BLAME IT ON (gOD)
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FIFTY FIRST OF ALL, WHO SAYS YOU gO TO HEAVEN AND WHO gOES TO HELL? THAT'S ONE CONCEPT YAW HAVE FUCCED UP. AND THERE IS A LOT OF gOOD PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE BIBLE OR ACCEPT CHRISTIANITY. BUT THAT'S WHY YOU gOT PEOPLE PREACHIN' THEM AND SHOWIN' THEM. IF THEY DECIDE TO SOAK UP gAME THEN THAT'S ON THE INDIVIDUAL.
BUT DEEP THOUgHT,
YOU STRESSED, "But 2,000 years ago this was simply not possible. People still thought the earth was flat dude"
WE KNOW THIS, BUT YET AND STILL THE BIBLE WAS SAYIN' IT WAS ROUND.
THEN YOU STRESS, ". Any person could roll into town on their donkey and talk a good game and get the nimrods in their loincloths and new Air Moses' to bow down. Snake oil merchants have been around for a very long time."
TRUE, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BAK UP YOUR gAME.
THEN YOU gO ON TO SAY, "But beyond that you're talking about researching something that is well beyond the scope of modern history. Cross reference what? The Dead Sea Scrolls? Think Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John left their Palm Pilots laying around somewhere? I won't even get into the language barrier or shifting dialects. What you propose is impossible. The bottom line is either way you're stuck picking through another man's interpetation.
NO IT'S NOT. RESEARCHIN' IS WELL POSSIBLE. IT'S UP TO YOU TO DECIPHER WHAT IS ACTUAL. DON'T KNOK SAMETHIN' IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. STUDY EVERYTHANg WITH AN OPEN MIND.
THEN YOU REPOST AND STRESS, "...and "One Religion, One Truth?"
I NEVA SAID THE WORD "RELIgION". I SAID ONE TRUTH. JUST LIKE WE ONE EARTH. IF YOU HAVE DIFFERENT RELIgIONS WITH DIFFERENT BELIEFS THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO EACH PERSON WHEN THEY DIE? IF I HAVE A CHILD WITH A HINDU BREEZY AND I BELIEVE YOU JUST DIE AND THAT'S THAT BUT SHE BELIEVES OUR CHILD WAS REINCARNATED THEN WHOSE TO SAY WHAT? WHAT HAPPENS TO THE CHILD?
AND WHAT IS RELIgION, SINCE YOU JUST THROWIN' THE WORD OUT THERE?
BUT DEEP THOUgHT,
YOU STRESSED, "But 2,000 years ago this was simply not possible. People still thought the earth was flat dude"
WE KNOW THIS, BUT YET AND STILL THE BIBLE WAS SAYIN' IT WAS ROUND.
THEN YOU STRESS, ". Any person could roll into town on their donkey and talk a good game and get the nimrods in their loincloths and new Air Moses' to bow down. Snake oil merchants have been around for a very long time."
TRUE, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BAK UP YOUR gAME.
THEN YOU gO ON TO SAY, "But beyond that you're talking about researching something that is well beyond the scope of modern history. Cross reference what? The Dead Sea Scrolls? Think Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John left their Palm Pilots laying around somewhere? I won't even get into the language barrier or shifting dialects. What you propose is impossible. The bottom line is either way you're stuck picking through another man's interpetation.
NO IT'S NOT. RESEARCHIN' IS WELL POSSIBLE. IT'S UP TO YOU TO DECIPHER WHAT IS ACTUAL. DON'T KNOK SAMETHIN' IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. STUDY EVERYTHANg WITH AN OPEN MIND.
THEN YOU REPOST AND STRESS, "...and "One Religion, One Truth?"
