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He gets a voluntary. He gets a voluntary defense before he has to fight Dawson again as long as Dawson seems willing to invoke his rematch clause (which by all accounts he does) and that's basically a guaranteed HBO fight. I'm saying I doubt he takes on an extremely tough fight for a voluntary because guys with large home fanfare usually don't take those type of fights for voluntary defenses.
Team Alexander: We Don't Need Tim Bradley; 50-50 Split
By Lem Satterfield
Negotiations for a junior welterweight unification are heating up. HBO is pushing to have WBC/IBF champion Devon Alexander and WBO king Timothy Bradley come together for a fight. The network, and fight promoters Gary Shaw and Don King, have discussed a tentative date of January 29.
One of the sticking points for Alexander's manager and trainer, Kevin Cunningham, is the money. Cunningham wants at least a 50-50 split for his boxer - or the fight won't happen. Because of Alexander's ability to draw, at least in St. Louis, Cunningham believes they are at least entitled to an equal split of the money.
"The bottom line is this: We'll fight Tim Bradley next. We're willing to fight Tim Bradley on a 50-50 split, and we think that the fight makes sense in St. Louis. But it doesn't have to be in St. Louis. We'll fight Tim Bradley anywhere," said Cunningham.
"But the fight doesn't make sense in California, because Tim Bradley doesn't draw but 2,000 there. So the fight can't take place in California. Devon is willing to fight Tim Bradley if the money's right, wherever.
If the financial numbers are not satisfied, then Alexander and Cunningham will pursue alternative opportunities.
"Gary Shaw is talking all of this sh**, but we don't need Tim Bradley. If Devon can do 10,000 fans with a guy that nobody has ever heard of [Andriy Kotelnik], then, Devon can fight at home a couple of times a year and be just fine. So we don't need Tim Bradley," said Cunningham.
Shaw, who promotes Bradley, refused to discuss money, but he is open to a 50-50 split and a neutral location to stage the fight. There is no way the fight will take place in St. Louis, says Shaw.
"I don't discuss money, but this is one of those fights where a 50-50 split is not out of the question," said Shaw. "If I had my choice, I would obviously like to see the fight in California," said Shaw. "But other than that, I would like to see the fight in Washington, D.C., or, New Orleans. There simply is not a chance that the fight is going to St. Louis."
By Lem Satterfield
Negotiations for a junior welterweight unification are heating up. HBO is pushing to have WBC/IBF champion Devon Alexander and WBO king Timothy Bradley come together for a fight. The network, and fight promoters Gary Shaw and Don King, have discussed a tentative date of January 29.
One of the sticking points for Alexander's manager and trainer, Kevin Cunningham, is the money. Cunningham wants at least a 50-50 split for his boxer - or the fight won't happen. Because of Alexander's ability to draw, at least in St. Louis, Cunningham believes they are at least entitled to an equal split of the money.
"The bottom line is this: We'll fight Tim Bradley next. We're willing to fight Tim Bradley on a 50-50 split, and we think that the fight makes sense in St. Louis. But it doesn't have to be in St. Louis. We'll fight Tim Bradley anywhere," said Cunningham.
"But the fight doesn't make sense in California, because Tim Bradley doesn't draw but 2,000 there. So the fight can't take place in California. Devon is willing to fight Tim Bradley if the money's right, wherever.
If the financial numbers are not satisfied, then Alexander and Cunningham will pursue alternative opportunities.
"Gary Shaw is talking all of this sh**, but we don't need Tim Bradley. If Devon can do 10,000 fans with a guy that nobody has ever heard of [Andriy Kotelnik], then, Devon can fight at home a couple of times a year and be just fine. So we don't need Tim Bradley," said Cunningham.
Shaw, who promotes Bradley, refused to discuss money, but he is open to a 50-50 split and a neutral location to stage the fight. There is no way the fight will take place in St. Louis, says Shaw.
"I don't discuss money, but this is one of those fights where a 50-50 split is not out of the question," said Shaw. "If I had my choice, I would obviously like to see the fight in California," said Shaw. "But other than that, I would like to see the fight in Washington, D.C., or, New Orleans. There simply is not a chance that the fight is going to St. Louis."
Haye vs Harrison Negotiations Move Forward, Says Hearn
By Mark Vester
Promoter Barry Hearn tells Sky Sports News that negotiations are moving forward to make an all British showdown between his fighter Audley Harrison and WBC heavyweight champion David Haye. Hearn's son Eddie is involved in the talks, that Hearn says are going well. The fight doersn't mean much in the United States. For British fans the fight is huge.
"I'm not part of these negotiations; my son Eddie is fronting up the discussions," Hearn said. "We are in talks, I understand the talks are going reasonably well. In the heavyweight division, there is nothing else out there as far as British fight fans are concerned, Harrison-Haye is enormous. The fantastic thing about David Haye is that he's burst on the scene and done a fantastic job against [Nikolay] Valuev, boxed the ears off [John] Ruiz and put him into retirement. He's hot.
Haye is a huge draw in England, but Hearn says Harrison is a bigger draw because of his up and down career. The opportunity to fight Haye would certainly be the last major title shot for Harrison.
"Audley Harrison, in my opinion, is a bigger draw. People don't know what to expect from Audley Harrison, he's been talking a great fight for years, never delivered it. He's at that last stage saloon - every fight fan in England wants to see this fight. The fight's going to be amazing. I hope Eddie and Adam Booth get this fight together. Watch this space."
By Mark Vester
Promoter Barry Hearn tells Sky Sports News that negotiations are moving forward to make an all British showdown between his fighter Audley Harrison and WBC heavyweight champion David Haye. Hearn's son Eddie is involved in the talks, that Hearn says are going well. The fight doersn't mean much in the United States. For British fans the fight is huge.
"I'm not part of these negotiations; my son Eddie is fronting up the discussions," Hearn said. "We are in talks, I understand the talks are going reasonably well. In the heavyweight division, there is nothing else out there as far as British fight fans are concerned, Harrison-Haye is enormous. The fantastic thing about David Haye is that he's burst on the scene and done a fantastic job against [Nikolay] Valuev, boxed the ears off [John] Ruiz and put him into retirement. He's hot.
