Boxing News Thread

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Mayweather Jr. says Khan does too much running and holding, thinks he should have been disqualified in last fight
February 1st, 2012

By William Mackay: Former IBF/WBA light welterweight champion Amir Khan may find it difficult trying to land a big money fight against WBC welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr., as he’s not particularly impressed with Khan’s fighting style, according to fighthype.com. This would be a huge blow to Khan if Mayweather decides he doesn’t want any part of fighting him because Khan is moving up in weight to 147 just to try and get a fight with Mayweather.

Indeed, Mayweather thought that Khan should have been disqualified during his last fight against Lamont Peterson last December for Khan’s “Running and holding.”

Here’s what Mayweather said to fighthype.com: “I don’t know too much about Amir Khan. I think he does too much running and holding. I honestly feel he should have got disqualified.”

Ouch! Mayweather Jr. is likely talking about where Khan was grabbing Peterson’s head and pulling down on it all night, as well as putting him in headlocks and shoving him around the ring. Oddly enough, the head pulling down never resulted in one penalization from the referee, but there were frequent warnings for this foul.

What eventually cost Khan points was his constant shoving of Peterson when he would get in close to try and fight on the inside. Boxers use this foul from time to time, but Khan was doing it quite frequently against Peterson and was ignoring the referee when he warning him that he needed to stop. If it wasn’t Khan shoving, it was him grabbing Peterson by the back of the head and then yanking him forward where Khan would often lean down with his chin on Peterson’s back while holding his head down with both hands. It looked completely dirty it was a wonder that the referee allowed because Peterson said it caused his back to really tighten up due to Khan doing this maneuver so frequently. It seemed pretty clear that Khan was using these fouls to escape the inside pressure from Peterson, as Khan didn’t have the inside fighting skills to compete with Peterson in close and had to use the shoving to create distance and/or the head pulling down bit to stymie Peterson’s attacks. It was like a boxer facing a wrestler at times, and it’s scary to think that Khan has gotten away with these kinds of fouls in past fights.

Leonard Ellerbe, the CEO of Mayweather Promotions, said “No,” when someone asked if Mayweather would be okay with fighting a rematch against Victor Ortiz on May 5th. Ortiz suddenly finds himself without an opponent after his previously scheduled February 11th opponent Andre Berto suffered a ruptured left bicep that caused him to postpone the fight date. Mayweather already beat Ortiz by a 4th round TKO last September.

Mayweather said he might be open to fighting Ortiz in the future after he picks up some good victories. It’s unclear how many wins Ortiz would have to chock up and against what kinds of opponents that Mayweather would find acceptable. Ortiz could lose to good fighters if he faces someone too good. Right now it’s looking like Ortiz will be out of action for at least half of 2012 while he waits for the winner of the Devon Alexander vs. Marcos Maidana fight to emerge.

 

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Cotto: I’ll beat Mayweather Jr. on May 5th
February 1st, 2012

By Jason Kim: WBA junior middleweight champion Miguel Cotto (37-2, 30 KO’s) likes his chances against mega star Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26 KO’s) in their huge clash on May 5th, and feels he’s he’ll come out on top in this fight.

Cotto said this on his twitter today: “I’m back in the ring on May 5th, and I will beat him [Mayweather].”

Mayweather Jr. will be facing arguably the best fighter at 154lbs in Cotto, and this is going to be a fight for Cotto’s World Boxing Association title at full weight. It’s going to be asking a lot for Mayweather Jr. to win this bout.

Cotto will have the advantage in power over Mayweather. He’ll also have the much better jab of the two. What Mayweather brings to the table in this fight is speed and a lot of it. He’s got much faster hands and is harder to hit. Cotto won’t beat Mayweather by trying to box him the way that Cotto did with his last two opponents Ricardo Mayorga and Antonio Margarito. He’s going to have to take the fight to Mayweather and try to break him down with pressure.

