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Yeah man I'll give Jacobs props if it goes down, he was saying a lot of things a couple weeks ago that made me believe it wasn't going to happen, like saying he wants more than "two Peter Quillins" but "less than $10 million dollars" meaning he wanted anywhere between $3.5 million and $9 million, which seemed like he was pricing himself out. There's no way HBO would pay $8-$9 million for their purse for a regular HBO event and I assumed HBO probably wouldn't want another PPV this year after Ward vs Kovalev PPV. So this is very promising and sounds like they have figured out the purse or at least are close to it.
If it goes to a purse bid? Heavily in Golovkins favor being he's super champion. Last I checked WBA Super Champion gets 75℅ in a purse bid. So definitely in Jacobs interest to work out a deal.
I've read some people theorize that Al Haymon will try to win if it goes to a purse bid. I don't really think so. Because if Haymon wins by bidding a huge number, he has to pay Golovkin 75℅ and Jacobs 25℅. Would he want to pay Golovkin that much money in a fight where Jacobs would likely get knocked out? Unlikely, especially since he hasn't been trying to win purse bids lately. An example is Deontay Wilder vs Povetkin. You'd think that would have been a fight Haymon would have bid big and try to win, buy he didn't, he was fine with the Russians winning and Wilder having to fight in Russia.
So my prediction is they'll work out a deal, probably in the neighborhood of $2-$3 million for Jacobs and a tad more for Golovkin. The question is will HBO buy it or will it go to PPV. I don't think Jacobs will drop his mandatory spot, or at least I hope he doesn't because it is a great fight at middleweight, like I said best fight at middleweight not involving Canelo.
I guess their saying HBO has extra money now that Canelo is injured since he was planning on fighting in December, so that extra money they can use on a Jacobs fight:
Golovkin-Jacobs A Realistic Possibility For December 10 On HBO - Boxing News
I've read some people theorize that Al Haymon will try to win if it goes to a purse bid. I don't really think so. Because if Haymon wins by bidding a huge number, he has to pay Golovkin 75℅ and Jacobs 25℅. Would he want to pay Golovkin that much money in a fight where Jacobs would likely get knocked out? Unlikely, especially since he hasn't been trying to win purse bids lately. An example is Deontay Wilder vs Povetkin. You'd think that would have been a fight Haymon would have bid big and try to win, buy he didn't, he was fine with the Russians winning and Wilder having to fight in Russia.
So my prediction is they'll work out a deal, probably in the neighborhood of $2-$3 million for Jacobs and a tad more for Golovkin. The question is will HBO buy it or will it go to PPV. I don't think Jacobs will drop his mandatory spot, or at least I hope he doesn't because it is a great fight at middleweight, like I said best fight at middleweight not involving Canelo.
I guess their saying HBO has extra money now that Canelo is injured since he was planning on fighting in December, so that extra money they can use on a Jacobs fight:
Golovkin-Jacobs A Realistic Possibility For December 10 On HBO - Boxing News
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That would have been interesting and maybe he would have done that a year ago, but the current state of PBC seems a bit strange. Blackout on Showtime for at least a month (no boxing) and not many noteworthy fights scheduled for PBC the remaining year. Dan Rafael just wrote a piece about what's going on with PBC:
What has happened to Premier Boxing Champions? - Dan Rafael Blog- ESPN
What has happened to Premier Boxing Champions? - Dan Rafael Blog- ESPN
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That's interesting. I would always say that PBC would sink. But looking back I kind of regret it because we can see boxing go through some really bad shit soon. The only ones I see that really are getting shine out of PBC are Jacobs and Spence Jr..
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PBC fucked up by not making the good fights and having no consistency. I honestly think the time buys on 20 different networks hurt them since there was no rhyme or reason to any kind of schedule and never knowing eat fights would be on what network. Probably set boxing back of they end up failing.
