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Video of Gamboa working the pads with his new trainer Emmanuel Steward in the Kronk gym
http://www.elnuevoherald.com/video/index.html?media_id=119809971
Video of Gamboa working the pads with his new trainer Emmanuel Steward in the Kronk gym
http://www.elnuevoherald.com/video/index.html?media_id=119809971
Pacquiao says he had foot cramps in Marquez fight
By Chris Williams: With the Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez fight now over with Pacquiao winning a controversial points decision last Saturday night, the excuses are already starting to pop up for why Pacquiao struggled so badly against the 38-year-old Marquez. You knew the excuses would come, but I didn’t expect them to happen so quickly from Pacquiao and his trainer Freddie Roach. One of the reasons Pacquiao looked so awful last night appeared to lose the fight by a comfortable margin was that he had foot cramps. Not sure what Pacquiao can do for his chronic cramps problem. Sure does sound like an excuse to me.
Pacquiao told Yahoo Sports “That was when it started [in the fourth round. I felt so bad that my balance was gone. Every time I threw a punch, I could feel it.”
I bet. I think Pacquiao is just getting old. I’m sure Marquez had his aches and pains but he’s not bringing them up because he’s not into making excuses. But then again, he has no reason to make any excuses. He fought beautifully against Pacquiao last night and deserved to win the fight.
Roach also came to Pacquiao’s rescue with the excuses, saying “It was difficult for Manny. His in and out motion was affected and he was coming in flatfooted. The pain started n his arches and then spread up to his calf.”
How sweet, Roach is making excuses for Pacquiao. Roach looked completely flummoxed at what to tell his fighter Pacquiao. You could see Roach spinning his mental gears but nothing he came up with seemed to help his fighter. In the end, Roach was jabbering away without any positive action from Pacquiao. And I figured that Roach and Pacquiao would come up with excuses after the fight and sure enough here we are with the excuses. How sad. I do buy that Pacquiao had some cramps but I don’t think there’s much you can do about it. Pacquiao is 32 now, and that’s when you start seeing your body act up on you, especially with the small fighters like Pacquiao. He’s getting old now and cramps are one way for your body to tell you that you’re not a spring chicken anymore. Pacquiao no jumps around like he used to, and that’s been like that for the past year and half. It didn’t just happen this fight. pacquiao has really lost his foot work, and that’s why Marquez had such as any time with him last night compared to the last two times he fought Pacquiao.
By Chris Williams: With the Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez fight now over with Pacquiao winning a controversial points decision last Saturday night, the excuses are already starting to pop up for why Pacquiao struggled so badly against the 38-year-old Marquez. You knew the excuses would come, but I didn’t expect them to happen so quickly from Pacquiao and his trainer Freddie Roach. One of the reasons Pacquiao looked so awful last night appeared to lose the fight by a comfortable margin was that he had foot cramps. Not sure what Pacquiao can do for his chronic cramps problem. Sure does sound like an excuse to me.
Pacquiao told Yahoo Sports “That was when it started [in the fourth round. I felt so bad that my balance was gone. Every time I threw a punch, I could feel it.”
I bet. I think Pacquiao is just getting old. I’m sure Marquez had his aches and pains but he’s not bringing them up because he’s not into making excuses. But then again, he has no reason to make any excuses. He fought beautifully against Pacquiao last night and deserved to win the fight.
Roach also came to Pacquiao’s rescue with the excuses, saying “It was difficult for Manny. His in and out motion was affected and he was coming in flatfooted. The pain started n his arches and then spread up to his calf.”
How sweet, Roach is making excuses for Pacquiao. Roach looked completely flummoxed at what to tell his fighter Pacquiao. You could see Roach spinning his mental gears but nothing he came up with seemed to help his fighter. In the end, Roach was jabbering away without any positive action from Pacquiao. And I figured that Roach and Pacquiao would come up with excuses after the fight and sure enough here we are with the excuses. How sad. I do buy that Pacquiao had some cramps but I don’t think there’s much you can do about it. Pacquiao is 32 now, and that’s when you start seeing your body act up on you, especially with the small fighters like Pacquiao. He’s getting old now and cramps are one way for your body to tell you that you’re not a spring chicken anymore. Pacquiao no jumps around like he used to, and that’s been like that for the past year and half. It didn’t just happen this fight. pacquiao has really lost his foot work, and that’s why Marquez had such as any time with him last night compared to the last two times he fought Pacquiao.
