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Chisora given indefinite WBC ban
February 28th, 2012

By Scott Gilfoid: British heavyweight Dereck Chisora (15-3, 9 KO’s) received an indefinite ban by the World Boxing Council in addition to a fine for his behavior before, during and after his fight with WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko recently. Chisora slapped Vitali during the weigh-in, spit in his brother Wladimir’s face and then got involved with a brawl with former WBA heavyweight champion David Haye after the Vitali fight.

Chisora still has to meet with the British Boxing Board of Control next month to see what they’ll be doing. It’s assumed that Chisora will be fined and will receive some kind of suspension, but not a lifetime variety. The British Boxing Board’s penalization for Chisora will likely hurt him a great deal more than the WBC ban because Chisora’s fan base is at home in England and he’d likely be fighting in front of small crowds if he decides to leave the UK and fight elsewhere.

It would take him a while to build up a decent amount of fans if he fights out of country. But with the WBC, Chisora still can get ranked with the IBF, WBA and WBO and he’ll do alright. He doesn’t need the WBC in order to get a world ranking and fight for a title. However, Chisora does need to start winning a little more because he’s three out of his last four fights and has been beaten by domestic level, European level and now World level fighters. It doesn’t look like it’s going to be an issue about Chisora being banned by the WBC, not with him losing all the time.

Chisora will need to take anger management classes in order to get ranked again with the WBC, but who knows how long that will take? It’s hardly worth the bother. Chisora should just get ranked by one of the other sanctioning bodies. But the guy needs to start winning some fights for a change. He doesn’t throw enough punches, is easy to hit as all heck, and doesn’t punch hard enough. In a word Chisora is flawed. He seems to get more attention to himself with sometimes out of bounds behavior rather than for what he’s doing in the ring. That’s not good. He does all the mind games like Haye, but then doesn’t produce in the ring.

With the exception of the fine by the WBC, I see this ban as being meaningless. Chisora’s chances of ever getting ranked high enough to get another title shot are slim and none unless he faces 2nd and 3rd tier guys each time he fights. I doubt that any of the heavyweight champions are going to just pick him from the bottom again like Vitali did to give him a shot because they’ll likely be worried about getting slapped and spit on by him before the fight even starts. Who wants to fight someone like that? Chisora may have burned his bridges, not just with a rematch with Vitali, but for other title fights unless he can somehow become a mandatory challenger to one of them, which I doubt.
 
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fuck how many reasons does money maywheather need not to fight pac, what a joke and side show, boxing has been reduced to wcw/wwf status because floyd is a lil bitch! what a joke, hes too busy doing other shit for it to ever happen, i lose more and more respect to the best american fighter in a long time, cant root for him no more at all
 
Jul 24, 2005
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ormer Junior Featherweight and Junior Lightweight Titlist in ESPN's Friday Night Fights Main Event

ESPN’s Friday Night Fights presented by Corona Extra will feature former Junior Featherweight and Junior Lightweight titlist Joan “Little Tyson” Guzman (31-0-1, 18 KOs) and Junior Welterweight Jesus Pabon (17-2,11 KOs) in the 10-round main event on March 2. Friday’s show will air at 9 p.m. ET on ESPN2 HD, ESPN Deportes, and ESPN3 from Hollywood, Fla., and will include aerial views from the Goodyear blimp. The card is presented by Acquinity Sports..

Joe Tessitore and Teddy Atlas will be ringside at the Westin Diplomat to describe the action for ESPN2 HD and ESPN3, while studio host Bernardo Osuna will present all the latest boxing news and highlights. Pablo Viruega and Delvin Rodriguez will call the fights with Leopoldo Gonzalez and Lindsay Casinelli in the studio on ESPN Deportes’ Viernes de Combates (Friday Night Fights). Both shows will feature interviews with Welterweight titlist Floyd Mayweather and Junior Middleweight titlist Miguel Cotto from their Los Angeles press conference. ESPN Deportes’ Viernes de Combates will also provide an update from the U.S. National Team tournament and interview No. 1 Lightweight seed Jose Ramirez as he attempts to qualify for the 2012 Olympic Games in London.

