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Call Em Out Fridays: Joan Guzman - Undefeated Despite One Major Loss
19.09.08 - By Vivek Wallace:
Every week in my 'Call Em Out Fridays' segment we put one of the sports perennial figures under the microscope and examine the media buzz around them to see if they're fact or fraud. With so many key figures in the sport making headlines, a recent email from an avid fight fan provided more than enough reason to place the bulls eye on one target and one target only. Good thing my 'call-outs' are never designed to be one dimensional because there really isn't too many positive opinions relative to today's subject. Somehow when it's all said and done, like always, we'll take a look at the fan supportive perspective, the critics perspective, and once I drop my spin on the table, we'll let the great debates begin. So with no further ado, we now examine the Dominican Republic's latest question mark......
Joan Guzman - (Fan Supportive Perspective): From the very beginning, many fight fans saw much to love about Joan Guzman. Lacing up the leather since the tender age of 8, Dominican Republican standout Joan Guzman knew exactly what he wanted to do with his future. His amateur background laid the blueprint as he earned victories in 310 out of 320, and his contained yet very exuberant ego was perfect for a fighter that earned himself the nickname "El Pequeno Tyson" (the little Tyson). His claim to fame was his speed and reflexes, but his most natural gift was probably his defensive prowess. Combined, he was able to make most miss and frequently make them pay. One of the most gifted counter punchers in the sport today, Guzman has been able to use his skill set to effectively toy with many fighters, and rarely has he lost more than three rounds or more in a fight. As if his already above average skills weren't enough, he employed the services of one of the sports top trainers, Mr. Floyd Mayweather Sr. The pairing between the two seemed to be a very good fit, as Mayweather was able to build on top of the fundamentals that Guzman already came equipped with. As Guzman worked his way up the rankings he would become a fan favorite who most saw to be destined for the very top in the sport. Thus far, he's been able to coast up the weight classes with no apparent end in sight.....And that's precisely what has most around the sport suddenly questioning this extremely talented figure. After literally walking down all of the competition between the super-bantamweight and a super-featherweight divisions, recent weight issues have led some to ask whether or not this Dominican lightweight prefers to find a place among the sports unconditioned 'heavy' weights. Which is where the critics perspective comes into play......
Joan Guzman - (The Critics Perspective): In recent times, it seems that Guzman has been rather plagued with a number of issues, weight being his most prominent one. Everything from weight issues, to mysterious visa problems, to late camp injuries, Guzman has somehow found a way to raise more and more questions about him as not only a fighter, but also as a man. Fight fans are perhaps the most finicky on the planet, and when a fighter fails to make numerous appearances in a certain time span, the very ground around them tends to get a bit shaky. Inside the ring there are few complaints about Guzman, but decisions and actions outside the ring have left many wondering whether or not this guys 'elevator' goes to the top floor or not? That unfortunate parallel brings more similarities to the nickname 'little Tyson' than anything else he's done in recent times. Critics have already begun to fill up papers and internet space with several hypothetical ranging from severe personal problems, to fear of the opposition, to easily a dozen other possibilities. At the end of the day, without all the facts, they all become endless speculation, however, continuity of the same issues and antics lead most to give far more credibility to those thoughts. With a trail of embarrassment and a major need for damage control, the world of boxing now shines the spotlight on Guzman to see what can possibly be next. Does he press the issue with Nate Campbell and engage in the inevitable?, or does he simply let the questions remain and find a safer opponent to tangle with? As it stands, no one is quite sure right now, but the longer he waits to correct his recent actions, the more he subjects himself to the odds of facing contractual stipulations and other parameters from promoters who have fighters that won't let a chance to take his "O" slip away as easily as Campbell was forced to. All in all, the road ahead for Guzman appears to be a very rocky one...Particularly if he fails to deliver some time soon.