Pacquiao badly exposed by Marquez
By Dan Ambrose: Juan Manuel Marquez made Manny Pacquiao look bad tonight in beating him every which way a fighter can beat someone. However, the judges saw it differently from most of the boxing fans at ringside at the MGM Grand, giving the decision to Pacquiao by a 12 round majority decision. This was supposed to have been an easy win for Pacquiao if you were to listen to Pacquiao’s trainer Freddie Roach and strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza, both of which picked Pacquiao to win by a 1st round knockout.
The first round came and went quickly tonight without note other than Marquez pounding Pacquiao in that round and most of the subsequent rounds in the fight.
Here are the judges and how they scored the fight: Glen Trowbridge – 116-112 for Pacquiao; Robert Hoyle – 114-114, and Dave Moretti – 115-113 for Pacquiao.
I couldn’t see Pacquiao winning this fight. I scored the fight 116-112 for Marquez. He was better fighter in this bout and had Pacquiao looking really overmatched for most of the fight. Obviously, this is an unexpected thing for Pacquiao’s promoters. They waited three years after Pacquiao last fought Marquez and got a questionable decision to fight him again. The thought was that they were waiting for Marquez to get old before they fought him again. Well, I guess they needed to wait another two or three years, because looked to be the younger fighter tonight as he made Pacquiao look like an ape at times. The skill difference between the two fighters was staggering. Marquez looked a lot better skilled and really did a great job of countering Pacquiao every time the Filipino would throw anything.
Naturally, Marquez was pretty upset about losing the fight, saying after the fight “This is the second robbery of the two fights we’ve had. This one was even more clear than the first.”
You got to feel sorry for Marquez. He deserved the win tonight. But it’s not easy beating Pacquiao, because he’s so important to boxing because of the money he brings in. Trying to beat a guy that is very difficult because you’re working against a symbol more than just an athlete. And to get a decision against a big money maker like him you’ve got to pretty much dominate every round and/or score a knockout to win. Just beating a guy by four rounds, which is what Marquez appeared to do tonight, isn’t enough. You’ve got to really put a whipping on Pacquiao.
By Dan Ambrose: Juan Manuel Marquez made Manny Pacquiao look bad tonight in beating him every which way a fighter can beat someone. However, the judges saw it differently from most of the boxing fans at ringside at the MGM Grand, giving the decision to Pacquiao by a 12 round majority decision. This was supposed to have been an easy win for Pacquiao if you were to listen to Pacquiao’s trainer Freddie Roach and strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza, both of which picked Pacquiao to win by a 1st round knockout.
The first round came and went quickly tonight without note other than Marquez pounding Pacquiao in that round and most of the subsequent rounds in the fight.
Here are the judges and how they scored the fight: Glen Trowbridge – 116-112 for Pacquiao; Robert Hoyle – 114-114, and Dave Moretti – 115-113 for Pacquiao.
I couldn’t see Pacquiao winning this fight. I scored the fight 116-112 for Marquez. He was better fighter in this bout and had Pacquiao looking really overmatched for most of the fight. Obviously, this is an unexpected thing for Pacquiao’s promoters. They waited three years after Pacquiao last fought Marquez and got a questionable decision to fight him again. The thought was that they were waiting for Marquez to get old before they fought him again. Well, I guess they needed to wait another two or three years, because looked to be the younger fighter tonight as he made Pacquiao look like an ape at times. The skill difference between the two fighters was staggering. Marquez looked a lot better skilled and really did a great job of countering Pacquiao every time the Filipino would throw anything.
Naturally, Marquez was pretty upset about losing the fight, saying after the fight “This is the second robbery of the two fights we’ve had. This one was even more clear than the first.”
You got to feel sorry for Marquez. He deserved the win tonight. But it’s not easy beating Pacquiao, because he’s so important to boxing because of the money he brings in. Trying to beat a guy that is very difficult because you’re working against a symbol more than just an athlete. And to get a decision against a big money maker like him you’ve got to pretty much dominate every round and/or score a knockout to win. Just beating a guy by four rounds, which is what Marquez appeared to do tonight, isn’t enough. You’ve got to really put a whipping on Pacquiao.