Anyways, some news:
Golovkin vs. Jacobs: Barclays Center Placed on Hold For Dec. 10 - Boxing News
Tyson Fury is Medically Unfit To Fight, Says His Team in Statement - Boxing News
Anyways, some news:
Golovkin vs. Jacobs: Barclays Center Placed on Hold For Dec. 10 - Boxing News
Tyson Fury is Medically Unfit To Fight, Says His Team in Statement - Boxing News
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ESPN says he went through $500 million of his investors money. With how little they've done, as far as big fights (Thurman vs Porter, Garcia vs Guerrero, Frampton vs Santa Cruz, Thurman vs Guerrero), it almost looks like a hustle by Haymon. That's me thinking crazy, I know, but if I had that kind of money trying to revolutionize the sport, Thurman vs Garcia would happen immediately after their fights. Spence vs Porter/Thurman/Garcia, the biggest fights possible would happen consistently. Don't get me wrong, they've had some good cards with up and comers and guys people don't really know like prospects etc, but they are scattered all around and the big names, the guys that will bring in the rating, just aren't fighting each other or not frequently enough. Like Danny Garcia is really fighting Molina Jr next, wtf? Why go so many steps backwards instead of using momentum into a Thurman fight? They just don't make much sense considering how much money they've spent. So if it's not Al Haymons money, doesn't look like he cares other than getting his fighters paid for little work and his cut of course. Disappointed to say that least
Haymon should have let the promoters promote and just focus on his fighters that have legit potential to get the big money fights. Just throwing in Bradley or Manny name in the mix, the welterweights under PBC would have all gotten serious cash. Cotto would have no problem finding someone to fight, and Canelo would have been the unified 154 lb champ,lol. But they would all get serious cash
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Breaking news: Junior lightweight titlist Vasyl Lomachenko will return on Nov. 26 in a defense against fellow... Breaking news: Junior lightweight titlist Vasyl Lomachenko will return on Nov. 26 in a defense against fellow former featherweight titlist Nicholas Walters, who signed the contract on Tuesday, according to Top Rank. The fight will be on HBO and take place at The Cosmopolitan in Las Vegas.
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Wow great news! Canelo getting hurt was a blessing in disguise, his planned December HBO fight would have been against a lower caliber fighter and a waste of money for HBO/fans, so that extra money they are able to make this and hopefully GGG vs Jacobs as well. October is a dead month but Nov/Dec gonna finish the year with a bang.
Is PBC About To Shake Up The Boxing World?
Premier Boxing Champions doesn’t have a schedule past today. There are whispers of the impending demise, but there is also a rumor that this is just the beginning for the brand.
A user by the name of “fanofreason” on the Boxing Scene message board made a post which states the following:
I work for the law firm dotting the i’s and crossing the T’s.104 shows a year x 10 years.2 month on FOXRest on FS1/affliates500 Million per year pay to PBC with 10 year guarantee. 5 Billion lifetime of contract. On par with the NHL deal with NBC.FOX gets 100% advertiser rights/revenue and 50% of venue fee.This explains the non existent fall schedule.
For those of you that just rolled your eyes or groaned or felt excitement in the pit of your stomach, all of those are appropriate responses. This is a rumor of massive proportion with far reaching implications in the world of boxing. In recent memory, nobody has flipped the traditional boxing model in this way. We all know how it works. HBO or Showtime pick and choose from fights the promoters offer. They may reject an opponent, a fighter, or a date. If they’re interested, we’ll see the fight on their network at a date to be named.
If HBO and Showtime are adamant a fight get done and the return is lucrative enough, we’ll even see the two networks come together and work as partners.
It wasn’t until Al Haymon’s Premier Boxing Champions (PBC) came in with hedge fund money, high payouts, and expensive time buys on network television did anything look any different after decades of stagnation. The ratings have been hit or miss depending on how you want to want to put them into context, but ultimately the rumors persist that the experiment is a failure.
And now with a bleak schedule which shows just one fight for the Fall months on the PBC website and only rumors of agreements between title fights in the coming months, the notion exists that the startup is circling the drain.
