Dawson still doesn't have any heart, when he beat Tarver the first time i thought he was the next big thing but he looked liked shit even in that rematch against Tarver. He just outworked a very old fighter and thats not overdoing it. Dawson is one of them fighters that shows no urgency even though he has talent
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Pascal-Cloud Finalized For August 11
BoxingScene.com had been informed that a television date has been finalized with Showtime - for a guaranteed light heavyweight war between IBF champion Tavoris Cloud (24-0, 19KOs) and former WBC beltholder Jean Pascal (26-2-1, 16KOs). Yvon Michel, who promotes Pascal, reached an agreement with Cloud's promoter, Don King, and Showtime, for the date of August 11th in either Montreal or Quebec City.
BoxingScene.com had been informed that a television date has been finalized with Showtime - for a guaranteed light heavyweight war between IBF champion Tavoris Cloud (24-0, 19KOs) and former WBC beltholder Jean Pascal (26-2-1, 16KOs). Yvon Michel, who promotes Pascal, reached an agreement with Cloud's promoter, Don King, and Showtime, for the date of August 11th in either Montreal or Quebec City.
Bernard Hopkins: I’ll continue my career and go after the champions
April 30th, 2012
By Dan Ambrose: Bernard Hopkins (52-6-2, 32 KO’s) fought his heart out last Saturday night against Chad Dawson (31-1, 17 KO’s) but it wasn’t good enough for him to get the win with the three judges, as the 47-year-old Hopkins came up the loser by a 12 round majority decision by the scores 117-111, 117-111 and 114-114.
There was some thought that Hopkins would elect to retire rather than hang on and maybe end up being a gatekeeper or trial horse for the younger contenders at 175. However, Hopkins says he’s going to continue fighting and wants to go after the other champions, presumably at light heavyweight.
Hopkins said “I will continue my career and challenge any champion in my division.”
The options are as follows for Hopkins at 175: 1. WBO champ Nathan Cleverly 2. IBF champ Tavoris Cloud 3. WBA champ Beibut Shumenov.
It’s pretty easy to see immediately what would be the best option for Hopkins. It isn’t Shumenov or Cloud, because neither of them are huge draws and Hopkins would be lucky to bring in a crowd of 3000 fans no matter where the fight took place in the United States.
The only real option is the 25-year-old Cleverly, because he’s capable of bringing in huge crowds in Wales and if Hopkins can get 1/2 of the gate in addition to a good purse split, he’ll make a real killing come this summer. Cleverly and his promoter already are interested in a Hopkins bout, and I doubt that his loss to Dawson took away any of their interest.
It obviously would make more sense for Cleverly to face Dawson instead of Hopkins, but given that Hopkins is the much more popular fighter, it’s an easy decision to choose him rather than Dawson. Besides that, Cleverly matches up better against Hopkins than he does against Dawson. Hopkins is possibly beatable, but Dawson would no doubt do a number on Cleverly
April 30th, 2012
By Dan Ambrose: Bernard Hopkins (52-6-2, 32 KO’s) fought his heart out last Saturday night against Chad Dawson (31-1, 17 KO’s) but it wasn’t good enough for him to get the win with the three judges, as the 47-year-old Hopkins came up the loser by a 12 round majority decision by the scores 117-111, 117-111 and 114-114.
There was some thought that Hopkins would elect to retire rather than hang on and maybe end up being a gatekeeper or trial horse for the younger contenders at 175. However, Hopkins says he’s going to continue fighting and wants to go after the other champions, presumably at light heavyweight.
Hopkins said “I will continue my career and challenge any champion in my division.”
The options are as follows for Hopkins at 175: 1. WBO champ Nathan Cleverly 2. IBF champ Tavoris Cloud 3. WBA champ Beibut Shumenov.
It’s pretty easy to see immediately what would be the best option for Hopkins. It isn’t Shumenov or Cloud, because neither of them are huge draws and Hopkins would be lucky to bring in a crowd of 3000 fans no matter where the fight took place in the United States.
