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if dlh vs. pacman happens,dlh will go down as the biggest pussy in boxing history.nobody,not even the diehard mex/american dlh fans are gonna back him up on this one.

he should be trynna fight cotto atleast couse everyone knows he dont want none of the tijuana tornado.maybe even winky or a pbf rematch.he has other options if he wants to go outta the game with a lil respect.
 
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felt bad for Castillo tonight, he's definitely done. Losing to a guy that he would have mopped up back in the day. Also sad to see the future hall of famer fighting what possibly was his last fight in front of such a tiny crowd and on Wed night fights. Only 34 years old and way past his prime. Too many wars, too much punishment to his body always trying to make weight, etc.

 
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Zab Judah-Joshua Clottey: Bad Blood Brewed For Years


By Mark Vester

The bad blood between welterweights Zab Judah (36-5, 25 KOs) and Joshua Clottey (34-2, 20 KOs) is no hype. The two fighters do not like each other and both have vowed to destroy the other on Saturday night when they face off in Las Vegas for the vacant IBF welterweight title.


Clottey spoke with boxing scribe Tim Smith and told him that Judah tried to call him out to a street fight in 2004. Judah, the welterweight champion at the time, was upset that Clottey, a fellow Brooklyn boxer, wanted to fight him. When he heard Clottey wanted a shot, Judah and his crew went looking for him at Gleason's Gym in Brooklyn.

"It was a week after my fight and I was working out in the gym and he came in and asked me why I wanted to fight him," Clottey said. "He said he would give me money to spar with him. I said I didn't want his money. I wanted to fight him. Then he started acting crazy. He pushed my trainer and he wanted me to go outside and fight him. He really didn't want that because I'm a very good street fighter. That's how I started boxing."

If Clottey wins, he could end up fighting Antonio Margarito in a unification rematch later in the year. Clottey was beating Margarito when they fought back in 2006, until he hurt his hand in the fight and Margarito took over. Clottey told Smith that Margarito is not a very good boxer and his defense has wide holes. He seems confident to win a rematch if the two met again.

"Margarito is not a great boxer," Clottey said. "You can see all of his punches coming. I was catching everything he threw. Even though his defense is not very good, he takes a hard punch. I thought it was not good for Cotto to spend so much time on the ropes, taking punches. I was beating Margarito until I hurt my hand. But I never feared any of his punches because I'm a very good defensive fighter and I caught most of his punches."
 
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felt bad for Castillo tonight, he's definitely done. Losing to a guy that he would have mopped up back in the day. Also sad to see the future hall of famer fighting what possibly was his last fight in front of such a tiny crowd and on Wed night fights. Only 34 years old and way past his prime. Too many wars, too much punishment to his body always trying to make weight, etc.

true indeed
 
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felt bad for Castillo tonight, he's definitely done. Losing to a guy that he would have mopped up back in the day. Also sad to see the future hall of famer fighting what possibly was his last fight in front of such a tiny crowd and on Wed night fights. Only 34 years old and way past his prime. Too many wars, too much punishment to his body always trying to make weight, etc.

da fightz he had wit Chico would be enough 2 punish any man in boxing
 
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just for fun I was looking up crappy boxing records. And of course there are guys with literally hundreds of losses on the records, but pound 4 pound, this guy has to be the worst all time:

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=5316&cat=boxer
Eric Crumble
super middleweight

0 wins
31 losses
31 times getting Knocked out.

LMAO, how you gonna get knocked out 31 out of 31 times? can't believe they let him fight that many times.
 
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Clotty: I'm going to make Judah cry



ZAB JUDAH: I am looking forward to winning my fifth world title. I have a great team behind me. I have been back in the gym and I am ready for this fight. I was depressed when my fight against Shane Mosley fell out but everything happens for a reason and here I am ready to win my 5th world title. I do not underestimate Clottey in any way. He is a great fighter but he will be facing the best Zab Judah.



JOSHUA CLOTTEY: I will only talk to Zab and I will make him cry on Saturday. I do not come here to lose. I have wanted to fight him for a long time and now that time is here. I don't care that he is a 4 time world champion, I promise that I will beat him.
 
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Freddie Roach Has Been Where Hopkins Is, Wants Him to Retire


Freddie Roach fears that he knows where Bernard Hopkins is going because he’s been there himself. He fears he’s going too far.

That is often a boxer’s fate when his shadow has grown long and age is upon him. In a sport that is ruthlessly honest, self-delusion takes hold of the aging fighter and blinds him as surely as a badly swollen eye. No longer can he see what the rest of the boxing world can see. He cannot see who he is any more, only who he was.

