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This some TMZ type shit but its kinda crazy, Virgil Hunter is Keyshia Cole's father, they just found out through paternity test. She's been looking for her father for years...
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Damn unless he was smashing his informant lol Virgil was denzel in training day LMAO
Demetrius Andrade sets troubles aside, says ambition won’t be denied
Michael Woods
May 13, 2016
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Photo by Naoki Fukuda
Andrade. It’s not pronounced “Ahn-drah-day.”
It’s “Ann-drayd.”
We should all know this by now.
Because Rhode Islander Demetrius Andrade is of a talent level that all heavy-duty fight fans should be knowing his name, and appreciating his game.
The fighter, who came out of the 2008 Olympics, now sees 2012 Olympians like Anthony Joshua winning crowns and making bank. The record of the 6-foot-1 lefty stands at 22-0, with 15 KOs, and the good news is, he seems to be poised for a run of activity.
The 28-year-old hitter, trained by his dad, Paul, managed by Ed Farris and co-promoted by Joe DeGuardia and Arthur Pelullo, fights Willie Nelson on June 11 at Turning Stone in Verona, New York. Showtime will showcase, on a tripleheader card topped by 140-pound gladiators Ruslan Provodnikov and John Molina.
My belief is that there’s no reason, I guess beyond maintaining an active schedule, why Andrade shouldn’t be holding straps at 154 and positioning himself to perhaps have fans lobbying on his behalf to get paired up with the Canelos and Cottos and the like. He agrees. “I think of myself as one of the best at 154,” he said.
Nelson (25-2-1, 15 KOs) is good, can be streaky and is the underdog versus the RI guy, who is back in New England after spending time in various map points (Cali, Atlanta, Florida) in the U.S.
Andrade hasn’t lost confidence because of inactivity – he’s completed four fights in 3 1/2 years. “It’s where I belong, where I deserve to be.” He says he now really gets it, what he can do, and what fans are wanting. Showing volume and aggression in more of every round is his aim, he says. “Now I’m letting it flow more, I used to force it.” Part of that is relaxation borne of confidence; in the amateurs he fought people like Keith Thurman and Shawn Porter, and did well, so he knows the level he’s at.
My eyes saw Andrade looking poised and strong and ready to elevate himself when he toyed with Brian Rose in Brooklyn in June 2014. But since then he fought once, last October. That is no way to convince the masses to place you on par with a Canelo, in talent, and stake a claim that you are a Top 25 pound-for-pound guy, on the ascent to the Top 10.
So what gives?
Contractual matters, promotional affairs, a lot of outside-the-ring stuff has kept him inactive. Andrade said he and co-promoters DeGuardia and Pelullo, who each have 25 percent of his contract, are involved in a court matter with Roc Nation Sports. His side maintains Roc tried to sign him to be in their stable and promised things, while Roc presumably takes issue with the contentions from Andrade and Co. “(The lawsuit) is in progress,” Andrade said. “I’m going to let the judge deal with that.” (I asked a Roc Nation spokesman if they cared to respond to this issue and will insert a reply if furnished.)
Andrade seems to know he must compartmentalize these different issues if he’s to handle Nelson, and then maybe progress to fight the winner of the Jermell Charlo vs. John Jackson bout (May 21, for the vacated WBC 154 belt). The winner of that is supposed to fight (“silver” champion) Charles Hatley and the sanctioning body says Andrade (who is currently rated No. 6 by THE RING) will fight the winner of that tangle. (The Charlo-Jackson winner is ordered to fight two mandatories: versus Hatley and then the Andrade-Nelson winner.) That all sounds like it could drag into late 2017 … so Andrade is open to picking up a new script.
“I’m a person who is going to look at the bright side. Bad things can happen. But right now I have my fight I’m looking at. Nelson has had big fights, he’s experienced. I think it’s one of the best 154 matchups there is. And the (court matters), that will come out when it comes out.” (He said there is no court date to progress the case on the docket as of now.)
Sure, his mind can drift. The inactivity means peers have already been given marquee matches and passed the tests. Why boxers have to negotiate as they do and don’t have the support structure, like the unions and player associations other sports do, gnaws at Andrade. “All the other sports, they have someone fighting for them. It would be a better sport if we had that,” he says.
Fan chatter, people critiquing possible paydays when top-tier collegiates get fat guarantees as first-year pros, that can be aggravating to hear. “And we’re not playing. You can get knocked out and stuff. It’s crazy people think that. But Floyd is an example. He wasn’t making it. He kept going, to get there.”