The only real option is the 25-year-old Cleverly, because he’s capable of bringing in huge crowds in Wales and if Hopkins can get 1/2 of the gate in addition to a good purse split, he’ll make a real killing come this summer. Cleverly and his promoter already are interested in a Hopkins bout, and I doubt that his loss to Dawson took away any of their interest.
It obviously would make more sense for Cleverly to face Dawson instead of Hopkins, but given that Hopkins is the much more popular fighter, it’s an easy decision to choose him rather than Dawson. Besides that, Cleverly matches up better against Hopkins than he does against Dawson. Hopkins is possibly beatable, but Dawson would no doubt do a number on Cleverly
Yeah, I'll never tell a guy to give up getting a paycheck in fighting when he's still in good health and can clearly still compete at a level where the paychecks are worth it.
I think his age is overplayed when people ask him to retire. The money from boxing for Hopkins isn't there for much longer unless he gets big time into promotion so he should get all he can get out of it while he feels healthy and he isn't going out there catching beatdowns.
I think his age is overplayed when people ask him to retire. The money from boxing for Hopkins isn't there for much longer unless he gets big time into promotion so he should get all he can get out of it while he feels healthy and he isn't going out there catching beatdowns.
Exclusive Interview With Paulie Malignaggi - “I Can Win Rounds Against Any Fighter In The World”
By James Slater: “Magic Man” Paulie Malignaggi fully rejuvenated his boxing career with that superb, upset stoppage win over Vyachesav Senchenko this past Sunday in Ukraine, and the 31-year-old is now a two-weight world champ.
The new WBA 147-pound king kindly took the time to speak with ESB earlier today.
Always a great interview, here is what Paulie, 31-4(7) had to say:
James Slater: Thanks so much for taking the time to speak with Eastside Boxing, Champ! Belated congratulations on the excellent win on Sunday. Would you go as far as to rate the win over Senchenko as THE best win of your career?
Paulie Malignaggi: Thank you. I don’t know if I would rate it as the best win, but it’s definitely right up there. I think my win over Lovemore Ndou, the first fight, was better. People tend to forget it, but I dominated him at a time when no-one else ever had. People have dominated him since, but not before the fight when I beat him. I think that’s still my best performance. But as I say, this one is up there because there was a lot of pressure in this fight: going to another country and the possibility of getting robbed, and I overcame that.
J.S: A commentator quoted you before the fight as saying it would be sweet if you could become a two-time, two-weight world champ. Was the Senchenko win sweeter than the Ndou win?
P.M: I don’t think I truly appreciated it when I first became a world champion. I fully expected to do it, I was young then, and I kind of took it for granted when I did become world champion. Also, I didn’t really enjoy it. I felt empty when I lost the title and I yearned for another belt ever since. So now, with the right team around me and with a great trainer, it’s so much better. I can really enjoy it this time.
J.S: I wrote in my fight report that you destroyed Senchenko, and one guy posted how he never thought he’d read “destroyed” and “Malignaggi” in the same line; obviously having a go at your lack of devastating power. Yet you did destroy the guy………
P.M: You know, you’ve got to understand - and I’m not sure how many of the people who leave comments like that have actually boxed or had any kind of physical altercation at all - that ALL punches hurt. When you’re a concussive puncher you get called a hard puncher, but no punches tickle. When I hit you, I will hurt you, I will cut you and I will bruise you. In terms of destroying Senchenko, I think I beat him mentally. He was nervous at the press conference and I sensed no confidence from him. I broke him down mentally and physically. The body shots I landed really took a lot out of him. You can see, right before the stoppage, Senchenko looks at (ref) Steve Smoger, as if to say, ‘stop the fight already.’ I broke him down in every way.
J.S: Do you feel better than ever as a welterweight?
P.M: Well, the last two years at 140, it was brutal making weight. It was hell on earth for the Juan Diaz and Amir Khan fights. At 147, it’s still hard but I feel so much better. I’m not the biggest welterweight around, but I’m still a very good boxer at the weight. Skills pay the bills and I can win rounds against any fighter in the world. And, like I say, I may not get actual KO’s, but I can get TKO’s. I feel I’d have got more stoppages at 140, similar to the two I’ve had at welterweight, if not for my bad hands.