Joan Guzman - (This Writers Perspective): Anyone who follows my work on ESB knows that this is a very sore spot in my mind. What Guzman has done to get out of recent fights was all but forgiven and forgotten until this debacle came along. I think fight fans in general - perhaps even those who admire his talent - have all gotten a bit perturbed with the recent actions of Guzman. Where he goes from here is totally up to him, but if my advice means anything, I hope like hell he's considering a campaign somewhere in the jr. welterweight division or greater. Reports have placed his non-camp weight everywhere from 160 lbs to 185 lbs, and although I don't know which is true, both are far too heavy for a guy trying to campaign at lightweight (135 lbs). In my 'Left-Hook Lounge' segment on Wednesday, I spoke about the fact that Guzman and many other athletes have that 'silk pajamas' mindset where they simply forget the blood, sweat, and tears that it took to get them where they're at. Guzman's actions to me are a classic example because their is no way in hell that a Mayweather trained fighter comes into any fight unprepared. If you can't get your psyche right after spending an entire camp around that walking ego - (which is an attribute to his fighters) - I have no idea what it takes to pump you up. I'm pretty down on Guzman as a fighter, but man to man, I hope he gets himself together and puts his great talent to use. My direct words to Guzman, "if your body won't allow you to reach the lightweight limit, eat your apple pie ala mode once a week and setup a match at 140 with Hatton or Bradley. If the cadence of those Mickey "D" fries or Mom's platano's are too tough to dance around, take it 7 pounds north to the welterweight division and roll the dice with the real big money players. Whatever you decide, keep your fans and your love for the sport first and even in defeat, you can't lose. Fortunately, life comes with an eraser - (which is time) - so use it to help the fight world forget the past, then use your head to write a better future"! Bueno Suerte Amigo!
19.09.08 - By Vivek Wallace:
Every week in my 'Call Em Out Fridays' segment we put one of the sports perennial figures under the microscope and examine the media buzz around them to see if they're fact or fraud. With so many key figures in the sport making headlines, a recent email from an avid fight fan provided more than enough reason to place the bulls eye on one target and one target only. Good thing my 'call-outs' are never designed to be one dimensional because there really isn't too many positive opinions relative to today's subject. Somehow when it's all said and done, like always, we'll take a look at the fan supportive perspective, the critics perspective, and once I drop my spin on the table, we'll let the great debates begin. So with no further ado, we now examine the Dominican Republic's latest question mark......
Joan Guzman - (Fan Supportive Perspective): From the very beginning, many fight fans saw much to love about Joan Guzman. Lacing up the leather since the tender age of 8, Dominican Republican standout Joan Guzman knew exactly what he wanted to do with his future. His amateur background laid the blueprint as he earned victories in 310 out of 320, and his contained yet very exuberant ego was perfect for a fighter that earned himself the nickname "El Pequeno Tyson" (the little Tyson). His claim to fame was his speed and reflexes, but his most natural gift was probably his defensive prowess. Combined, he was able to make most miss and frequently make them pay. One of the most gifted counter punchers in the sport today, Guzman has been able to use his skill set to effectively toy with many fighters, and rarely has he lost more than three rounds or more in a fight. As if his already above average skills weren't enough, he employed the services of one of the sports top trainers, Mr. Floyd Mayweather Sr. The pairing between the two seemed to be a very good fit, as Mayweather was able to build on top of the fundamentals that Guzman already came equipped with. As Guzman worked his way up the rankings he would become a fan favorite who most saw to be destined for the very top in the sport. Thus far, he's been able to coast up the weight classes with no apparent end in sight.....And that's precisely what has most around the sport suddenly questioning this extremely talented figure. After literally walking down all of the competition between the super-bantamweight and a super-featherweight divisions, recent weight issues have led some to ask whether or not this Dominican lightweight prefers to find a place among the sports unconditioned 'heavy' weights. Which is where the critics perspective comes into play......