Haye is a huge draw in England, but Hearn says Harrison is a bigger draw because of his up and down career. The opportunity to fight Haye would certainly be the last major title shot for Harrison.
"Audley Harrison, in my opinion, is a bigger draw. People don't know what to expect from Audley Harrison, he's been talking a great fight for years, never delivered it. He's at that last stage saloon - every fight fan in England wants to see this fight. The fight's going to be amazing. I hope Eddie and Adam Booth get this fight together. Watch this space."
Ishe Smith Responds To Criscio Over Chad Dawson Jabs
By Ishe Smith
In response to http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=30158
Mostly I stick to mailbags, Shay Days, and short stories. I mean I have never really came to the defense of any fighters in the short time that I've been writing, but right now I feel the need to and will.
First off Chad Dawson was in camp for two months, where Criscio got this idea that Chad was in camp for four weeks is beyond me. Chad started camp in June, he was in camp a month before I even fought [Fernando] Guerrero.
Upon opening my camp in Vegas, I sparred Zab [Judah] for awhile, Zab then started working with some southpaws because his opponent switched a lot. After that I started sparring a lot of right handers. I was a little worried, but as my coach Eddie Mustafa would say, it doesn’t matter as long as we are getting the work in, and I think it showed July 16th that it didn’t matter, but honestly I would say 75 percent of my sparring were right hander’s.
Chad arrived around the first week of June, maybe early second week, but he was definitely in camp a full eight weeks. Eddie spoke with Chad and told him I was having problems getting southpaw work and Chad said he would help out, I took that as a honor that he helped me and sparred me about 4-6 times. Whenever you can spar one of the best fighters in boxing to prepare you it’s always going to be a positive situation.
My last day sparring him was July 12th. I told him thanks for all his help. I really needed that closing camp and I told Eddie if they needed any work I would help him out when my fight was over. I fought that Friday, and on that Tuesday, July 20th I went back to the gym and started helping Chad. I was one of about 6 sparring partners he had, so I don’t know why the hell Crisio would say it was a waste of time. He had great sparring, and worked his ass off for the fight against [Jean] Pascal. He just had a off night, and we have all been there.
Don’t come on the record and say stuff about things you don’t know about. As I said I was one of about 6 sparring partners he had, ranging from middleweight all the way up to heavyweight. One thing about me is that I am confident in my defense and my chin. Aould I spar Michael Grant, hell no, but I am confident from about 175lbs down. Chad and I had some great sessions. I am not the one who divulges what the sessions where like, but they were good. Was I the main guy? No, I wouldn’t say that. He had bigger guys in there for that. There were some days where I wasn’t even in the rotation, but trust me when we worked we went all out. I watched this guy go 15 rounds one day, 4 minute rounds with 30 seconds rest. He never went for 3 minute rounds. He always worked 4 to 5 minute rounds with only 30 seconds rest. So to say he wasn’t ready is understatement to me because he was.
As a father of three myself...I will say this, it’s hard being away from your kids for two months here and there. I don’t mind his wife being there, supporting her husband. Was she at the gym all the time? No she wasn’t. I may have seen her three times out of the eight weeks. Boxing is so demanding, and mentally exhausting, there is nothing wrong with having the one you love there to support you. Maybe Crisio should applaud Chad for being a good dad, instead of putting him down. I know I will never leave my kids for two months ever again I did that for the Sechew Powell fight and I told myself that was it. I missed them so much that my camp turned from being fun to being depressing.
In closing Chad had a off night and will be back, I can guarantee that. I don’t know about all the personal issues surrounding Chad, and frankly it is none of my business, all I know is he was a class act in camp and a great guy to help out. Mike, here is a special word to you...if it was such a waste of time, why don’t you put your other fighter in there with me [Alfredo Angulo] and I will show the world what kind of waste of time it was when I kick his ass. I don’t need to say any names because everyone knows who I am talking about.
Or better yet why don’t you worry about him taking some math classes and understanding the difference between $75,000 and $750,000. Chad keep your head up man. As someone wise once told me, you will find out who your real friends are when the smoke clears and the dust settles. Pay attention man
By Ishe Smith
In response to http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=30158
Mostly I stick to mailbags, Shay Days, and short stories. I mean I have never really came to the defense of any fighters in the short time that I've been writing, but right now I feel the need to and will.
First off Chad Dawson was in camp for two months, where Criscio got this idea that Chad was in camp for four weeks is beyond me. Chad started camp in June, he was in camp a month before I even fought [Fernando] Guerrero.
Upon opening my camp in Vegas, I sparred Zab [Judah] for awhile, Zab then started working with some southpaws because his opponent switched a lot. After that I started sparring a lot of right handers. I was a little worried, but as my coach Eddie Mustafa would say, it doesn’t matter as long as we are getting the work in, and I think it showed July 16th that it didn’t matter, but honestly I would say 75 percent of my sparring were right hander’s.
Chad arrived around the first week of June, maybe early second week, but he was definitely in camp a full eight weeks. Eddie spoke with Chad and told him I was having problems getting southpaw work and Chad said he would help out, I took that as a honor that he helped me and sparred me about 4-6 times. Whenever you can spar one of the best fighters in boxing to prepare you it’s always going to be a positive situation.
My last day sparring him was July 12th. I told him thanks for all his help. I really needed that closing camp and I told Eddie if they needed any work I would help him out when my fight was over. I fought that Friday, and on that Tuesday, July 20th I went back to the gym and started helping Chad. I was one of about 6 sparring partners he had, so I don’t know why the hell Crisio would say it was a waste of time. He had great sparring, and worked his ass off for the fight against [Jean] Pascal. He just had a off night, and we have all been there.