Roach wants Pacquiao-Marquez 4 fight before Mayweather
By Chris Williams: Trainer Freddie Roach isn’t satisfied with his fighter Manny Pacquiao winning a controversial points decision over 38-year-old Juan Manuel Marquez last night in Las Vegas, and now wants to see a fourth fight between the two fighters in the first quarter of 2012 rather than seeing Manny move on and face Floyd Mayweather Jr. on May 5th.
Bob Arum, the promoter for Pacquiao, will likely have the final word as to whether Pacquiao will fight Marquez again or avoid him for another long extended period like he did after the time he fought Marquez in 2008 and struggled.
Speaking with AFP, Roach said “He [Marquez] has given us problems three times. I think he deserves a rematch first. It’s a fight I don’t want to do again, but I think we have to.”
Here’s the deal: Pacquiao almost has to fight Marquez again, ideally as soon as possible because of how bad he looked. It’s not just a few boxing fans who saw him losing to Marquez last night. We’re talking about massive amounts of people. All you have to do is look at the various internet web forums and blogs to see that reality. Arum can’t put together the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight right now coming off this poor performance from his fighter.
That would be a truly bone-headed move if he were to do that. Pacquiao just got exposed in this fight by a guy that Floyd Mayweather Jr. completely dominated two years ago. Pacquiao has to show that his poor performance was just a fluke by facing Marquez again and showing that he can actually beat him this time without controversy.
By Chris Williams: Trainer Freddie Roach isn’t satisfied with his fighter Manny Pacquiao winning a controversial points decision over 38-year-old Juan Manuel Marquez last night in Las Vegas, and now wants to see a fourth fight between the two fighters in the first quarter of 2012 rather than seeing Manny move on and face Floyd Mayweather Jr. on May 5th.
Bob Arum, the promoter for Pacquiao, will likely have the final word as to whether Pacquiao will fight Marquez again or avoid him for another long extended period like he did after the time he fought Marquez in 2008 and struggled.
Speaking with AFP, Roach said “He [Marquez] has given us problems three times. I think he deserves a rematch first. It’s a fight I don’t want to do again, but I think we have to.”
Here’s the deal: Pacquiao almost has to fight Marquez again, ideally as soon as possible because of how bad he looked. It’s not just a few boxing fans who saw him losing to Marquez last night. We’re talking about massive amounts of people. All you have to do is look at the various internet web forums and blogs to see that reality. Arum can’t put together the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight right now coming off this poor performance from his fighter.
That would be a truly bone-headed move if he were to do that. Pacquiao just got exposed in this fight by a guy that Floyd Mayweather Jr. completely dominated two years ago. Pacquiao has to show that his poor performance was just a fluke by facing Marquez again and showing that he can actually beat him this time without controversy.
James Kirkland's Next Fight: Dunkin Wants Carlos Molina, But Sergio and Lara
Coming off of a head-turning win over Alfredo Angulo on November 5 in Cancun, James Kirkland's team is hoping to line up a tough fight with another contender: Carlos Molina. From Cameron Dunkin, Kirkland's manager, via Ryan Maquiñana:
"The fight makes sense. Molina’s a good fighter. He beat Cintron, [and] should have beaten Lara. We’d like that fight next."
Dunkin also says that middleweight world champion Sergio Martinez and Erislandy Lara have had their names come up. Lara, like Molina, is currently in a position where his phone isn't ringing. Back in March on Friday Night Fights, Molina returned from a two-year absence from the ring to push Lara to a 10-round draw in a fight Lara was favored to win, and many felt Molina deserved the duke that night. At the time, it was thought to be a bit of an "exposing of" the Cuban standout.
Star-divide
But four months later, on the same night, Molina (19-4-2, 6 KO) and Lara (15-1-1, 10 KO) really made their marks. Lara was robbed blind in New Jersey after delivering a consistent beating to Paul Williams on HBO, while Molina easily routed Kermit Cintron in California, an upset that viewers were able to see live on Showtime.
Here we are in November, and neither of them have fought since July 9. Cintron, though, is getting a shot at WBC junior middleweight titlist Saul "Canelo" Alvarez on November 26. That's boxing for you.