Cotto is never short on confidence and hasn’t lost a fight since his defeat against Manny Pacquiao in 2009. There are some people who feel that Cotto would still be undefeated today if not for his controversial fight with Antonio Margarito in 2008, where some boxing fans felt that Margarito may have beaten Cotto with loaded hand wraps. There’s no proof of that happening but that’s what a lot of fans think. In Cotto’s fight with Pacquiao in 2009, Cotto was pressured into agreeing to fight the Filipino star at a catchweight of 145lbs, which as turns out, weakened Cotto for this fight. Cotto would have stood a much better chance without the catchweight, but he was really fighting at too light of weight anyway, because Cotto should have been fighting at 154 even back then. Now he’s at the right weight and it’s going to be interesting to see how well he does against Mayweather

 

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Mayweather one-ups Arum again!

By Robert Jackson: The just announced the Mayweather/Cotto fight scheduled for May 5, 2012, has to be a shocker to Top Rank boss Bob Arum. In the days preceding this announcement, Top Rank was dangling Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. like a carrot or piece of raw meat in front of Cotto face to keep him from bolting the Top Rank camp for greener pastures.

What greener pastures you might ask??
Pastures including Canelo Alvarez, James Kirkland, Alfredo Angulo while also making available to Cotto other fighters associated with Mayweather advisor and confidant Al Haymon – a man who Bob Arum refers to as Machiavelli because of his penchant as a tight negotiator.

Pacquiao’s 147lb weight request along with Arum’s steadfast support of Antonio Margarito probably played a part in Cotto’s acceptance to fight Mayweather. But most likely Mayweather’s shrewd dealings regarding an expected Pacquiao fight led Floyd to select Cotto. By selecting Cotto, Floyd all but forced Pacquiao’s hand in the direction of Juan Manuel Marquez, because at this point, Timothy Bradley and Lamont Peterson have limited drawing power and fan appeal.

Mayweather also takes some food off of the Top Rank table by snatching Cotto from the hands that previously fed him. Arum can’t be too happy to be missing out on some of that Mayweather/Cotto money. I wouldn’t be surprised if a promotional law suit is filed by Top Rank against Cotto just to postpone that fight.

In any case kudos to Mayweather and Cotto who at this time will be fighting on May 5, 2012

 

[heyzel]

Boxing: Not Dead Yet

By James Creed: Pundits and long-time fans of the sport have a tendency to look back on the past with determined reverence. They were the good times. Boxing had superstars that were household names amongst even non-fight fans.

Championship fights were highly anticipated and reported globally. We experienced so-called ‘Golden Eras’ of boxing, considered to be so laden with talent and personality that debates regarding mythical matches with Past vs. Present boxers invariably end with today’s fighters being pummelled to a bloody pulp.

Boxing fans are drunk on nostalgia, and that’s hardly surprising - who wouldn’t look to the past for comfort when we’re being bombarded by pessimistic coverage of the sport from every angle?

These reports make for grim reading. According to many observers the sport is either in decline, in its death throes, or already dead. Statements such as “boxing will continue to die a slow death” and “boxing is a dying sport” are rarely accompanied with an explanation of what is meant by ‘death’ and ‘dying’, but as these statements are often framed with reference to the success of the UFC, or to boxing’s floundering heavyweight division, I take it to mean the death of interest in the sport as a whole.

The reasons that are cited for this are well documented. Some blame the rapidly increasing popularity of mixed martial arts, capturing the attention of the young male demographic which boxing has struggled to attract for many years. Some point to boxing’s flagship heavyweight division as being depressingly stagnant and largely devoid of talent, the fighters’ lack of dedication evidenced by out-of-shape bodies and slow, ungainly skills. The plethora of weight classes is often criticised, with entire weight divisions housing contenders who nobody - besides the most ardent of boxing fans - has heard of. Greedy alphabet organisations like the WBC are also a target, with their focus on creating new belts (most recently the ‘Diamond’ Belt) with such alarming regularity one wonders if WBC President José Sulaimán spends his days gleefully pointing at a periodic table, determining the names of the next championship belts to bleed yet more sanctioning fees out of fighters.
All of this is enough to make even the most passionate boxing fan lose hope. Surely a fragmented, corrupt and expensive-to-watch sport is destined for failure?