J.S: You’re right back at elite level, and in a great, great weight class. Is it too soon for you to have an idea of what you may do next?
P.M: It is really too soon. On Twitter, all kinds of fighters have been calling me out, and the media have put a lot of names out there. I want to let this win settle in first - and also they haven’t sent me my belt yet (laughs). I’m going to the big fight this weekend in Las Vegas, and I’m going to enjoy that and the possibilities that are out there for me. I’m excited and I want to continue to fight the best fighters in the world. I’m a much more well-known entity now: everyone knows Paulie Malignaggi and now I have another world title. I’m excited about the future.
J.S: In the U.K, Kell Brook and his promoter have called you out. Have you any interest at all in that fight?
P.M: I’m not going to shoot down any names. I know what it’s like to be a young up-and-comer like Brook, who wants to become a world champion. I know what it’s like to be in his shoes. I could definitely make a defence against Kell. He’s a great fighter and I think Great Britain should be proud of having him.
J.S: You looked as good as ever against Senchenko. At age 31, how many more fights do you plan on having?
P.M: I’m excited however long the ride lasts. The plan is still to go no longer than another two, maybe three years. This is all kind of like bonus time right now, as so many people never thought I’d become world champion again. I’m going to make the most if it.
J.S: Thanks so much for you time, Paulie. Just finally, you mentioned the big fight this Saturday in Vegas - and I’m going so maybe I’ll see you there! - what is your pick?
P.M: Yeah, maybe I’ll run into you. I think Cotto has a good chance. I have to favour Floyd Mayweather of course, but I think this fight might be the last fight where Mayweather could lose. If he doesn’t lose to Cotto, I don’t think Mayweather will ever lose - not even to Pacquiao who I think he easily defeats. But Cotto is a live underdog.
J.S: Thanks again. You’ll probably be spending a lot of time signing autographs in Vegas, and well deserved too!
P.M: Okay, cheers.
By James Slater: “Magic Man” Paulie Malignaggi fully rejuvenated his boxing career with that superb, upset stoppage win over Vyachesav Senchenko this past Sunday in Ukraine, and the 31-year-old is now a two-weight world champ.
The new WBA 147-pound king kindly took the time to speak with ESB earlier today.
Always a great interview, here is what Paulie, 31-4(7) had to say:
James Slater: Thanks so much for taking the time to speak with Eastside Boxing, Champ! Belated congratulations on the excellent win on Sunday. Would you go as far as to rate the win over Senchenko as THE best win of your career?
Paulie Malignaggi: Thank you. I don’t know if I would rate it as the best win, but it’s definitely right up there. I think my win over Lovemore Ndou, the first fight, was better. People tend to forget it, but I dominated him at a time when no-one else ever had. People have dominated him since, but not before the fight when I beat him. I think that’s still my best performance. But as I say, this one is up there because there was a lot of pressure in this fight: going to another country and the possibility of getting robbed, and I overcame that.
J.S: A commentator quoted you before the fight as saying it would be sweet if you could become a two-time, two-weight world champ. Was the Senchenko win sweeter than the Ndou win?
P.M: I don’t think I truly appreciated it when I first became a world champion. I fully expected to do it, I was young then, and I kind of took it for granted when I did become world champion. Also, I didn’t really enjoy it. I felt empty when I lost the title and I yearned for another belt ever since. So now, with the right team around me and with a great trainer, it’s so much better. I can really enjoy it this time.
