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NAMO

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yea they are working on a photo shoot with Osama Bin Laden right now in Washington and getting their most experienced photo shop personnel to cook something up that the public will believe.
emma is unavailable, maybe that is why we are waiting so long..

nope they said they werent gonna do it
if they don't then it's the biggest conspiracy known to man. If they are smart they will release it.
 
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you mean you just like reading the track listings?
LOL, yeah kinda. my auntie always be like, "if you wanna take it, just take. why you always look at it."
but she's had it in her CD collection since the movie came out, so i dont wanna take it. I've heard it plenty of time tho.
 
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if they don't then it's the biggest conspiracy known to man. If they are smart they will release it.
they said that if al queda killed a us soldier...lets say pat tillman for example...and then released a pic of him with his brains blown out and shit, americans would be hella furious and find it disrespectful. so supposedly theyre just trying not necessarily to be respectful, but just avoiding getting islamist fundamentalist all riled up and dumping fuel on the fire

if obama says no it means no. HE'S THE HEAD OF THE MUTHAFUCKIN STATE NUKKAH!! WHAT THE FUCK YOU THANKIN NUKKAH?!?
 

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well i guess obama said he wont release the photos

yea i called bullshit when i crawled downstairs on sunday to hear the news

i still call bullshit today

i still think he died in pakistan during the bombing of the tora bora mountains

theres just too much fishy shit with this bin laden dude, hes like a comic book super villain i swear
 

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No I don't
That’s precisely my point, Phil. You’re questioning who the lady is and if she is reliable, yet before these events, you personally never heard anything about her. Don’t get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with being a skeptic or critical thinker, but you’re implying that I need to know her personally (refer to previous posts) to make a logical assessment about her when I don’t.

but I don't really see what you're getting at either?
I just explained it.

What do you know about her family's history outside of personal experience? What medium informed you of who she is and what she's about and how is it any more reliable than the associated press?
Phil, why don’t you read about the lady like I did? You’ll see exactly who she is and why she is reliable.

not that the ap is reliable but im assuming you;re going somewhere with this as if her word is bond and 100 percent verifiable.
See above.

i cant dispute any of that and wont try. but that still doesnt prove he has been dead for all this time. not one bit. what makes those sources credible? honestly? who doesn't have an agenda? nothing you typed verifies that bhutto was correct about osama being killed years ago.
Phil, those sources are there for your pleasure not mine. If I had come with a source that you are unfamiliar with, you would do exactly what you’re doing now which is ask questions but not look into what you’re being told. If I gave you a link to Alex Jones, Rense or any of the hundreds of “conspiracy” sites out there you would have completely brushed it aside. What’s even more telling however is you admit that you can’t dispute any of it, won’t even try but then make the claim that nothing I typed verifies that she was correct about Osama being killed years ago. If you can’t dispute the info Phil, how can you make that claim? You can’t.

my point is, acting like you know whats going on is ridiculous.
Phil, acting like you don’t know what is going on is ridiculous. Have you once saw me say I was in a goddamn cave or that I was on a mission to capture the guy? No, what you see me doing is using inductive and deductive reasoning to come to a very simple and logical assessment. My premise is very simple and fits along with the true meaning of Occam’s Razor. Your theory is nothing and rooted in questioning me which is the most elementary of fallacies. I’m not the one who should be questioned here, the government is because after all, the government is the one who has the history of lying to the people. The government is the one who has a history of hidden agendas. The positive relies with the government Phil, they’re the one making the initial claim that they just killed a guy who despite having a history of kidney disease and diabetes, and despite all our technology, was able to avoid capture for 10 years.

you dont have any better clue than us what REALLY happened and who is telling the truth or feeding propaganda. nobody does but the people in the middle of the shit.
See above.

all the shit you say that is evidence that you have an idea what really went on is just as likely a bullshit story as anything else unless you were actually there. NOBODY KNOWS WHATS GOING ON. NOBODY HAS A CLUE. AND THE MORE YOU THINK YOU KNOW OR HAVE THE UPPER HAND, THE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH YOU PROBABLY ARE.
This has already been addressed.

in fact, like ive said earlier, odds are just as good that he's still alive kickin it with 2pac and elvis.
I’d believe that before I believe he was 86’d by some Navy Seals a couple of days (or weeks) ago.

let me get this straight heresy, you are providing evidence of your claim that comes from fox news, the new york times, and the u.s. congress.

really?
I already explained why you were given those links.

so what makes these tidbits true while the other 99 percent of their drivel is propaganda? i just dont understand that one bit. who has the magic decoder ring determining what is truth and what is "what they want us to think"
It’s called critical thinking and critical assessment. I’m sure your local JC or CC has courses pertaining to these subjects. It has nothing to do with a decoder ring but understanding who exactly is telling us information and what happens after the information is told.

what standard is used to decide what is real and what isn't? i'm quite interested to see how you differentiate fact and propaganda.
Why are you interested when you’re not going to apply it, have stated that none of us know anything, etc?
 

