Black on Black Violence in the late 80's

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Ry

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When conscious hip hop was huge in the late 80's, early 90's was there any effect on black on black violence? Did people actually pay attention to the message in hip hop from this era?
Likewise, is violence higher today with the gangsta/thug image that is so popular?
 

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FIRST QUESTION,
PROBABLY BAK IN THE EASTCOAST, THUS YOUR BAKPAK ERA. THE WEST WAS ALWAYS LEFT OUT.

XND QUESTION,
I DON'T COMPREHEND YOUR QUESTION. YOU ASSIMILATIN' A gANgSTA TO A PIECE OF SHIT AND A gIMMIK. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION FROM WHAT I UNDA-STAND OF IT, THERE'S PROBABLY MORE WANNA-BE'S FROM DIFFERENT RACES AND CULTURAL BAKgROUNDS DUE TO THE MAINSTREAM ACCEPTANCE OF IT.
 

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i dont think hip hop back in the 80s and early 90s had much effect on black on black crime. at that time hip hop wasnt as prevelant in the media as it is today so i doubt it made much of a change...
 
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MR RY said:
When conscious hip hop was huge in the late 80's, early 90's was there any effect on black on black violence? Did people actually pay attention to the message in hip hop from this era?
Likewise, is violence higher today with the gangsta/thug image that is so popular?
yes, yes...and yes.
 

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with the widespread glorification of gangs, crime, and drugs in mainstream music...yes, crime is higher due to rappers
 
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mouth_my_nuts said:
with the widespread glorification of gangs, crime, and drugs in mainstream music...yes, crime is higher due to rappers
here in L.A. gang violence/murder is actually down compared to the 80's/90's,i think the year with the highest amount of murders was 92'...rappers might have an influence on small town/suberban folks who think its the thing to do,but i dont think they have any effect on large cities that have always had high amounts of violence.
 

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that shows how if fluctuates so much, here by Sonoma gang violence has increased alot with sur/nor.....they say theres a gang member every 150 feet, richmond just recently had the ATF there because of all the illegal firearms...
 
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that shows how if fluctuates so much, here by Sonoma gang violence has increased alot with sur/nor.....they say theres a gang member every 150 feet, richmond just recently had the ATF there because of all the illegal firearms...
but does rap music have anything to do with this increase?
 
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Very true

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-05-27-prison-population_x.htm

"In 2003, 68% of prison and jail inmates were members of racial or ethnic minorities, the government said. An estimated 12% of all black men in their 20s were in jails or prisons, as were 3.7% of Hispanic men and 1.6% of white men in that age group, according to the report."


More Black criminals in Jail = Less Black on Black crime.....I guess (no racist).
 

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When conscious hip hop was huge in the late 80's, early 90's was there any effect on black on black violence?
Meaning did it lower black on black violence? No, I don't believe so. During the late 80's and early 90's the form of hip hop you make reference to had to compete with "gangsta rap" and its many variants.

Did people actually pay attention to the message in hip hop from this era?
Did they pay attention meaning did they recieve it as a good idea? Possibly. But what you should really be asking is if they actually APPLIED what they learned or changed living conditions (mentality) or habits.

Likewise, is violence higher today with the gangsta/thug image that is so popular?
Actually, I don't believe the gangsta/thug image is all that popular now. IMHO the popular sound is faggoty party music. This is the music where niggas act like faggots, dance like bitches, swivel their necks like whores, promote drug use and erratic driving. BUT, I believe things are more quicker to escalate into more severe forms of violence than compared to back in the day. In the late 80's and early 90's you still had people willing to let the hands go. Now days hand battles are scarce.
 
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wow... if you think music actually has an impact on crime in the ghetto ... you must have never heard of POVERTY .

mouth_my_nuts said:
with the widespread glorification of gangs, crime, and drugs in mainstream music...yes, crime is higher due to rappers
 
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True, the ones who run the country anyway. but i havent heard of someone breaking in to cars or slangin shit just to do em (im sure it happens but i havent witnessed it)), it all depends on which is the lesser of the two evils, the politician who has the money too take more money, or the broke person who has the gun and a sac to make money...
 
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I mean, all Rich people. Bar none. Every single one. If you listen closely, there ARE PEOPLE HERE who would make such statements, that they are all criminals and get their money by being drug dealers, exploiting 3rd world countries, holding poor people down, etc.

....EVERY SINGLE ONE.
 
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"Nigga, think if you woke up and all of a sudden nigga you was off in my hood/ I'm a real thuggish nigga/ So uhh... I would have to kill ya (so dumb)" <- I think that's what he says at the end of that line I'm not sure tho.
-Bone, E. 1999 Eternal CD

^What black on black violence message in the good 'ol days?

I guess it all depends on how you look at it.

All intensity is good it just has to be put towards a positive goal.

The willingness to defend and kill for something is there. The intimidation is there, which will usually 9 times out of 10 stop physical violence. Loyalty is there also.

Some see a black on black violence message. I see a warrior who needs a righteous cause.