Either would be a fine opponent for Kirkland (30-1, 27 KO), but I sense that Dunkin would prefer Molina for a few reasons:
He's a come-forward, aggressive guy, while Lara is not. Lara is at his best picking apart his opponents. Molina likes to be in the pocket, throwing.
In addition to that, Molina really can't punch. Lara's no thunderous bruiser himself, but Molina really has no zip on the old fastball. He overwhelms with volume and crafty in-fighting.
Lara is a southpaw.
As for the Sergio Martinez idea, I kind of feel like that benefits Martinez, who could use a hot opponent right now, more than it does Kirkland, who would be getting a shot to be middleweight champion, sure, but in a fight where he'd really be a big underdog. Sergio is also a southpaw, and is slicker, faster, and a harder hitter than Lara. If Dunkin doesn't like a Lara fight, I can't imagine he'd like a Martinez fight. James Kirkland will have a lot of time to make money in boxing, win or lose, if he can keep his head on outside of the ring. No reason to rush him in there with Sergio Martinez and risk an immediate step back. Maybe in a year, if it really makes sense, but not just yet.
Coming off of a head-turning win over Alfredo Angulo on November 5 in Cancun, James Kirkland's team is hoping to line up a tough fight with another contender: Carlos Molina. From Cameron Dunkin, Kirkland's manager, via Ryan Maquiñana:
"The fight makes sense. Molina’s a good fighter. He beat Cintron, [and] should have beaten Lara. We’d like that fight next."
Dunkin also says that middleweight world champion Sergio Martinez and Erislandy Lara have had their names come up. Lara, like Molina, is currently in a position where his phone isn't ringing. Back in March on Friday Night Fights, Molina returned from a two-year absence from the ring to push Lara to a 10-round draw in a fight Lara was favored to win, and many felt Molina deserved the duke that night. At the time, it was thought to be a bit of an "exposing of" the Cuban standout.
Star-divide
But four months later, on the same night, Molina (19-4-2, 6 KO) and Lara (15-1-1, 10 KO) really made their marks. Lara was robbed blind in New Jersey after delivering a consistent beating to Paul Williams on HBO, while Molina easily routed Kermit Cintron in California, an upset that viewers were able to see live on Showtime.
Here we are in November, and neither of them have fought since July 9. Cintron, though, is getting a shot at WBC junior middleweight titlist Saul "Canelo" Alvarez on November 26. That's boxing for you.
Either would be a fine opponent for Kirkland (30-1, 27 KO), but I sense that Dunkin would prefer Molina for a few reasons:
He's a come-forward, aggressive guy, while Lara is not. Lara is at his best picking apart his opponents. Molina likes to be in the pocket, throwing.
In addition to that, Molina really can't punch. Lara's no thunderous bruiser himself, but Molina really has no zip on the old fastball. He overwhelms with volume and crafty in-fighting.
Lara is a southpaw.
As for the Sergio Martinez idea, I kind of feel like that benefits Martinez, who could use a hot opponent right now, more than it does Kirkland, who would be getting a shot to be middleweight champion, sure, but in a fight where he'd really be a big underdog. Sergio is also a southpaw, and is slicker, faster, and a harder hitter than Lara. If Dunkin doesn't like a Lara fight, I can't imagine he'd like a Martinez fight. James Kirkland will have a lot of time to make money in boxing, win or lose, if he can keep his head on outside of the ring. No reason to rush him in there with Sergio Martinez and risk an immediate step back. Maybe in a year, if it really makes sense, but not just yet.
Ariza: Pacquiao Not Happy With Win, Wants Marquez Again
www.boxingscene.com
by Ronnie Nathanielsz
Pound for pound king Manny Pacquiao is obviously disappointed with his majority decision win over WBO/WBA lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez at the MGM Grand Garden Arena this past Saturday and wants Marquez one more time.
Strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza told BoxingScene.com/Manila Standard Today that he had a talk with the WBO welterweight champion on Monday and told us “Manny was not happy with his performance either.” He said “it was obviously a really bad night” and that he " wants another one.” Ariza said he too would “want another Marquez fight.”
Ariza said he told Pacquiao “ Let’s do it my way and see what happens.”
Top Rank promoter Bob Arum who was roundly booed by the Mexican fans who accused him of stealing the fight from Marquez said “not only was this fight not definitive, very few rounds were definitive. If the fighters are willing we’ll do it again.”