Andrade wants those mega marquee fights. He’s open to fighting the Charlos and Erislandy Laras and such, but the shinier targets are his aim. His final words? “I think I’m the best at 154. I want the top names. And I’m working to get in with those big guys.”
Michael Woods
May 13, 2016
[​IMG]
Photo by Naoki Fukuda
Andrade. It’s not pronounced “Ahn-drah-day.”
It’s “Ann-drayd.”
We should all know this by now.
Because Rhode Islander Demetrius Andrade is of a talent level that all heavy-duty fight fans should be knowing his name, and appreciating his game.
The fighter, who came out of the 2008 Olympics, now sees 2012 Olympians like Anthony Joshua winning crowns and making bank. The record of the 6-foot-1 lefty stands at 22-0, with 15 KOs, and the good news is, he seems to be poised for a run of activity.
The 28-year-old hitter, trained by his dad, Paul, managed by Ed Farris and co-promoted by Joe DeGuardia and Arthur Pelullo, fights Willie Nelson on June 11 at Turning Stone in Verona, New York. Showtime will showcase, on a tripleheader card topped by 140-pound gladiators Ruslan Provodnikov and John Molina.
My belief is that there’s no reason, I guess beyond maintaining an active schedule, why Andrade shouldn’t be holding straps at 154 and positioning himself to perhaps have fans lobbying on his behalf to get paired up with the Canelos and Cottos and the like. He agrees. “I think of myself as one of the best at 154,” he said.
Nelson (25-2-1, 15 KOs) is good, can be streaky and is the underdog versus the RI guy, who is back in New England after spending time in various map points (Cali, Atlanta, Florida) in the U.S.
Andrade hasn’t lost confidence because of inactivity – he’s completed four fights in 3 1/2 years. “It’s where I belong, where I deserve to be.” He says he now really gets it, what he can do, and what fans are wanting. Showing volume and aggression in more of every round is his aim, he says. “Now I’m letting it flow more, I used to force it.” Part of that is relaxation borne of confidence; in the amateurs he fought people like Keith Thurman and Shawn Porter, and did well, so he knows the level he’s at.
My eyes saw Andrade looking poised and strong and ready to elevate himself when he toyed with Brian Rose in Brooklyn in June 2014. But since then he fought once, last October. That is no way to convince the masses to place you on par with a Canelo, in talent, and stake a claim that you are a Top 25 pound-for-pound guy, on the ascent to the Top 10.
So what gives?
Contractual matters, promotional affairs, a lot of outside-the-ring stuff has kept him inactive. Andrade said he and co-promoters DeGuardia and Pelullo, who each have 25 percent of his contract, are involved in a court matter with Roc Nation Sports. His side maintains Roc tried to sign him to be in their stable and promised things, while Roc presumably takes issue with the contentions from Andrade and Co. “(The lawsuit) is in progress,” Andrade said. “I’m going to let the judge deal with that.” (I asked a Roc Nation spokesman if they cared to respond to this issue and will insert a reply if furnished.)
Andrade seems to know he must compartmentalize these different issues if he’s to handle Nelson, and then maybe progress to fight the winner of the Jermell Charlo vs. John Jackson bout (May 21, for the vacated WBC 154 belt). The winner of that is supposed to fight (“silver” champion) Charles Hatley and the sanctioning body says Andrade (who is currently rated No. 6 by THE RING) will fight the winner of that tangle. (The Charlo-Jackson winner is ordered to fight two mandatories: versus Hatley and then the Andrade-Nelson winner.) That all sounds like it could drag into late 2017 … so Andrade is open to picking up a new script.
“I’m a person who is going to look at the bright side. Bad things can happen. But right now I have my fight I’m looking at. Nelson has had big fights, he’s experienced. I think it’s one of the best 154 matchups there is. And the (court matters), that will come out when it comes out.” (He said there is no court date to progress the case on the docket as of now.)
Sure, his mind can drift. The inactivity means peers have already been given marquee matches and passed the tests. Why boxers have to negotiate as they do and don’t have the support structure, like the unions and player associations other sports do, gnaws at Andrade. “All the other sports, they have someone fighting for them. It would be a better sport if we had that,” he says.
Fan chatter, people critiquing possible paydays when top-tier collegiates get fat guarantees as first-year pros, that can be aggravating to hear. “And we’re not playing. You can get knocked out and stuff. It’s crazy people think that. But Floyd is an example. He wasn’t making it. He kept going, to get there.”
