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Pacquiao vs Khan confirmed for April 23rd.
Much better than that shitty Jeff Horn fight.
Both are washed up but it should be an entertaining fight, I guess Khan is on a mission to get KO'd by as many high class fighters as he can.
What's interesting is I guess this is going down in Dubai. Needless to say this will be the biggest fight in Dubai history. Assuming of course that's actually true - we always hear of Dubai going to get these big fights bit nothing ever happens, so we'll see.
Much better than that shitty Jeff Horn fight.
Both are washed up but it should be an entertaining fight, I guess Khan is on a mission to get KO'd by as many high class fighters as he can.
What's interesting is I guess this is going down in Dubai. Needless to say this will be the biggest fight in Dubai history. Assuming of course that's actually true - we always hear of Dubai going to get these big fights bit nothing ever happens, so we'll see.
Bs like this is why I don't pay boxing scene any attention
How Much Might Forgettable Thurman-Garcia Fight Damage Future Viewership?
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By Keith Idec
The Keith Thurman-Danny Garcia ratings were so impressive network television executives must take notice.
That much appears clear.
A boxing match televised in prime time on free TV hasn’t drawn a peak audience of 5.1 million viewers or an average audience of 3.74 million viewers since 1998. That last part is somewhat misleading because boxing barely has been televised in prime time on free TV over the past 19 years.
That trend started just two years ago, when Al Haymon began purchasing time on CBS, NBC and FOX in an effort to expose boxers to bigger audiences than fights on HBO and Showtime can attract. Nevertheless, if boxing programming can consistently draw numbers similar to Thurman-Garcia, network executives will view it as content worth buying, not filler funded by Haymon’s heavily scrutinized, nine-figure venture.
That development theoretically would be good for everyone in boxing, not just those affiliated with PBC, because free TV would offer options to promoters who are finding it difficult to land dates on HBO and/or Showtime.
It remains to be seen, however, just how many of those new viewers were turned off by what they witnessed Saturday night from Brooklyn’s Barclays Center.
Thurman-Garcia wasn’t the most boring boxing match we’ve ever seen, but it wasn’t must-see TV, either. Duds aren’t sport-altering when a fight is broadcast by HBO or Showtime, premium-cable channels to which many boxing fans subscribe because basically they’ll watch most fights that HBO or Showtime televise.
When the sport has access to the important platform it possessed Saturday night, though, aesthetic failures can have a lasting impact among viewers who might’ve watched boxing for the first time in a long time.
If a casual boxing fan gave Thurman-Shawn Porter a shot on CBS eight months ago, odds are he or she would’ve wanted to watch boxing again. The welterweights delivered one of the best action fights of 2016 – a competitive, compelling battle full of exciting exchanges.
If a casual fight fan took that same approach to watching Thurman-Garcia on CBS, changing channels clearly crossed his or her mind. For all the promotional propaganda about Thurman-Garcia being something special, it wasn’t.
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Those that know their boxing obviously weren’t looking at Thurman-Garcia as a modern-day Leonard-Hearns, despite such comparisons entering their welterweight title unification fight. Committed boxing fans understand, too, that matchups between top-tier fighters often don’t produce the most memorable action.
Those that don’t know boxing were expecting a fascinating fight Saturday night that never developed. And they might not soon forget that they weren’t exactly entertained by Thurman-Garcia.
The fight began promising enough. The first round was as riveting at times as Thurman’s previous appearance on CBS, his all-action, 12-round, unanimous-decision win against Porter on June 25 at Barclays Center.
Unfortunately, after a first round in which Thurman hurt Garcia with a left hook, Thurman-Garcia became a tactical encounter that might make casual boxing fans think twice about watching the next “big fight” on free TV.
Thurman (28-0, 22 KOs, 1 NC) spent the last three rounds moving away from Philadelphia’s Garcia (33-1, 19 KOs), protecting the lead he and trainer Dan Birmingham believed he had built on the scorecards. The unbeaten WBA/WBC world welterweight champion’s cautious strategy cost him on the scorecard of judge Kevin Morgan, who scored the 12-round fight for Garcia, 115-113.
