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Mayweather Sr. going in on Broner, hes to funny

"Adrien Broner looked like a bum"

Floyd Mayweather Sr., father and trainer of WBC/WBO/WBA welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr., was very disappointed with Adrien Broner's performance on Saturday night.

Broner was dominated over twelve rounds by Shawn Porter, who picked up a unanimous decision victory at the MGM Grand.

Mayweather Sr. had picked Broner to win the fight.

For Saturday's fight, Broner held his camp at the Mayweather Boxing Club. There were questions raised about Broner's dedication during training camp.

"I'll be honest with you, I voted for Broner. I was thinking Broner was going to win. You cant keep making excuses for people. You can't keep making excuses. if he knows that there is something that he didn't do right, he knows right from wrong. If he did it wrong and got his ass whopped, that's what is supposed to happen," Mayweather Sr. told BoxingScene.com.

"He's not no top ranked fighter, in the rankings. He held all night. Broner looked like nothing. All that grabbing and holding. With all that stuff he does...the women...the drinking...all that stuff. He's not going to do nothing. He looked like a bum. First, he needs to learn how to fight. If he wants to learn how to fight, he needs to come see me - or else forget it, done. My whole saying is, it's my way or the highway and no other way.

"All the things Broner was saying, none of it was true. Don't get me wrong, I see where he's got ability, but with all the sh*t with these girls and drinking, he's never going to get nowhere."
 
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Actually Sr is acknowledging that Broner needs a new trainer and thats why he said come see me so he can learn how to fight. He has the ability as he said but his trainer is wack and theres no accountability either. Got Em!!
 
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Taking the loss well? Porter just out pointed him. Broner couldve easily beat Porter with a better trainer and being more active. Remember he dropped Porter with a vicious left hook. Why would he take this loss bad? Now the Maidana fight was a different story. Got Em!!
 
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Taking the loss well? Porter just out pointed him. Broner couldve easily beat Porter with a better trainer and being more active. Remember he dropped Porter with a vicious left hook. Why would he take this loss bad? Now the Maidana fight was a different story. Got Em!!
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Lol sure. He got beat handedly by Porter, the last round knockdown was the only thing he did right all fight. He was so desperate he resorted to blatant fouls the entire fight.

Broner is about to be a gatekeeper, officially Andre Berto status.
 
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Adrien Broner: A tale of unworthy superstar
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broner70By BR: As a fan of boxing as a whole, I was outraged at the performance by Adrien Broner (30-2, 22 KOs). A man with such talent and skills, but performs horribly every time that the level of competition is increased. Then I suddenly thought to myself, are the fans and myself caught in the midst of his “big talk” rather than his skills.

Is Adrien Broner a superstar, or a fighter who sounds like he’s worthy but simply mediocre?

Broner’s fight with Daniel Ponce De Leon was a first look at his troubles, then a 12 round fight with Paulie Malignaggi, a massacre by Marcos Maidana, a battle with Emmanuel Taylor and finally a one-sided affair with Shawn Porter last Saturday night in Las Vegas, Nevada. AB [Adrien Broner], is the most entertaining boxer we’ve seen in the past couple years, but what else does he bring to the table. With bad footwork and a very hesitant offence, backed up by a miserable defense, can one put him at the top of the pedestal? Could you imagine a prime Manny Pacquiao against Broner? It would be an annihilation. I for see the young man fixated on a success lead by association with none other than Floyd Mayweather Jr., yet he forget the hard work put in by a Mayweather, Pacquiao, Bernard Hopkins and etc. The sad reality is Mayweather laughs with the young boxer instead of giving him tough love, while Mayweather stays undefeated and he hops off of the Broner train and now joins the Errol Spence Jr train.

