and but I would pick hopkins over all them cats dude is a beast and so is cotto.... Marquez doesn't even belong on the list after his performance he gave last weekend

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Get Donaire out of there.
Still no love for Europe...

 

[MR. CLEEN]

My top 5 would be:

1. Mayweather
2. Hopkins
3. Mosley
4. Pacquiao
5. Williams

Can we give Clottey love at 6? And I'll put Marquez at 7

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Get Donaire out of there.
Still no love for Europe...

what eruo bum deserves to be top 10???

 

[MOREBASS]

Im running with mayweather for #1 because he is still undefeated and but I would pick hopkins over all them cats dude is a beast and so is cotto.... Marquez doesn't even belong on the list after his performance he gave last weekend

Yeah, being undefeated is impressive, but IMO, level of opposition faced, and defeated is a much better indication of a fighter's worth.

And Marquez definitely still belongs on that list, there is no shame in losing to a guy who fights two divisions above you, and one of the greatest fighters of our era.

 

[deep6cixxx6]

My top 5 would be:

1. Mayweather
2. Hopkins
3. Mosley
4. Pacquiao
5. Williams

Can we give Clottey love at 6?

really? pacquiao at 4?

 

[2-0-Sixx]

^^I do believe that's borderline haterism!

 

[SC_408]

2-0 Sixx how would u rank the top 5 for the 90's era? how would u rank tyson.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Abraham, Kessler, Vitali or Wladimir deserve a spot more than Donaire does. Rafael Marquez and Israel Vazquez? Those guys just got cleared to fight again and they are fighting tune ups.

One of the 4 Euro's I mentioned should easily replace 1 of the 3 I just mentioned.

 

[MR. CLEEN]

Boderline haterism??? Not at all. Pacman gets the number 1 rating for beating a completely depleted and dried out De La Hoya? Seriously??? He knocked out Hatton. Ok, so you're telling me both De La Hoya and Hatton are so highly rated that beating them puts you in the #1 slot? Pacman is a good fighter, but far from the number 1 or 2 fighter. Take a look at who I have in front of him, and seriously tell me if he really ranks above them.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Abraham, Kessler, Vitali or Wladimir deserve a spot more than Donaire does. Rafael Marquez and Israel Vazquez? Those guys just got cleared to fight again and they are fighting tune ups.

One of the 4 Euro's I mentioned should easily replace 1 of the 3 I just mentioned.

Pound 4 pound rankings exclude heavyweights, so that takes care of the Klits.

Abraham = hasn't beaten an elite fighter. His best win is Edison Miranda.

Kessler = has beat some decent opponents but no elites, also his inactivity (shitty promoter, legal problems, etc.) for a stretch of time and fighting bums didn't help. That can change depending on how the Super Six turns out.

You can make a case for Vazquez/Marquez though because of their inactivity, although I would quickly insert Williams & Chad Dawson.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Boderline haterism??? Not at all. Pacman gets the number 1 rating for beating a completely depleted and dried out De La Hoya? Seriously???

No, he was pound 4 pound #1 BEFORE beating Oscar. Pacquiao was #2 when Floyd retired (and he definitely deserved that #2 spot based on beating Marquez, Barrera, Erik Morales, etc.). Pac moved up by default and he definitely proved his worth after dominated diaz, oscar, hatton, in three different weight classes in three fights.

He knocked out Hatton. Ok, so you're telling me both De La Hoya and Hatton are so highly rated that beating them puts you in the #1 slot? Pacman is a good fighter, but far from the number 1 or 2 fighter. Take a look at who I have in front of him, and seriously tell me if he really ranks above them.

See above (he was #1 prior to those fights).

Further, the man was fighting at 130 pounds in 2008. Pacquiao is the very definition of pound 4 pound as he keeps going up in weight and he keeps dominating. You need to factor that in as well. He's one belts in 7 weight classes.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

2-0 Sixx how would u rank the top 5 for the 90's era? how would u rank tyson.

shit, that's a tough one.

Pernell Whitaker
Roy Jones Jr.
Oscar de la hoya
Shane Mosley
Trinidad

I'm sure I'm leaving a couple out.

I don't know how to rank Tyson in the 90's since he lost to Buster douglas in 1990 then was in prison 'till 1995 and lost to Holyfield in '96 and '97. Tyson was just never the same as he was pre-prison.

 

[MR. CLEEN]

If Pacman is going up to 147, then fight a real welterweight and not DLH crippled by the weight loss, because if you truly call that him going up in weight, your only fooling your self. If he pulls off the upset over Cotto, then I'll respect it more. And Mayweather too was a former lightweight who went up so factor that in if you want to give Pacman props for the same thing... Especially since he beat DLH at light middleweight. 130 all the way up to 154. Let's see Pacman do that then we can talk about p4p

 

[2-0-Sixx]

when have I not given Mayweather props? Mayweather was #1 but he retired for 2 years. One fight doesn't make you #1 unless that one fight is against the current #1.

Also, floyd started his career at 130 pounds Pacman started his at 106 pounds. There is a difference.

In addition, Mayweather was #1 pound 4 pound before he started fighting at 147 pounds, he was at 140 when he became #1 (Bernard Hopkins was pound 4 pound #1 then lost to Jermain Taylor which bumped Money to #1). Sorry if that didn't make sense.

 

[Tony]

My list would go:

Mayweather
Pacman
Cotto
Clottey
Hopkins
Sugar Shane

 

[MR. CLEEN]

Never said you knock Mayweather. I just put my personal top 5 up, and gave you my reasoning to why Pac aint my top fighter. No hate involved

 

[2-0-Sixx]

well I'm just sayin you have Pac at #4 or #5. It would be one thing to have Mayweather at #1 and Pac #2, but #4?? I don't know that seems absurd imo. But at the end of the day its just a mythical list anyway