Joan Guzman - (The Critics Perspective): In recent times, it seems that Guzman has been rather plagued with a number of issues, weight being his most prominent one. Everything from weight issues, to mysterious visa problems, to late camp injuries, Guzman has somehow found a way to raise more and more questions about him as not only a fighter, but also as a man. Fight fans are perhaps the most finicky on the planet, and when a fighter fails to make numerous appearances in a certain time span, the very ground around them tends to get a bit shaky. Inside the ring there are few complaints about Guzman, but decisions and actions outside the ring have left many wondering whether or not this guys 'elevator' goes to the top floor or not? That unfortunate parallel brings more similarities to the nickname 'little Tyson' than anything else he's done in recent times. Critics have already begun to fill up papers and internet space with several hypothetical ranging from severe personal problems, to fear of the opposition, to easily a dozen other possibilities. At the end of the day, without all the facts, they all become endless speculation, however, continuity of the same issues and antics lead most to give far more credibility to those thoughts. With a trail of embarrassment and a major need for damage control, the world of boxing now shines the spotlight on Guzman to see what can possibly be next. Does he press the issue with Nate Campbell and engage in the inevitable?, or does he simply let the questions remain and find a safer opponent to tangle with? As it stands, no one is quite sure right now, but the longer he waits to correct his recent actions, the more he subjects himself to the odds of facing contractual stipulations and other parameters from promoters who have fighters that won't let a chance to take his "O" slip away as easily as Campbell was forced to. All in all, the road ahead for Guzman appears to be a very rocky one...Particularly if he fails to deliver some time soon.
Joan Guzman - (This Writers Perspective): Anyone who follows my work on ESB knows that this is a very sore spot in my mind. What Guzman has done to get out of recent fights was all but forgiven and forgotten until this debacle came along. I think fight fans in general - perhaps even those who admire his talent - have all gotten a bit perturbed with the recent actions of Guzman. Where he goes from here is totally up to him, but if my advice means anything, I hope like hell he's considering a campaign somewhere in the jr. welterweight division or greater. Reports have placed his non-camp weight everywhere from 160 lbs to 185 lbs, and although I don't know which is true, both are far too heavy for a guy trying to campaign at lightweight (135 lbs). In my 'Left-Hook Lounge' segment on Wednesday, I spoke about the fact that Guzman and many other athletes have that 'silk pajamas' mindset where they simply forget the blood, sweat, and tears that it took to get them where they're at. Guzman's actions to me are a classic example because their is no way in hell that a Mayweather trained fighter comes into any fight unprepared. If you can't get your psyche right after spending an entire camp around that walking ego - (which is an attribute to his fighters) - I have no idea what it takes to pump you up. I'm pretty down on Guzman as a fighter, but man to man, I hope he gets himself together and puts his great talent to use. My direct words to Guzman, "if your body won't allow you to reach the lightweight limit, eat your apple pie ala mode once a week and setup a match at 140 with Hatton or Bradley. If the cadence of those Mickey "D" fries or Mom's platano's are too tough to dance around, take it 7 pounds north to the welterweight division and roll the dice with the real big money players. Whatever you decide, keep your fans and your love for the sport first and even in defeat, you can't lose. Fortunately, life comes with an eraser - (which is time) - so use it to help the fight world forget the past, then use your head to write a better future"! Bueno Suerte Amigo!
David Haye Race is Down To Chambers and Barrett
By Rick Reeno
According to a source in Golden Boy Promotions, the lottery to fight David Haye (21-1, 20KOs) on November 15 at the O2 Arena in London is about to have a winner. Two opponents are in the running, Eddie Chambers (31-1, 17KOs) who we knew, and the newest candidate being considered is Monte Barrett (34-6, 20KOs).
BoxingScene.com was advised that former heavyweight champion Ray Mercer is not in the running, despite conflicting reports on other sites. As of this moment, Chambers and Barrett are the only two fighters at the top of the list. Both Chambers and Barrett are very eager to land the fight.