Don’t come on the record and say stuff about things you don’t know about. As I said I was one of about 6 sparring partners he had, ranging from middleweight all the way up to heavyweight. One thing about me is that I am confident in my defense and my chin. Aould I spar Michael Grant, hell no, but I am confident from about 175lbs down. Chad and I had some great sessions. I am not the one who divulges what the sessions where like, but they were good. Was I the main guy? No, I wouldn’t say that. He had bigger guys in there for that. There were some days where I wasn’t even in the rotation, but trust me when we worked we went all out. I watched this guy go 15 rounds one day, 4 minute rounds with 30 seconds rest. He never went for 3 minute rounds. He always worked 4 to 5 minute rounds with only 30 seconds rest. So to say he wasn’t ready is understatement to me because he was.
As a father of three myself...I will say this, it’s hard being away from your kids for two months here and there. I don’t mind his wife being there, supporting her husband. Was she at the gym all the time? No she wasn’t. I may have seen her three times out of the eight weeks. Boxing is so demanding, and mentally exhausting, there is nothing wrong with having the one you love there to support you. Maybe Crisio should applaud Chad for being a good dad, instead of putting him down. I know I will never leave my kids for two months ever again I did that for the Sechew Powell fight and I told myself that was it. I missed them so much that my camp turned from being fun to being depressing.
In closing Chad had a off night and will be back, I can guarantee that. I don’t know about all the personal issues surrounding Chad, and frankly it is none of my business, all I know is he was a class act in camp and a great guy to help out. Mike, here is a special word to you...if it was such a waste of time, why don’t you put your other fighter in there with me [Alfredo Angulo] and I will show the world what kind of waste of time it was when I kick his ass. I don’t need to say any names because everyone knows who I am talking about.
Or better yet why don’t you worry about him taking some math classes and understanding the difference between $75,000 and $750,000. Chad keep your head up man. As someone wise once told me, you will find out who your real friends are when the smoke clears and the dust settles. Pay attention man
After Briggs, Klitschko Wants Nikolai Valuev, David Haye
By Lem Satterfield
On October 16, WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko will make his fifth defense against former WBO titlist Shannon Briggs at the 02 World Arena in Altona, Hamburg, Germany. The 39-year-old Klitschko (40-2, 38 KOs) has not lost since being stopped in the sixth round by Lennox Lewis in June of 2003. The 38-year-old Briggs (51-5-1, 45 KOs) is big puncher, with his last three fights ending by way of knockout in the first round.
According to Tom Loeffler of K2 Promotions, the two opponents Vitali would like to get in the ring are David Haye (24-1, 22 KOs), the WBA champion, and seven foot Nikolay Valuev (50-2, 34 KOs) of St. Petersburg, Russia. Loeffler says Valuev turned down an offer of $1.5 million to fight Vitali on the October date. Haye has shown little interest in facing either Klitschko brother. Should he get past Briggs, possible fight with Valuev and Haye will be revisited.
"The two that Vitali wants the most would be Valuev, whom we made an offer two before the Briggs deal was done, and then, obviously, Vitali would like to fight David Haye, who also seems to not be too interested in fighting either one of the brothers," said Loeffler.
"Those are fights that Vitali certainly would look forward to, but obviously, in fighting Shannon, we're facing a dangerous opponent who has a lot of knockouts on his record. I think that the figure between the two of them is that they have a combined 83 knockouts."
By Lem Satterfield
On October 16, WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko will make his fifth defense against former WBO titlist Shannon Briggs at the 02 World Arena in Altona, Hamburg, Germany. The 39-year-old Klitschko (40-2, 38 KOs) has not lost since being stopped in the sixth round by Lennox Lewis in June of 2003. The 38-year-old Briggs (51-5-1, 45 KOs) is big puncher, with his last three fights ending by way of knockout in the first round.
According to Tom Loeffler of K2 Promotions, the two opponents Vitali would like to get in the ring are David Haye (24-1, 22 KOs), the WBA champion, and seven foot Nikolay Valuev (50-2, 34 KOs) of St. Petersburg, Russia. Loeffler says Valuev turned down an offer of $1.5 million to fight Vitali on the October date. Haye has shown little interest in facing either Klitschko brother. Should he get past Briggs, possible fight with Valuev and Haye will be revisited.
"The two that Vitali wants the most would be Valuev, whom we made an offer two before the Briggs deal was done, and then, obviously, Vitali would like to fight David Haye, who also seems to not be too interested in fighting either one of the brothers," said Loeffler.
"Those are fights that Vitali certainly would look forward to, but obviously, in fighting Shannon, we're facing a dangerous opponent who has a lot of knockouts on his record. I think that the figure between the two of them is that they have a combined 83 knockouts."
Khan wants Marquez fight to take place in the UK
By Jason Kim: World Boxing Association light welterweight champion Amir Khan (23-1, 17 KO’s) reportedly wants WBA/WBO lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez (51-5-1, 37 KO’s) to have to travel all the way to the UK to fight in front of Khan’s home crowds rather than Khan fighting Marquez in a neutral country like the United States. Khan, 23, feels that since he’s holds the title that Marquez wants, then Khan should be the one fighting in front of his home crowd. As of now, it’s unclear whether Marquez will take the fight with Khan or not. Golden Boy Promotions, who promotes both Khan and Marquez, really wants the fight badly, as does HBO.
The fight will likely take place on December 11th. It does seem a little strange that Marquez, the much more accomplished fighter and the much better known of the two, would have to travel to the UK to fight the young champion. However, it could end up that way, as Khan would likely be able to attract more fans for this fight in the UK than if it were to take place elsewhere like the United States. Khan still is an unknown there, having fought only once against the light hitting former IBF light welterweight champion Paulie Malignaggi last May.
It’s going to take Khan awhile to build up a large fanbase in the United States, and he may have a hard time accomplishing that until he starts taking on the tougher fighters from his own weight division and not older lightweights like Marco Antonio Barrera and Marquez. Golden Boy and Khan are hoping that the Marquez fight will help in establishing Khan as a star. But it may take wins over younger fighters in the light welterweight division for that to happen. Khan really needs to fight Timothy Bradley, Devon Alexander, Marcos Maidana and Victor Ortiz if he wants to rise up quickly.