Main Event:
Brooklyn N.Y.’s Guzman is coming off a November first-round knockout win over Florencio Castellano. Guzman earned his nickname early in his career going 21-0 with 17 knockouts in his first six years as a professional fighter. “When I first started, I was knocking all these guys out and people said I looked like Mike Tyson in the ring when he was angry,” Guzman said. “One of my friends, always called me ‘Pequeno Tyson,’ and it stuck with me ever since.”

Pabon of Puerto Rico will look to rebound after a second-round knockout loss to Francisco Castro.

Co-Feature:
Friday’s co-feature will pit Welterweights Ed “The Lion” Paredes (29-3-1, 19 KOs) against Manuel “Pirry” Leyva (21-4, 12 KOs). Paredes, the hometown favorite from Hollywood, is coming off a third-round knockout win over Michael Lozada. Mexico’s Leyva, the younger brother of former Mini-Flyweight titlist Roberto Leyva, is coming off a six-round unanimous decision win over Jose Alonso.
 
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Hearn: Bute-Froch is still NOT a done deal yet; but hopeful it can be made
February 29th, 2012

By Scott Gilfoid: Eddie Hearn, the promoter for former WBC super middleweight champion Carl Froch, is saying that the a fight between Froch and IBF super middleweight champion Lucian Bute still hasn’t been made but he’s hopeful. Bute’s promoter Jean Bedard of InterBox, seems optimistic about it, saying on his twitter today, saying to Bute “Get your luggage ready,” meaning a trip to the UK for a fight against the 34-year-old Froch.

Hearn said this on his twitter “Despite speculation, Carl Froch vs. Bute is Not a done deal yet. I am hopeful of getting it made though so stay tuned.”

Let me be the first to say that while I respect Froch if chooses to fight the 32-year-old Bute, I think it’s really bad idea on so many levels. It’s a risky gamble for Froch that has very little chance to succeed. In a head to head fight, I would give Froch a decent chance of beating Bute. But that’s not how the Canadian based Bute fights. He doesn’t come out slugging in a primitive fashion. He will slug if he’s got a patsy in front of him, but against guys with power, Bute likes to hit and retreat all night long. That’s what he does best, and it’s frustrating as heck to watch, and it’s got to be even worse for the guy trying to fight him.

Froch isn’t exactly quick on his feet or fast of hand, so I see him having so many problems against Bute that it’s not even funny. It’s just not a good fight for a slow guy like Froch. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the guys that can beat Bute are blazing fast fighters like the Dirrell bothers – Andre and Anthony – and WBA/WBC super middleweight champion Andre Ward.

It takes quick guys with good hand speed, quick feet, good punching power and good accuracy to beat the Bute types. Froch’s too slow to get the job done. I know Hearn must want to put the fight together between Bute and Froch pretty badly, but if I’m Froch, I’d tell Hearn he can go fight Bute if he’s so hot for that fight. I’d look for a nice safe tune-up and then go after the winner of the Mikkel Kessler vs. Robert Stieglitz fight. That’s the better option. Save Bute for the Dirrell brothers and Ward; they’ll know how to catch up to him and stop him.
 
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Devon Alexander’s trainer hoping Devon can fight Berto-Ortiz II winner
February 29th, 2012

By Dan Ambrose: Devon Alexander (23-1, 13 KO’s) and his trainer are hoping to take their success in beating Marcos Maidana last Saturday night and use that to take on the winner of the June 23rd rematch between Andre Berto and Victor Ortiz.

Alexander’s trainer Kevin Cunningham told RingTV “The only thing that makes sense is for Devon to fight the winner of Ortiz-Berto. That’s the fight we’re looking for. Everybody’s going to call out Floyd Mayweather and Pacquiao, but the realistic goal for us would be the winner of Ortiz-Berto. Title or no title, that’s a big fight, and those are the types of fights we’re interested in.”

There’s a possibility that this fight can be made if the Berto vs. Ortiz II winner can’t land a fight against Mayweather or Pacquiao. However, there’s a good chance the winner of the Berto-Ortiz fight will get at least one of those guys.