Not so. Looking back on 2011, the reported numbers of people watching the sport offer a welcome reprieve from the doom and gloom. Four out of the top ten best-selling pay-per-views were boxing events. Manny Pacquiao led the way with two fights last year exceeding well over 2 million buys, followed by Floyd Mayweather Jr against Victor Ortiz and the grudge match between Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito. These four fights alone netted a cool 4.36 million buys. To put this in context, the UFC put on sixteen pay-per-view events in 2011 and managed 6.79 million buys. Clearly then, boxing still sells, with millions willing to shell out as much as $65 for the privilege of seeing their favourite fighters compete, even in these lean economic times.
As reassuring as it is to see these figures, these numbers were largely reliant on the popularity of boxing’s few remaining ‘big names’. Right now, the only active fighters coming close to or breaking the 1 million buy mark are Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. With their unique combination of incredible achievements, magnetic personalities and interesting lives outside of the ring (for better or worse) they will be a hard act to follow. Contrast this to UFC which, while not breaking a million buys with any single event last year, was much more consistent in posting good numbers with a broader range of talent headlining its events. With not long left on the clock for boxing’s pay-per-view kings, there is a need for new talent to emerge capable of attracting these audiences.

Promoters and networks have been hit-and-miss in recent times with nurturing new talent, but the signs are mostly encouraging. HBO have done well in showcasing the talents of the gifted Gary Russell Jr., who even at this early stage is generating a lot of excitement with his speed and aptitude for combination punching. Saul Alvarez also stands out, with a loyal and vocal Mexican fanbase, humble beginnings and good looks he seems a shoe-in for boxing fame. While today’s current crop of popular fighters are mostly on the wrong side of thirty, their eventual retirements will force promoters to invest more time and money into nurturing the next generation of top tier fighters.

Beyond pay-per-view, boxing continued to demonstrate it had a pulse by achieving consistently decent ratings for staples such as HBO’s Boxing After Dark, World Championship Boxing and ESPN Friday Fight Nights. While these numbers pale in comparison to sports beyond the fringes, the consistency in the numbers and quality of the fights has been encouraging. Viewing figures outside of North America are also strong, which is a testament to the globalisation of the sport. Viewing figures in Europe are positive, a good example being the Klitschko vs. Haye bout reaching a reported audience of 16 million people in Germany alone. Mainstays like Mexico, Puerto Rico, Australia, Cuba and the Philippines continue to maintain large fan bases, some treating their boxing stars as national heroes. It’s very easy to forget the sheer popularity of some ‘foreign’ fighters when there is such a narrow focus on what is happening inside US borders.

There are more positive signs with the number of outlets to watch boxing increasing, with new shows such as NBC sports Fight Night Series and - for UK fans - the introduction of dedicated boxing channel BoxNation. The internet is also being increasingly used as a medium to broadcast boxing, giving fans and new audiences alike more opportunities than ever to watch the sport.

Frustratingly, however, boxing still doesn’t have a home on network television while the forward thinking Dana White has struck a deal with Fox, allowing the UFC to bring fights into the living rooms of mainstream audiences. But instead of this being a reason for pessimism, I think it’s a positive sign that combat sport is popular enough to warrant that level of exposure, hopefully paving the way for boxing getting back on network TV in the future.

I would argue that there are countless observers who have a loose definition of what is considered to be a ‘dying’ sport. I see an Olympic-worthy sport that still generates hundreds of millions of dollars, watched by millions globally, being practiced by hundreds of thousands of people around the world. It’s a no-brainer to say the sport isn’t as popular as it used to be, and that the depth of top-tier talent is not what it once it was, but to say its dying is sensationalist at best. For all the problems endemic in the sport, it still sells. Floyd Mayweather is going to prison for beating a woman, Manny Pacquiao has refused random drug testing with little to no reasoning and Antonio Margarito attempted to walk to the ring with plaster in his wraps. All three men were involved in the highest selling fights of 2011. I suspect this would be unheard of in most other sports, where any of these issues would be enough to have a seriously negative impact on a career.