That is until we saw the post from Boxing Scene Forum user “Fanofreason”.
Let’s break this down line by line.
“104 shows a year x 10 years.”
We’re going to first ignore the fact that this is some random person who has provided no proof to substantiate any of his claims on the forum. Obviously doing so would probably incriminate him and probably cost him his job, but if he was truly concerned with that he probably shouldn’t have posted to begin with. If nothing else, this could be an interesting exploration on how TV deals work and if it’s a viable alternative for boxing. Either way, let’s look at the numbers.
104 shows a year. That’s 2 shows a week.
There are 149 fighters listed as being a part of the PBC stable. Many are inactive, incapable of drawing a crowd, and/or on the verge of retirement. Just a quick scroll through the stable and guys like Alfredo Angulo, Luis Collazo, and Chad Dawson likely have very little future as main event fighters capable of carrying their own cards in top tier fights in the years to come. For some they have a few, but others like Victor Ortiz are only names at this point.
But for the sake of this, let’s assume that the fighters referenced above are capable of being featured on a show that has 2 fights. That’s 4 fighters total required per card.
104 shows a year requires at least 4 fighters for the televised portions.
That means we need 416 appearances from our 149 listed PBC fighters. We can assume that not all of those appearances will be made by PBC fighters as PBC tends to work with Matchroom and other promoters.
If everyone fought twice a year that puts us at 298 appearances. Remember, we need 416. That leaves us with 118 fighters to be brought in from outside. However, prospects tend to fight more frequently and sometimes up to 4 times a year. Let’s assume that PBC has 30 prospects that are going to be fighting 4 times a year.
120 appearances for the prospects
238 appearances for everyone else
That’s 358 appearances total for the 149 fighters accounting for differing fight frequency.
At this rate it’s totally doable to see 58 fighters brought in as outside opponents.
This part seems to work out.
“2 month on FOX
Rest on FS1/affliates”
For someone who works for a law firm, this seems to be a strange use of grammar and spelling. Saying “2 month on FOX” doesn’t even make sense. Is this supposed to mean 2 total months of programming on FOX or 2 cards a month on FOX?
The difference is 8 cards or 24.
Believe it or not, the 8 cards makes a lot more sense. Let’s put it this way. The NFL owns FOX in January. College Football owns FOX from September to December. FOX also owns the rights to the World Series which begins in late October and goes into November. That leaves only 7 months out of the year where Saturday nights on FOX are viable for airing live boxing.
Let’s also mention that FOX is in year 3 of a 10 year deal with NASCAR. FOX’s deal with NASCAR covers the first half of the Sprint Cup Series which starts in February and goes into the summer before NBC takes over as FOX shifts to football.
One possible consideration we could assume FOX has is the number Errol Spence Jr vs Leonard Bundu did in August on NBC. Spence Jr-Bundu retained 6 million viewers from the gold medal match between the United States and Serbia. This could be the cornerstone of the negotiation. Boxing held onto a large portion of the audience from an Olympics basketball event and maybe FOX sees a future in having the NFL lead into it’s PBC cards on FOX. (This brings us back to the point early of throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks. We’ve seen PBC have a wide-range of lead-in programming.)
This brings us to our next point. (We’re going to come back to the FS1 and affiliates.)
“500 Million per year pay to PBC with 10 year guarantee. 5 Billion lifetime of contract. On par with the NHL deal with NBC.”
Is it possible that this is true? Does that money make sense?
Let’s compare other sports:
The aforementioned NASCAR deal with FOX and NBC was $8.2 billion, 10-year deal with NBC and Fox.
FOX also landed a hard body shot on NBC in 2013 when they won the rights to broadcast the United States Golf Association tournaments which includes the U.S. Open in addition to numerous other tournaments. FOX signed a deal which started last year for $1 billion dollars over 12 years.