The negative I see about Berto or Ortiz fighting Alexander is he clinches WAY too much and it makes it difficult to fight him. If you’ve got Alexander dive bombing to clinch after each time he throws a punch, that’s a difficult fighting style to take on. It’s like facing Bernard Hopkins or John Ruiz. If a referee isn’t going to keep Alexander in check for clinching over 10 times per round, it slows the fight down to a crawl and pretty much turns into a game whoever lands the first punch before the clinch wins. That’s terrible boxing. If I was Berto or Ortiz, I wouldn’t choose to fight Alexander unless he changes his style and starts grabbing a whole lot less and I don’t think he’s going to do that. Alexander was effective with his clinch and grab technique against Marcos Maidana, but I think he should lost a lot of points for the grabbing as well for the rabbit punches he threw.

I think Berto or Ortiz should forget about Alexander and look to fight a more exciting opponent that actually fights and doesn’t cling all over you all night long looking to smother your offense with MMA-like grabbing. If I were Berto or Ortiz, I’d put Alexander on permanent ignore and look to fight someone like Mayweather, Pacquiao, Amir Khan, or Kell Brook. Those guys don’t clinch 24/7.
 
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Warren unhappy with Chisora ban by WBC
February 29th, 2012

By William Mackay: Promoter Frank Warren isn’t pleased with the indefinite ban plus fine given given to his fighter Dereck Chisora by the World Boxing Council yesterday. Warren feels that there should have been a formal hearing by the WBC so that his fighter could have been able to say his side of the story.

Warren said to SKy Sports News “Somebody arbitrarily saying ‘You’re banned’ can’t be any form of natural justice. Even the police in Germany let Dereck go after questioning. A lot of things happened behind the scenes. There were some things which he did which absolutely were wrong and he should have done, and I’m not condoning that. But at the end of the day, you’re entitled to a hearing before anybody makes a decision.”

It sounds reasonable what Warren is saying, but the WBC President Jose Sulaiman has a lot of say in the organization and I get the feeling whatever he determines ends up as a slam dunk. He already said last week that Chisora would likely be fined, banned and wouldn’t be permitted to be unbanned until he enrolled and completed an anger management class. That’s what’s happening here. Chisora will no doubt have to complete an anger management program before the ban is lifted. As for the fine, there’s no getting around that unfortunately.

Chisora’s problem is that everything he did – slapping Vitali Klitschko, spitting water into the face of Wladimir Klitschko, and making threats to David Haye after their post fight brawl – was caught on television. None of it was here say. Sure, Chisora could have come to a hearing and tried to explain his reasons for slapping Vitali, spitting on Wladimir, and saying he wanted to shoot and burn Haye, but I think it would have been tough for Chisora to convince anyone that he was innocent. I can only imagine what Chisora’s excuses would be. He already said he slapped Vitali because he was upset that Wladimir had twice pulled out of fights with him for an injury. Chisora also said that he spit water in Wladimir’s face because he gave him grief about his hand wraps before his fight with Vitali. However, those obviously good enough reasons for a person to spit in someone’s face or slap them. I think a formal hearing might have ended with the same results unless Chisora had a new spin he could come up with to explain his actions. I kind of doubt that there can be anything said that would explain those behaviors.
 
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Mayweather: I want eight-ounce gloves for Cotto; I want blood
February 29th, 2012

By Dan Ambrose: Floyd Mayweather Jr. wants to inflict maximum punishment against WBA light middleweight champion Miguel Cotto when he faces him on May 5th in Las Vegas. Mayweather is asking for 8-ounce gloves, which are known as the puncher’s gloves. Those are light gloves that are excellent for getting those most out of your punches and for knocking guys out.

Mayweather said this as quoted by Ringtv: “Against De La Hoya, they gave me heavyweight gloves. They gave me 10-ounce gloves. We are requesting eight ounce gloves for this one. Hopefully, we can get them. We want blood, sweat and tears for this one.”

Mayweather no doubt wants to take advantage of all that scar tissue situated around both of Cotto’s eyes he’s received during his many battles inside the ring. Cotto is known for having soft skin that tears quickly when punches for three or four rounds. Mayweather obviously wants to see Cotto bleeding and near blind from the blood leaking into his eyes from cuts around the eye or eyebrow area.

It’s smart of Mayweather to ask for those gloves, because if he can get Cotto bleeding even from one cut above his eyes, then the battle will be half won. Cotto doesn’t fight well when he’s cut and seems to panic and star running. Since he doesn’t have good stamina, it never works out well for him because he gets tired and takes a beating.