For most of his career, Bernard Hopkins has been a realist. He always saw boxing in its harshest light. He took few things for granted, prepared relentlessly for every opponent and trusted no one but himself and the few people he allowed inside his tight circle. Although his career has not been without its ups and downs he understood the business side of boxing well enough to end up breaking the record for middleweight title defenses while earning enough money in the past few years to live out the rest of his days in the lap of luxury. Perhaps just as important, as he likes to point out, he still has his Costco card in his wallet, a sign that he has not allowed success to overtake clear thinking.

Yet when Roach heard that Hopkins had agreed to face undefeated middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City Oct. 18 at a catch weight of 170 pounds he thought of what he had seen from Hopkins’ corner in his last fight, a loss to Joe Calzaghe that Roach had helped him prepare for.

What he saw were signs he had ignored himself, signs his own trainer, Eddie Futch, had tried to point out to him 23 years earlier after a young and undefeated Greg Haugen had stopped him in seven rounds. They were signs he not only could not see, they were signs he would not see and he paid dearly for ignoring both them and the sage advice of a man who had his back even when Roach thought otherwise.

“Eddie told me it was time to stop,’’ Roach recalled. “I wasn’t ready to listen. I was 27. I told him he was old. I wasn’t old. I fought five more times after that without Eddie in my corner. I lost four of them. The last time was back home (in Massachusetts) against David Rivello. After a couple of rounds I was walking back to my corner asking myself, ‘What the hell are you doing in here?’’’

Roach concedes that his decision to ignore his trainer’s advice contributed mightily to the Parkinson’s disease he now battles with every day. Perhaps that is why he is sensitive to the plight of the aging fighter, especially one with the skills Hopkins has for so long possessed.

Therein lies the danger as Roach sees it, a danger he feels is now lurking not only in Atlantic City but in a hard scrabble gym on the south side of Youngstown, Ohio, where Pavlik is preparing like a beast to beat down a legend. That is something Roach does not want to see but fears may be unavoidable.

“I’m a little bit worried about that fight,’’ Roach admitted. “Bernard is my friend. I asked him to retire after the last fight. I saw some things I didn’t like and I told him that.

“Four times in that fight he walked to the wrong corner after the end of the round. One time they showed it on TV and made a joke about him looking for the ring card girls but it happened four times. Why do you go to the wrong corner four times? Something’s not right because Calzaghe hadn’t buzzed him. Calzaghe couldn’t hurt Bernard but Kelly is a big puncher. He’s a different cat. He’s a young, strong, hungry guy. Timing-wise this is not right.’’

Roach has told Hopkins how he feels and has said he will not train him for a fight he doesn’t believe he should take at this stage of his life but like so many fighters before him, the former middleweight and light heavyweight title holder is deaf to such a discussion. His long-time co-trainer, Nazim Richardson, said in the wee hours of the morning after the Calzaghe defeat that he had not counseled Hopkins to retire but had told him, “There’s only one thing in boxing you haven’t experienced and that’s a beating.’’

While Richardson said then that he felt Hopkins was too slick to have a beating put on him by today’s less well schooled champions his rueful smile seemed to belie his words. Yet it has been announced that Hopkins will face Pavlik in the same place where, ironically, he once claimed he had fought his last fight. If there is one thing that remains unchanged about Bernard Hopkins it is his stubbornness.

On June 10, 2006, he dominated Antonio Tarver to claim the light heavyweight title in a fight that was supposed to be his fistic farewell. He had promised his mother he would not fight past the age of 40 and he was nearly 41 at the time and saw the end was near. He was brilliant that night but because of it he could not convince himself it was time to stop.

He has fought twice since, outpointing another faded fighter named Winky Wright before losing to Calzaghe on a night where he uncharacteristically faded badly himself in the final few rounds. He has lost three of his last five fights, albeit by close and hotly disputed decisions in several cases, and will be 43 when he gets in with Pavlik, an undefeated power puncher (34-0, 30 KO) who would very much love to be the fighter who retires a legend for good.

“Of course, Pavlik is moving up in weight so we don’t know how that will affect him but he’s a dangerous puncher,’’ Roach said, adding that Pavlik had no problems moving up to 168 when he beat the man he first dethroned by knockout, Jermain Taylor, in a rematch. “Nazim knows how heavy handed Kelly is. He saw him grow up in the amateurs. We’ve talked about it.

“So why fight him? Bernard had a great career. I don’t think he needs the money. But boxing is hard to give up. I know.

“We don’t listen to our peers. I didn’t listen to Eddie. Bernard won’t listen either I’m afraid. Bernard doesn’t want to hear it but my concern is those four times that night he went to the wrong corner. I know he had some problems with a hyperactive thyroid that the doctor told me he had to take care of that. Maybe that had something to do with it. But this is just not a good fight for Bernard.