However, boxing seems to occupy a unique space in the sporting world where controversy, corruption and lack of any unified structure have become so endemic that the public’s expectations have changed to accommodate it. We are outraged when judges clearly declare the loser of a bout the winner, we complain when promoters like Bob Arum keep all their fights in-house - stopping some of the best matches being made - and we despair at the lacklustre heavyweight division. However, judges continue to be bought, Bob Arum makes more money than ever as we resign ourselves to our most desired matchups not being made, and we respond to the heavyweight slump by shifting our attention to the lower weight classes.

In spite of this, we continue to shell out extortionate sums of money so we can continue to watch the sport. This suits those at the top, and feeds into a top-heavy structure in which vast amounts of money are carved up between the networks, large promotional outfits, and the most popular fighters, while everyone else just gets by. Bob Arum offering Floyd Mayweather a flat fee of $45 million for a fight with Pacquiao as, believe it or not, an ‘insulting’ gesture whilst the vast majority of professional boxers are carving up purses of a few thousand dollars is a testament to this. I personally don’t believe that this over-reliance on a few individuals generating a vast portion of money in boxing is a sustainable model in the long term whilst the problems I’ve listed persist to this degree. But as long as apathy over these issues continues, and there are a few fighters with significant earning power, the sport will continue on this uneasy plateau while the media prattles on about the death of boxing.

 

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Koncz: Floyd declined proposed fight deal
February 1st, 2012

By Frank (Frankly) Livingstone: Now that the proposed Pacquiao Mayweather is off for now (Ho Hum), news and comments of the coming Mayweather and Cotto fight on May 5 is jamming this website.

But what aroused my interest is a comment from Pacquiao’s manager, Michael Koncz, who met privately with Mayweather in Las Vegas of his final offer to Floyd. Michael offered, with Pacquiao’s approval, a 55-45 split of fight revenues, with the fight’s winner gathering the larger percentage. He further added to the LA Times “Because it’s a prize fight, if you were a better fighter, you will bet the 10% bonus. That was my final offer, with a $50 million guarantee to each fighter. That was rejected.”

Both fighters can earn more fighting each other than fighting anyone else in their career. Money and enough of it should be a big incentive to make this happen, or is it? Some fighters care about their legacy more than what they can earn in the fight. You have Ali, Frazier and other legends who fight the best in their era. And there are other fighters who care about protecting their legacy by cherry picking their fighters. Both Pacquiao and Mayweather have been accused of this.

The offer made by Koncz was indeed fair and a number of boxing fans in this website even suggested it. The question is why did Floyd Mayweather Jr. decline the offer? But of course, the purse split is not the only obstacle; we still have the dates and venue to be decided by both parties. Pacquiao made his intention known and willing to fight Mayweather on a 50:50 split or the proposed fight prize deal. However, refusing a 50:50 split or Koncz winner takes the bigger purse deal is not a good sign that Floyd is willing to take the high risk/high return road in establishing his legacy. Who is cherry picking then?

 

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Koncz: If Cotto said 148 for Pacquiao catchweight, we probably would have agreed to it
February 1st, 2012

By Chris Williams: Michael Koncz, the advisor for WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao, told ESPN writer Dan Rafael that he was shocked to learn that former Top Rank fighter WBA junior middleweight champion Miguel Cotto has signed on to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. for May 5th because he thought that he was going to be still available.

Pacquiao’s promoter Bob Arum had been trying to get a fight arranged between Cotto and Pacquiao but they reached a sticking point because Cotto didn’t want to fight Pacquiao at 147 and instead would only go as low as 150 to make the fight happen.