The two other judges, John McKaie and Joe Pasquale, credited Thurman with winning, his decision to disengage late in the fight notwithstanding. McKaie scored it 116-112 for Thurman, while Pasquale had the Clearwater, Florida, fighter in front, 115-113.
Thurman made no apologies for fighting cautiously against a dangerous puncher who could’ve changed the course of their competitive fight with one shot.
Like many boxers will tell you, some nights you just need to win however you can and worry about looking good next time. That’s undoubtedly the tact Thurman took Saturday night, when he defended his safe strategy in a post-fight press conference.
“People forget that boxing is a sport and sports are scored on a points system,” Thurman said. “Now fight fans love to see a tremendous fight. Sometimes, when you come to a boxing match, you get what you want. You get what you desire. But sometimes you see boxing. Boxing is an art. I finessed my way to victory.”
Angel Garcia, Danny Garcia’s father and trainer, demonstratively disagreed.
“You can’t win a fight running, bro,” Angel Garcia said. “He hit Danny with a good shot in the first [round]. It was a good shot. Danny sucked it up, came back [in] the second, was there in front of him. Then he ran all the way from the sixth, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12. How do you win the fight? You’ve gotta be kidding me, brother. This is a sport where you’ve gotta do contact with the fighter, with the person in front of you. You just can’t run. It’s like when [Erislandy] Lara and Canelo [Alvarez], they fought. It’s the same thing, and they gave it to Canelo for being the aggressor. You know what I’m saying?
“I’m not being a sore loser or nothing like that. But if he would’ve beat [Danny], he would’ve had won, then I’ll say, ‘I take my hat off,’ and say, ‘Good job, champ.’ But you can’t beat a world champion like that, bro. You just cannot.”
Some would argue Angel Garcia is incorrect, that Thurman had built enough of a lead early in their fight to employ that safe strategy late and still win.
What’s indisputable is the way Thurman performed late in that fight made an already disappointing showing more difficult for viewers to appreciate. That won’t matter much to the hardcore boxing fans who’ll almost always come back to watch the next fight no matter what takes place in the ring.
Yet for those that watched boxing Saturday night for the first time in a long time – and clearly there were many of those viewers – the mundane nature of Thurman-Garcia might make them skip the next supposedly important fight on free TV.
CBS doesn’t have another boxing card on its schedule for the remainder of 2017, thus it could take some time to determine how much the lack of action in Thurman-Garcia damages future viewership.
Regardless, it wasn’t merely important for Thurman-Garcia to generate ratings that’ll make network television executives to take notice. Their fight was as much about being able to take advantage of this ratings momentum moving forward.
Thurman-Porter provided promising momentum because it was thoroughly entertaining and left viewers wanting more. The same cannot be said about Thurman-Garcia.
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How Much Might Forgettable Thurman-Garcia Fight Damage Future Viewership?
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By Keith Idec
The Keith Thurman-Danny Garcia ratings were so impressive network television executives must take notice.
That much appears clear.
A boxing match televised in prime time on free TV hasn’t drawn a peak audience of 5.1 million viewers or an average audience of 3.74 million viewers since 1998. That last part is somewhat misleading because boxing barely has been televised in prime time on free TV over the past 19 years.
That trend started just two years ago, when Al Haymon began purchasing time on CBS, NBC and FOX in an effort to expose boxers to bigger audiences than fights on HBO and Showtime can attract. Nevertheless, if boxing programming can consistently draw numbers similar to Thurman-Garcia, network executives will view it as content worth buying, not filler funded by Haymon’s heavily scrutinized, nine-figure venture.
That development theoretically would be good for everyone in boxing, not just those affiliated with PBC, because free TV would offer options to promoters who are finding it difficult to land dates on HBO and/or Showtime.
It remains to be seen, however, just how many of those new viewers were turned off by what they witnessed Saturday night from Brooklyn’s Barclays Center.