NBC is currently in the midst of a $2 billion over 10 years deal with the NHL. One could make many parallels to this deal as NHL ratings have been similar to boxing’s and this deal includes spots on both network and pay-channels.
The UFC signed a 7 year deal with FOX in 2011 that reportedly had a similar structure in how UFC programming would be dispersed across FOX’s networks. The deal was allegedly worth somewhere in the ballpark of $630 million over the course of 7 years and also will be up in the coming years. One may even see this as the blueprint and leverage point that PBC could use in projecting their valuation to FOX.
And lastly, you may have heard of the rising NBA salary cap this past summer. That jump was due to a 9 year, $24 billion dollar TV deal they signed with ESPN and Turner.
So back to PBC. $500 million a year for 10 years?
NASCAR makes $820 million a year
USGA is making $83 million a year.
NHL is making $200 million a year.
UFC is making $90 million a year.
NBA is making more than $2.5 billion a year.
It’s time to go back to the statement about FOX and its affiliates. Just to put in perspective what PBC means to FS1 at the moment.
September 13th, 2016 was the last day a PBC card aired on a FOX network. This is a company that has paid out lucrative contracts to former ESPN personalities to bolster their original programming and offer a legitimate alternative to the World Wide Leader.
Here are the top 15 programs and their ratings according to Nielsen Media from that day.
1. Premier Boxing Champions — Watts vs Ramirez — 182,000
2. Barcelona vs Celtic — 153,000
3. The Herd — 120,000
4. NASCAR Race Hub — 115,000
5. Undisputed — 82,000
6. Speak For Yourself — 63,000
7. Speak For Yourself — 62,000
8. NFL Films Presents — 49,000
9. MLB Whip Around — 39,000
10. UCL Pregame — 37,000
11. Undisputed — 31,000
12. FSL with Jay and Dan — 30,000
13. TMZ Sports — 17,000
14. MLBs Best — 9,000
15. Scottish Premiership — 8,000
Is PBC About To Shake Up The Boxing World?
Premier Boxing Champions doesn’t have a schedule past today. There are whispers of the impending demise, but there is also a rumor that this is just the beginning for the brand.
A user by the name of “fanofreason” on the Boxing Scene message board made a post which states the following:
I work for the law firm dotting the i’s and crossing the T’s.104 shows a year x 10 years.2 month on FOXRest on FS1/affliates500 Million per year pay to PBC with 10 year guarantee. 5 Billion lifetime of contract. On par with the NHL deal with NBC.FOX gets 100% advertiser rights/revenue and 50% of venue fee.This explains the non existent fall schedule.
For those of you that just rolled your eyes or groaned or felt excitement in the pit of your stomach, all of those are appropriate responses. This is a rumor of massive proportion with far reaching implications in the world of boxing. In recent memory, nobody has flipped the traditional boxing model in this way. We all know how it works. HBO or Showtime pick and choose from fights the promoters offer. They may reject an opponent, a fighter, or a date. If they’re interested, we’ll see the fight on their network at a date to be named.
If HBO and Showtime are adamant a fight get done and the return is lucrative enough, we’ll even see the two networks come together and work as partners.
It wasn’t until Al Haymon’s Premier Boxing Champions (PBC) came in with hedge fund money, high payouts, and expensive time buys on network television did anything look any different after decades of stagnation. The ratings have been hit or miss depending on how you want to want to put them into context, but ultimately the rumors persist that the experiment is a failure.
And now with a bleak schedule which shows just one fight for the Fall months on the PBC website and only rumors of agreements between title fights in the coming months, the notion exists that the startup is circling the drain.
That is until we saw the post from Boxing Scene Forum user “Fanofreason”.
Let’s break this down line by line.
“104 shows a year x 10 years.”
We’re going to first ignore the fact that this is some random person who has provided no proof to substantiate any of his claims on the forum. Obviously doing so would probably incriminate him and probably cost him his job, but if he was truly concerned with that he probably shouldn’t have posted to begin with. If nothing else, this could be an interesting exploration on how TV deals work and if it’s a viable alternative for boxing. Either way, let’s look at the numbers.