However, Golden Boy Promotions don’t appear to be in a hurry to put Khan in with any of those fighters. They could be worried that Khan will get knocked out again like he was against Breidis Prescott when they matched him tough two years ago in 2008. Khan has been selectively matched since that fight and put with fighters with light to moderate punching power, but no sluggers. Marquez, who’s best weight was featherweight, isn’t a big puncher now that he’s moved up in weight to the lightweight division. If he decides to take the fight with Khan and move up to the light welterweight division, Marquez could find himself too weak and slow to compete.
At 37, he’s a bit old in the tooth to be moving up in weight and will likely get beaten by Khan. Marquez is hoping to get another crack at Manny Pacquiao after having fought him twice already. However, Top Rank promoter Bob Arum, says that Marquez will have to beat the top fighters in the light welterweight and welterweight division to get a crack at Pacquiao. Specifically, Arum wants to see Marquez fight guys like Joshua Clottey, who Arum promotes, Andre Berto, Timothy Bradley and Devon Alexander
By Jason Kim: World Boxing Association light welterweight champion Amir Khan (23-1, 17 KO’s) reportedly wants WBA/WBO lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez (51-5-1, 37 KO’s) to have to travel all the way to the UK to fight in front of Khan’s home crowds rather than Khan fighting Marquez in a neutral country like the United States. Khan, 23, feels that since he’s holds the title that Marquez wants, then Khan should be the one fighting in front of his home crowd. As of now, it’s unclear whether Marquez will take the fight with Khan or not. Golden Boy Promotions, who promotes both Khan and Marquez, really wants the fight badly, as does HBO.
The fight will likely take place on December 11th. It does seem a little strange that Marquez, the much more accomplished fighter and the much better known of the two, would have to travel to the UK to fight the young champion. However, it could end up that way, as Khan would likely be able to attract more fans for this fight in the UK than if it were to take place elsewhere like the United States. Khan still is an unknown there, having fought only once against the light hitting former IBF light welterweight champion Paulie Malignaggi last May.
It’s going to take Khan awhile to build up a large fanbase in the United States, and he may have a hard time accomplishing that until he starts taking on the tougher fighters from his own weight division and not older lightweights like Marco Antonio Barrera and Marquez. Golden Boy and Khan are hoping that the Marquez fight will help in establishing Khan as a star. But it may take wins over younger fighters in the light welterweight division for that to happen. Khan really needs to fight Timothy Bradley, Devon Alexander, Marcos Maidana and Victor Ortiz if he wants to rise up quickly.
However, Golden Boy Promotions don’t appear to be in a hurry to put Khan in with any of those fighters. They could be worried that Khan will get knocked out again like he was against Breidis Prescott when they matched him tough two years ago in 2008. Khan has been selectively matched since that fight and put with fighters with light to moderate punching power, but no sluggers. Marquez, who’s best weight was featherweight, isn’t a big puncher now that he’s moved up in weight to the lightweight division. If he decides to take the fight with Khan and move up to the light welterweight division, Marquez could find himself too weak and slow to compete.
At 37, he’s a bit old in the tooth to be moving up in weight and will likely get beaten by Khan. Marquez is hoping to get another crack at Manny Pacquiao after having fought him twice already. However, Top Rank promoter Bob Arum, says that Marquez will have to beat the top fighters in the light welterweight and welterweight division to get a crack at Pacquiao. Specifically, Arum wants to see Marquez fight guys like Joshua Clottey, who Arum promotes, Andre Berto, Timothy Bradley and Devon Alexander
Roger Mayweather says “We want this fight” [Mayweather-Pacquiao]
Fightchronicles.com, boxscorenews.com -You ever get those calls on your phone where you don’t recognize the number calling you so you let the phone ring until it goes to voice mail?
Usually this will suffice the caller’s needs and they will proceed with leaving a voice message in your mail center and wait for your return contact. However, every now and again, the caller will be persistant and leaving a message will only go so far in their eyes. They need more.
Well three calls and one voice message (marked urgent on my cell phone) later, it was apparent that someone was itching to “reach out and touch someone”; me. The person with the itch was none other than Roger Mayweather.
Needless to say, I returned his calls.
“This fight has to happen; we want this fight,” exclaimed Roger Mayweather.
“The fight for my nephew is Manny. This is the fight that makes the most sense when talking about money making, but also, this fight has to happen cause it’s important to the fans. The people want to see this fight and they should get what they want.”
“I’m hearing people say my nephew’s (multi-world champion Floyd Mayweather Jr.) scared of Manny Pacquiao. Floyd ain’t scared of Manny. Lil’ Floyd ain’t scared of sh*t, why should he be?” Mayweather continued, “Let me ask this question, who’s been knocked out twice?”
Roger is clearly talking about the two pound-for-pound combatants that were expected to do battle in the “biggest fight in boxing history” sometime this year-undefeated slick boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr. and the crowd pleasing, heavy handed Manny Pacquiao. However, the dream fight that was, failed to materialize and since has become a nightmare for all involved.
From the network suits to the promoters all the way down to the sweet science fans themselves and everyone in between, the sentiment is mutual, we’ve all been robbed of witnessing greatness in the squared circle.
Many people are blaming Floyd Mayweather Jr. for this fight not taking place. Originally, the fight was proposed with stipulations from the Mayweather camp that Pacquiao submit to random blood tests prior to the fight.
Pacquiao scoffed at this request believing that taking blood from his body would hinder his ability to be at full strength for the fight.
Because of this, the fight was nixed until talks allegedly resumed again over the summer.
This time, Pacquiao stated he would be willing to partake in blood tests, but only if the tests were scheduled to cease fourteen days prior to the scheduled bout with Mayweather.
With that, Pacquiao’s promoter, Bob Arum from Top Rank boxing, initialized a very public deadline for Mayweather to agree to these terms or forfeit the chance to dethrone the “People’s Champion”.
The deadline came and went and no one has heard much from the Mayweather camp about this matter until now.
“The only reason this fight hasn’t happened is because Manny won’t agree to random blood tests throughout training camp,” Roger said.
“This motherf**ker says he agreed to tests, but he really didn’t,” Mayweather continues, “he wants to know when these tests are happening and he wants them to end at a certain time.”