Thurman-Garcia wasn’t the most boring boxing match we’ve ever seen, but it wasn’t must-see TV, either. Duds aren’t sport-altering when a fight is broadcast by HBO or Showtime, premium-cable channels to which many boxing fans subscribe because basically they’ll watch most fights that HBO or Showtime televise.
When the sport has access to the important platform it possessed Saturday night, though, aesthetic failures can have a lasting impact among viewers who might’ve watched boxing for the first time in a long time.
If a casual boxing fan gave Thurman-Shawn Porter a shot on CBS eight months ago, odds are he or she would’ve wanted to watch boxing again. The welterweights delivered one of the best action fights of 2016 – a competitive, compelling battle full of exciting exchanges.
If a casual fight fan took that same approach to watching Thurman-Garcia on CBS, changing channels clearly crossed his or her mind. For all the promotional propaganda about Thurman-Garcia being something special, it wasn’t.
thurman-garcia-fight (8)
Those that know their boxing obviously weren’t looking at Thurman-Garcia as a modern-day Leonard-Hearns, despite such comparisons entering their welterweight title unification fight. Committed boxing fans understand, too, that matchups between top-tier fighters often don’t produce the most memorable action.
Those that don’t know boxing were expecting a fascinating fight Saturday night that never developed. And they might not soon forget that they weren’t exactly entertained by Thurman-Garcia.
The fight began promising enough. The first round was as riveting at times as Thurman’s previous appearance on CBS, his all-action, 12-round, unanimous-decision win against Porter on June 25 at Barclays Center.
Unfortunately, after a first round in which Thurman hurt Garcia with a left hook, Thurman-Garcia became a tactical encounter that might make casual boxing fans think twice about watching the next “big fight” on free TV.
Thurman (28-0, 22 KOs, 1 NC) spent the last three rounds moving away from Philadelphia’s Garcia (33-1, 19 KOs), protecting the lead he and trainer Dan Birmingham believed he had built on the scorecards. The unbeaten WBA/WBC world welterweight champion’s cautious strategy cost him on the scorecard of judge Kevin Morgan, who scored the 12-round fight for Garcia, 115-113.
The two other judges, John McKaie and Joe Pasquale, credited Thurman with winning, his decision to disengage late in the fight notwithstanding. McKaie scored it 116-112 for Thurman, while Pasquale had the Clearwater, Florida, fighter in front, 115-113.
Thurman made no apologies for fighting cautiously against a dangerous puncher who could’ve changed the course of their competitive fight with one shot.
Like many boxers will tell you, some nights you just need to win however you can and worry about looking good next time. That’s undoubtedly the tact Thurman took Saturday night, when he defended his safe strategy in a post-fight press conference.
“People forget that boxing is a sport and sports are scored on a points system,” Thurman said. “Now fight fans love to see a tremendous fight. Sometimes, when you come to a boxing match, you get what you want. You get what you desire. But sometimes you see boxing. Boxing is an art. I finessed my way to victory.”
Angel Garcia, Danny Garcia’s father and trainer, demonstratively disagreed.
“You can’t win a fight running, bro,” Angel Garcia said. “He hit Danny with a good shot in the first [round]. It was a good shot. Danny sucked it up, came back [in] the second, was there in front of him. Then he ran all the way from the sixth, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12. How do you win the fight? You’ve gotta be kidding me, brother. This is a sport where you’ve gotta do contact with the fighter, with the person in front of you. You just can’t run. It’s like when [Erislandy] Lara and Canelo [Alvarez], they fought. It’s the same thing, and they gave it to Canelo for being the aggressor. You know what I’m saying?
“I’m not being a sore loser or nothing like that. But if he would’ve beat [Danny], he would’ve had won, then I’ll say, ‘I take my hat off,’ and say, ‘Good job, champ.’ But you can’t beat a world champion like that, bro. You just cannot.”
Some would argue Angel Garcia is incorrect, that Thurman had built enough of a lead early in their fight to employ that safe strategy late and still win.