104 shows a year. That’s 2 shows a week.
There are 149 fighters listed as being a part of the PBC stable. Many are inactive, incapable of drawing a crowd, and/or on the verge of retirement. Just a quick scroll through the stable and guys like Alfredo Angulo, Luis Collazo, and Chad Dawson likely have very little future as main event fighters capable of carrying their own cards in top tier fights in the years to come. For some they have a few, but others like Victor Ortiz are only names at this point.
But for the sake of this, let’s assume that the fighters referenced above are capable of being featured on a show that has 2 fights. That’s 4 fighters total required per card.
104 shows a year requires at least 4 fighters for the televised portions.
That means we need 416 appearances from our 149 listed PBC fighters. We can assume that not all of those appearances will be made by PBC fighters as PBC tends to work with Matchroom and other promoters.
If everyone fought twice a year that puts us at 298 appearances. Remember, we need 416. That leaves us with 118 fighters to be brought in from outside. However, prospects tend to fight more frequently and sometimes up to 4 times a year. Let’s assume that PBC has 30 prospects that are going to be fighting 4 times a year.
120 appearances for the prospects
238 appearances for everyone else
That’s 358 appearances total for the 149 fighters accounting for differing fight frequency.
At this rate it’s totally doable to see 58 fighters brought in as outside opponents.
This part seems to work out.
“2 month on FOX
Rest on FS1/affliates”
For someone who works for a law firm, this seems to be a strange use of grammar and spelling. Saying “2 month on FOX” doesn’t even make sense. Is this supposed to mean 2 total months of programming on FOX or 2 cards a month on FOX?
The difference is 8 cards or 24.
Believe it or not, the 8 cards makes a lot more sense. Let’s put it this way. The NFL owns FOX in January. College Football owns FOX from September to December. FOX also owns the rights to the World Series which begins in late October and goes into November. That leaves only 7 months out of the year where Saturday nights on FOX are viable for airing live boxing.
Let’s also mention that FOX is in year 3 of a 10 year deal with NASCAR. FOX’s deal with NASCAR covers the first half of the Sprint Cup Series which starts in February and goes into the summer before NBC takes over as FOX shifts to football.
One possible consideration we could assume FOX has is the number Errol Spence Jr vs Leonard Bundu did in August on NBC. Spence Jr-Bundu retained 6 million viewers from the gold medal match between the United States and Serbia. This could be the cornerstone of the negotiation. Boxing held onto a large portion of the audience from an Olympics basketball event and maybe FOX sees a future in having the NFL lead into it’s PBC cards on FOX. (This brings us back to the point early of throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks. We’ve seen PBC have a wide-range of lead-in programming.)
This brings us to our next point. (We’re going to come back to the FS1 and affiliates.)
“500 Million per year pay to PBC with 10 year guarantee. 5 Billion lifetime of contract. On par with the NHL deal with NBC.”
Is it possible that this is true? Does that money make sense?
Let’s compare other sports:
The aforementioned NASCAR deal with FOX and NBC was $8.2 billion, 10-year deal with NBC and Fox.
FOX also landed a hard body shot on NBC in 2013 when they won the rights to broadcast the United States Golf Association tournaments which includes the U.S. Open in addition to numerous other tournaments. FOX signed a deal which started last year for $1 billion dollars over 12 years.
NBC is currently in the midst of a $2 billion over 10 years deal with the NHL. One could make many parallels to this deal as NHL ratings have been similar to boxing’s and this deal includes spots on both network and pay-channels.
The UFC signed a 7 year deal with FOX in 2011 that reportedly had a similar structure in how UFC programming would be dispersed across FOX’s networks. The deal was allegedly worth somewhere in the ballpark of $630 million over the course of 7 years and also will be up in the coming years. One may even see this as the blueprint and leverage point that PBC could use in projecting their valuation to FOX.