Haye's opponent for his re-debut at heavyweight can change at any time. For months former champion Hasim Rahman was the speculated opponent, then it changed prospect Kevin Johnson, and then it moved over to another prospect, JD Chapman, who turned the fight down.
Chambers has only one defeat, to Alexander Povetkin by decision. Barrett has a lot of experience and recently blew out 6'8 Tye Fields in one-round
By Rick Reeno
According to a source in Golden Boy Promotions, the lottery to fight David Haye (21-1, 20KOs) on November 15 at the O2 Arena in London is about to have a winner. Two opponents are in the running, Eddie Chambers (31-1, 17KOs) who we knew, and the newest candidate being considered is Monte Barrett (34-6, 20KOs).
BoxingScene.com was advised that former heavyweight champion Ray Mercer is not in the running, despite conflicting reports on other sites. As of this moment, Chambers and Barrett are the only two fighters at the top of the list. Both Chambers and Barrett are very eager to land the fight.
Haye's opponent for his re-debut at heavyweight can change at any time. For months former champion Hasim Rahman was the speculated opponent, then it changed prospect Kevin Johnson, and then it moved over to another prospect, JD Chapman, who turned the fight down.
Chambers has only one defeat, to Alexander Povetkin by decision. Barrett has a lot of experience and recently blew out 6'8 Tye Fields in one-round
Bernard Hopkins: "I Will Expose Kelly Pavlik Like Trinidad"
By Mark Vester
Bernard Hopkins plans to expose the style of WBO/WBC middleweight champ Kelly Pavlik in the same manner as Felix Trinidad. Hopkins, a big underdog, dominated Trinidad on the route to knocking him out in 2001. Hopkins collides with Pavlik at the catch-weight of 170-pounds on October 18 in Atlantic City on pay-per-view.
"Come October 18 you're going to see craftsmanship at his best. Styles make fights. When you have a guy who fights coming forward like Kelly Pavlik and you've got a counter-puncher like Bernard Hopkins, it's a little different from Roy Jones and Joe Calzaghe," Hopkins told Steve Bunce's Boxing Hour.
"I'm going to fight him with intelligence, with crafsmanship and experience and unless he's learning something new, he's going to fight as he has his last 34 opponents with 30 knockouts. You're not going to change something that's working."
Hopkins say the plan will be to use all of Pavlik's talents against him, like he did with Trinidad. He doesn't think Pavlik has enough tools to switch up his style during the fight, making him wide open for a systematic breakdown.
"My plan is to take what he does best and use it against him. Do remember about the awesome left hook Felix Trinidad had when he was undefeated. What happened to that left hook? When a guy has a bullet in the chamber and he has one and he doesn't have the other seven. I don't know what kind of gun he has," Hopkins said. "With anyone else he might not be in trouble. With Bernard Hopkins you need more than one bullet in the chamber."
"That's what the outcome is going to show the world. They'll say: 'Wait a minute, did he just systematically take his most important weapon and use it against him?'
By Mark Vester
Bernard Hopkins plans to expose the style of WBO/WBC middleweight champ Kelly Pavlik in the same manner as Felix Trinidad. Hopkins, a big underdog, dominated Trinidad on the route to knocking him out in 2001. Hopkins collides with Pavlik at the catch-weight of 170-pounds on October 18 in Atlantic City on pay-per-view.
"Come October 18 you're going to see craftsmanship at his best. Styles make fights. When you have a guy who fights coming forward like Kelly Pavlik and you've got a counter-puncher like Bernard Hopkins, it's a little different from Roy Jones and Joe Calzaghe," Hopkins told Steve Bunce's Boxing Hour.
"I'm going to fight him with intelligence, with crafsmanship and experience and unless he's learning something new, he's going to fight as he has his last 34 opponents with 30 knockouts. You're not going to change something that's working."