What’s indisputable is the way Thurman performed late in that fight made an already disappointing showing more difficult for viewers to appreciate. That won’t matter much to the hardcore boxing fans who’ll almost always come back to watch the next fight no matter what takes place in the ring.
Yet for those that watched boxing Saturday night for the first time in a long time – and clearly there were many of those viewers – the mundane nature of Thurman-Garcia might make them skip the next supposedly important fight on free TV.
CBS doesn’t have another boxing card on its schedule for the remainder of 2017, thus it could take some time to determine how much the lack of action in Thurman-Garcia damages future viewership.
Regardless, it wasn’t merely important for Thurman-Garcia to generate ratings that’ll make network television executives to take notice. Their fight was as much about being able to take advantage of this ratings momentum moving forward.
Thurman-Porter provided promising momentum because it was thoroughly entertaining and left viewers wanting more. The same cannot be said about Thurman-Garcia.
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As I once said already, Golovkin has proven himself here. He's the best of the class. He should consider retiring after cleaning out the division for good, with the only notable exception being Canelo. Fuck them. The time wasting and fuckery that they are doing is not worth it. Dude is pushing in age and should go out on a high note, like Calzaghe did.
Errol Spence vs Kell Brook presser, for May 27th dope fight. Got heated at times. Spence said Brook is a clown, living off two good rounds vs GGG, Brook saying Spence bit off more than he can chew and made big mistake for his career.
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That's all GGG's fault, not Canelo's. Like I've said before, GGG accepted the step aside money several times and waited for junior middle weight to move up and fight him for his big pay day. He should have never accepted it if he really cared about unifying the division. But by now he would have moved up to 168 but we all know now how he would do vs a "bigger" fighter.
So he shouldn't have accepted the step aside money, but when he got tired of being offered step aside money decided to enforce his mandatory position you were the first one on here calling him a paper/fake champion. Weird how that works
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If he never took the step aside money, Cotto would have either fought GGG at a catchweight, or Cotto would have vacated. GGG was WBC interim champion and defended it twice prior to winning it vs Rubio. Meaning, GGG would have probably become a champ by defeating Cotto, fought for the WBC vacated title vs Lemieux or Murray let's say, or the WBC would have made him a paper champ which is what happened anyways. GGG probably got over $2 mill from step aside money combined. He probably would have received $8 mill or more for fighting Cotto, had all the titles at 160 already, and full control of any negotiating going on with him or any fighter. But he's not willing to move up because he's not willing to challenge himself with bigger fighters. Look, Jacobs was the first legit boxer he's faced in who knows how long. And Jacobs is naturally bigger. And GGG struggled bigtime. Imagine how he would have done vs Ward, or Froch, or any legit 168 lber? This is why he's waiting for a junior middleweight to make the big money. But he probably would have made more money or became the "Manny" to "Mayweather" when it came down to being a cashcow in boxing.
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Andre Ward and Sergey Kovalev have agreed to terms for a rematch, sources told Y! June 17th, Las Vegas, PPV. M @MAB ramson13 first to report.
Kovalev-Ward II will be at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, per source. Split will be 60/40 in favor of Ward, which was previously negotiated.
Ward was very proactive in negotiations for the rematch and is expected to dictate much of what the pre-fight promotion looks like.
Andre S.O.G. Ward‏Verified account A @ANDREW ard 10m10 minutes ago
I'm going to keep it short & sweet, you got what you asked for, now you have to see me JUNE 17. This time leave the excuses at home. #EARNED
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Roc Nation Sports, Main Events, Andre Ward Promotions and Krusher Promotions are pleased to announce the highly anticipated rematch between unified light heavyweight champion Andre “SOG” Ward (31-0, 15 KOs) and former title holder Sergey “Krusher” Kovalev (30-1-1, 26 KOs). Ward vs. Kovalev II “No Excuses” will take place Saturday, June 17 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas. The championship event, presented by Corona Extra, will be produced and distributed live by HBO Pay-Per-View beginning at 9 p.m. ET/6 p.m. PT.