J.S: I wrote in my fight report that you destroyed Senchenko, and one guy posted how he never thought he’d read “destroyed” and “Malignaggi” in the same line; obviously having a go at your lack of devastating power. Yet you did destroy the guy………
P.M: You know, you’ve got to understand - and I’m not sure how many of the people who leave comments like that have actually boxed or had any kind of physical altercation at all - that ALL punches hurt. When you’re a concussive puncher you get called a hard puncher, but no punches tickle. When I hit you, I will hurt you, I will cut you and I will bruise you. In terms of destroying Senchenko, I think I beat him mentally. He was nervous at the press conference and I sensed no confidence from him. I broke him down mentally and physically. The body shots I landed really took a lot out of him. You can see, right before the stoppage, Senchenko looks at (ref) Steve Smoger, as if to say, ‘stop the fight already.’ I broke him down in every way.
J.S: Do you feel better than ever as a welterweight?
P.M: Well, the last two years at 140, it was brutal making weight. It was hell on earth for the Juan Diaz and Amir Khan fights. At 147, it’s still hard but I feel so much better. I’m not the biggest welterweight around, but I’m still a very good boxer at the weight. Skills pay the bills and I can win rounds against any fighter in the world. And, like I say, I may not get actual KO’s, but I can get TKO’s. I feel I’d have got more stoppages at 140, similar to the two I’ve had at welterweight, if not for my bad hands.
J.S: You’re right back at elite level, and in a great, great weight class. Is it too soon for you to have an idea of what you may do next?
P.M: It is really too soon. On Twitter, all kinds of fighters have been calling me out, and the media have put a lot of names out there. I want to let this win settle in first - and also they haven’t sent me my belt yet (laughs). I’m going to the big fight this weekend in Las Vegas, and I’m going to enjoy that and the possibilities that are out there for me. I’m excited and I want to continue to fight the best fighters in the world. I’m a much more well-known entity now: everyone knows Paulie Malignaggi and now I have another world title. I’m excited about the future.
J.S: In the U.K, Kell Brook and his promoter have called you out. Have you any interest at all in that fight?
P.M: I’m not going to shoot down any names. I know what it’s like to be a young up-and-comer like Brook, who wants to become a world champion. I know what it’s like to be in his shoes. I could definitely make a defence against Kell. He’s a great fighter and I think Great Britain should be proud of having him.
J.S: You looked as good as ever against Senchenko. At age 31, how many more fights do you plan on having?
P.M: I’m excited however long the ride lasts. The plan is still to go no longer than another two, maybe three years. This is all kind of like bonus time right now, as so many people never thought I’d become world champion again. I’m going to make the most if it.
J.S: Thanks so much for you time, Paulie. Just finally, you mentioned the big fight this Saturday in Vegas - and I’m going so maybe I’ll see you there! - what is your pick?
P.M: Yeah, maybe I’ll run into you. I think Cotto has a good chance. I have to favour Floyd Mayweather of course, but I think this fight might be the last fight where Mayweather could lose. If he doesn’t lose to Cotto, I don’t think Mayweather will ever lose - not even to Pacquiao who I think he easily defeats. But Cotto is a live underdog.
J.S: Thanks again. You’ll probably be spending a lot of time signing autographs in Vegas, and well deserved too!
P.M: Okay, cheers.
Dawson the new Ring 175lb champion; moves to #10 on Pound-for-Pound list
May 1st, 2012
By Allan Fox: With his win over WBC light heavyweight champion Bernard Hopkins last Saturday night, Chad Dawson (31-1, 17 KO’s) picked up not only the World Boxing Council 175 pound title, but also the The Ring light heavyweight belt.
In addition to that, the 29-year-old Dawson moved to the number #10 spot in The Ring’s pound-for-pound ratings, replacing Yuriorkis Gamboa in that spot.
Dawson out-boxed the 47-year-old Hopkins, beating him by a less than thrilling 12 round majority decision by the scores of 117-111, 117-111 and 114-114. The last score didn’t seem reality based because Dawson was the clear winner in the minds of many boxing fans.
Using his jab and straight lefts, Dawson was able to land just enough shots to get the win. Hopkins could have won the fight if he had been a little busier, because the fight was there for him to win. However, Hopkins seemed more concerned with not getting hit than letting his hands go.