Mayweather likely won’t have to fight Cotto on the glove issue because Cotto will cave in on this because it benefits him as well, because he hits harder than Mayweather with either hand and has a better jab. But it won’t help him if he can’t land his punches due to Mayweather’s excellent defense. And it won’t help Cotto if his skins tears quickly from Mayweather’s shots in the first couple of rounds resulting in him running for the remainder of the fight. Mayweather is a smart guy.
 
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Arum advises Manny to ignore Mayweather
February 29th, 2012

By John F. McKenna (McJack): Top Rank CEO Bob Arum is advising Filipino icon World Boxing Organization (WBO) welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao (54-3-2, 38 KO’s) to ignore anything undefeated superstar WBC welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26 KO’s) says regarding putting together a mega bucks fight between the pair.

Arum was quoted in the Manila Standard saying:

“The best thing to do is just ignore him” (Mayweather).

Speaking of Mayweather’s offer to give Manny $40 million dollars while keeping the balance of the revenue brought in from a Pacquiao – Mayweather fight, including the Pay Per View (PPV), Arum said:

“He (Mayweather) does not really want to fight Manny” pointing to the low offer from Mayweather as evidence that he does not want to engage “Pacman” in the ring.

It is thought by boxing insiders that the PPV income alone for a Pacquiao – Mayweather fight would bring in upwards of $160 million.

Mayweather in recent statements has indicated that for a fight between himself and Pacquiao to take place, Arum would have to go. Pacquiao has indicated to the media that the $40 million offer he received from Mayweather was embarrassing and that he felt Floyd was attempting to take advantage of him.

Mayweather was also quoted in the Manila Standard speaking of Miguel Cotto’s loss to Pacquiao in November 2009:

“He (Cotto) lost to someone who cheated and wasn’t at his best against Pacquiao.”

Speaking of himself in the 3rd person Mayweather said: “at the end of the day Floyd Mayweather is not a cheater.”

Mayweather neglected to mention that when he fought Juan Manuel Marquez he had agreed to come into the ring at 145 pounds and instead weighed in at 147 pounds. “Money” paid a fine of $600,000 for the infraction. To make matters worse Floyd refused the usual weigh in on fight night and reportedly came into the ring 15 to 20 pounds over the limit.

Floyd still clings to the notion of random drug testing as a reason that a fight between himself and Pacquiao has not happened as if that was still an issue. Clearly the random drug testing issue was put to bed months ago, leaving Mayweather to come up with additional excuse and interchange them as he sees fit. It seems that the chief excuse that Mayweather now uses is his insistence that no one gets a 50/50 deal with Floyd Mayweather. This is also a ludicrous excuse when it is taken into account that Pacquiao has won championships in eight weight divisions in addition to being named Fighter of the Decade by boxing writers for the years from 2000 to 2009. In addition based on their last three fights, Manny has actually outsold Floyd on PPV as well as the live gate.

When asked whether or not he thought that a Pacquiao – Mayweather fight would ever happen Floyd snapped: “Absolutely not.”
 
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It’s Official: Froch Vs. Bute May 26th, Nottingham U.K!

By James Slater - It has just been announced that unbeaten IBF super-middleweight king Lucian Bute will travel to former two-time WBC ruler Carl Froch’s hometown of Nottingham to defend his belt on May 26th. A massive fight - one that has been in the works for some time - Bute-Froch is about as good as it gets in today’s talent-rich 168-pound weight class.

“It’s a dream come true to get this opportunity to become a three-time world champion in my hometown of Nottingham,” Froch said today.

“This is a great challenge and Lucian will perform to his fullest as he always does,” Bute’s trainer Stephan Larouche said.

A 50-50 fight that could end either by savage KO or could go the full 12-rounds, May 26th’s bout is sure to be a thriller. The styles of the two men involved all but guarantees this, and the IBF title clash will add to a boxing calendar that is already looking like one of the best 12 months in quite a while. The best fighting the best is what it’s all about, and Andre Ward aside, the winner of Froch-Bute will emerge as the best 168-pounder in the world.