Team Ward and Team Kovalev will partake in a three-city press tour the week of April 10 to officially announce the fight, including New York City, the Bay Area and Los Angeles. Further details will be available in the coming days.
“I'm going to keep it short and sweet,” said Ward. “You got what you asked for - now you have to see me on June 17. This time...leave the excuses at home.”
“I'm glad to know that rematch will happen,” said Kovalev. “I really hope that Andre Ward will get into the ring for this rematch. Fans of boxing will see the real Krusher -- the one they have missed for couple of my last fights. For me this rematch is very important as no other bout in my entire boxing career. Thanks a lot to all boxing fans.”
"After a razor-thin decision last November in their first meeting, the boxing community has been eagerly waiting for a Ward-Kovalev rematch," said Tony Walker, Vice President, HBO Pay-Per-View.
"These are two world-class prizefighters who embrace being on the sport's biggest stage. Like Andre and Sergey, we can't wait for June 17th at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas."
Ward vs. Kovalev II “No Excuses,” a 12-round mega-fight for the WBO/IBF/WBA light heavyweight championships, is presented by Roc Nation Sports, Main Events, Andre Ward Promotions, Krusher Promotions and Corona Extra, and is sponsored by Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino.
Sergey Kovalev‏Verified account @KrusherKovalev 18h18 hours ago
#WardKovalev2 Be ready motherf---er! I'll finish your boxing career S @Sergey krusherkovalev
Andre Ward and Sergey Kovalev have agreed to terms for a rematch, sources told Y! June 17th, Las Vegas, PPV. M @MAB ramson13 first to report.
Kovalev-Ward II will be at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, per source. Split will be 60/40 in favor of Ward, which was previously negotiated.
Ward was very proactive in negotiations for the rematch and is expected to dictate much of what the pre-fight promotion looks like.
Andre S.O.G. Ward‏Verified account A @ANDREW ard 10m10 minutes ago
I'm going to keep it short & sweet, you got what you asked for, now you have to see me JUNE 17. This time leave the excuses at home. #EARNED
Photo: Ed Mulholland
Roc Nation Sports, Main Events, Andre Ward Promotions and Krusher Promotions are pleased to announce the highly anticipated rematch between unified light heavyweight champion Andre “SOG” Ward (31-0, 15 KOs) and former title holder Sergey “Krusher” Kovalev (30-1-1, 26 KOs). Ward vs. Kovalev II “No Excuses” will take place Saturday, June 17 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas. The championship event, presented by Corona Extra, will be produced and distributed live by HBO Pay-Per-View beginning at 9 p.m. ET/6 p.m. PT.
Team Ward and Team Kovalev will partake in a three-city press tour the week of April 10 to officially announce the fight, including New York City, the Bay Area and Los Angeles. Further details will be available in the coming days.
“I'm going to keep it short and sweet,” said Ward. “You got what you asked for - now you have to see me on June 17. This time...leave the excuses at home.”
“I'm glad to know that rematch will happen,” said Kovalev. “I really hope that Andre Ward will get into the ring for this rematch. Fans of boxing will see the real Krusher -- the one they have missed for couple of my last fights. For me this rematch is very important as no other bout in my entire boxing career. Thanks a lot to all boxing fans.”
"After a razor-thin decision last November in their first meeting, the boxing community has been eagerly waiting for a Ward-Kovalev rematch," said Tony Walker, Vice President, HBO Pay-Per-View.
"These are two world-class prizefighters who embrace being on the sport's biggest stage. Like Andre and Sergey, we can't wait for June 17th at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas."
Ward vs. Kovalev II “No Excuses,” a 12-round mega-fight for the WBO/IBF/WBA light heavyweight championships, is presented by Roc Nation Sports, Main Events, Andre Ward Promotions, Krusher Promotions and Corona Extra, and is sponsored by Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino.
Sergey Kovalev‏Verified account @KrusherKovalev 18h18 hours ago
#WardKovalev2 Be ready motherf---er! I'll finish your boxing career S @Sergey krusherkovalev
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Lol this is one of my best homegirls brother he boxes also he was supposed to have a fight Saturday
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