However, Arum may have trouble convincing Marquez to fight Pacquiao for a fourth time and even money may not entice the Mexican legend to take on the challenge. In fact Marquez said he is contemplating retirement and was certain that even if he beats Pacquiao, the judges won’t give him the decision.
Ariza said he told Pacquiao “we need to go back to the basics again. We have to get back to what we did in the days we were successful and we didn’t have any leg problems (cramps) and things like that.”
Ariza was apparently pleased that Pacquiao “had agreed to go back to the old ways” and indicated Pacquiao told him “next time we are going to do everything your way.”
The strength and conditioning coach who recalled their rousing success in the fights against David Diaz, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto revealed “he was not doing it my way at all” for Marquez III. He pointed the wide difference in “boxing training and conditioning training where sometimes a fighter thinks that because he trains hard inside the gym the conditioning is going to piggyback on the things that he does.”
Ariza said Pacquiao “looked good but his body didn’t cooperate with him again last night. His balance was off, he looked very ordinary, nothing special. He was exposed.”
When asked about the cramps suffered by Pacquiao in the fight Ariza said he “showed him a list and told him let’s look at the Manny Pacquiao way and the Alex Ariza way” and pointed out that in the fights against Marquez III and Shane Mosley Pacquiao had leg cramps but when they trained the Ariza way he had no leg cramps in the fights against Diaz, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto and Clottey.
Ariza conceded “I know my way is very hard, its very taxing, its very uncomfortable but there is a reason for it. Nobody likes to do the conditioning but that’s what’s pushing us through, that’s what is making Manny look good.”
Ariza said “I don’t want to make excuses about leg cramps but our fights are getting worse and worse” citing the battles with Antonio Margarito and Shane Mosley adding “we are starting to go in reverse. Unless we get back to what we did in the beginning I don’t see how we are going to progress.”
With the possibility of a Floyd Mayweather megabuck fight taking place on May 5 Ariza said “if I was Mayweather and I saw that last fight (Marquez) I would sign for a Pacquiao fight this morning.”
Let the ducking on Mayweather begin. These excuses are getting funny.
www.boxingscene.com
by Ronnie Nathanielsz
Pound for pound king Manny Pacquiao is obviously disappointed with his majority decision win over WBO/WBA lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez at the MGM Grand Garden Arena this past Saturday and wants Marquez one more time.
Strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza told BoxingScene.com/Manila Standard Today that he had a talk with the WBO welterweight champion on Monday and told us “Manny was not happy with his performance either.” He said “it was obviously a really bad night” and that he " wants another one.” Ariza said he too would “want another Marquez fight.”
Ariza said he told Pacquiao “ Let’s do it my way and see what happens.”
Top Rank promoter Bob Arum who was roundly booed by the Mexican fans who accused him of stealing the fight from Marquez said “not only was this fight not definitive, very few rounds were definitive. If the fighters are willing we’ll do it again.”
However, Arum may have trouble convincing Marquez to fight Pacquiao for a fourth time and even money may not entice the Mexican legend to take on the challenge. In fact Marquez said he is contemplating retirement and was certain that even if he beats Pacquiao, the judges won’t give him the decision.
Ariza said he told Pacquiao “we need to go back to the basics again. We have to get back to what we did in the days we were successful and we didn’t have any leg problems (cramps) and things like that.”
Ariza was apparently pleased that Pacquiao “had agreed to go back to the old ways” and indicated Pacquiao told him “next time we are going to do everything your way.”
The strength and conditioning coach who recalled their rousing success in the fights against David Diaz, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto revealed “he was not doing it my way at all” for Marquez III. He pointed the wide difference in “boxing training and conditioning training where sometimes a fighter thinks that because he trains hard inside the gym the conditioning is going to piggyback on the things that he does.”
Ariza said Pacquiao “looked good but his body didn’t cooperate with him again last night. His balance was off, he looked very ordinary, nothing special. He was exposed.”
When asked about the cramps suffered by Pacquiao in the fight Ariza said he “showed him a list and told him let’s look at the Manny Pacquiao way and the Alex Ariza way” and pointed out that in the fights against Marquez III and Shane Mosley Pacquiao had leg cramps but when they trained the Ariza way he had no leg cramps in the fights against Diaz, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto and Clottey.