Koncz told ESPN “We expected Mayweather to be off the table. I didn’t expect Cotto would be. I thought he was playing hardball over the weight issue. Cotto wouldn’t agree to come below 150 pounds. We wanted 147. Had he said 148? We probably could have gotten that done.”

So in other words, Cotto would have come down six whole pounds from 154 [Cotto’s fight weight in the junior middleweight division], while Pacquiao would have to only gain one pound? That’s not much of a bargain, is it? Pacquiao only budges one pound upwards while Cotto has to lose six pounds to make the fight happen.

If that’s what Koncz considers a fair negotiation then what’s the point of the catchweight if Pacquiao is only going to move one pound? I see an offer like this as an insult and to Cotto’s credit; he never budged from his offer of 150. That’s more than fair because he’s giving four pounds and Pacquiao only three. I like that deal a lot better than Cotto having to lose pounds and Pacquiao just has to gain one. If that’s how they do negotiations with fighters then I can see why Cotto decided to move on and face Mayweather instead.

 

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Pacquiao-Bradley fight could be finalized this weekend, says Arum
February 1st, 2012

By Chris Williams: Top Rank promoter Bob Arum could have a June 9th fight between Tim Bradley and Manny Pacquiao finalized this weekend, according to RingTV. Arum promotes both Bradley and Pacquiao so there shouldn’t be any issues.

The fight will likely be a lot easier to make now that Arum’s main target Miguel Cotto is no longer available for the Pacquiao fight due to Cotto signing to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. on May 5th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Arum told RingTV “We’re holding the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. It’s [Pacquiao-Bradley] not finalized yet, but they’re both our fighters, and we’re hoping that we can get it done, and we think that we can get it done.”

The odd thing about that is Michael Koncz, Pacquiao’s advisor, is saying that Pacquiao may not be fighting Bradley. He’s saying that Juan Marquez, Lamont Peterson and Bradley are all still under consideration. I don’t know if this is some kind of trickery from Koncz or maybe he’s on the margins and not really privy to what’s going on with Arum and Pacquiao in picking out the Filipino star’s next fight.

It was assumed that Top Rank wasn’t interested in Marquez because he didn’t want to fight in Las Vegas and he also wanted a bigger payday than he got last time he fought Pacquiao last November. Marquez also brings great danger because a lot of people still think he should have been given the decision in the Pacquiao last November.

Bradley will be the one that gets picked for Pacquiao’s next fight. It makes a lot of sense and he’s really the only one left now. It’s not a big fight but it’ll bring in enough money to keep Arum and Pacquiao happy. With Pacquiao’s built in fan base, he could fight anyone in Arum’s Top Rank stable and still do really well even though a lot of fighters are starting to fade.

 

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Arum holding Cowboys Stadium for Marquez-Peterson on July 14th
February 1st, 2012

By William Mackay: Bob Arum has made a formal offer to IBF/WBA light welterweight champion Lamont Peterson and his manager/trainer Barry Hunter for a fight against Juan Manuel Marquez on July 14th at the Cowboy’s Stadium in Arlington, Texas.

This will be a pay-per-view bout and it would be part of Arum’s four fight tournament with Manny Pacquiao presumably facing another one of Arum’s Top Rank fighters Timothy Bradley in the other fight in the tourney. The winners of the two fights will meet up in November.

Although it’s doubtful that Arum’s offer is as good financially for Peterson as the $1.5 million rematch offer he received from Golden Boy Promotions recently for Peterson to fight a rematch against Amir Khan, Peterson will have the opportunity to fight Pacquiao if he can get by Bradley in their fight will likely take place in June. That’s the incentive for Peterson and he would have to work hard to get it rather than the automatic money he’d receive if he agrees to a rematch with Khan.

Arum told RingTV “We haven’t made a deal yet, but I talked to Barry this morning and hopefully, that will come together for July 14. Hopefully, we’ll be able to conclude July 14 for Cowboys Stadium. We’re holding Cowboys Stadium for the Marquez-Peterson fight.”

