bin Laden is dead!!!!!
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Fam, if our foreign policy instigated the shit why should he be held responsible? How can I, as a man, say "this guy deserves to die" or "that person deserves to die" when I clearly understand that they are fighting for what they believe and fighting in defense. So how can I pass judgement on the guy and give him the death sentence when he hasn't done anything to me and is simply trying to protect his land?
The first interview after 9/11 he said he didn't have a hand in it. However, later on they started popping up with all these audio and video tapes with different Bin Ladens.
What american has he killed? I don't give a shit about him killing the Russians when he was at war with them, what united states soldiers (or civilians) did he kill?
People throughout the world...think about that for a second, fam.
What american has he killed? I don't give a shit about him killing the Russians when he was at war with them, what united states soldiers (or civilians) did he kill?
People throughout the world...think about that for a second, fam.
I said this in another post but I think Bin Laden could've totally be fabricated as far as the terrorism talk and all that. BUT, if he had any hand in Al Qaeda, much less being the leader, that has cost the U.S. thousands of troops. I'm actually more concerned about that than the 9/11 thing even though the 9/11 attacks affected my personal life way more.
cuz fam.. 2 wrongs dont make right
he took credit for orchestrating an attack that killed peoples sons, daughters, fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, etc.
ppl to this day who had nothing to do with the political maneuvers of our govt. lost loved ones and still suffer from severe trauma bc of what he took part in planning.
i understand theres a logic behind his hate, and much of it perhaps justified, but dont you think the way he went about it was a bit wrong? a bit cruel and heartless to plan the death of a bunch of civilians to make a symbolic political message?
i dont know about you but if some powerful elites pissed me off i wouldnt have it in me to just kill a bunch of civilians to send a symbolic message at those elites.
trust me. i take no offense to criticism at the american govt. the govt. is shady and evil as they come. and their role in this isnt excusable either. like i said, i dont feel good that bin ladens been killed. its just perpetuating this senseless violence because of struggles over power and ideologies.
but osama was not a good man. just another elite part of the game. and it sounds like your justifying his role in the 9/11 attacks which i cant agree with
he took credit for orchestrating an attack that killed peoples sons, daughters, fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, etc.
ppl to this day who had nothing to do with the political maneuvers of our govt. lost loved ones and still suffer from severe trauma bc of what he took part in planning.
i understand theres a logic behind his hate, and much of it perhaps justified, but dont you think the way he went about it was a bit wrong? a bit cruel and heartless to plan the death of a bunch of civilians to make a symbolic political message?
i dont know about you but if some powerful elites pissed me off i wouldnt have it in me to just kill a bunch of civilians to send a symbolic message at those elites.
trust me. i take no offense to criticism at the american govt. the govt. is shady and evil as they come. and their role in this isnt excusable either. like i said, i dont feel good that bin ladens been killed. its just perpetuating this senseless violence because of struggles over power and ideologies.
but osama was not a good man. just another elite part of the game. and it sounds like your justifying his role in the 9/11 attacks which i cant agree with
I guess you are right....
The Al-Qaidah group had nothing to do with the 11 September attacks on the USA, according to Usama bin Ladin in an interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat. Usama bin Ladin went on to suggest that Jews or US secret services were behind the attacks, and to express gratitude and support for Pakistan, urging Pakistan’s people to jihad against the West. The following is the text of an interview conducted by a "special correspondent", published in the Pakistani newspaper Ummat on 28 September, place and date of interview not given.
I can honestly say I do not know, but I would not be surprised if he did kill or had a part in the death of an American. It doesn't matter either way for me.
And to those people, be they wrong or right, I still think the initial quote I quoted applies:
"Joyfully celebrating the killing of a killer who joyfully celebrated killing carries an irony that I hope will not be lost on us. Are we learning anything, or simply spinning harder in the cycle of violence?" ~ © Brian McLaren.
The Al-Qaidah group had nothing to do with the 11 September attacks on the USA, according to Usama bin Ladin in an interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat. Usama bin Ladin went on to suggest that Jews or US secret services were behind the attacks, and to express gratitude and support for Pakistan, urging Pakistan’s people to jihad against the West. The following is the text of an interview conducted by a "special correspondent", published in the Pakistani newspaper Ummat on 28 September, place and date of interview not given.
I can honestly say I do not know, but I would not be surprised if he did kill or had a part in the death of an American. It doesn't matter either way for me.
And to those people, be they wrong or right, I still think the initial quote I quoted applies:
"Joyfully celebrating the killing of a killer who joyfully celebrated killing carries an irony that I hope will not be lost on us. Are we learning anything, or simply spinning harder in the cycle of violence?" ~ © Brian McLaren.
When did he take credit for it?
http://articles.cnn.com/2001-09-16/...-supreme-leader-mullah-mohammed-omar?_s=PM:US
Now if you don't want that, go directly to the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS website and read what they say. Guess what? It's the same thing! He constantly denied having anything to do with the attacks.
http://www.cfr.org/terrorism/bin-laden-statements-1994-2004/p17243?breadcrumb=/issue/135/terrorism
So who exactly has this guy killed or what killings did he orchestrate?
Who told you he took part in the planning? I just gave you something from cnn and the CFR website (and the stuff from the CFR website was for "official use only".) People are saying he did this and he did that, but where is the evidence that he did anything? Surely if he is a sociopath like many are making him out to be, he would take credit because it's his "work." Instead, you get the guy denying he had anything to do with it, Bush saying "He's lying he had something to do with it" and tons of fake audio and video clips with multiple Bin Ladens.
Come on man...
The way he went about what? What are you people claiming he did?
When did such a thing ever happen? When did he kill a bunch of civilians?
You'll have more violence now, count on it.
What exactly was his "role" in the 9/11 attacks? I'm saying he NEVER had a hand in the attacks and have taken this stance since the attacks first happened. You on the other hand are believing the reports and stories of a group of people you say are corrupt, shady, evil, etc.
http://articles.cnn.com/2001-09-16/...-supreme-leader-mullah-mohammed-omar?_s=PM:US
Now if you don't want that, go directly to the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS website and read what they say. Guess what? It's the same thing! He constantly denied having anything to do with the attacks.
http://www.cfr.org/terrorism/bin-laden-statements-1994-2004/p17243?breadcrumb=/issue/135/terrorism
So who exactly has this guy killed or what killings did he orchestrate?
Who told you he took part in the planning? I just gave you something from cnn and the CFR website (and the stuff from the CFR website was for "official use only".) People are saying he did this and he did that, but where is the evidence that he did anything? Surely if he is a sociopath like many are making him out to be, he would take credit because it's his "work." Instead, you get the guy denying he had anything to do with it, Bush saying "He's lying he had something to do with it" and tons of fake audio and video clips with multiple Bin Ladens.
Come on man...
The way he went about what? What are you people claiming he did?
When did such a thing ever happen? When did he kill a bunch of civilians?
You'll have more violence now, count on it.
What exactly was his "role" in the 9/11 attacks? I'm saying he NEVER had a hand in the attacks and have taken this stance since the attacks first happened. You on the other hand are believing the reports and stories of a group of people you say are corrupt, shady, evil, etc.