Hopkins say the plan will be to use all of Pavlik's talents against him, like he did with Trinidad. He doesn't think Pavlik has enough tools to switch up his style during the fight, making him wide open for a systematic breakdown.
"My plan is to take what he does best and use it against him. Do remember about the awesome left hook Felix Trinidad had when he was undefeated. What happened to that left hook? When a guy has a bullet in the chamber and he has one and he doesn't have the other seven. I don't know what kind of gun he has," Hopkins said. "With anyone else he might not be in trouble. With Bernard Hopkins you need more than one bullet in the chamber."
"That's what the outcome is going to show the world. They'll say: 'Wait a minute, did he just systematically take his most important weapon and use it against him?'
Golden Boy Prom. vs. Pacquiao: A Hollow War of Words
By Cliff Rold
To hear Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer tell it, Manny Pacquiao must be a man of great internal honesty. To hear Schaefer tell it, Manny has to have looked deep into his soul and recognized his own flaws, his own impending doom.
Pacquiao doesn’t want, and didn’t take when he could have, a third fight with now crowned Lightweight champion of the World Juan Manuel Marquez.
He fled the challenge.
He took the easy way out.
Okay, maybe it wasn’t stated in such grandiose terms, but the terms used are just as rich. Their wealth springs not from what has been said, but from what hasn’t. BoxingScene regulars have followed the bouncing links (check em’ out; they’re all still up) this week as a sort of war of words has broken out between GBP’s lead spokesman and one Manny Pacquiao.
Let’s recap the highlights.
1. “There’s no way Bob Arum and Pacquiao are going to fight him again,” Schaefer was quoted as saying by Kevin Iole. “I don’t think Pacquiao wants anything to do with Juan Manuel Marquez any more."
2. “I’m willing to fight him any time. But since I will be the promoter, he must first accept all the conditions I will ask including a smaller purse [for him]," Pacquiao said. “If he agrees to the conditions, I know he is fighting for honor and I will fight him. If not, he’s only after getting big purse."
3. "The money for Pacquiao-Marquez fight is there so it cannot be the money. Manny knows he could have made more money fighting Juan Manuel Marquez, far more money, than he made by fighting David Diaz in his last fight…I believe he knows Juan Manuel Marquez has his number and that he will beat him again. So he is going to try to find different fights, different avenues. Now he has the opportunity to go in with the most popular fighter in the world, Oscar De La Hoya, so yes, he is going to jump at that opportunity…Is he going to win, is he going to lose? Irrespective of that, no doubt he will move down. He is not going to stay at 147 pounds and Juan Manuel Marquez will be waiting for him," Schaefer said. "I think a lot of it depends on what the outcome will be with the Oscar fight. If he will get knocked out badly by Oscar he may look for an easier fight. If he wins he may look for a fight with Ricky Hatton."
Any time a fighter starts talking about purse disparities (in their favor), take it for granted they aren’t in a hurry for a particular fight. Schaefer isn’t wrong to suggest Pacquiao isn’t looking for Marquez; he’s just talking around the best reasons why.
And he’s leaving out an important, “…and thank God for that” in regards to Pacquiao’s choices.
Or maybe it should be a more focused “…and thank God for Golden Boy’s coffers.”
After all, Pacquiao not fighting Marquez has lead directly to a fight with someone held in great esteem at GBP (and for once it’s not a risk, despite the danger of ass-u-me, to assume the guy the company is named after, “Golden Boy” Oscar De La Hoya, is held in high esteem). If Pacquiao hadn’t gone there, he was headed towards GBP’s second biggest rainmaker, World Jr. Welterweight champion Ricky Hatton. There’s only one Ricky Hatton after all, and he produces at least one more zero than Marquez.
Let’s figure on the low end that De La Hoya-Pacquiao just does Oscar-Trinidad numbers….that’s still in the neighborhood of three times as many pay-per-view buys as Pacquiao did with Marquez last March. And considering how prohibitively favored, on size alone, Oscar will be over Pacquiao, how much concern can GBP really have for the lost Pacquiao-Marquez III?