One other way that Arum will make it financially closer to the deal that Peterson would get for the Khan rematch is that he wants Peterson to take an easy fight before the Marquez fight so that he could slip in another payday before his fight with Marquez.

Peterson is said to be favoring the Khan rematch right now but that could change if Arum increases the offer. He clearly needs Peterson to be part of his tourney and is going to have to make it worthwhile for him to walk away from the hefty offer that Golden Boy made for the Khan rematch.

 

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Mayweather: I’m fighting Cotto because Miss PacMan is ducking me
February 1st, 2012

By Chris Williams: If he had his preference, Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26 KO’s) would have much rather been fighting Manny Pacquiao on May 5th rather than WBA junior middleweight champion Miguel Cotto (37-2, 30 KO’s) at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Mayweather, 34, had to settle for fighting Cotto after Pacquiao and his promoter Bob Arum presented a series of obstacles that eventually were too much for Mayweather to surpass.

Mayweather said this on his twitter page today about Pacquiao not fighting him: “I’m fighting Miguel Cotto on May 5th because Miss Pac Man is ducking me.”

I hate to say it but I completely agree with Mayweather. I think Pacquiao doesn’t want any part of fighting Mayweather, because all things that Pacquiao has said leaves me with a strong impression that he’s ducking the out. You’ve got Pacquiao agreeing with his promoter Bob Arum that the fight can’t be made because it needs to be put in a larger venue. You also have Pacquiao saying he’d take less to fight Mayweather, but then when Mayweather Jr. agrees to fight him at a larger cut of the revenue, Pacquiao then changes his mind and says he wants a 50-50 deal. It’s like Pacquiao was saying no to the fight by changing the terms.

By Mayweather Jr. facing Cotto on May 5th, he takes away the biggest option available to Pacquiao for a big money fight. Pacquiao will have to settle for a fight against Timothy Bradley, which will make a lot less money than the Mayweather-Cotto fight.

RingTV did a poll today for who boxing fans wanted to see Mayweather Jr. fight next and Cotto came in at the top of the poll at 45.6%, and then after that came Saul Alvarez at 30.6%. Pacquiao obviously wasn’t a part of the poll otherwise he’d be the number #1 choice.

 

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Mayweather legacy will be tainted
February 1st, 2012

By John F. McKenna (McJack): In this writer’s opinion World Boxing Council (WBC) welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26 KO’s) is the elite fighter of this generation. His defensive skills are perhaps equal to any fighter of any generation. It is also probable that he would have been competitive to the past greats of the squared circle in any era.

The one drawback that may prevent Floyd from being compared to the super great fighters of the past such as such as Sugar Ray Robinson, Benny Leonard, Harry Grebb, Henry Armstrong, Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali is that “Money” Mayweather has been hesitant to test himself against the very top fighters of the current era.

That is not to suggest that Floyd would not have succeeded in beating the current crop of top fighters. But for a fighter of any era to be compared to the greats of previous eras, he must be willing to risk the danger of losing. The one area where Mayweather comes up short is that he has not tested himself against all comers.

When the great Joe Louis took the heavyweight crown from Jimmy Braddock, AKA “The Cinderella Man” in 1937 he said that he would be a fighting champion. “Bomber” Joe kept his word by defending his title a record 25 times. Another great from the late 1930’s and 1940’s Henry Armstrong fought all the great fighters of his era and is the only fighter in history to hold three titles simultaneously. “Homicide Hank” held the featherweight, lightweight and welterweight titles at the same time in an era when there were only eight divisions.

Harry Grebb and Benny Leonard are considered by boxing historians to be great champions and were not reluctant to test their skills against the very best fighters of their era. Muhammad Ali was willing to take on George Foreman when no one, not even his own handlers thought he could win. But Ali told people he could win, believed in himself and pulled it off.

Being a great fighter is more than having the skill to be a great fighter. It is that intangible thing of having the belief and courage to put oneself out there against the best. Fighting once every year or year and a half while he was in his prime will not endear Floyd Mayweather Jr. to future boxing historians.