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im not doubting what youre saying heresy, but im trying to piece it together.

so what are the theories as to the reasoning behind the govt not announcing his death and taking credit for it if it happened so long ago?...say during the bush administration?

how many ppl in govt. both rep and dem had to have known the dude has been dead so long now?
It's very simple. It's maximizing. What would benefit the government the most and keep things stable? Announcing it years ago or keeping the story alive and cashing in when it's needed the most? Which yields the best bang for the buck and allows you to see ROI?
 

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You dont know anything for sure heresy none of us does. you still didnt answer my questions. all i see is a bunch of "see above" or "i already explained this" when you didnt explain shit.

you didnt tell me why your method of learning about bhutto is propaganda proof.

you assume the claim that osama had kidney problems is true. can you verify it? no. none of us can.

im not saying youre wrong, im just saying its ignorant to act like youre right. you dont know.
 

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and i dont sweep anything under the rug. not alex jones. not anything. i read and absorb everything with a grain of salt. but one thing i don't do is say how corrupt the media is and rail about how the govt controls them but then use them for sources when its convenient. those links you gave me dont contain near as many facts as speculation or 2nd hand commentary. theres no evidence to back up a lot of shit being said.
 

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they said that if al queda killed a us soldier...lets say pat tillman for example...and then released a pic of him with his brains blown out and shit, americans would be hella furious and find it disrespectful. so supposedly theyre just trying not necessarily to be respectful, but just avoiding getting islamist fundamentalist all riled up and dumping fuel on the fire

if obama says no it means no. HE'S THE HEAD OF THE MUTHAFUCKIN STATE NUKKAH!! WHAT THE FUCK YOU THANKIN NUKKAH?!?
untill there is proof, this is all bullshit. I will give them benefit of the doubt but the longer it drags on without any proof it will continue to be a conspiracy.

they release saddams kids shot in the fucken heads and also the execution of saddam lol why is this different.

and taliban release video/photo when they kill us soldiers all the time.

this all is sounding fishy, first they say he was armed and fought back, now he wasn't armed if so then why not take him alive? are they scared he will reveal things if kept alive? Yup.

Oh hey guys we killed bin laden and dumped his body in the sea lulz

hey can we see a photo or some proof?

lol nah


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for me, obama went from hero to huge faggot in the matter of a few days.
 

HERESY

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You dont know anything for sure heresy none of us does. you still didnt answer my questions. all i see is a bunch of "see above" or "i already explained this" when you didnt explain shit.
Phil, you can't blame me if your cognitive skills are a bit sketchy. I've answered your questions and tell you to "see above" because I don't want to keep addressing something I've addressed. And since we're on the topic of me still not answering your question (something unfounded), you've yet to provide ANYTHING about your claims referring to Bhutto and Osama being alive.

you didnt tell me why your method of learning about bhutto is propaganda proof.
I have told you. I told you to do your own reading and read about who the lady was before you actually comment on her. See, that is what informed people with basic intelligence do, Phil. They speak on things when they've made critical assessments or have information that makes logical sense. You didn't do that.

What you want me to do, which I'm not going to, is to go into a long list of cognitive biases and explain the shit.

you assume the claim that osama had kidney problems is true. can you verify it? no. none of us can.
Can you verify that it he didn't? Phil can you verify that you can see the sun from the moon? Can you verify that right now I'm typing to you? You aren't using logic Phil. What you're using is an underhanded tactic known as bottle-spinning. No Phil, I wasn't there and no Phil I don't take the CIA's take on him having kidney problems, I find the reports of him that have been documented from 1998 to be much more credible. But see, you'll ask "how do you know that is credible? Where you there?" which does absolutely nothing but create another cycle of redundant questioning.

im not saying youre wrong, im just saying its ignorant to act like youre right. you dont know.
Phil, you obviously don't understand what you're being told and have no premise.

and i dont sweep anything under the rug.
Yes you do and you've implied it in this thread. Moreover, when you take something as a garin of salt, that simply doesn't mean you aren't placing value in it's merits.

not alex jones. not anything. i read and absorb everything with a grain of salt. but one thing i don't do is say how corrupt the media is and rail about how the govt controls them but then use them for sources when its convenient.
Who is doing this? Phil, I listed that because you have a HISTORY of saying someone is a "tin-foiler" a "conspiracy theorist" etc, so the best thing for you, when it comes to sources, is to provide something that is contrary to what you rail against. So what you were given, was information from the horses mouth, yet if you had R-E-A-D the links, you would see one of them links or cites a source that is NOT from MSM.