Here are the Ring’s ratings for the lightweight division:
Champion: Chad Dawson
#1 Bernard Hopkins
#2 Jean Pascal
#3 Tavoris Cloud
#4 Nathan Cleverly
#5 Adrian Diacunu
May 1st, 2012
By Allan Fox: With his win over WBC light heavyweight champion Bernard Hopkins last Saturday night, Chad Dawson (31-1, 17 KO’s) picked up not only the World Boxing Council 175 pound title, but also the The Ring light heavyweight belt.
In addition to that, the 29-year-old Dawson moved to the number #10 spot in The Ring’s pound-for-pound ratings, replacing Yuriorkis Gamboa in that spot.
Dawson out-boxed the 47-year-old Hopkins, beating him by a less than thrilling 12 round majority decision by the scores of 117-111, 117-111 and 114-114. The last score didn’t seem reality based because Dawson was the clear winner in the minds of many boxing fans.
Using his jab and straight lefts, Dawson was able to land just enough shots to get the win. Hopkins could have won the fight if he had been a little busier, because the fight was there for him to win. However, Hopkins seemed more concerned with not getting hit than letting his hands go.
Here are the Ring’s ratings for the lightweight division:
Champion: Chad Dawson
#1 Bernard Hopkins
#2 Jean Pascal
#3 Tavoris Cloud
#4 Nathan Cleverly
#5 Adrian Diacunu
yeah and as a fan of bernard I wouldn't mind seeing another fight or two. But I will say it has to be against the right opponent. No more chad dawsons. He needs a guy that's going to be in front of him to put on any kind of show for the fans (like pascal was). Someone like Cloud or Carl Froch would be fun fights. Maybe even try to snag a cruiswerweight title. He should avoid fast, athletic counter punchers imo.
There's millions of reasons he should do and they're all green. Comparing Hopkins taking punches in a fight or two to Holyfield's career who got into fire fights like it was the rules is crazy. Ali had been slowing down long before he retired and should've never been let inside the ring against Holmes & Berbick when he tried to come out of that retirement as his speech was clearly slurred at that time. Those fights should have never happened period.
Hopkins is just neither of those guys in terms of the way he acted in the ring throughout his whole career and it just ranges from person to person. Archie Moore was as old as Hopkins in the ring and was in far more brutal fights than Hopkins and lived to be 82 and didn't turn out like Ali and even Ali battered him at the end of his career.
I like to see guys that can retire with their minds right and money in their pocket but I don't call for anyone to stop making money unless there's some kind of medical condition stating he shouldn't be fighting or he's clearly starting to deteriorate.
Hopkins is just neither of those guys in terms of the way he acted in the ring throughout his whole career and it just ranges from person to person. Archie Moore was as old as Hopkins in the ring and was in far more brutal fights than Hopkins and lived to be 82 and didn't turn out like Ali and even Ali battered him at the end of his career.
I like to see guys that can retire with their minds right and money in their pocket but I don't call for anyone to stop making money unless there's some kind of medical condition stating he shouldn't be fighting or he's clearly starting to deteriorate.
in my eyes Hopkins skills are slowing down, hes very smart in the ring but that can only go so far. he hasn't took any beatings but he will soon if he continues to fight at the top level. to me its not a lot of top fighters willing to fight B-hop at this point in his career with no title to lean on unless he goes to the UK(they will pay him top dollar) and gets a beating or worse koed like Roy Jones. u never know what could happen in the ring at his age, I just want him to go out in style. just my opinion
Once Again, Floyd Mayweather Junior Accuses Pacquiao Of Taking PED’s; Says His Health Would Be In Danger If He Took The Fight
By James Slater: If anyone had retained the slightest hope that rival superstars and Pound-for-Pounders Floyd Mayweather Junior and Manny Pacquiao would ever fight, what “Money” had to say yesterday in Las Vegas surely crushed any fading chance of the mega-fight happening.
Although Mayweather has seen Pac-Man pursue legal action over his PED claims ( with Manny suing Floyd for defamation back in 2009), he could not resist making the same claims again yesterday. Shortly after making his grand arrival in Vegas - along with fellow “Ring Kings” Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley and Saul Alvarez - the unbeaten 35-year-old great launched into the man he is not fighting on Saturday night; Pacquiao.