If Mayweather were to land a fight with and defeat the other great fighter of his generation, WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao (54-3-2, 38 KO’s) it would go a long way towards securing Floyd’s legacy when comparing him to the all time greats. One must keep in mind that when analyzing the all time great fighters thirty years from now the emotions of current boxing fans will not be a factor.

 

[heyzel]

rip Angelo Dundee August 30, 1921-Februar 1, 2012 one of the best corner-man of all time

 

[2-0-Sixx]

oh damn, rip to one of the greatest.

 

[heyzel]

Pacquiao may regret that he didn’t accept the $40 million offer from Mayweather
February 1st, 2012

By Chris Williams: WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao turned down a huge $40 million offer from Floyd Mayweather Jr. for a May 5th that would give the Filipino star by far the biggest payday of his career.

It’s safe to say that Pacquiao will never make that kind of money in a single fight during what’s left of his career. Indeed, $40 million is roughly twice as much as what Pacquiao has been getting in his fights if you’re to believe the reports of him getting $20 million+ per fight. Pacquiao is walking away from the $40 million and will be lucky if he makes half of that in his next fight on June 9th against Timothy Bradley.

Is that smart? But here’s the thing: If Pacquiao loses to Bradley, then that $40 million payday against Mayweather will be a forgotten dream. Pacquiao will have given away that big payday out of desire to get even more money. Greed is so bad. It reminds of the fisherman that got three wishes and none of things he wished for satisfied his wife until they were absolutely penniless.

I think Pacquiao should have taken the money because Bradley is a real live dog in this fight and he could pull off a huge upset over Pacquiao and his days of getting big, big bucks.

Can you imagine Bob Arum putting Pacquiao on pay per view after he gets beaten by Bradley? It would be like putting some kind of old rerun on and trying to sell it as new ton people. Who’s going to want to watch Pacquiao after he gets spanked?

I know I wouldn’t, even if Arum discounted Pacquiao’s fight steeply to 99 cents. I wouldn’t pay a dime to see him if Bradley does him. That’s why Pacquiao blew it by not taking the big cash offer from Mayweather. Greed is not good.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

lol what a hypocrite Chris Williams is. will Floyd make $40 million against cotto? nope. I guess Floyd shouldn't have turned down 50/50.

 

[CZAR]

lol what a hypocrite Chris Williams is. will Floyd make $40 million against cotto? nope. I guess Floyd shouldn't have turned down 50/50.

Floyd is gonna make a lot against Cotto. Not sure if its 40 mill but it will be way more than what Pac will get against Bradley. Got Em!!

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Floyd is gonna make a lot against Cotto. Not sure if its 40 mill but it will be way more than what Pac will get against Bradley. Got Em!!

the points I make go way over your head for some reason man. smh

 

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Mayweather is going to make big money with Cotto. This might be Mayweathers biggest payday if the fight does 1.4million or better on PPV. I say it does 1.5million buys then Mayweather will make like $55-$65million. Why do you think Top Rank wanted Cotto so bad he's the 3rd top PPV fighter. And if Manny fights Bradley he better be ready for a war, because Bradley is going to bring it.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

obviously they didn't want Cotto THAT bad or they could have simply fought cotto at 150 pounds, which is what cotto offered. Pac says he's not fighting above 147 anymore and that was that.

It's a 65/35 split for Floyd-Cotto so it's impossible he makes over $50 million, unless this PPV does over 2.5 million PPV buys which it wont.

 

[JLMACN]

This PPV won't do 1.2 Million Buys....


If they don't put Good Mexican Fighter on the Same Card


5000

 

[2-0-Sixx]

it will probably do 1.2 million. I think 1.5 million is the best it can do. Remember Canelo is on the card too so that has to help at least a little bit, especially on cinco de mayo.

but yeah do the math if it does 1.5 million buys with a 65/35 split. Floyd may end up making more against Victor Ortiz since that was basically like a 90-10 split or a 95-5 spit.