Secondly, another issues is Broner’s incapability to choose a division to commit to and reign. He is not strong enough to win at 147 period. He faced a Maidana and a Porter in a 2 year span and looked poor in both attempts. His arrogance and his weak team fail to help lead this man in the right direction. The problem comes from his teams not having a loud presence, while Broner is the loudest voice of his team. Broner needs any trainer besides Mike Stafford, because he is given too much freedom. He feels as if he is 40-0 (40 K0) fighter on the top p4p list, while now his whilst the street as a scrub.

To conclude, the quote “Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn’t work hard” was in full effect this weekend. Team Porter showed their desire to stay in shape and be ready to fight to their fullest abilities while Broner did his usual antics to shrug off stress and pressure. This young man is serious hot waters if he does not decide to change his game, because time is ticking and boxing is sports of quick disregards, and when the fans do not seek from you, you will be destroyed.
 
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The Adrien Broner Show: From the Clown Prince of Boxing to a Mere Clown
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Two years ago, some of the top minds in boxing considered Adrien Broner, then an undefeated rising star, among a handful on the short list of Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s heirs apparent. He wasn't just any rising star—Broner was thought to be one of the men capable of leading boxing into the future.

It was a rise to fame based on his bigger-than-life persona. A natural promoter, Broner's brash attitude made him popular everywhere he traveled in the world of new media. Whether it was a fake wedding proposal, reported strip-club shenanigans or his very own alleged sex tape, Broner was leading boxing's charge into the new millennium.

Since he's become famous in truth and rich enough to literally flush money (Warning: NSFW language) down the toilet, Broner nearly lost a decision to a fading Paulie Malignaggi, was blown out of the water by Marcos Maidana and lost overwhelmingly Saturday night to Shawn Porter.

Broner's (30-2) brilliance nearly saved him in the 12th and final round at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. Trailing the relentless Porter (26-1-1) on the scorecards, he needed his prayers of desperation to be answered—and they almost were.

Broner's left hook landed squarely on Porter's face. It was the kind of punch that boxers dream about, the kind capable of sending Porter, a man who has never hit the mat, down to the canvas.

"Broner did what champions do," boxing Hall of Famer-turned-NBC announcer "Sugar" Ray Leonard said. "You can never count a champion out."

We saw Broner's potential flare up in his most desperate hour. He reminded fans, once again, what he might be able to do if he truly put his mind to it.

But it was not, it turned out, enough. Round by Round Boxing provided the fighters' punch stats:

After he wiped the surprise look off his face, Porter gathered himself and finished out the round. Eventually, he even reverted back to being the aggressor. Even with his professional hopes hanging in the balance, Broner seemed too cool to care.

Despite the defeat, that performance makes Broner the story. What if he had opened up earlier? What if he had sat down on his punches? What if he trained a little harder? What if he watched a little more tape?

While we don't yet know whether he can turn it around, the once-rising star appears to be falling back to earth at alarming speeds. Even at 25, he seems to be beyond hope, the classic case of too much being given to a developing fighter way too soon.

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Broner had no answer for Maidana.

Broner's incredible persona made up for enormous flaws in his game. You can see those cracks in the armor as far back as his appearance on ShoBox: The New Generation against Fernando Quintero in 2009, way before they became fault lines against Maidana and Porter. Broner can be backed up, he doesn't have a particularly stout shoulder-roll defense, and most importantly, he can be out-thrown and out-landed.

The problem isn't that Broner lost a fight to a great competitor; it's the way he lost. Against the real thing in Porter, Broner simply let too many rounds go. He refused to punch or fight. Instead, he chose to run and hold.

Broner wasn't just a loser—he was a loser who looked bad. Worse, he was a loser who looked boring.

Network television has taken away some of Broner's prodigious self-expression. No one expected he'd look so lost without his obscenity-laced high jinks. What's left is a safety-first boxer, a Broner who isn't capable of entertaining us—inside the ring or out.

In truth, Broner isn't made for network TV. He's too brash, too outspoken, too bold, too vulgar, too everything for the kind of viewers who might accidentally stumble upon NBC's boxing programming.