And lastly, you may have heard of the rising NBA salary cap this past summer. That jump was due to a 9 year, $24 billion dollar TV deal they signed with ESPN and Turner.
So back to PBC. $500 million a year for 10 years?
NASCAR makes $820 million a year
USGA is making $83 million a year.
NHL is making $200 million a year.
UFC is making $90 million a year.
NBA is making more than $2.5 billion a year.
It’s time to go back to the statement about FOX and its affiliates. Just to put in perspective what PBC means to FS1 at the moment.
September 13th, 2016 was the last day a PBC card aired on a FOX network. This is a company that has paid out lucrative contracts to former ESPN personalities to bolster their original programming and offer a legitimate alternative to the World Wide Leader.
Here are the top 15 programs and their ratings according to Nielsen Media from that day.
1. Premier Boxing Champions — Watts vs Ramirez — 182,000
2. Barcelona vs Celtic — 153,000
3. The Herd — 120,000
4. NASCAR Race Hub — 115,000
5. Undisputed — 82,000
6. Speak For Yourself — 63,000
7. Speak For Yourself — 62,000
8. NFL Films Presents — 49,000
9. MLB Whip Around — 39,000
10. UCL Pregame — 37,000
11. Undisputed — 31,000
12. FSL with Jay and Dan — 30,000
13. TMZ Sports — 17,000
14. MLBs Best — 9,000
15. Scottish Premiership — 8,000
Is PBC About To Shake Up The Boxing World?
Dan Rafael chat wrap 9/30:
- More popular: Cotto or Trinidad? Trinidad.
- Saunders vs. Brant? He was never going to face a puncher like that, he is all talk.
- BJS next opponent fought his last two fights on DiBella's NY club circuit. He isn't very good.
- For its fighters other than Canelo, GB has delivered the best fights it can.
- Broner might get a shot at Burns, if Burns wins next weekend.
- It isn't that Mares' eye is not healthy, but rather that NY has really strict medical guidelines.
- Never wish Canelo to get injured, but his injury is letting us not have to watch him fight a bum in December, and gives us Salido-Miura, Lomachenko-Walters, and allowing more budget to try and make GGG-Jacobs. Was told that this freed up a $4 million licence fee owed to Canelo.
- The upcoming fights to end 2016 do a lot to make the year better after the first 10 months.
- Jerry Jones put up a $5 million site fee for Canelo-Smith, so he owns the gate money.
- Canelo vs. Smith sold about 300k PPV's according to ODH.
- Loves Lomachenko vs. Walters, but heavily favors Lomachenko.
- Lomachenko a future #1 PFP fighter? Yes.
- We won't be closer to Joshua vs. Klitschko until the commissions make a decisions on Fury's titles.
- Not out of the question to wonder if Fury's team said he had mental issues to get out of the Klitschko fight, knowing he tested positive for cocaine, trying not to get stripped of the belts.
- Believes that Fury will be stripped of his belts, but not sure if any of them will be on the line for Joshua-Klitschko.
- Joshua vs. Klitschko talks are 9/10 seriousness level. A lot depends on the belt organizations.
- Fury likely will be stripped of his titles, other fighters will capture the belts, unless he continues fighting and becomes someones mandatory, he is now on the outside looking in.
- Braehmer W12 over Cleverly.
- Hatton vs. Bradley at 140? Bradley.
- Hopkins wants one more fight next year near his birthday. He wants a celebration build up before the fight, similar to how Kobe Bryant retired. GB and HBO are talking about possibilities.
- Andre Ward is dilusional. GGG never ducked him.
- Jacobs would be GGG's toughest opponent to date.
- Good chance Usyk will be on GGG's undercard in December.
- Hoping the WBA orders Braehmer the mandatory after Ward-Kovalev.
- There are PBC fighters calling other promoters about fights because they are unhappy with the inactivity and shrinking purses.
- Because PBC fighters were overpaid initially, they are going to either have to take a pay cut or not fight at all.