I NEVA SAID THE WORD "RELIgION". I SAID ONE TRUTH. JUST LIKE WE ONE EARTH. IF YOU HAVE DIFFERENT RELIgIONS WITH DIFFERENT BELIEFS THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO EACH PERSON WHEN THEY DIE? IF I HAVE A CHILD WITH A HINDU BREEZY AND I BELIEVE YOU JUST DIE AND THAT'S THAT BUT SHE BELIEVES OUR CHILD WAS REINCARNATED THEN WHOSE TO SAY WHAT? WHAT HAPPENS TO THE CHILD?
AND WHAT IS RELIgION, SINCE YOU JUST THROWIN' THE WORD OUT THERE?
i agree wit deep thought and snubnoze
i may be off subject but i find all this shit confusion. i ask myself what relgion is really the real one? what make a relgion credible over another one? to tell you the truth i feel lost to a degree, i beleive in god, i dont know if thats enough or not....i will just put it like this the saga gon continue forever
i may be off subject but i find all this shit confusion. i ask myself what relgion is really the real one? what make a relgion credible over another one? to tell you the truth i feel lost to a degree, i beleive in god, i dont know if thats enough or not....i will just put it like this the saga gon continue forever
NINO BLAK,
YOU STRESSED, "? to tell you the truth i feel lost to a degree, i beleive in god, i dont know if thats enough or not"
SO WHY DO YOU FEEL THAT WAY?
THEN YOU STRESS, "i may be off subject but i find all this shit confusion"
WHY IS THAT? WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE? WHAT DO YOU PUT YOUR FAITH ON?
AND THEN YOU ASK, "what make a relgion credible over another one? "
BASICALLY ITS THE LOgIC. BUT IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL THANg TO PEEP gAME FOR YOURSELF.
YOU STRESSED, "? to tell you the truth i feel lost to a degree, i beleive in god, i dont know if thats enough or not"
SO WHY DO YOU FEEL THAT WAY?
THEN YOU STRESS, "i may be off subject but i find all this shit confusion"
WHY IS THAT? WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE? WHAT DO YOU PUT YOUR FAITH ON?
AND THEN YOU ASK, "what make a relgion credible over another one? "
BASICALLY ITS THE LOgIC. BUT IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL THANg TO PEEP gAME FOR YOURSELF.
ok i will answer your questions in order you asked them...
1. the reason i said this is because i beleive in god, a higher power, however i dont have an actual religion, that is why i said i dont know if thats enough
2. i find it confusion because its soooo many religions. so many different ways to go.
3. about the credibilitly in relgion....i mean exactly what i said, what makes one more credible over another one? i mean im not talkin bout no worshippin cows or no kind of crazy shit, i mean what makes a real religion valued over another, basically what determines what makes it right??? like i always say try to convince a chrisitan to join another church it doesnt work, try to convince a muslim to be a chrisitan it doesnt work. each one feels their religion is the right one. and one more thing....honestly,if you were born in egypt what religion do you think you would be??????
1. the reason i said this is because i beleive in god, a higher power, however i dont have an actual religion, that is why i said i dont know if thats enough
2. i find it confusion because its soooo many religions. so many different ways to go.
3. about the credibilitly in relgion....i mean exactly what i said, what makes one more credible over another one? i mean im not talkin bout no worshippin cows or no kind of crazy shit, i mean what makes a real religion valued over another, basically what determines what makes it right??? like i always say try to convince a chrisitan to join another church it doesnt work, try to convince a muslim to be a chrisitan it doesnt work. each one feels their religion is the right one. and one more thing....honestly,if you were born in egypt what religion do you think you would be??????
ALRIgHT NINO BLAK,
LET ME gO DOWN THE LIST AS YOU NUMBERED IT.
#1 YOU STRESSED, "...i beleive in god, a higher power, however i dont have an actual religion, that is why i said i dont know if thats enough"
I TAKE IT THAT YOU ARE SEEKIN' HIM. BUT WHO IS (gOD)? IS THAT HIS NAME? WHO TOLD YOU HE EXISTED?
