*Best Film(s) of 2013* Nomination Thread
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It was repetitive. Sex drugs sex drugs sex drugs. You'd think for a three hour movie it would get deep, but it never did. Belfort was a disgusting parasite AND a snitch.
Something to think about for those that liked The Wolf of Wall Street:
The film’s uncritical attitude can be gauged by its failure to include any details of the misery Stratton Oakmont’s activities caused, in the form of life savings wiped out, psychological distress and even stress-related illness.
Christina McDowell, the daughter of one of Belfort’s associates, in an open letter to the makers of The Wolf of Wall Street published last week, commented: “You people are dangerous. Your film is a reckless attempt at continuing to pretend that these sorts of schemes are entertaining, even as the country is reeling from yet another round of Wall Street scandals. We want to get lost in what? These phony financiers’ fun sexcapades and coke binges? Come on, we know the truth. This kind of behavior brought America to its knees.”
Something to think about for those that liked The Wolf of Wall Street:
The film’s uncritical attitude can be gauged by its failure to include any details of the misery Stratton Oakmont’s activities caused, in the form of life savings wiped out, psychological distress and even stress-related illness.
Christina McDowell, the daughter of one of Belfort’s associates, in an open letter to the makers of The Wolf of Wall Street published last week, commented: “You people are dangerous. Your film is a reckless attempt at continuing to pretend that these sorts of schemes are entertaining, even as the country is reeling from yet another round of Wall Street scandals. We want to get lost in what? These phony financiers’ fun sexcapades and coke binges? Come on, we know the truth. This kind of behavior brought America to its knees.”
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well Wolf wasnt a story about that, its based on Belfort's memoir, telling HIS story. the reason it didnt show any of the people that were affected, was because Jordan never saw them,he didn't know any of them, he didnt care about them or anyone else, that's what the movie was pointing out. just like when he's narrating, and starts to explain something, he stops and says stuff like "you don't even know what I'm saying, point is we made a lot of money"
Which may be a valid point if the movie was based soley on Belforts book but it wasn't, it was an adaptation, it had Martin Scorsese's hands and ideas all over the film. For example::: spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler::::: at the end of the film he shows the FBI agent taking a bus or train home from work, sitting next to bums and trash, looking depressed. What is Martin Scorsese saying with that specific scene, why did he deliberately choose to have such a scene? We know what he's getting at.
In the hilarious Quaaludes scene, at the end of that madness he gets a DWI, he hit a few cars no big deal, but in reality Belfort seriously injured a woman in that car ride home. Scorcese spends 90% of 3 hours about the rise, the parties the sex the drugs and hardly any time about the fall.
And of course we should ask why would Martin Scorsese and Hollywood even comsider making such a huge film and glamorize the lifestyle of such a sick parasite of America who destroyed the financial lives of thousands of people in the first place? But of course this is Scorsese, his entire lifes work are movies without morality.
In the hilarious Quaaludes scene, at the end of that madness he gets a DWI, he hit a few cars no big deal, but in reality Belfort seriously injured a woman in that car ride home. Scorcese spends 90% of 3 hours about the rise, the parties the sex the drugs and hardly any time about the fall.
And of course we should ask why would Martin Scorsese and Hollywood even comsider making such a huge film and glamorize the lifestyle of such a sick parasite of America who destroyed the financial lives of thousands of people in the first place? But of course this is Scorsese, his entire lifes work are movies without morality.
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I left Wolf of Wall Street thinking all those people were terrible people. I didn't need any heavy handedness of showing the repercussions of what Belfort did. I think people are having a hard time with this subject being turned into a cool crime film because there's still people out there who lost jobs and homes because of shady business men like Belfort, as opposed to Italian mob films where most people can't relate to being extorted by the mob. But to me they're all people with no morals when it comes to making money and this was an interesting and entertaining take on the genre
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At least with Goodfellas and the likes all the characters ended up dead or in jail.
Anyways, it's the same Scorsese. Goodfellas was a better version of mean streats. Casino is Goodfellas meets Las Vegas. Departed is Goodfellas in Boston. The Wolf is Goodfellas in Wall Street.
It's always the same excuse for Scorsese. He's showing bad people do bad things, it's not his job to dive any further. 30 years of the same shit. As an artist it should be his job to explore further. You'd think at some point he would want to get deeper but he's regressed. I don't see the brilliance of this film that so many talk about. It's a giant orgy of indulgence.
Anyways, it's the same Scorsese. Goodfellas was a better version of mean streats. Casino is Goodfellas meets Las Vegas. Departed is Goodfellas in Boston. The Wolf is Goodfellas in Wall Street.
It's always the same excuse for Scorsese. He's showing bad people do bad things, it's not his job to dive any further. 30 years of the same shit. As an artist it should be his job to explore further. You'd think at some point he would want to get deeper but he's regressed. I don't see the brilliance of this film that so many talk about. It's a giant orgy of indulgence.
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Thanks for the spoiler alert 2-0, I was definitely going to read something I didn't want to if you forgot to say that.
I think that Scorcese obviously hit a home run with Goodfellas, but I thought Casino was different enough to stand on its own. I also think that The Departed was one of the best movies I've ever seen and maybe better than Goodfellas and in 30 years, other people might agree too. The Departed was an all around excellent film that had just about everything you could ask for in a film.
I think that Scorcese obviously hit a home run with Goodfellas, but I thought Casino was different enough to stand on its own. I also think that The Departed was one of the best movies I've ever seen and maybe better than Goodfellas and in 30 years, other people might agree too. The Departed was an all around excellent film that had just about everything you could ask for in a film.
"Her" should get a mention. Definitely not a siccness type film but I thought it was brilliant. Directed by Spike Jonze, same guy who directed Where the wild things are and Adaptation. It's a sci-fi drama set in the not to distant future where a loner falls in love with his artificially intelligent OS that is capable of evolving, learning, etc.
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