The promoter, face and star fighter of GBP is in the safest possible huge money fight with the chance of softening up a big player for their other guys and there’s room to complain? Schaefer being quoted as saying Pacquiao could have had Marquez instead of David Diaz is fine enough, but given the gold at the end of this box of Lucky Charms, can GBP really sad about the course of events?
The bottom line is that Schaefer, Oscar, hell, the GBP janitor hoping for a holiday bonus, are probably all just fine with what Manny’s chosen. In the economic pecking order, Marquez falls so far behind De La Hoya and Hatton it’s almost like a symbolic attempt to overcome a three-knockdown deficit. What GBP is doing, and it’s smart, is keeping chapter III alive while doing the bigger Manny business first. To say Manny doesn’t want to fight one GBP fighter while hyping one signed and one possible fight against bigger (physically and economically) names in the stable is just ridiculous enough to be happening in Boxing.
In GBP’s best case scenario, Manny loses to Oscar, then fights Marquez and maybe Hatton after Oscar gets a taste of Manchester for whatever money is left in the universe. In their lesser-but-still-profitable case scenario, Manny beats Oscar, then moves on to Hatton and finishes with Marquez. Not so ironically, these are all scenarios Pacquiao, his reps at Top Rank, and their accountants and janitors can sink their teeth into as well.
So let the hollow war of words cease, or at least cease any semblance of being taken seriously. After all, it could raise questions about other things, like why Nate Campbell isn’t being seriously touted as a Marquez opponent.
Now there’s a war or words worth listening too
By Cliff Rold
To hear Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer tell it, Manny Pacquiao must be a man of great internal honesty. To hear Schaefer tell it, Manny has to have looked deep into his soul and recognized his own flaws, his own impending doom.
Pacquiao doesn’t want, and didn’t take when he could have, a third fight with now crowned Lightweight champion of the World Juan Manuel Marquez.
He fled the challenge.
He took the easy way out.
Okay, maybe it wasn’t stated in such grandiose terms, but the terms used are just as rich. Their wealth springs not from what has been said, but from what hasn’t. BoxingScene regulars have followed the bouncing links (check em’ out; they’re all still up) this week as a sort of war of words has broken out between GBP’s lead spokesman and one Manny Pacquiao.
Let’s recap the highlights.
1. “There’s no way Bob Arum and Pacquiao are going to fight him again,” Schaefer was quoted as saying by Kevin Iole. “I don’t think Pacquiao wants anything to do with Juan Manuel Marquez any more."
2. “I’m willing to fight him any time. But since I will be the promoter, he must first accept all the conditions I will ask including a smaller purse [for him]," Pacquiao said. “If he agrees to the conditions, I know he is fighting for honor and I will fight him. If not, he’s only after getting big purse."
3. "The money for Pacquiao-Marquez fight is there so it cannot be the money. Manny knows he could have made more money fighting Juan Manuel Marquez, far more money, than he made by fighting David Diaz in his last fight…I believe he knows Juan Manuel Marquez has his number and that he will beat him again. So he is going to try to find different fights, different avenues. Now he has the opportunity to go in with the most popular fighter in the world, Oscar De La Hoya, so yes, he is going to jump at that opportunity…Is he going to win, is he going to lose? Irrespective of that, no doubt he will move down. He is not going to stay at 147 pounds and Juan Manuel Marquez will be waiting for him," Schaefer said. "I think a lot of it depends on what the outcome will be with the Oscar fight. If he will get knocked out badly by Oscar he may look for an easier fight. If he wins he may look for a fight with Ricky Hatton."
Any time a fighter starts talking about purse disparities (in their favor), take it for granted they aren’t in a hurry for a particular fight. Schaefer isn’t wrong to suggest Pacquiao isn’t looking for Marquez; he’s just talking around the best reasons why.