So if you read and absorb everything with a grain of salt (something I find laughable based on your line of questioning and "logic") why are you even replying? Nothing I say is ever going to prove anything to you, nothing I post (regardless of where it comes from) will sway you or force you to open your eyes. Why? Because you're hell bent on refusing to accept anything and would rather cling to a perverted interpretation of nihilism.

those links you gave me dont contain near as many facts as speculation or 2nd hand commentary.
Translation: Heresy, I haven't read any of the links you gave me, but I'll say I did so I can keep the whells-of-insanity" turning.

theres no evidence to back up a lot of shit being said.
Phil, there is no evidence to back up what the government is saying. That is what you meant to type. There is no evidence to back up what you said about Bhutto. That is what you forgot to type.

Have the floor because I'm not going to spend any more time with you on this. On one hand you're open to whatever, on the other hand you take things with a grain of salt and cling to nihilism.

Pointless.
 

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they said that if al queda killed a us soldier...lets say pat tillman for example...and then released a pic of him with his brains blown out and shit, americans would be hella furious and find it disrespectful. so supposedly theyre just trying not necessarily to be respectful, but just avoiding getting islamist fundamentalist all riled up and dumping fuel on the fire

if obama says no it means no. HE'S THE HEAD OF THE MUTHAFUCKIN STATE NUKKAH!! WHAT THE FUCK YOU THANKIN NUKKAH?!?
Fam, think about this for a minute. We've bombed muslim countries. We've killed Muslim leaders. We've desecrated their holy book. We've taken pictures of naked Muslims with chains wrapped around their necks. We've killed innocent Muslim civilians time and time again.

We don't give a shit about riling up Muslims or Islamic fundies.
 

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Phil, you can't blame me if your cognitive skills are a bit sketchy. I've answered your questions and tell you to "see above" because I don't want to keep addressing something I've addressed. And since we're on the topic of me still not answering your question (something unfounded), you've yet to provide ANYTHING about your claims referring to Bhutto and Osama being alive.



I have told you. I told you to do your own reading and read about who the lady was before you actually comment on her. What you want me to do, which I'm not going to, is to go into a long list of cognitive biases and explain the shit.



Can you verify that it he didn't? Phil can you verify that you can see the sun from the moon? Can you verufy that right now I'm typing to you? You aren't using logic Phil. What you're using is an underhanded tactic known as bottle-spinning. No Phil, I wasn't there and no Phil I don't take the CIA's take on him having kidney problems, I find the reports of him (that have been documented) from 1998 to be much more credible. But see, you'll ask "how do you know that is credible? Where you there?" which does absolutely nothing but create another cycle of redundant questioning.



Phil, you obviously don't understand what you're being told and have no premise.



Yes you do and you've implied it in this thread.



Who is doing this? Phil, I listed that because you have a HISTORY of saying someone is a "tin-foiler" a "conspiracy theorist" etc, so the best thing for you, when it comes to sources, is to provide something that is contrary to what you rail against. So what you were given, was information from the horses mouth, yet if you had R-E-A-D the links, you would see one of them links or cites a source that is NOT from MSM.

So if you read and absorb everything with a grain of salt (something I find laughable based on your line of questioning and "logic") why are you even replying? Nothing I say is ever going to prove anything to you, nothing I post (regardless of where it comes from) will allow sway you or force you to open your eyes. Why? Because you're hell bent on refusing to accept anything and would rather cling to a perverted interpretation of nihilism.



Translation: Heresy, I haven't read any of the links you gave me, but I'll say I did so I can keep the whells-of-insanity" turning.



Phil, there is no evidence to back up what the government is saying. That is what you meant to type. There is no evidence to back up what you said about Bhutto. That is what you forgot to type.

Have the floor because I'm not going to spin any more time with you on this. On one hand you're open to whatever, on the other hand you take things with a grain of salt and cling to nihilism.

Pointless.
thats the problem. you keep telling me to read up on her but what should i read? enlighten me. thats the problem. im telling you theres nothing truly credible out there but you claim there is. point me to some legit propaganda free info on bhutto. i REALLY want to know.

Ive used the words tinfoiler before but that doesnt mean i disagree with all conspiracy theories. I just dont think everything that happens on the planet is some giant new world order jedi mind trick. Some shit JUST HAPPENS and IS WHAT IT IS.
 

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thats the problem. you keep telling me to read up on her but what should i read? enlighten me. thats the problem. im telling you theres nothing truly credible out there but you claim there is. point me to some legit propaganda free info on bhutto. i REALLY want to know.

Ive used the words tinfoiler before but that doesnt mean i disagree with all conspiracy theories. I just dont think everything that happens on the planet is some giant new world order jedi mind trick. Some shit JUST HAPPENS and IS WHAT IT IS.
Thanks for once again proving my point.

Have the floor because I'm not going to spend any more time with you on this. On one hand you're open to whatever, on the other hand you take things with a grain of salt and cling to nihilism.

Pointless.
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In the interest of the U.S.'s image abroad- I think they figure it's safer if the pics get 'leaked' so that the US gov & President's perceived responsibility for putting it out won't be viewed as significant when there's a backlash... I think they'll be out within a month or two...