Bill o'reilly attacks 9/11 family member

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May 8, 2002
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miggidy said:
I can't believe an ignorant and arrogant asshole like O'reilly has his own show.
Man I wish I could appear on his show....
but you know what if you watch his show enough you will find out he is non-partisan. he doesnt care if you are a Rep or a Dem if you are doing something wrong he will challenge you. in the past month he has fired shots at both Newt Gingrich and John Ashcroft.

so it is hard to say anything other than he is fair in who he attacks
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
the guy was even against the bombing of the Taliban and Al-Quida. therefore in my opinion he is an ANTI- AMERICAN!!!!!
Snubnoze said:
How do you figure? You make claims but NEVER back them up...
BECAUSE HE SAID SO THE FIRST TIME HE CAME OUT ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR A LITTLE AFTER 9-11, and he also said so in this interview. thats how i figure. did any of you guys know that this is the second time that guys was on the "Factor".
 
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HERESY said:
I CONSIDER BUSH TO BE ANTI AMERICAN.
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that alone tells me you are close minded on this topic

HERESY said:
MCLEANHATCH WAS THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT EVER INVOLVED IN THE TRAINING AND FUNDING OF THE TALIBAN AND AL-QUIDA
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funding yes for Taliban. thankz to the lobbying of Senator Patty Murray of Wahington State. and to all the bleeding heart liberals who want to support the world. to be more precise the US Government sent 40 million dollars to the Taliban in either february of march of 2001 right after bush took office. the money was for a poor country like we give to many others.

HERESY said:
WHY DID THE MAN DESERVE SUCH UNFAIR TREATMENT? IN YOUR EYES ONE IS ANTI AMERICAN BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO GO ALONG WITH THE WAR?:h:
no, in my eyes a person is anti american if your main purpose is to overthrow the American government or to see America suffer or be defeated. or any other treacherous acts.

HERESY said:
MCLEANHATCH DID MEMBERS OF THE BIN LADEN FAMILY INVEST IN ARBUSTO ENERGY ( BUSH OWNED COMPANY)? A YES OR NO WILL SUFFICE.:h:
i dont know about people (bush) personal investments. maybe they did, maybe they didnt. i dont know and i wont speak on it becaus i dont know.

what i do know is that the Bin Laden family has publicly disowned Osama Bin Laden.

HERESY said:
MCLEANHATCH DID A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY CONSTANTLY FLOW THROUGH THE HANDS OF THE BUSH AND BIN LADEN FAMILY ACCOUNTS (VIA THE CARLYLE CORP) JUST BEFORE 9-11? A YES OR NO WILL SUFFICE.:h:
dont know. but i would imagine that if they were investing together as you have insinuated with your questions. that there probly was money change just before 9-11 for i know monet could be changing between them every couple of days if they were in some way working together in the oil industry right.

HERESY said:
MCLEANHATCH HAS AMERICA PRESENTED *ANY* EVIDENCE THAT SHOWS THAT WITHOUT A DOUBT OSAMA AND THE TALIBAN COMMITED THE 9-11 ATTACKS? A YES OR NO WILL SUFFICE.
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i cant say that i can recall any solid proof. but their is solid proof that Al-Quida was behind the American Embassy bombings in Tanzania, Africa. and that they were behind the bombing of the USS Cole.

now that i have (i think) answered your questions. let me ask you one.

do you think that America is lying and that Osama Bin Laden wasnt behind the 9-11 attack??????
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
the guy was even against the bombing of the Taliban and Al-Quida. therefore in my opinion he is an ANTI-AMERICAN!!!!!
So are you saying that it is AMERICAN to be for bombing the Taliban? The sad thing about this is that Mclean is right. America's been FOR bombing the opposition from the get-go. I guess this means I'm anti-American to you? Anyway, does this mean that not agreeing with the majority of Americans makes someone anti-? I guess southern slave owners were being true Americans? And those who put Japanese in camps (when there has never been ONE shred of evidence of spying on any Japanese's part) during WWII were being good Americans?

"I mean if Japan bombs us we gotta get as many Japanese as we can..... even "American" citizens. Therefore, since some terrorists slammed into the WTC we gotta get as many ______ as we can."

The thing is you can't fill in the blank can you? You're using the Taliban/al-qaeda like you KNOW they did it.
 
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disagreeing with mainstream sentiment socially does make you an outsider in america. look at how the media bashes the protestors. anti-social sentiment however doesnt make you anti-american.
 
May 8, 2002
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M.O.B. Boss said:
So are you saying that it is AMERICAN to be for bombing the Taliban? The sad thing about this is that Mclean is right. America's been FOR bombing the opposition from the get-go. I guess this means I'm anti-American to you? Anyway, does this mean that not agreeing with the majority of Americans makes someone anti.
no, you can be against the bombing and still be a proud american but when you stand against the government on everything, would rather blame America over Sadam hussien, rather blame george bush over Osama Bin Laden. want to overthrow the government. wont admit to our system being amoung the best if not the best system/country in the world.

to me that is an anti american. i dont know much about you, you havent expressed many opinions here. so dont take this personally this is just a general statement of what an anti-american is.
 
