Best Joker- Its time to ask.
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Jack. Ledger was ok. Really good even.
But Jack as an actor blew Heath away as far as acting prowess. People are only judging their performance on Heath's script, much better, and the fact that in this day and age you can definitely get away with much more than you could have back then. Dark Knight would have gotten an X rating back in '89. So of course this version of the Joker is more sadistic.
But Jack as an actor blew Heath away as far as acting prowess. People are only judging their performance on Heath's script, much better, and the fact that in this day and age you can definitely get away with much more than you could have back then. Dark Knight would have gotten an X rating back in '89. So of course this version of the Joker is more sadistic.
I agree with what you write on here a lot of them time but you are out of your fuckin' mind with that statement. Like Jake said in the other thread they were two totally different Joker roles but even acting wise Heath blew Jack out of the water as The Joker. When watching Batman it was still "look Jack Nicholson is The Joker" and in Dark Knight I forgot I was watching someone act most of the time when Heath was on the screen as The Joker.
Hell, by the time he played that role Jack was a well seasoned actor while Heath was still labeled an up and comer at the time of his death. So even if he did have better acting prowess (which I don't think he did in his Joker role) that wouldn't have been suprising.
By the way Jack Nicholson is one of my favorite actors ever and this was really the first role I ever liked Heath Ledger in.
Hell, by the time he played that role Jack was a well seasoned actor while Heath was still labeled an up and comer at the time of his death. So even if he did have better acting prowess (which I don't think he did in his Joker role) that wouldn't have been suprising.
By the way Jack Nicholson is one of my favorite actors ever and this was really the first role I ever liked Heath Ledger in.
you dont think those things go hand and hand with your whole "nicholson as joker" theory
EVERYBODY knew who jack was back then,he was a megastar. 75% of the people didnt even know who heath was until he died. lot easier to forgot who somebody is in a role when you didnt know who the hell they were to begin with.
of course jack is going to come through in his parts,he is frickin jack nicholson. thats what makes him the actor he is.
EVERYBODY knew who jack was back then,he was a megastar. 75% of the people didnt even know who heath was until he died. lot easier to forgot who somebody is in a role when you didnt know who the hell they were to begin with.
of course jack is going to come through in his parts,he is frickin jack nicholson. thats what makes him the actor he is.
Theory? What theory? If you get right down to it it is all ones opinion on who is better anyways. Mine is that it was Heath, Mexcom's is it was Jack.
Maybe I shouldn't have said specifics and said with actor A in the old Batman film I still felt like I was watching someone give a performance while with actor B in The Dark Knight I almost totally forgot I was watching someone act as they more or less totally became their character.
Would that take the whole "theory" part away for you?
Also if 75% of Siccness members knew him as "that fag from the fag cowboy movie," which it seems like they did before this movie came out from the posts I read on here, then I would say it is a safe bet that more then 75% of people in general knew who he was outside of a gangster rap message board.
So who did you vote for? What was your opinion?
Maybe I shouldn't have said specifics and said with actor A in the old Batman film I still felt like I was watching someone give a performance while with actor B in The Dark Knight I almost totally forgot I was watching someone act as they more or less totally became their character.
Would that take the whole "theory" part away for you?
Also if 75% of Siccness members knew him as "that fag from the fag cowboy movie," which it seems like they did before this movie came out from the posts I read on here, then I would say it is a safe bet that more then 75% of people in general knew who he was outside of a gangster rap message board.
So who did you vote for? What was your opinion?
i didnt,i dont give shit. its like asking me what i like better,apples or oranges.dont like one more than the other enough to choose
remind me not to use the word theory next time though...
was just inquiring if that might be why you felt that way about jack's performance due to his higher star quality,wasnt trying to argue your opinion or cheapen it in any way
remind me not to use the word theory next time though...
was just inquiring if that might be why you felt that way about jack's performance due to his higher star quality,wasnt trying to argue your opinion or cheapen it in any way
Heath!!
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I don't think Heath made the character...I think this charatcer was born out of a great script for the part and also great directing. I believe others could do just as good if not better in this role with same script and directing. Christian Slater would kill this role, Johnny Depp would kill it, someone like leonardo Dicaprio would kill it. So yes heath did gret but thank the script and directing for that!
BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT
I don't think Heath made the character...I think this charatcer was born out of a great script for the part and also great directing. I believe others could do just as good if not better in this role with same script and directing. Christian Slater would kill this role, Johnny Depp would kill it, someone like leonardo Dicaprio would kill it. So yes heath did gret but thank the script and directing for that!
I agree, although I think Leonardo is a good actor (but thats a little off topic right now). Heath was a great method actor, he had a lot of good movies, and he always nailed them, even before he got the role of Joker.
Heath brought a LOT of shit to the character that wasn't in the script, and that is what made this Joker so great. So that kinda throws the old "he had a better script" theory out the window as far as I'm concerned.
Heath brought a LOT of shit to the character that wasn't in the script, and that is what made this Joker so great. So that kinda throws the old "he had a better script" theory out the window as far as I'm concerned.