Broner is for cable, for the Internet, for short videos streaming to our cellphones and tablets and for the streets. In short, for every place but where he is right now.

"I'm OK. My kids OK. I'm financially fine. It's OK," a sneering Broner said after the fight on the broadcast. "At the end of the day, everybody in here will take my autograph and take a picture with me."

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It was classic Broner bravado, albeit a bit hollow after his dismal showing against Porter. It's one thing to be flippant and sharp-tongued when you're winning fights. Winners write their own rules. When you try to pull off the same attitude after coming up short, fans aren't nearly so accommodating.

It's unclear what's next for Broner. His two appearances in prime time on NBC show what high hopes Premier Boxing Champions and promoter Al Haymon had for the young star. After an unimpressive win and an even less impressive loss, it's time to rebuild—both in the ring and beyond.

For the first time, one of Haymon's chosen few have fallen short. He now faces his sternest test yet as boxing's new creative force: figuring out how to redeem the clown prince who looks more and more like a mere clown.
 
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No real surprise here. What's funny is there is no current mandatory with IBF. Might be first time ever the promoter requested the org to setup a mandatory defense over a far more lucrative fight. Lemieux vs N'dam was for the vacant title, they were the highest ranked fighters available this the reason each got the fight, so who would the mandatory be?


#3 Saunders is fighting Lee for the WBO
#5 Soliman is fighting unranked Wade this Friday and going to lose badly
#6 Mora is fighting Jacobs for the WBA


Joke excuse by Gomez.



Lemieux's Next Stop: Mandatory Defense, Not Golovkin


By Steve Kim

So what's next for newly minted IBF middlweight champion, David Lemieux, after his rousing win over Hassan N'Dam in Montreal this past weekend?

It looks like his IBF mandatory.

Eric Gomez, Vice President and matchmaker for Golden Boy Promotions, explained to BoxingScene.com - "We got the letter already (from the IBF). He's going to have a mandatory. When you win a vacant title you have to do a mandatory next. So we'll see what happens there.

"He's going to take a break, he's going to go on vacation for a little bit and then we're going to sit down and talk with him and see what's next. It was a great victory and I think he deserves a little rest."

Coming into this past weekend, N'Dam was rated number one by the IBF and Lemieux was fourth. Number two is 'not rated' and Billy Joe Saunders - slated to face Andy Lee in September for the WBO belt - is fourth. At number five is veteran Sam Soliman, who previously held this title.

As for a possible showdown with WBA, IBO and WBC interim champion Gennady Golovkin, Gomez stated:

"We've discussed it and I talked to Tom Loeffler( managing director of K2 Promotions) and I know he's interested. Look, (Lemiuex's) willing to fight anybody and it's just a matter of making the best move and figuring out what's next and figuring out the situation with the IBF."
 
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floyd got these boys in a fenzy on twitter

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Been getting a lot of calls about this Mayweather interview. Understand something people don't believe or run with any until the ink dries
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Some say this fight should of happened a long time ago before the Ortiz fight... But God put me through a serious roller coaster smh
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But I made it through.. Iam older, Iam wiser, Iam hungrier it may be my time. If it happens coo if not we're good man gonna keep it pushing
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He is a great fighter but he balls his fist up just like I do. I DONT CARE about anything else lock in with me.. U gonna have to see me.
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But we'll see what happens but stop jumping the gun.. Floyd does what he wants when he wants. He has a lot of options on the table so do we
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Lol sure. He got beat handedly by Porter, the last round knockdown was the only thing he did right all fight. He was so desperate he resorted to blatant fouls the entire fight.

Broner is about to be a gatekeeper, officially Andre Berto status.
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You don't remember me calling him Andre Berto 2.0, Adrien Berto and Andre Broner? This guy, at 25, is a wash. Broner has severe character flaws and it doesn't matter who trains him, he's still gonna do the type of shit he does.
 
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