“How the f*ck is that random drug testing?”
He asks, “If you got nothing to hide, then why be so concerned about when you gotta take a drug test?”
“How you gonna leave over 100 million dollars on the table cause you don’t want to take random drug tests leading up to the fight?”
“I know why. ‘Cause you got something to hide,” said Roger.
I’m not sure if Manny is hiding something, but I am curious as to why Floyd is adamant about cleaning up the sport of boxing via random blood tests. Why now? Why go 40 bouts into your career and suddenly demand your opponents submit to Olympic style testing?
Mayweather answered, “My nephew brought this testing up because going into the fight with Shane Mosley, Shane had a history of using substances. And now with Manny, we got our suspicions.”
“Floyd ain’t asking no one to do nothing that he isn’t willing to do himself.”
“You saw what happened when we got Shane in that ring; Floyd put an ass whooping on him and guess what, we got the same for Manny too,” said Mayweather.
Roger continued, “We got something for this mother f**ker. He ain’t doing nothing but living on borrowed time and he knows it.”
“Manny can’t fight. He ain’t shit.”
Mayweather then turned his ire to me, “I heard you thought it would take my nephew eight rounds to finish Pacquiao. You’re crazy.”
“You must be being kind, but blind,” he added, “Floyd won’t take eight rounds to finish Manny. How can you say it’ll take eight rounds when this f*cking bum (Manny) swings wild, has no head movement or defense and ain’t got no f*cking skills in the ring?”
Mayweather offers yet another question to his captive audience, “Who the f*ck has two close fights with (Juan Manuel) Marquez?”
“Manny does. He’s a f*cking bum living on borrowed time and we got something for his ass.”
“The year ain’t over yet and there’s still plenty of time to fight.”
“I’m sure you’ll see Floyd fight before the year’s out,” proclaimed Mayweather.
Aside from revealing his belief that Floyd will fight in the near future, he finished with a message to Manny Pacquiao.
“Come on mother f**cker, meet us.”
In another piece, Roger and I discuss Cotto, catchweights, and the upcoming Antonio Margarito/Manny Pacquiao title fight.
Fightchronicles.com, boxscorenews.com -You ever get those calls on your phone where you don’t recognize the number calling you so you let the phone ring until it goes to voice mail?
Usually this will suffice the caller’s needs and they will proceed with leaving a voice message in your mail center and wait for your return contact. However, every now and again, the caller will be persistant and leaving a message will only go so far in their eyes. They need more.
Well three calls and one voice message (marked urgent on my cell phone) later, it was apparent that someone was itching to “reach out and touch someone”; me. The person with the itch was none other than Roger Mayweather.
Needless to say, I returned his calls.
“This fight has to happen; we want this fight,” exclaimed Roger Mayweather.
“The fight for my nephew is Manny. This is the fight that makes the most sense when talking about money making, but also, this fight has to happen cause it’s important to the fans. The people want to see this fight and they should get what they want.”
“I’m hearing people say my nephew’s (multi-world champion Floyd Mayweather Jr.) scared of Manny Pacquiao. Floyd ain’t scared of Manny. Lil’ Floyd ain’t scared of sh*t, why should he be?” Mayweather continued, “Let me ask this question, who’s been knocked out twice?”
Roger is clearly talking about the two pound-for-pound combatants that were expected to do battle in the “biggest fight in boxing history” sometime this year-undefeated slick boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr. and the crowd pleasing, heavy handed Manny Pacquiao. However, the dream fight that was, failed to materialize and since has become a nightmare for all involved.
From the network suits to the promoters all the way down to the sweet science fans themselves and everyone in between, the sentiment is mutual, we’ve all been robbed of witnessing greatness in the squared circle.
Many people are blaming Floyd Mayweather Jr. for this fight not taking place. Originally, the fight was proposed with stipulations from the Mayweather camp that Pacquiao submit to random blood tests prior to the fight.
Pacquiao scoffed at this request believing that taking blood from his body would hinder his ability to be at full strength for the fight.
Because of this, the fight was nixed until talks allegedly resumed again over the summer.
This time, Pacquiao stated he would be willing to partake in blood tests, but only if the tests were scheduled to cease fourteen days prior to the scheduled bout with Mayweather.
With that, Pacquiao’s promoter, Bob Arum from Top Rank boxing, initialized a very public deadline for Mayweather to agree to these terms or forfeit the chance to dethrone the “People’s Champion”.
The deadline came and went and no one has heard much from the Mayweather camp about this matter until now.
“The only reason this fight hasn’t happened is because Manny won’t agree to random blood tests throughout training camp,” Roger said.
“This motherf**ker says he agreed to tests, but he really didn’t,” Mayweather continues, “he wants to know when these tests are happening and he wants them to end at a certain time.”
“How the f*ck is that random drug testing?”
He asks, “If you got nothing to hide, then why be so concerned about when you gotta take a drug test?”
“How you gonna leave over 100 million dollars on the table cause you don’t want to take random drug tests leading up to the fight?”
“I know why. ‘Cause you got something to hide,” said Roger.
I’m not sure if Manny is hiding something, but I am curious as to why Floyd is adamant about cleaning up the sport of boxing via random blood tests. Why now? Why go 40 bouts into your career and suddenly demand your opponents submit to Olympic style testing?
Mayweather answered, “My nephew brought this testing up because going into the fight with Shane Mosley, Shane had a history of using substances. And now with Manny, we got our suspicions.”
“Floyd ain’t asking no one to do nothing that he isn’t willing to do himself.”
“You saw what happened when we got Shane in that ring; Floyd put an ass whooping on him and guess what, we got the same for Manny too,” said Mayweather.
Roger continued, “We got something for this mother f**ker. He ain’t doing nothing but living on borrowed time and he knows it.”
“Manny can’t fight. He ain’t shit.”
Mayweather then turned his ire to me, “I heard you thought it would take my nephew eight rounds to finish Pacquiao. You’re crazy.”
“You must be being kind, but blind,” he added, “Floyd won’t take eight rounds to finish Manny. How can you say it’ll take eight rounds when this f*cking bum (Manny) swings wild, has no head movement or defense and ain’t got no f*cking skills in the ring?”