Andrade wants those mega marquee fights. He’s open to fighting the Charlos and Erislandy Laras and such, but the shinier targets are his aim. His final words? “I think I’m the best at 154. I want the top names. And I’m working to get in with those big guys.”
Dan Rafael ‏@danrafaelespn now7 minutes ago
Wilder promoter @loudibella on Povetkin test: 'It's extremely upsetting and disappointing and while I'm angry, I am certainly not shocked.'
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Dan Rafael ‏@danrafaelespn 17m17 minutes ago
With his positive drug test, a #FightFreak christened Povetkin as Dopevetkin today. LOL! #boxing
Wilder promoter @loudibella on Povetkin test: 'It's extremely upsetting and disappointing and while I'm angry, I am certainly not shocked.'
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Dan Rafael ‏@danrafaelespn 17m17 minutes ago
With his positive drug test, a #FightFreak christened Povetkin as Dopevetkin today. LOL! #boxing
MAYWEATHER VS. MCGREGOR
I'm glad that this isn't getting much attention from all the real Boxing dudes on here. But I'm still wanting to hear how everyone's feeling about this.
To me, Floyd is hillarious to go this route. Seems like some real race baiting bullshit. bomedy for real.
I'm glad that this isn't getting much attention from all the real Boxing dudes on here. But I'm still wanting to hear how everyone's feeling about this.
To me, Floyd is hillarious to go this route. Seems like some real race baiting bullshit. bomedy for real.
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It's just not even a good fantasy fight. I'd rather see Mayweather Vs. Berto II over Mayweather Vs. McGregor. Considering Floyd would never fight in the UFC or MMA period, it would have to happen in boxing where McGregor would have no chance at all.
He'd end up being Floyd's first stoppage since Victor Ortiz and his first clean stoppage since Hatton. I get it from Mayweather's perspective though. People are in love with Conor and can't see the difference between a guy fighting in MMA and boxing the greatest boxer of this generation. It would be no contest at all and the easiest payday Floyd's had since fighting Baldomir.
He'd end up being Floyd's first stoppage since Victor Ortiz and his first clean stoppage since Hatton. I get it from Mayweather's perspective though. People are in love with Conor and can't see the difference between a guy fighting in MMA and boxing the greatest boxer of this generation. It would be no contest at all and the easiest payday Floyd's had since fighting Baldomir.
The question is: will people get behind this fight ? or any other Mayweather fight for that matter---Pacquiao rematch or Danny Garcia--- OVER GGG vs. Canelo for the big SEPTEMBER weekend.
It'd be damn shame.
It'd be damn shame.
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Casual might cuz its two big names but there's no real point talking about it, Dana White will never allow one of his in a boxing match, it's the same reason Silva vs Roy Jones never happening despite both sides wanting to fight. And obviously Floyd isn't going into a UFC fight, even if he did the massive amounts of money Floyd takes is not something the UFC would be comfortable with considering the way their PPV revenue works.
I think the fight should still go on. The reason for this is the substance was recently banned (in Jan) and it's similar to Sharapova's dirty test. If they allow the fight to go on then the ramifications are big because it sends the message that you can test dirty and still make money. But then again, this is some shit that was recently on the list, so it is what it is. I know Wilder was supposed to make like $5 million from the fight so this has to hurt. But why wasn't it detected in the first run of tests?
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Might have been seen by all, or posted here before but in case you missed it:
GGG vs. Bute
Great Amateur fight, I enjoyed it.
GGG vs. Bute
Great Amateur fight, I enjoyed it.
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I thought he failed one test?
I don't think he should be banned that long since this substance has been legal for 45 years and only just put on the banned substance list in January. However, he should lose his mandatory spot obviously, heavily fined and a 6 month ban is good for me. If he took steroids that would be different, but he didn't so two years is too harsh imo.
I don't think he should be banned that long since this substance has been legal for 45 years and only just put on the banned substance list in January. However, he should lose his mandatory spot obviously, heavily fined and a 6 month ban is good for me. If he took steroids that would be different, but he didn't so two years is too harsh imo.
Negative means he was clean, positive means dirty. So he tested positive once after testing clean. It's not a steroid or anything like that, was legal for 45 years and just made the banned substance in January. Very controversial topic right now. Blatant enough for punishment absolutely, not bad enough for two year suspension imo. Hell, how long was King Kong Ortiz banned for, 6 months? And that was steroids.
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