#2 THEN YOU STRESS, "i find it confusion because its soooo many religions. so many different ways to go."
I AgREE. BUT PEEP: THE ONLY REASON YOU KNOW OF A CREATOR OR THIS "(gOD)" IS CAUSE EVENTUALLY DOWN THE LINE YOU PICCED IT UP FROM FAMILY WHO PICCED IT UP EVENTUALLY FROM THE SCRIPTURES. SO IF THAT IS WHAT YOUR FAITH IS BASED ON THEN I WOULD SUggEST TO gET TO THE ROOT OF YOUR BELIEFS. STUDY AND RESEARCH.
#3 THEN YOU gO ON TO SAY, "about the credibilitly in relgion....i mean exactly what i said, what makes one more credible over another one? i mean im not talkin bout no worshippin cows or no kind of crazy shit, i mean what makes a real religion valued over another, basically what determines what makes it right??? like i always say try to convince a chrisitan to join another church it doesnt work, try to convince a muslim to be a chrisitan it doesnt work. each one feels their religion is the right one. and one more thing....honestly,if you were born in egypt what religion do you think you would be??????
LOOK, IT'S ABOUT ACQUIRIN' ACCURATE KNOWLEDgE WITH THE THANgS BROUgHT FORWARD AND WHAT YOU PUT YOUR FAITH ON. A LOT OF RELIgIONS IS ABOUT HOLDIN' TRADITIONS.
LET ME gO DOWN THE LIST AS YOU NUMBERED IT.
#1 YOU STRESSED, "...i beleive in god, a higher power, however i dont have an actual religion, that is why i said i dont know if thats enough"
I TAKE IT THAT YOU ARE SEEKIN' HIM. BUT WHO IS (gOD)? IS THAT HIS NAME? WHO TOLD YOU HE EXISTED?
#2 THEN YOU STRESS, "i find it confusion because its soooo many religions. so many different ways to go."
I AgREE. BUT PEEP: THE ONLY REASON YOU KNOW OF A CREATOR OR THIS "(gOD)" IS CAUSE EVENTUALLY DOWN THE LINE YOU PICCED IT UP FROM FAMILY WHO PICCED IT UP EVENTUALLY FROM THE SCRIPTURES. SO IF THAT IS WHAT YOUR FAITH IS BASED ON THEN I WOULD SUggEST TO gET TO THE ROOT OF YOUR BELIEFS. STUDY AND RESEARCH.
#3 THEN YOU gO ON TO SAY, "about the credibilitly in relgion....i mean exactly what i said, what makes one more credible over another one? i mean im not talkin bout no worshippin cows or no kind of crazy shit, i mean what makes a real religion valued over another, basically what determines what makes it right??? like i always say try to convince a chrisitan to join another church it doesnt work, try to convince a muslim to be a chrisitan it doesnt work. each one feels their religion is the right one. and one more thing....honestly,if you were born in egypt what religion do you think you would be??????
LOOK, IT'S ABOUT ACQUIRIN' ACCURATE KNOWLEDgE WITH THE THANgS BROUgHT FORWARD AND WHAT YOU PUT YOUR FAITH ON. A LOT OF RELIgIONS IS ABOUT HOLDIN' TRADITIONS.
sup EDJ, DEEP
talking about this from a biblical perspective...
it clearly states in the bible, that those who HAVE not heard the word shall be redeemed, but those WHO have must choose once the word is recieved...
the bible is based on a choice, NOT BEING GOOD, OR GOOD DEEDS...
yes of course the bible shows you how to live a better life, but that is for you as the individual to live for GOD your father, not for the masses...
i believe the bible, but i don't state that it is fact...i can't, i believe on the principle of faith...
i'm sure someone has stated science...
well...
everything that science supposedly can or has answered, was here long before the word SCIENCE could be written...
evolution goes against the 2nd law of science, yes evolution exsists, just not as a form of creation...
hell...