Mayweather offers yet another question to his captive audience, “Who the f*ck has two close fights with (Juan Manuel) Marquez?”
“Manny does. He’s a f*cking bum living on borrowed time and we got something for his ass.”
“The year ain’t over yet and there’s still plenty of time to fight.”
“I’m sure you’ll see Floyd fight before the year’s out,” proclaimed Mayweather.
Aside from revealing his belief that Floyd will fight in the near future, he finished with a message to Manny Pacquiao.
“Come on mother f**cker, meet us.”
In another piece, Roger and I discuss Cotto, catchweights, and the upcoming Antonio Margarito/Manny Pacquiao title fight.
Still no venue for Dirrell vs. Ward bout
By Jim Dower: World Boxing Association super middleweight champion Andre Ward (22-0, 13 KO’s) says he doesn’t know where the venue will be for his September 25th Super Six stage 3 fight against fellow American and Olympian Andre Dirrell (19-1, 13 KO’s). In an interview at Eastsideboxing.com, Ward said “I can’t say much. Just waiting to hear right now. I don’t worry about that. My goal is to be ready and avoid slipping at all times.” Ward, 26, has fought twice at home already in his two fights in the Super Six tournament, whereas Dirrell has fought once at home and once away.
Because of that, Dirrell and his promoter Gary Shaw want the September 25th fight to take place in Dirrell’s home state of Michigan, in Detroit. However, Ward’s promoter wants the fight to be held in Oakland, where Ward has been drawing huge crowds of over 10,000 for his two fights in the Super Six tourney. In contrast, Dirrell drew only a small crowd of less than 5000 for his fight against Arthur Abraham last March. The best chance of making good money is if the fight takes place in Oakland, California.
However, Dirrell doesn’t like the idea of fighting in front of a huge pro-Ward crowd and you can’t really blame him for that. If the fight takes place in a neutral venue, whether New York or Las Vegas, it will likely draw far fewer fans because Dirrell and Ward still aren’t likely well known enough to draw huge crowds outside of their home states.
By Jim Dower: World Boxing Association super middleweight champion Andre Ward (22-0, 13 KO’s) says he doesn’t know where the venue will be for his September 25th Super Six stage 3 fight against fellow American and Olympian Andre Dirrell (19-1, 13 KO’s). In an interview at Eastsideboxing.com, Ward said “I can’t say much. Just waiting to hear right now. I don’t worry about that. My goal is to be ready and avoid slipping at all times.” Ward, 26, has fought twice at home already in his two fights in the Super Six tournament, whereas Dirrell has fought once at home and once away.
Because of that, Dirrell and his promoter Gary Shaw want the September 25th fight to take place in Dirrell’s home state of Michigan, in Detroit. However, Ward’s promoter wants the fight to be held in Oakland, where Ward has been drawing huge crowds of over 10,000 for his two fights in the Super Six tourney. In contrast, Dirrell drew only a small crowd of less than 5000 for his fight against Arthur Abraham last March. The best chance of making good money is if the fight takes place in Oakland, California.
However, Dirrell doesn’t like the idea of fighting in front of a huge pro-Ward crowd and you can’t really blame him for that. If the fight takes place in a neutral venue, whether New York or Las Vegas, it will likely draw far fewer fans because Dirrell and Ward still aren’t likely well known enough to draw huge crowds outside of their home states.
bummer, JuanMa vs Rafa Marquez is off, Marquez injured his thumb in training.
http://www.elnuevodia.com/suspendenpeleaentrejuanmalopezyrafamarquez-762876.html
JuanMa should just fight Caballero
http://www.elnuevodia.com/suspendenpeleaentrejuanmalopezyrafamarquez-762876.html
JuanMa should just fight Caballero
God damn, what does Caballero have to do to fight JuanMa?
Caballero: I'm Ready To Replace Marquez, Fight Juanma
By Ryan Burton
BoxingScene.com reached out to Celestino "Pelenchin" Caballero to gauge his interest in filling in for the injured Rafael Marquez, who reportedly pulled out of his September 18th fight against Juan Manuel Lopez. Caballero told BoxingScene - "Of course I am interested in fighting Juanma. I know that Rafa and Juanma were going to make good money for that fight so I am sure Juanma and I will get good money to fight."
When asked if four weeks was enough time to prepare for the fight El Pelenchin said "I will be ready brother. Just tell Juanma's people to talk to my team and make a good offer. Give me what Rafa was getting or what Juanma is getting. This is the fight I have wanted for years."
Caballero knows Showtime and the MGM Grand put up good money for the Lopez-Marquez showdown and that Team Juanma is in a bind if they want to keep the September date. The big issue, which probably prevents the fight from happening in that venue, is how a fight with two non-Mexicans would sell during a weekend to celebrate Mexican Independence day.
"They have to fight me. (Elio) Rojas is injured. Chris John is always hurt or sick lately so who else can they fight? Gamboa is fighting the week before. Juanma has to fight me unless they want to cancel the show. There is no one else."
Caballero finished our conversation by saying, "I hope this fight goes down. The fans want to see a great fight and El Pelenchin versus Juanma is a way better fight than Juanma versus a beat up Rafa Marquez."
Caballero: I'm Ready To Replace Marquez, Fight Juanma
By Ryan Burton
BoxingScene.com reached out to Celestino "Pelenchin" Caballero to gauge his interest in filling in for the injured Rafael Marquez, who reportedly pulled out of his September 18th fight against Juan Manuel Lopez. Caballero told BoxingScene - "Of course I am interested in fighting Juanma. I know that Rafa and Juanma were going to make good money for that fight so I am sure Juanma and I will get good money to fight."
When asked if four weeks was enough time to prepare for the fight El Pelenchin said "I will be ready brother. Just tell Juanma's people to talk to my team and make a good offer. Give me what Rafa was getting or what Juanma is getting. This is the fight I have wanted for years."