And he’s leaving out an important, “…and thank God for that” in regards to Pacquiao’s choices.
Or maybe it should be a more focused “…and thank God for Golden Boy’s coffers.”
After all, Pacquiao not fighting Marquez has lead directly to a fight with someone held in great esteem at GBP (and for once it’s not a risk, despite the danger of ass-u-me, to assume the guy the company is named after, “Golden Boy” Oscar De La Hoya, is held in high esteem). If Pacquiao hadn’t gone there, he was headed towards GBP’s second biggest rainmaker, World Jr. Welterweight champion Ricky Hatton. There’s only one Ricky Hatton after all, and he produces at least one more zero than Marquez.
Let’s figure on the low end that De La Hoya-Pacquiao just does Oscar-Trinidad numbers….that’s still in the neighborhood of three times as many pay-per-view buys as Pacquiao did with Marquez last March. And considering how prohibitively favored, on size alone, Oscar will be over Pacquiao, how much concern can GBP really have for the lost Pacquiao-Marquez III?
The promoter, face and star fighter of GBP is in the safest possible huge money fight with the chance of softening up a big player for their other guys and there’s room to complain? Schaefer being quoted as saying Pacquiao could have had Marquez instead of David Diaz is fine enough, but given the gold at the end of this box of Lucky Charms, can GBP really sad about the course of events?
The bottom line is that Schaefer, Oscar, hell, the GBP janitor hoping for a holiday bonus, are probably all just fine with what Manny’s chosen. In the economic pecking order, Marquez falls so far behind De La Hoya and Hatton it’s almost like a symbolic attempt to overcome a three-knockdown deficit. What GBP is doing, and it’s smart, is keeping chapter III alive while doing the bigger Manny business first. To say Manny doesn’t want to fight one GBP fighter while hyping one signed and one possible fight against bigger (physically and economically) names in the stable is just ridiculous enough to be happening in Boxing.
In GBP’s best case scenario, Manny loses to Oscar, then fights Marquez and maybe Hatton after Oscar gets a taste of Manchester for whatever money is left in the universe. In their lesser-but-still-profitable case scenario, Manny beats Oscar, then moves on to Hatton and finishes with Marquez. Not so ironically, these are all scenarios Pacquiao, his reps at Top Rank, and their accountants and janitors can sink their teeth into as well.
So let the hollow war of words cease, or at least cease any semblance of being taken seriously. After all, it could raise questions about other things, like why Nate Campbell isn’t being seriously touted as a Marquez opponent.
Now there’s a war or words worth listening too
Man Hopkins would school pavlik so bad a few years ago, especially the version of bhop that beat Trinidad. That's not a knock on pavlik either hopkins is smart fighter, he definitely knows how to beat pavlik, knows how to exploit his weaknesses and take away his strengths. Only problem is he's damn near 44 years old!!! I just don't know if his body will allow him to execute his game plan for 12 entire rounds anymore, which sucks as a fan of his. I still hope he wins though fasho, I'm just not betting on it. I was positive he was going to beat calzaghe, and he nearly did but couldn't keep up the pace in the late rounds which cost him the fight.
@206-Man he was one more knockdown away from beating Cal-sloppy. B-Hop just has to take a few more chances. Pavlik is not a big counter puncher so he should be able to take more risks....
I'll be on madden tonight around 8:00-9:00 ish... so look for me if you're on mayne. I got something for Kyle Snorton....
I got a fat pack of those grapes... so you know I am going to be focused tonight.
Have a good weeked folks!!
I'll be on madden tonight around 8:00-9:00 ish... so look for me if you're on mayne. I got something for Kyle Snorton....
I got a fat pack of those grapes... so you know I am going to be focused tonight.