“Is Pavlik in any danger in this fight? No. People say if Bernard can lull him into a slow pace he can out box him but that’s not going to happen. Pavlik’s not like that.

“Bernard is crafty enough to box him but not the way he looked his last two fights. Kelly Pavlik is an up and coming guy. He’s strong. He’s busy. He’s aggressive. He backs people up so well. I picked (Edison) Miranda to beat him but Pavlik was too strong for him. He backed up that animal with ease. If he puts that pressure on Bernard…’’

Freddie Roach chose not to finish that sentence. Kelly Pavlik, he fears, won’t be as reticent.

“Would I train him for this fight?’’ Roach said. “I don’t think I can do that. I don’t think I can help him win that fight. I think if he asks I’ll say no.’’

Freddie Roach is hoping against hope that Bernard Hopkins will do the same but he’s not counting on it. He’s been where Hopkins is right now and he’s seen many other fighters there as well. None he could think of left the stage until somebody else turned out the lights.
 
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Does Antonio Margarito Belong In The Top-Ten Of The Greatest Mexican Fighters In Hist

31.07.08 - by James Slater: The fighter of the hour, Antonio Margarito has been getting many plaudits after his great win over the previously unbeaten Miguel Cotto - and rightly so. Now firmly in among the pound-for-pound lists of a number of fans and writers, "Tony" has established himself as one of the very best today. But has the welterweight warrior known as "The Tijuana Tornado" done enough to be ranked as one of the ten best ever fighters from Mexico?

Margarito has a lot going for him when it comes to this question. Possessing the same qualities his predecessors had when it comes to his ability as a fighter - with heart, chin, stamina and mental attitude being uppermost on the 30-year-old's resume - Margarito certainly is the typical Mexican warrior. And now, with his win over Cotto being at the top, "Tony's" list of formidable opposition is building up. Longevity too, is a quality the welterweight has shown. Should he carry on the way he's going - say getting wins over five or six more top-notch opponents from the pick of today's best - Margarito will be a dead-cert for evaluation as one of Mexico's very best. Perhaps not quite there yet, Margarito is pretty damn close.

But cracked the top-ten? As tempting as it is to put the almost unbelievably tough Margarito amongst such exalted company as men like Julio Cesar Chavez, Salvador Sanchez, Erik Morales, Rubin Olivares, Marco Antonio Barrera and Ricardo Lopez, to name but six Mexican legends, I cannot. Not yet, anyway. As I said, though, the way Margarito's going he will be there one day.

Wins over Paul Williams (in a rematch), Floyd Mayweather (if "Money" ever fights again), "Sugar" Shane Mosley, Zab Judah, Joshua Clottey (in a rematch) and Oscar De La Hoya would do it. Doubly so if these wins came by stoppage. Margarito wants these fights, it's just a matter of whether or not he will get them. It's unlikely the humble warrior from Tijuana will be thinking too much about his legacy at this point, though. Concentrating only on earning the money he deserves and in giving his fans the best fights possible, Margarito is simply getting on with his fighting.

Never boastful when he wins, you will not hear Margarito shouting how he is the best fighter to have ever come from Mexico. Far too unassuming for that, the 30-year-old welterweight powerhouse will let other people decide his place in history for him.

In a few, likely eventful and crowd pleasing years from now - when he's hung up his gloves and is no longer destroying rival fighters - historian's will be doing just this
 
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De La Hoya is Not Afraid To Fight Margarito, Says Gomez

By Mark Vester

Eric Gomez, VP and matchmaker for Golden Boy Promotions, says Oscar De La Hoya is not afraid to fight WBA welterweight champion Antonio Margarito. Gomez is responding to the mounting criticism from fans and writers over De La Hoya's decision to pursue a bout with Manny Pacquiao, a lightweight, instead of facing Margarito, considered the top welterweight after knocking out Miguel Cotto last weekend in Las Vegas.

Prior to the Margarito-Cotto bout, De La Hoya said a fight with the winner would be a great way to end his career on December 6. After Margarito-Cotto, De La Hoya told Margarito's promoter Bob Arum that he would not consider a fight with Margarito because he doesn't want to end his career by fighting another Mexican.

Gomez told veteran boxing scribe Robert Morales that De La Hoya has no fear of the tough Mexican. He says Margarito should think about avenging his loss to Paul Williams before he calls out De La Hoya.

"For people who say Oscar would be afraid to fight Margarito, those are just Oscar haters. He has fought everyone, from (Rafael) Ruelas, when they didn't think he was ready for Ruelas, to Hopkins. Oscar has heard it all, from chicken to this and that. The truth is, he has fought everybody," Gomez said. "Obviously, we know that Margarito is calling him out," Gomez said. "But it's funny because everybody calls Oscar out."