Both men and their teams deserve a ton of credit for making this fight possible. Bute deserves extra credit for agreeing to come to Nottingham. Then again, road warrior Froch sure is deserving of a fight on home soil. I’ll bet he is as surprised as anyone that this home fight is one of such a large magnitude.

Froch had originally said he’d take a tune-up before his next big one. Will the fact that he will not do so affect his chances against southpaw Bute?
 
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Why is this such a joke fight? This is the best fighter that Bute has ever agreed to face in his entire career and he's considering leaving the confines of hometown crowds in Canada/Romania to do it. If he beats Froch twice and Ward keeps winning it would make for a big time fight against each other down the road.

Froch didn't all of a sudden become a scrub because he dropped a fight to the best fighter in his division.
 
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^ Not a joke fight by any means (I like the fight, and I've grown to be a fan of Froch) , but I was under the impression that the winner of the tournament was going to fight the man who many regarded as the best in that division.
 
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^ Not a joke fight by any means (I like the fight, and I've grown to be a fan of Froch) , but I was under the impression that the winner of the tournament was going to fight the man who many regarded as the best in that division.
I'd have to say that both men in the finals of the tournament surpassed Bute in the division. Multiple top 10 wins for both of them, Froch has wins over Pascal/Taylor/Dirrell/Abraham/Johnson, Ward doesn't need to be mentioned and Bute's best win is probably Andrade or Bika or and old Johnson?
 
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Juan M. Marquez announces retirement
The Mexican boxer Juan Manuel Marquez, lightweight champion of the World Boxing Organization, announced his retirement at the end of the year even if he's able to land a 4th fight against the pinnoy boxer Manny Pacquiao.

"We're retiring this year, it doesn't matter if we can get a 4th fight with Pacquiao. I have nothing else to prove, everyone knows what I'm capable of and I'm happily retiring" said Marquez this Thursday.

"I'm going to continue with my actual schedule, in April 14 or 21 we're possibly going to fight the Argentinian boxer Cesar Cuenca in Mexico City; in July I'll fight again and again in November, if it's against Pacquiao great, if not then no problem"


Marquez pointed out that he set this year for retirement so that Manny Pacquiao would accept a 4th fight. "But when he didn't accept it he already said that he was afraid, because if he wasn't the 4th fight would've been done right away"

The Mexican boxer, with a long 19 year boxing career ,said he's about to end his time at boxing.

"The time, the family and even me, with already 28 years in boxing, are asking for a new stage in my life. I'm looking to begin a new cycle while being at 100% and I'm very focused on the next stage of my life" said Marquez when being asked about a possible politic charge with Partido Revolucionario Institucional (PRI)

Marquez said that he still doesn't have a formal offer from PRI for an eventual candidature in the next 1st of July elections, in which there will be a change of over 600 legislators and 128 senators.

About the $29,910 pesos fine that was imposed by the Instituto Federal Electoral (IFE) for showing a political party emblem (The PRI logotype) in his fight against Manny Pacquiao last year, he said that IFE would reconsider it and finally remove that fine.

"We're not happy and we're going to fight" said Marquez.

Source: ESPN Deportes
 
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Juan M. Marquez announces retirement
The Mexican boxer Juan Manuel Marquez, lightweight champion of the World Boxing Organization, announced his retirement at the end of the year even if he's able to land a 4th fight against the pinnoy boxer Manny Pacquiao.

"We're retiring this year, it doesn't matter if we can get a 4th fight with Pacquiao. I have nothing else to prove, everyone knows what I'm capable of and I'm happily retiring" said Marquez this Thursday.

"I'm going to continue with my actual schedule, in April 14 or 21 we're possibly going to fight the Argentinian boxer Cesar Cuenca in Mexico City; in July I'll fight again and again in November, if it's against Pacquiao great, if not then no problem"


Marquez pointed out that he set this year for retirement so that Manny Pacquiao would accept a 4th fight. "But when he didn't accept it he already said that he was afraid, because if he wasn't the 4th fight would've been done right away"

The Mexican boxer, with a long 19 year boxing career ,said he's about to end his time at boxing.