- If PBC ultimately fails, look for PBC fighters to look around and sign with other promoter's.
- JRock vs. Charlo? Who knows. It is supposed to happen, but it is one of the PBC fights currently in limbo.
- Does not believe for one second that Fox is going to give PBC a multi-billion dollar offer.
- Does not feel bad for PBC fighters. They took the deal to get the most money possible and the least risk fights.
- Bradley did the right thing by staying with TR. He was loyal and has made tons of money.
- Mikey Garcia vs. Zlaticanin is another PBC fight being discussed.
- Petrov W over Perez tonight.
- Frankie Gomez might be on the Salido-Miura undercard.
- No news on Imam.
- Ruiz vs. Parker? Has doubts. It is being talked about in New Zealand like it is a done deal, but TR has never been contacted by Parker's people.
- Sky PPV numbers for GGG-Brook? Around 500k.
- Hearn said that PBC reached out to him to inquire about Sam Eggington being an opponent for Danny Garcia.
- Danny Garcia will potentially be back in December.
- Stiverne and Povetkin are still negotiating.
- True or False: Pacquiao vs. Vargas will do less than 400k PPV buys? True.
- When choosing between Nov. PPV's, Pacquiao-Vargas has the better card overall and Ward-Kovalev has the best fight.
- Tomoki Kameda is supposed to fight Cecilio Santos on Oct. 15 in Mexico.
- There is a British boxer whose name is: Boy Jones Jr.
- Beterbiev's next fight is a stay busy fight and likely won't be on US TV.
- Vargas will probably get one fight to come back from layoff/injury, then will have to fight the winner of Salido-Miura.
- Has not heard Figueroa's name mentioned for anything.
- Likely be an immediate rematch for Linares-Crolla.
- Expect Inoue to fight New Year's Eve in Japan.
- More popular: Cotto or Trinidad? Trinidad.
- Saunders vs. Brant? He was never going to face a puncher like that, he is all talk.
- BJS next opponent fought his last two fights on DiBella's NY club circuit. He isn't very good.
- For its fighters other than Canelo, GB has delivered the best fights it can.
- Broner might get a shot at Burns, if Burns wins next weekend.
- It isn't that Mares' eye is not healthy, but rather that NY has really strict medical guidelines.
- Never wish Canelo to get injured, but his injury is letting us not have to watch him fight a bum in December, and gives us Salido-Miura, Lomachenko-Walters, and allowing more budget to try and make GGG-Jacobs. Was told that this freed up a $4 million licence fee owed to Canelo.
- The upcoming fights to end 2016 do a lot to make the year better after the first 10 months.
- Jerry Jones put up a $5 million site fee for Canelo-Smith, so he owns the gate money.
- Canelo vs. Smith sold about 300k PPV's according to ODH.
- Loves Lomachenko vs. Walters, but heavily favors Lomachenko.
- Lomachenko a future #1 PFP fighter? Yes.
- We won't be closer to Joshua vs. Klitschko until the commissions make a decisions on Fury's titles.
- Not out of the question to wonder if Fury's team said he had mental issues to get out of the Klitschko fight, knowing he tested positive for cocaine, trying not to get stripped of the belts.
- Believes that Fury will be stripped of his belts, but not sure if any of them will be on the line for Joshua-Klitschko.
- Joshua vs. Klitschko talks are 9/10 seriousness level. A lot depends on the belt organizations.
- Fury likely will be stripped of his titles, other fighters will capture the belts, unless he continues fighting and becomes someones mandatory, he is now on the outside looking in.
- Braehmer W12 over Cleverly.
- Hatton vs. Bradley at 140? Bradley.
- Hopkins wants one more fight next year near his birthday. He wants a celebration build up before the fight, similar to how Kobe Bryant retired. GB and HBO are talking about possibilities.
- Andre Ward is dilusional. GGG never ducked him.
- Jacobs would be GGG's toughest opponent to date.