"He had a big win. He was the underdog. It was a very good win. But Margarito has some unfinished business. He does have a guy who beat him last year in Paul Williams. It's kind of strange for a fighter who won a big fight want to fight Oscar when he has a chance to avenge the loss of a fighter who beat him."

Margarito told Morales that he doesn't understand why De La Hoya is avoiding the fight.

"What's the fear?" Margarito said. "I don't understand that. At the time we made this fight, he said he would fight the winner. It would be good for the Mexican people. I hope he reconsiders."

At the end of the day, Gomez says that De La Hoya is the boss and he will not be influenced by the criticism of fight fans and boxing writers.

"Oscar is the boss and ultimately that is going to be up to him," Gomez said. "But he is not going to be influenced by reporters or fans saying he is afraid of this person or that person, because he has fought everybody
 
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LIVE BOXING TONIGHT ON ESPN 2 AT 9 PM ET. & ON SHOWTIME AT 11PM ET.

Pretty dope night and they finally scheduled one card ending when another starts even though it probably wasn't purposely. Ishe Smith is fighting on the Showtime card and hopefully he can throw some fucking punches to win rounds.

Sebastian Demers is fighting Miranda on ESPN 2 who gave Kid Chocolate some problems last time out.
 
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yeah, should be a good fight. I know Miranda from the kid chocolate fight, he's another heavy hitter with a lot of KO's from Columbia, ironically named Miranda as well. Should be a good one. I've seen that Sebastien Demers guy fight not too long ago on espn, he fought some ex-marine or some shit from the mid-west. He seemed pretty light fisted and not too impressive. I'll be going for Miranda in this one.

btw, what do you think of my Crazy Kim sig? lol, he's my new favorite fighter (eclipsed tye fields).
 
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felt bad for Castillo tonight, he's definitely done. Losing to a guy that he would have mopped up back in the day. Also sad to see the future hall of famer fighting what possibly was his last fight in front of such a tiny crowd and on Wed night fights. Only 34 years old and way past his prime. Too many wars, too much punishment to his body always trying to make weight, etc.

I agree 1000%. I watched this, and although Castillo is one of my favorite fighters of all time, I can honestly (and sadly) say he doesn't have it anymore. He cannot compete at the highest level. That chump he was in with last on Wed. would have been eaten alive by him a few years ago...but that's boxing for you.

Oh well...it was great while it lasted.
 

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Now you say you agree 1000% but then when I said he was done and washed up you talked bad about me. What's up with that?

And check this out:

"After Margarito-Cotto, De La Hoya told Margarito's promoter Bob Arum that he would not consider a fight with Margarito because he doesn't want to end his career by fighting another Mexican."

Looks like I was right again huh... add another point to the right column.
 

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Roach is trippin'.. it's not like Bernard has been taking hella shots to his head. That last fight against Calzaghe, Bernard didn't even seem buzzed. Calzaghe got one good left hand in. The only thing that worries me about Bernard is his activity/punch rate. But he'll slow Pavlik down and maybe smash him like he did Trinidad.
 
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Now you say you agree 1000% but then when I said he was done and washed up you talked bad about me. What's up with that?

And check this out:

"After Margarito-Cotto, De La Hoya told Margarito's promoter Bob Arum that he would not consider a fight with Margarito because he doesn't want to end his career by fighting another Mexican."

Looks like I was right again huh... add another point to the right column.
Tony. You're a moron. I could say that Los Angeles is in Washington, and Mike Tyson is a Jew with a vagina...does it mean it's true? LOL Fuck De La Hoya; until he actually FIGHTS someone his own size in his ''farewell'' fight, he's a fucking joke.

And where was your thoughts on Castillo? Was it recent?

LOL @ your point chart.
 
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"After Margarito-Cotto, De La Hoya told Margarito's promoter Bob Arum that he would not consider a fight with Margarito because he doesn't want to end his career by fighting another Mexican."

Looks like I was right again huh... add another point to the right column.
No I call this an excuse because BEFORE the fight he said he wanted the winner of cotto/margarito. After the fight he's like nah fuck that, he's mexican.

Roach is trippin'.. it's not like Bernard has been taking hella shots to his head. That last fight against Calzaghe, Bernard didn't even seem buzzed. Calzaghe got one good left hand in. The only thing that worries me about Bernard is his activity/punch rate. But he'll slow Pavlik down and maybe smash him like he did Trinidad.
I hope he's wrong. The thing that has me worried is that he said he had an active thyroid prior to the fight and during the fight 4 times started going to the wrong corner. I don't remember that watching the fight so I dunno. Also, Roach has done this before - he's overly protective of his fighters and who can blame him? After the first Vaszquez/Marquez fight, Roach refused to train Vazquez anymore because Roach said Vazquez was starting to studder his words and might be brain damaged. I think he was wrong on that.