"The time, the family and even me, with already 28 years in boxing, are asking for a new stage in my life. I'm looking to begin a new cycle while being at 100% and I'm very focused on the next stage of my life" said Marquez when being asked about a possible politic charge with Partido Revolucionario Institucional (PRI)

Marquez said that he still doesn't have a formal offer from PRI for an eventual candidature in the next 1st of July elections, in which there will be a change of over 600 legislators and 128 senators.

About the $29,910 pesos fine that was imposed by the Instituto Federal Electoral (IFE) for showing a political party emblem (The PRI logotype) in his fight against Manny Pacquiao last year, he said that IFE would reconsider it and finally remove that fine.

"We're not happy and we're going to fight" said Marquez.

Source: ESPN Deportes
damn this came out of no where
 
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Journeyman” Sonny Boy Jaro Scores Massive Upset, Stops Ring Magazine, WBC Flyweight King Pongsaklek Wongjongkam In 6th-Round

By James Slater - Yesterday in his native Thailand, defending WBC and Ring Magazine flyweight king Pongsaklek Wongjongkam was the victim a a huge upset, courtesy of Filipino challenger Sonny Boy Jaro. Seen as a straightforward fight going in, the Thai southpaw was instead dropped heavily in the opening round, again in the 3rd and then stopped in the 6th..

Already writers are referring to the win the 29-year-old scored as one of the biggest upsets in boxing history. Certainly, we will see no bigger upset this year (unless Jean Marc Mormeck does the unthinkable on Saturday night!).

Now 34-10-5(24), Jaro had previously failed in WBC and WBA light-flyweight title challenges - losing a wide 12-round decision to Edgar Sosa in 2008 and being halted inside a single round by Giovani Segura in 2009. The powerful yet somewhat crude and vulnerable puncher had won his last four going into yesterday’s title challenger (all by KO) yet he was given absolutely no chance by the fans and experts.

Now a genuine hero in his homeland, Jaro, shocked the hell out of the ultra-accomplished Wongjongkam - a Pound-for-Pound entrant who won the WBC flyweight title all the way back in 2001 and who retained it no less than seventeen times before losing it and then regaining it, and who has not lost since 2007 - with his sheer aggression and punching power.

Fans of the lower weight classes will be talking about this one for a long, long time. Up there, in terms of massive upsets, with the Douglas-Tyson stunner and the Rahman-Lewis sensation, Jaro’s win over the 34-year-old will unfortunately get only a fraction of the press those two heavyweight upsets received.

It is to be hoped the gutsy Jaro can make some good money for as long as he manages to defend his new crown. His reign may not last too long, but for now massive congratulations go out to this warrior with the never say die attitude!

Former king Wongjongkam is now 83-4-2(44). His last stoppage defeat (just his second in total) took place way back in 1996, in what was just the Thai’s 11th pro outing.
 
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Jermain Taylor vs. Caleb Truax a possibility for mid-April on Showtime
March 2nd, 2012

By Jim Dower: Former WBC/WBO middleweight champion Jermain Taylor (29-4-1, 18 KO’s) may not be facing Joachim Alcine next after all. According to Steve Kim on his twitter, Taylor could be facing little known 2nd tier middleweight Caleb Truax (18-0, 10 KO’s) in mid-April in a fight that will be televised on Showtime.

You can ignore the 28-year-old Truax’s unbeaten record because he’s a very limited fighter and has beaten exclusively 2nd tier opposition. Truax’s best wins of his five year pro career have come against Andy Kolle, Jonathan Reid, Antwun Echols and Robert Kliewer. In looking at Truax’s fights one can’t help but notice his lack of defense right off that bat. He get hit cleanly quite frequently when his opposition is looking to unload on him. His power is average and his hand speed slow. He’s a pretty limited guy and I see him as a step down from Taylor’s last Jessie Nicklow, who Taylor stopped in the 8th round last December.

Taylor made his comeback last December with the Nicklow win. Before that, Taylor hadn’t fought since being stopped in the 12th round by Arthur Abraham in October 2009. Taylor’s foot work and offensive skills looked by and large the same as they were before his loss to Abraham. However, he didn’t show any signs of fading during the fight which he had been having problems with leading up to his loss to Abraham. However, Nicklow didn’t have the power or the speed to really bother him in this fight. Taylor was basically able to set the pace and do whatever he wanted to do.

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