Caballero knows Showtime and the MGM Grand put up good money for the Lopez-Marquez showdown and that Team Juanma is in a bind if they want to keep the September date. The big issue, which probably prevents the fight from happening in that venue, is how a fight with two non-Mexicans would sell during a weekend to celebrate Mexican Independence day.
"They have to fight me. (Elio) Rojas is injured. Chris John is always hurt or sick lately so who else can they fight? Gamboa is fighting the week before. Juanma has to fight me unless they want to cancel the show. There is no one else."
Caballero finished our conversation by saying, "I hope this fight goes down. The fans want to see a great fight and El Pelenchin versus Juanma is a way better fight than Juanma versus a beat up Rafa Marquez."
Gamboa vs Caballero Clash is On The Mind of HBO
By Jhonny Gonzalez
In a recent interview, promoter Lou DiBella stated that HBO is very interested in a fight between WBA featherweight champion Yuriorkis Gamboa and rival Celestino Caballero. The date of September 11, Gamboa will make his return to Las Vegas to face IBF champion Orlando Salido in a unification encounter that HBO will televise. Caballero is rumored to take part in a tripleheader event on October 2.
DiBella says Caballero needs to take a fight before a potenial match with Gamboa. Caballero has not fought since an April decision win against Daud Yordan.
"HBO wants the fight and it could happen later this year or in early 2011. The truth is that he (Caballero) has to have a fight before a possible fight with Gamboa," said DiBella to PA Digital. "After Gamboa fights with Salido, look for the fight against Caballero."
By Jhonny Gonzalez
In a recent interview, promoter Lou DiBella stated that HBO is very interested in a fight between WBA featherweight champion Yuriorkis Gamboa and rival Celestino Caballero. The date of September 11, Gamboa will make his return to Las Vegas to face IBF champion Orlando Salido in a unification encounter that HBO will televise. Caballero is rumored to take part in a tripleheader event on October 2.
DiBella says Caballero needs to take a fight before a potenial match with Gamboa. Caballero has not fought since an April decision win against Daud Yordan.
"HBO wants the fight and it could happen later this year or in early 2011. The truth is that he (Caballero) has to have a fight before a possible fight with Gamboa," said DiBella to PA Digital. "After Gamboa fights with Salido, look for the fight against Caballero."
The reason Floyd Mayweather is ignoring us
By Douglas Bastiste: With the boxing world hungry, I mean starving, for this generation’s mega fight against Money Mayweather and Manny Pacquaio, we were left only to digest Floyd’s last public statement. “I’m just relaxing; I fought about 60 days ago, so I’m enjoying myself, enjoying life, enjoying my family, enjoying my vacation.” Negotiations failed for the second time when Bob Arum, Top Rank owner and Manny Pacquaio promoter, gave Mayweather Jr. a public deadline; which didn’t even arouse a defensive response from Floyd. Since then, it’s been an all out blitz trying to corner Pretty Boy Floyd to speak out. Headline after headline has characterized Floyd as a coward, hoping it would lure the undefeated boxer into a press conference. The only thing the scrutiny has provoked is more frustration, and a continued silence from the Mayweather camp.
I must admit there isn’t a boxing fan more frustrated with this pound for pound king drama that doesn’t seem to have an ending. First Pacquaio received the blame, now Mayweather has inherited it, and the bottom line is the fight isn’t happening, at least not this year. Even after accepting that harsh reality, I find myself daily checking boxing websites for the latest on Floyd Mayweather. Everyday there has been a new article repeating what every boxing insider previously stated. No fight between the two boxing giants and some way insinuating, or just stating, their belief that Floyd is scared. Basically calling him out, and receiving nothing more than silence.
I’ve followed Floyd Mayweather most of his career and I haven’t seen a more masterful boxer since his 41-0 career began. With his less than modest approach to the media and verbal assault of opponents before fights, it no wander he is boxing own public enemy number one. I believe Floyd relishes in that title because it is one reason he is also the sport’s biggest draw. Love him or hate him, you are paying to see him fight. Over the years boxing analyst has picked many fighters to be the Mayweather code cracker; only to be let down after Floyd dominants them. Instead of a humble recant of failed predictions it’s often an excuse on behalf of the losing opponent, but never to Floyd’s credit.
Unfortunately I can’t tell you guys when Floyd will fight again, and if he is going to fight Pacquaio, but I can tell you why he is ignoring us. It’s because Floyd Mayweather is patient which is a trait that has contributed to his success. He has never lost a fight; even in the most pressing situations his patience in the ring has allowed him to outsmart all of those opponents. He has managed to return to boxing after a twenty one month layoff and become the sports main topic. Ask yourself a question person who loves media attention more than Mayweather? Floyd has never been at a loss for words and all of a sudden doesn’t jump to defend his name. A name he is very proud of and considers the GOAT. To understand his approach or non response you have to understand Floyd Mayweather, the business man.
First let me state, this fight not taken place yet, has nothing to do with a fear of losing. All fighters undefeated or not, deal with the fear of losing. Champions respond to the fear with confidence and courage, trusting their preparation. In one breath, we credit Mayweather for his business sense and self promotion, and in the next breath we claim he would pass on the biggest grossing fight in history to protect his record. A claim that’s not consistent with the man we know as Money Mayweather.
The truth is he is patient enough not to allow our journalistic antics to force him to respond. Although negotiations were publicly ended by Bob Arum, he and Mayweather both know the negotiations for this are never ending. Any negotiation is about leverage and both promotion companies know that everything that happens to their fighter before the mega fight either gives or takes away leverage. Arum was savvy enough to break the gag order first and get media approval to move on. Floyd decided to totally ignore it and to the date hasn’t even acknowledged a deadline.
Mayweather never had intentions on fighting again this year, as he never stated nor implied that he would. We wanted it, but the problem is we are not patient, and we shouldn’t be. We are boxing fans who are desperate for this matchup. And that is the very reason Floyd isn’t rushing to appease us, at least not in November. The sport is suffering so much that we can’t respect when someone says they are taking a break. The very character traits that we try to balance as human beings, we are telling Floyd to deny. If you tell someone you are on vacation spending time with your family after you’ve done your job, and their response is we don’t want to hear it. How would you respond?