anybody up for becoming a FREEMASON???
talking about this from a biblical perspective...
it clearly states in the bible, that those who HAVE not heard the word shall be redeemed, but those WHO have must choose once the word is recieved...
the bible is based on a choice, NOT BEING GOOD, OR GOOD DEEDS...
yes of course the bible shows you how to live a better life, but that is for you as the individual to live for GOD your father, not for the masses...
i believe the bible, but i don't state that it is fact...i can't, i believe on the principle of faith...
i'm sure someone has stated science...
well...
everything that science supposedly can or has answered, was here long before the word SCIENCE could be written...
evolution goes against the 2nd law of science, yes evolution exsists, just not as a form of creation...
hell...
anybody up for becoming a FREEMASON???
partially from what i've become to learn from all that i have read and studied, i feel that there is a higher power, that guides me, i have read alot on many, many religions and other books...
the bible just touches me like no other...people say it's full of holes and inconsistences...but not for me, it answers what needs to be answered, all that has been prophesied, to this point in time has come to pass...
and when the peace comes in the middle east...i'll really know it then....
the bible just touches me like no other...people say it's full of holes and inconsistences...but not for me, it answers what needs to be answered, all that has been prophesied, to this point in time has come to pass...
and when the peace comes in the middle east...i'll really know it then....
edj, i still cant understand what you are tyrin to say man. all im sayin is by us bein in 2002 and none of us know shit about hundreds/thousand years ago....how can we know which way to go? thats what im sayin. like i asked you earlier if you were born in egypt what would your relgiion be????? if you was in china what do you think it would be????? to me its just like in school when they tell you about folk tales, and how things in the story change and somebody passes it on and the story is changed....i mean what the fuck its 2002 how we get here and just assume somethin cause everybody else did it or thats all we know
NINOBLAK,
JUST CAUSE YOU LIVIN' IN A COUNTRY THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY AND HISTORICALLY RAN BY A CERTAIN RELIgION, DOESN'T MEAN YOU gONNA END UP WORSHIPPIN' THOSE gODS OR BEIN' OF THAT RELIgION. IT'S LIKE STEREOTYPIN' A RACE. I.E: ALL CHINESE ARE BUDDHIST, ALL ARABS ARE MUSLIMS, ALL INDIANS FROM INDIA ARE HINDU, ALL AMERICANS ARE CHRISTIANS, OR ALL MEXICAN ARE CATHOLIC. SEE WHAT I'M SAYIN'? JUST CAUSE YOU A CERTAIN CULTURE DON'T MEAN YOU NECESSARILY WORSHIP THE RELIgION THAT IS PRE-DOMINANTLY THE CLERgY THERE.
BUT WE DO KNOW OF THANgS OF HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF YEARS IF YOU STUDY THE HISTORY OF YOUR SUBJECT. N-E-THANg CAN BE BROUgHT OUT TO LIgHT WITH THE PROPER RESEARCH.
JUST DON'T ASSUME THAT WE DON'T KNOW SHIT AND THAT WE NEVA WILL. DON'T SELL YOURSELF OUT SHORT PLAYA.
JUST CAUSE YOU LIVIN' IN A COUNTRY THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY AND HISTORICALLY RAN BY A CERTAIN RELIgION, DOESN'T MEAN YOU gONNA END UP WORSHIPPIN' THOSE gODS OR BEIN' OF THAT RELIgION. IT'S LIKE STEREOTYPIN' A RACE. I.E: ALL CHINESE ARE BUDDHIST, ALL ARABS ARE MUSLIMS, ALL INDIANS FROM INDIA ARE HINDU, ALL AMERICANS ARE CHRISTIANS, OR ALL MEXICAN ARE CATHOLIC. SEE WHAT I'M SAYIN'? JUST CAUSE YOU A CERTAIN CULTURE DON'T MEAN YOU NECESSARILY WORSHIP THE RELIgION THAT IS PRE-DOMINANTLY THE CLERgY THERE.