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XianeX said:
disagreeing with mainstream sentiment socially does make you an outsider in america. anti-social sentiment however doesnt make you anti-american.
true

XianeX said:
look at how the media bashes the protestors.
i dont think that they are treating the protestors really badly. but what many media outlets are concentrating on are the backers associated with the protests. many of the backers ARE anti-americans (A.N.S.W.E.R. and WWP) which are communists organizations that want the desruction of America as we know it. and that in my opinion is why the ptotestors are not taken seriously.

i mean just read the article that i posted last night by Michael Lerner he is an ultra liberal who is against the war. yet because he spoke out against A.N.S.W.E.R he has been banned from all events
 
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BECAUSE HE SAID SO THE FIRST TIME HE CAME OUT ON THE O'REILLY FACTOR A LITTLE AFTER 9-11, and he also said so in this interview. thats how i figure. did any of you guys know that this is the second time that guys was on the "Factor".
I was asking HOW DOES THAT EQUATE TO ANTI-AMERICAN, not whether or not he said it....

now please answer:
1.HOW is he anti american?
2.HOW was he out of line?
3.WHY did he deserve it?
4.DID he make any false claims?
 
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Snubnoze said:
now please answer:
1.HOW is he anti american?
2.HOW was he out of line?
3.WHY did he deserve it?
4.DID he make any false claims?
all those questions i have already answered in previous posts. its just that when you dont like the answers that i give you guys, you guys turn around and say i didnt answer the question.

now let me give you my OPINION to all 4 of your questions since all of the questions are obviously subjective. and my answer is that he fits MY profile and many others of what a typical ANTI-AMERICAN is.
 
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know that SOON O'Riely will reap the fruit of the seeds of discord that he has sown.

his mouth is moments away from sealing his fate. those of you that believe the bible believe that a proud man stands before a fall. he has a LONG way down. and the many that hes stepped on will be the ones he'll seek requital from. mark my words. many of the facets of his view of the mainstream world are antiquated and are dying with the older generation. the future, the generation that was raised with hip hop and the sensitivity to the plight of diverse cultures will be they that will shut the likes of him and his way of thinkin out of the anals of history. he will go down as an anathema of and in society.

he is a man and is not "clean" when his dirt is uncovered he will fall
 

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the generation that was raised with hip hop and the sensitivity to the plight of diverse cultures will be they that will shut the likes of him and his way of thinkin out of the anals of history. he will go down as an anathema of and in society.
actually they will grow up and see this world how it really is.

didnt winston churchill say something to the effect of "if youre not a socialist at the age of 20, you have no heart, and if youre not a conservative at the age of 40 youre an idiot"

it was something to that effect.

if what youre saying is true then why didnt the hippie generation have the same effect? those people grew up and formed their own opinions.
 
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"own opinions" wtf do you know about having your own opinions, the only opinions you have are the ones fed to you...

@mclean, I can see you don't with to EXPLAIN your stances, you'd rather just make a claim. its easy to do so. I'm just gonna give up on you cuz obviously like orielly, YOU DON'T WANT TO DEBATE....
 
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Your claim is that when people get older, they turn concervative.... where is YOUR EVIDENCE backing that? A winston churchill quote? Please...

You also made a claim that hippies grew up to be concervatives, nice claim, but WHERE'S THE PROOF BACKING IT?

You went on to say that we are liberal because our opinions are fed to us.... if that is so, why are the topics we "liberals" are discussing on this forum are NOT being discussed in the media. How many shows have you seen with debates asking questions about bush's possible involvement in 911? NONE... I can continue on with more examples if needed...

On the other hand, your coming on here spewing out fabricated opinons CONSTANTLY, so who exactly is being fed what?
 

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Your claim is that when people get older, they turn concervative.... where is YOUR EVIDENCE backing that? A winston churchill quote? Please...
maybe you didnt get past the 8th grade english lessons but i never claimed a damn thing. re read it and realize how stupid you sound making that assertion

You also made a claim that hippies grew up to be concervatives, nice claim, but WHERE'S THE PROOF BACKING IT?
i never said that either. but you dont see too many of the hippie generation out there protesting today do you? i never said they were conservatives. that english class would have came in handy here as well



You went on to say that we are liberal because our opinions are fed to us
now youre completely making shit up. i give up. you are hopeless.
 
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maybe you didnt get past the 8th grade english lessons but i never claimed a damn thing. re read it and realize how stupid you sound making that assertion
You said "they will grow up" (when you get older) + "and see this world how it really is" and "if youre not a conservative at the age of 40 youre an idiot" (you will be conservative)= when you get older you turn conseravative....

i never said that either.
"why didnt the hippie generation have the same effect? those people grew up and formed their own opinions." + "you dont see too many of the hippie generation out there protesting today do you?" = blatant implications...

now youre completely making shit up. i give up. you are hopeless.
you say that when you grow up you see how the world really is, and then proceed to post the quote about how when you get older you turn concervative, and then "those people grew up and formed their own opinions." so your own opinions would be concervative, and on the otherside, the ones fed to you would be liberal.... and thats withstanding your constant outcries of liberal media in varias threads....

Your implications are aparant, don't try and weasle your way out because I smashed your implications....
 
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do you think hippies look the same way they did in the 60s? hell no. they look like everyday middle aged adults. just a little less groomed
 
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Snubnoze said:
You said "if youre not a conservative at the age of 40 youre an idiot" (you will be conservative)= when you get older you turn conseravative....
he didnt say that. reread the post.

Snubnoze said:
you say that when you grow up you see how the world really is, and then proceed to post the quote about how when you get older you turn concervative, and then "those people grew up and formed their own opinions." so your own opinions would be concervative, and on the otherside, the ones fed to you would be liberal.... and thats withstanding your constant outcries of liberal media in varias threads....
just 1 thing in case you havent figured it out yet Phil is NOT a conservative, he is a Liberatarian. which is on the right yet not quite so conservative. they are definately far from liberals though