If you have fought your whole career defying all expectations, only to get in return you owe us more. To beat every fighter you faced and most of the time convincingly. Only to hear the next day it wasn’t because of what you did. Floyd has listened to the media alter his words time and time again. At this point the man is saying why speaks now. As fans all we want to hear is when you are fighting Pacquaio anyway. You think Floyd doesn’t know that.
I believe Floyd wants to fight Manny, even more than Manny wants to fight him, but Mayweather also feels he is the bigger draw. Floyd is being patient because Arum is watching and looking for a way to get an advantage. Floyd is showing he is in control and even media pressure will not help Arum get favorable leverage in negotiations. The fact that we are discussing this more than Pacquaio’s next fight is the reason he knows he doesn’t have to speak right now. Just recently, Pacquaio called out Mayweather, something Floyd has been trying to provoke since the beginning. You tell me, in his silence who is gaining leverage? His opportunity to speak out will come. November 13, Arum and Pacquaio are fighting for leverage, mean while Floyd is sending the message he doesn’t have to fight for something he has already earned. I’m talking about negotiating power.
By Douglas Bastiste: With the boxing world hungry, I mean starving, for this generation’s mega fight against Money Mayweather and Manny Pacquaio, we were left only to digest Floyd’s last public statement. “I’m just relaxing; I fought about 60 days ago, so I’m enjoying myself, enjoying life, enjoying my family, enjoying my vacation.” Negotiations failed for the second time when Bob Arum, Top Rank owner and Manny Pacquaio promoter, gave Mayweather Jr. a public deadline; which didn’t even arouse a defensive response from Floyd. Since then, it’s been an all out blitz trying to corner Pretty Boy Floyd to speak out. Headline after headline has characterized Floyd as a coward, hoping it would lure the undefeated boxer into a press conference. The only thing the scrutiny has provoked is more frustration, and a continued silence from the Mayweather camp.
I must admit there isn’t a boxing fan more frustrated with this pound for pound king drama that doesn’t seem to have an ending. First Pacquaio received the blame, now Mayweather has inherited it, and the bottom line is the fight isn’t happening, at least not this year. Even after accepting that harsh reality, I find myself daily checking boxing websites for the latest on Floyd Mayweather. Everyday there has been a new article repeating what every boxing insider previously stated. No fight between the two boxing giants and some way insinuating, or just stating, their belief that Floyd is scared. Basically calling him out, and receiving nothing more than silence.
I’ve followed Floyd Mayweather most of his career and I haven’t seen a more masterful boxer since his 41-0 career began. With his less than modest approach to the media and verbal assault of opponents before fights, it no wander he is boxing own public enemy number one. I believe Floyd relishes in that title because it is one reason he is also the sport’s biggest draw. Love him or hate him, you are paying to see him fight. Over the years boxing analyst has picked many fighters to be the Mayweather code cracker; only to be let down after Floyd dominants them. Instead of a humble recant of failed predictions it’s often an excuse on behalf of the losing opponent, but never to Floyd’s credit.
Unfortunately I can’t tell you guys when Floyd will fight again, and if he is going to fight Pacquaio, but I can tell you why he is ignoring us. It’s because Floyd Mayweather is patient which is a trait that has contributed to his success. He has never lost a fight; even in the most pressing situations his patience in the ring has allowed him to outsmart all of those opponents. He has managed to return to boxing after a twenty one month layoff and become the sports main topic. Ask yourself a question person who loves media attention more than Mayweather? Floyd has never been at a loss for words and all of a sudden doesn’t jump to defend his name. A name he is very proud of and considers the GOAT. To understand his approach or non response you have to understand Floyd Mayweather, the business man.
First let me state, this fight not taken place yet, has nothing to do with a fear of losing. All fighters undefeated or not, deal with the fear of losing. Champions respond to the fear with confidence and courage, trusting their preparation. In one breath, we credit Mayweather for his business sense and self promotion, and in the next breath we claim he would pass on the biggest grossing fight in history to protect his record. A claim that’s not consistent with the man we know as Money Mayweather.
The truth is he is patient enough not to allow our journalistic antics to force him to respond. Although negotiations were publicly ended by Bob Arum, he and Mayweather both know the negotiations for this are never ending. Any negotiation is about leverage and both promotion companies know that everything that happens to their fighter before the mega fight either gives or takes away leverage. Arum was savvy enough to break the gag order first and get media approval to move on. Floyd decided to totally ignore it and to the date hasn’t even acknowledged a deadline.
Mayweather never had intentions on fighting again this year, as he never stated nor implied that he would. We wanted it, but the problem is we are not patient, and we shouldn’t be. We are boxing fans who are desperate for this matchup. And that is the very reason Floyd isn’t rushing to appease us, at least not in November. The sport is suffering so much that we can’t respect when someone says they are taking a break. The very character traits that we try to balance as human beings, we are telling Floyd to deny. If you tell someone you are on vacation spending time with your family after you’ve done your job, and their response is we don’t want to hear it. How would you respond?
If you have fought your whole career defying all expectations, only to get in return you owe us more. To beat every fighter you faced and most of the time convincingly. Only to hear the next day it wasn’t because of what you did. Floyd has listened to the media alter his words time and time again. At this point the man is saying why speaks now. As fans all we want to hear is when you are fighting Pacquaio anyway. You think Floyd doesn’t know that.
I believe Floyd wants to fight Manny, even more than Manny wants to fight him, but Mayweather also feels he is the bigger draw. Floyd is being patient because Arum is watching and looking for a way to get an advantage. Floyd is showing he is in control and even media pressure will not help Arum get favorable leverage in negotiations. The fact that we are discussing this more than Pacquaio’s next fight is the reason he knows he doesn’t have to speak right now. Just recently, Pacquaio called out Mayweather, something Floyd has been trying to provoke since the beginning. You tell me, in his silence who is gaining leverage? His opportunity to speak out will come. November 13, Arum and Pacquaio are fighting for leverage, mean while Floyd is sending the message he doesn’t have to fight for something he has already earned. I’m talking about negotiating power.