Have a good weeked folks!!
lol, he is old as fuck. Says a lot about how good he was though, he's never received a beating in his career, never even been cut before!! All of his losses were close and disputed, except for waaaay back in 1993 against Roy jones (semi-close, but clear win for jones). That's why he can still fight at 43 and be ranked top 10 p4p.
Amir Khan Fires Jorge Rubio, Freddie Roach Hired?
By Mark Vester
It's being reported by The Sun that 2004 Olympic silver medal winner Amir Khan has fired trainer Jorge Rubio, who trained him for the 54-second knockout loss to unbeaten Colombian puncher Breidis Prescott. Promoter Frank Warren had said it was Rubio who suggested Prescott as the opponent, telling Khan's team that Prescott would fall apart after three-rounds.
The paper reports that Freddie Roach is going to be the new man taking over the corner for Khan. The young lightweight star is said to be returning in December against an opponent to be announced.
“Amir is coming here to California with his father and attorney. They want to talk to me about rebuilding his career. I heard he suffered a bad knockout,” Roach told the paper.
By Mark Vester
It's being reported by The Sun that 2004 Olympic silver medal winner Amir Khan has fired trainer Jorge Rubio, who trained him for the 54-second knockout loss to unbeaten Colombian puncher Breidis Prescott. Promoter Frank Warren had said it was Rubio who suggested Prescott as the opponent, telling Khan's team that Prescott would fall apart after three-rounds.
The paper reports that Freddie Roach is going to be the new man taking over the corner for Khan. The young lightweight star is said to be returning in December against an opponent to be announced.
“Amir is coming here to California with his father and attorney. They want to talk to me about rebuilding his career. I heard he suffered a bad knockout,” Roach told the paper.
Martirosyan looked awesome tonight. He took some hard punches and still dominated pretty much the entire fight. He still has holes in his defense but he learned to calm down after he has someone hurt .. and Kid Diamond has another shitty fight against a guy he was supposed to beat easy.
@ REdRUM .. try to locate the Arce fight from Monday. Watched it yesterday and it was entertaining as hell. Corners almost scrapped with each other and everything.
@ REdRUM .. try to locate the Arce fight from Monday. Watched it yesterday and it was entertaining as hell. Corners almost scrapped with each other and everything.
Let me know which one of these you Chavez fights from Mexico you need ..
Vs. Danilo Cabrera (1987-08-21)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P26BX6U6
Vs. Nicky Perez (1988-03-05)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0J9D1X7S
Vs. Rodolfo Batta (1989-10-09)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FRMT02IX
Vs. Alberto de las Mercedes Cortes (1989-12-16)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H950H9CA
Vs. Russell Mosley (1990-08-18)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8ID5SOEI
Vs. Jaime Balboa (1990-11-08)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KLBM6X0B
Those are the oldest ones I have.
Vs. Danilo Cabrera (1987-08-21)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P26BX6U6
Vs. Nicky Perez (1988-03-05)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0J9D1X7S
Vs. Rodolfo Batta (1989-10-09)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FRMT02IX
Vs. Alberto de las Mercedes Cortes (1989-12-16)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H950H9CA
Vs. Russell Mosley (1990-08-18)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8ID5SOEI
Vs. Jaime Balboa (1990-11-08)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KLBM6X0B
Those are the oldest ones I have.
I'd actually take them all, if possible; no rush, I'd just watch them in my spare time.
Also, I found that Arce fight, but it's cut into 3 parts, and it's missing the 7th round; from what I read, that's where Arce scored the flash knockdown...I'll keep looking; I'm sure I'll catch it pretty quick.
Thanks.
EDIT: Just found this picture; I have to throw it up. Nothing personal, amigo.
Also, I found that Arce fight, but it's cut into 3 parts, and it's missing the 7th round; from what I read, that's where Arce scored the flash knockdown...I'll keep looking; I'm sure I'll catch it pretty quick.
Thanks.
EDIT: Just found this picture; I have to throw it up. Nothing personal, amigo.