Ariza conceded “I know my way is very hard, its very taxing, its very uncomfortable but there is a reason for it. Nobody likes to do the conditioning but that’s what’s pushing us through, that’s what is making Manny look good.”
Ariza said “I don’t want to make excuses about leg cramps but our fights are getting worse and worse” citing the battles with Antonio Margarito and Shane Mosley adding “we are starting to go in reverse. Unless we get back to what we did in the beginning I don’t see how we are going to progress.”
With the possibility of a Floyd Mayweather megabuck fight taking place on May 5 Ariza said “if I was Mayweather and I saw that last fight (Marquez) I would sign for a Pacquiao fight this morning.”
Let the ducking on Mayweather begin. These excuses are getting funny.
the lateral movement that pacquiao has used so well in the past has been gone his last couple fights. He started doing it late against Marquez a few times, but that's it. He needs to go back to that. He fought in straight lines against Mosley and a lot against Marquez. He needs to go back to how he used to step to the side.
Floyd Responds:
http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content11193.html?PHPSESSID=a7a48751e92e115b9eaf1606d5c8ab2e
"I can't really say nothing about him because there's been a defemation of character case filed against me. In the past, I was able to criticize my opponents and talk trash in a playful manner, but I guess, you know, with me talking trash to Manny Pacquiao, I got a lawsuit....I mean, the fight could've happened the way it happened because, you know, someone is slowly changing so they can prepare to fight me. They know they're going to have to take the random blood and the random urine tests"
http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content11193.html?PHPSESSID=a7a48751e92e115b9eaf1606d5c8ab2e
"I can't really say nothing about him because there's been a defemation of character case filed against me. In the past, I was able to criticize my opponents and talk trash in a playful manner, but I guess, you know, with me talking trash to Manny Pacquiao, I got a lawsuit....I mean, the fight could've happened the way it happened because, you know, someone is slowly changing so they can prepare to fight me. They know they're going to have to take the random blood and the random urine tests"
They're trapped bigface.... They'd rather fight Marquez for a 4th time even though Floyd is waitin'....
Marquez probably doesn't want to fight Pacquiao again!
Oscar is probably going to talk him out of it if he does consider fighting Pacquiao again.
So what happens if Marquez retires? Manny has to fight Floyd!!
Marquez probably doesn't want to fight Pacquiao again!
Oscar is probably going to talk him out of it if he does consider fighting Pacquiao again.
So what happens if Marquez retires? Manny has to fight Floyd!!
I think pac is in a tough spot - a lot of people are saying he lost or are dissapointed with his performance so there are two or three options - give marquez the rematch, fight floyd, or fight marquez immediately and floyd after.
As for marquez retiring, I doubt he'd pass on another $10 million dollar payday. Matter of fact, he'd make more than he did on saturday, because he has leverage.
But Mayweather made a good point regarding another rematch. What for? If Pac hasn't been able to dominate Marquez he's not going to a few months from now, so might as well just fight Floyd next and if marquez still wants it, fight him for the fourth time after Floyd (win or lose).
As for marquez retiring, I doubt he'd pass on another $10 million dollar payday. Matter of fact, he'd make more than he did on saturday, because he has leverage.
But Mayweather made a good point regarding another rematch. What for? If Pac hasn't been able to dominate Marquez he's not going to a few months from now, so might as well just fight Floyd next and if marquez still wants it, fight him for the fourth time after Floyd (win or lose).
I think at his age, and the controversial losses, he's done bruh. He got paid, possibly should have won but I think he's done. He's been chasing a rematch for years and finally got it. He put on weight, trained and fought/boxed his heart out.... that's all he wanted was his one victory against Pacquiao and still didn't get it, even though he should've.
I think he's done bruh....
I think he's done bruh....
nah, he has the same mindset as bernard hopkins. Hopkins lost several controversial fights he thought he won at an older age and that never stopped him. He has legacy to fight for. For example if Marquez wins a title at 140, he'll be the first TRUE Mexican to win titles in four weight classes. There are a number of things that can keep him motivated, imo. We'll see, I just have a feeling he's not done. Not after a great performance like that. Unless he's so bitter he pulls a Marvin Hagler after he lost to Sugar Ray Leonard but I just don't think he's like that.