“This motherf****r was 106-pounds [at the start of his pro career] and he’s just walking through Cotto. And Cotto can’t knock down Mosley, but he can? Come on, Man,” Mayweather said to gathered members of the media. “Go back and look at pictures. His head is small and then all of a sudden his head just grew? Come on, stop this. Go back and look at pictures and tell me this man’s head didn’t just get bigger. You’re going to tell me all this shit is all natural? Come on, man, stop!”
Mayweather, as steamed as we’ve ever seen him, then argued that his agreeing to take on a Pacquiao not wiling to adhere to his OSRDT demands would be a danger to his health.
“Health is more important than anything,” Mayweather stated. “Because guess what? When my career is over, if I’m hurt because of something that has happened in a fight, I can’t come to you and say, ‘I need money for this and for that.’ So my health is more important.”
Mayweather, when pushed on whether or not he believes Pacquiao is taking PED’s, replied that “it’s basic common sense,” that he is doing so.
Pacquiao, of course, is vehement in his denials, and there is no proof that the 33-year-old eight-weight champion has ever taken, or is taking anything illegal - despite what Mayweather says. And that’s where we are right now and where we’ve been for the last three years or more: with Mayweather refusing to fight Pac-Man until he is sure he is not cheating, and Pacquiao refusing to jump through Floyd’s hoops.
The bottom line is this: if anyone still thinks this fight is ever, ever going to happen, they are simply fooling themselves. Way more than enough has been written about this would be fight already, and now is the time for everyone involved in the sport to stop wasting our time and move on.
As to whether or not Pacuaio’s legal team will get busy once again, that’s something Mayweather clearly isn’t worried about.
By James Slater: If anyone had retained the slightest hope that rival superstars and Pound-for-Pounders Floyd Mayweather Junior and Manny Pacquiao would ever fight, what “Money” had to say yesterday in Las Vegas surely crushed any fading chance of the mega-fight happening.
Although Mayweather has seen Pac-Man pursue legal action over his PED claims ( with Manny suing Floyd for defamation back in 2009), he could not resist making the same claims again yesterday. Shortly after making his grand arrival in Vegas - along with fellow “Ring Kings” Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley and Saul Alvarez - the unbeaten 35-year-old great launched into the man he is not fighting on Saturday night; Pacquiao.
“This motherf****r was 106-pounds [at the start of his pro career] and he’s just walking through Cotto. And Cotto can’t knock down Mosley, but he can? Come on, Man,” Mayweather said to gathered members of the media. “Go back and look at pictures. His head is small and then all of a sudden his head just grew? Come on, stop this. Go back and look at pictures and tell me this man’s head didn’t just get bigger. You’re going to tell me all this shit is all natural? Come on, man, stop!”
Mayweather, as steamed as we’ve ever seen him, then argued that his agreeing to take on a Pacquiao not wiling to adhere to his OSRDT demands would be a danger to his health.
“Health is more important than anything,” Mayweather stated. “Because guess what? When my career is over, if I’m hurt because of something that has happened in a fight, I can’t come to you and say, ‘I need money for this and for that.’ So my health is more important.”
Mayweather, when pushed on whether or not he believes Pacquiao is taking PED’s, replied that “it’s basic common sense,” that he is doing so.
Pacquiao, of course, is vehement in his denials, and there is no proof that the 33-year-old eight-weight champion has ever taken, or is taking anything illegal - despite what Mayweather says. And that’s where we are right now and where we’ve been for the last three years or more: with Mayweather refusing to fight Pac-Man until he is sure he is not cheating, and Pacquiao refusing to jump through Floyd’s hoops.
The bottom line is this: if anyone still thinks this fight is ever, ever going to happen, they are simply fooling themselves. Way more than enough has been written about this would be fight already, and now is the time for everyone involved in the sport to stop wasting our time and move on.
As to whether or not Pacuaio’s legal team will get busy once again, that’s something Mayweather clearly isn’t worried about.