BUT WE DO KNOW OF THANgS OF HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF YEARS IF YOU STUDY THE HISTORY OF YOUR SUBJECT. N-E-THANg CAN BE BROUgHT OUT TO LIgHT WITH THE PROPER RESEARCH.
JUST DON'T ASSUME THAT WE DON'T KNOW SHIT AND THAT WE NEVA WILL. DON'T SELL YOURSELF OUT SHORT PLAYA.
nah i dont think im sellin myself short....you just keep it real man.....im not stereotypin but you know if you was born in another country 9 times out of 10 you would be the predominate religion of that country..you probably wouldnt even consider another relgiion, you would go by what you raised on, what everybody else in your country is doing and wouldnt think twice about another religion.....thats just bein real. im not sayin ALL or stereotypin but thats just the truth
here's what latter day saints believe, yall may agree or not agree. Everyone is ressurected, good, and bad. We came to earth to forget the perfection we lived with god in the pre-existance as spiritual children of his. On earth, we are TRULY free, because we can choose good, or bad... before, with him, we knew of his perfection, and would never choose bad, so therefore we could not grow, since we weren't free. Our father wants us to be like him, so he sent us to earth, to forget him, and find our way back. He also sent the holy ghost to give us a conscience, and to lead us along the path back to him, all the while leaving us free to choose good, or bad, at every turn.
The only way back to him is through Jesus Christ, who atoned for all the sins each of us committed, or ever will commit. If you don't accept Jesus in this lifetime, you will be given a second chance after your death, as a spirit. After death, your mind will be clearer, because you won't be tempted by the world, or even on it anymore. So, even if someone has never HEARD of Jesus Christ, they can still go to heaven. If someone actively refused Christ on earth, knowing in their heart Christ was the savior, they get no second chance.
That's why god doesn't walk among us, becuase it would defeat the whole purpose of allowing us to choose good vs. evil. What idiot wouldn't choose good, if they MET god face to face? That's also why you have a thousand different churches, people believe their heart, not what some preacher tells them. I'm not gonna convert anybody by telling you all this, because it's not YOUR experience, you're not gonna listen to me. And that's the case with every church on the face of the earth. God will NEVER allow his existence to be scientifically proven, because that again would defeat Faith. You must have faith in him, before he will prove himself to you. I'm sure all the religious cats like Heresy and others on here will tell you, once you have faith in the lord, with no proof, he will testify to you that him, and his son both exist. It's backwards, but that's the whole deal with faith.
I have scriptural references to back this up, but most of them are from the book of mormon, which most if not all of you would summarily reject. Peace~
The only way back to him is through Jesus Christ, who atoned for all the sins each of us committed, or ever will commit. If you don't accept Jesus in this lifetime, you will be given a second chance after your death, as a spirit. After death, your mind will be clearer, because you won't be tempted by the world, or even on it anymore. So, even if someone has never HEARD of Jesus Christ, they can still go to heaven. If someone actively refused Christ on earth, knowing in their heart Christ was the savior, they get no second chance.
That's why god doesn't walk among us, becuase it would defeat the whole purpose of allowing us to choose good vs. evil. What idiot wouldn't choose good, if they MET god face to face? That's also why you have a thousand different churches, people believe their heart, not what some preacher tells them. I'm not gonna convert anybody by telling you all this, because it's not YOUR experience, you're not gonna listen to me. And that's the case with every church on the face of the earth. God will NEVER allow his existence to be scientifically proven, because that again would defeat Faith. You must have faith in him, before he will prove himself to you. I'm sure all the religious cats like Heresy and others on here will tell you, once you have faith in the lord, with no proof, he will testify to you that him, and his son both exist. It's backwards, but that's the whole deal with faith.
I have scriptural references to back this up, but most of them are from the book of mormon, which most if not all of you would summarily reject. Peace~