- Good chance Usyk will be on GGG's undercard in December.
- Hoping the WBA orders Braehmer the mandatory after Ward-Kovalev.
- There are PBC fighters calling other promoters about fights because they are unhappy with the inactivity and shrinking purses.
- Because PBC fighters were overpaid initially, they are going to either have to take a pay cut or not fight at all.
- If PBC ultimately fails, look for PBC fighters to look around and sign with other promoter's.
- JRock vs. Charlo? Who knows. It is supposed to happen, but it is one of the PBC fights currently in limbo.
- Does not believe for one second that Fox is going to give PBC a multi-billion dollar offer.
- Does not feel bad for PBC fighters. They took the deal to get the most money possible and the least risk fights.
- Bradley did the right thing by staying with TR. He was loyal and has made tons of money.
- Mikey Garcia vs. Zlaticanin is another PBC fight being discussed.
- Petrov W over Perez tonight.
- Frankie Gomez might be on the Salido-Miura undercard.
- No news on Imam.
- Ruiz vs. Parker? Has doubts. It is being talked about in New Zealand like it is a done deal, but TR has never been contacted by Parker's people.
- Sky PPV numbers for GGG-Brook? Around 500k.
- Hearn said that PBC reached out to him to inquire about Sam Eggington being an opponent for Danny Garcia.
- Danny Garcia will potentially be back in December.
- Stiverne and Povetkin are still negotiating.
- True or False: Pacquiao vs. Vargas will do less than 400k PPV buys? True.
- When choosing between Nov. PPV's, Pacquiao-Vargas has the better card overall and Ward-Kovalev has the best fight.
- Tomoki Kameda is supposed to fight Cecilio Santos on Oct. 15 in Mexico.
- There is a British boxer whose name is: Boy Jones Jr.
- Beterbiev's next fight is a stay busy fight and likely won't be on US TV.
- Vargas will probably get one fight to come back from layoff/injury, then will have to fight the winner of Salido-Miura.
- Has not heard Figueroa's name mentioned for anything.
- Likely be an immediate rematch for Linares-Crolla.
- Expect Inoue to fight New Year's Eve in Japan.
Lol I can't believe someone wrote about this from a random post on boxingscene from a poster with two posts. Absolutely no evidence whatsoever.
Just look at the numbers, "$5 billion lifetime contract"?! Yeah fucking right. Maybe PBC does get a big deal at some point, but come on, no one is going to invest that kind of money in boxing right now especially considering the mediocre ratings PBC has been putting up and overall mediocre product. It would be fucking awesome don't get me wrong, but all this article is doing is getting boxing fans hopes up for something that is impossible to happen at this point in time.
Just look at the numbers, "$5 billion lifetime contract"?! Yeah fucking right. Maybe PBC does get a big deal at some point, but come on, no one is going to invest that kind of money in boxing right now especially considering the mediocre ratings PBC has been putting up and overall mediocre product. It would be fucking awesome don't get me wrong, but all this article is doing is getting boxing fans hopes up for something that is impossible to happen at this point in time.
Fury and his nonsense is about to fuck everything up. Parker's team are now talking about if Fury is stripped they want a shot at one of his vacant titles. So instead of a dope Joshua Vs. Parker fight for the IBF we're gonna get Parker Vs. someone he's going to smoke for another title. So disappointing man.
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It's really sad, his latest interview clearly shows a suicidal man.
Tyson Fury: I took cocaine but don't want to live any more | Sport | The Guardian
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...LalRVecqu5Dxg6M7A&sig2=-J5CcHAHFzBgEF98VVLqsQ
I've suspected he's bipolar but he sound manic depressed as well, I'm fact he said as much.
Tyson Fury: I took cocaine but don't want to live any more | Sport | The Guardian
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...LalRVecqu5Dxg6M7A&sig2=-J5CcHAHFzBgEF98VVLqsQ
I've suspected he's bipolar but he sound manic depressed as well, I'm fact he said as much.
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