BARRY BONDS

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Nitro the Guru said:
How is A-Rod better than Barry? You guys can say it pretty easily, but can you show for it?
A ROD IS A 5 TOOL PLAYER
1. EXCELLENT HITTER FOR AVERAGE
2. EXCELLENT HITTER FOR POWER
3. EXCELLENT DEFENSE
4. EXCELLENT ARM
5. EXCELLENT SPEED

BONDS WAS A 4 TOOL PLAYER WHEN HE WAS YOUNG AND NOW HE IS A 3 TOOL PLAYER

BACK WHEN HE WAS YOUNG:
1. EXCELLENT HITTER FOR AVERAGE
2. EXCELLENT SPEED
3. GOOD HITTER FOR POWER
4. GOOD DEFENSE
AVERAGE ARM

NOW:
1. EXCELLENT HITTER FOR AVERAGE
2. EXCELLENT HITTER FOR POWER
3. EXCELLENT SPEED
AVERAGE DEFENSE
NOT SO GOOD ARM
 
May 29, 2002
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I cant even read this cause most of you know nothing about the game of baseball, whether it be history or fundamentals. they say baseball is a thinking mans game and most of you guys cant think right
 
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Nitro the Guru said:
How is A-Rod better than Barry? You guys can say it pretty easily, but can you show for it?
HERE ARE THERE NUMBERS BOTH AT THE AGE OF 28 WHICH IS A-RODS AGE RIGHT NOW.

BONDS---GAMES (1010), AT BATS (3584), RUNS (672), HITS (984), 2B's (220), HR's (176), RBI's (556), AVERAGE (.274)

A-ROD---GAMES (1275), AT BATS (4989), RUNS (1009), HITS (1535), 2B's (285), HR's (345), RBI's (990), AVERAGE (.308)

THESE ARE THE NUMBERS FOR THE 2 PLAYERS AT THE AGE OF 28. NOW TELL ME WHO IS THE BETTER OF THE TWO??

AND THIS IS JUST OFFENSE, THIS DOESNT CONSIDER DEFENSE IN WHICH A-ROD WOULD BLOW BONDS OUT OF THE WATER
 
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LiuKang9mm said:
alright lets breakdown the stats.
barry was third in average while a-rod was 42nd!!!

Alright Alex had 47 HRs and Barry had 45,

barry would have killed him if he didn't have 148 walks! A-rod had 87.

Barry had 58 strikeouts and A-rod had....126?

Barry had 390 At Bats and A-rod had 607
HERE ARE SOME MORE STATS FROM ESPN.COM LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS AND THEN TRY AND TELL ME THAT BONDS IS BETTER THAN A-ROD

Mcleanhatch said:
HERE ARE THERE NUMBERS BOTH AT THE AGE OF 28 WHICH IS A-RODS AGE RIGHT NOW.

BONDS---GAMES (1010), AT BATS (3584), RUNS (672), HITS (984), 2B's (220), HR's (176), RBI's (556), AVERAGE (.274)

A-ROD---GAMES (1275), AT BATS (4989), RUNS (1009), HITS (1535), 2B's (285), HR's (345), RBI's (990), AVERAGE (.308)

THESE ARE THE NUMBERS FOR THE 2 PLAYERS AT THE AGE OF 28. NOW TELL ME WHO IS THE BETTER OF THE TWO??

AND THIS IS JUST OFFENSE, THIS DOESNT CONSIDER DEFENSE IN WHICH A-ROD WOULD BLOW BONDS OUT OF THE WATER
 
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unless a-rod has the longevity he wont touch bonds period.

thats fact. dude could slip walking out the door tommarow and never play again.


bonds was good when he was younger. now he's great. also how many gold gloves does bonds have and how many does alex have???? thats what i thought.


you cant even put a-rod in the same league as bonds since he is only 28 years old. you can say he has the ability to reach and pass bonds records.


but odds are he wont. look at griffy.


and yea the stats from last year show that a-rod's great year aint shit compaired to bonds. dude had half as many at bats and still smashed on a-rod.
 
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proppa said:
unless a-rod has the longevity he wont touch bonds period.

thats fact. dude could slip walking out the door tommarow and never play again.
true

proppa said:
bonds was good when he was younger. now he's great.
true

proppa said:
also how many gold gloves does bonds have and how many does alex have???? thats what i thought.
i dont know, but remember that there are 3 GG for outfielders each year while there is only 1 GG for the shortstop, and also there is a difference between catching fly balls and fielding groundballs that are coming at you 100 mph.

proppa said:
you cant even put a-rod in the same league as bonds since he is only 28 years old.
true, but by showing you both of their numbers at the age of 28 i can show you the difference in the productivity of the 2 players at that exact same point in time in their careers.

proppa said:
you can say he has the ability to reach and pass bonds records.
thats what i am saying, i am also saying that at this point in his career that A-Rod is a way better player than bonds was at the same point in his career, although many other including my self would argue that A-Rod is a better player than bonds period.

proppa said:
but odds are he wont. look at griffy.
true, griffey was also at an astronomical pace, just as Ted Willaims was before he left the game voluntarily to fight in WWII and Korea.

proppa said:
and yea the stats from last year show that a-rod's great year aint shit compaired to bonds. dude had half as many at bats and still smashed on a-rod.
this year a-rod had an average year
 

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Yo Mclean stop shitting on these midgets fans!! A-Rod is easily a better player than Bonds and he dont need steoroids to prove it!! Hahahah!! GOT EM!!!
 

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B-Buzz said:
If A-Rod goes to Boston his #'s are gonna drop a bit, Bonds is still a better player
I disagree,and I see no logic in your post.He may lose some of his RBI total,but Fenway has a short porch in left,and left center.The Green Monster is'nt a monster at all.It's 30' tall,but is a stones throw away.Plus,A-Rod would'nt be seeing the A's and Mariners (Anaheim to)staff much anymore(The West's pitching is superior to the East's).Facing Baltimore,Toronto,and Tampa,he will see weaker pitching alot more through-out the year,and his slugging and average will sky-rocket,and people will have to pitch to him in Boston.

I disagree with Hatch to.I don't think Bonds was ever an excellent fielder.I think he was highly overated,and like most gold glove winners,won his award based on popularity(offensive statistics).

B*rry B*nds can hit though,but the roids will tarnish his records.
 
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Quick said:
NO I DONT THINK THAT HE WILL...... HE'S A GREAT PLAYER BUT NOT BETTER THEN BONDS.....



IF......DONT MAKE THINGS UP... REALITY IS..... HES NOT HEALTHY AND HE'S NOT BETTER THEN BONDS......PLAY ALL THE WHAT IF GAMES THAT YOU WANT.........



SO BY SAYING THAT BONDS IS BETTER THEN A-ROD AND IF GRIFFEY WAS HEALTHY....... I DONT KNOW BASEBALL, NICE TRY........



THE GIANTS WERE IN THE 89 WORLD SERIES.......... THEY WERE IN THE 2001 WORLD SERIES........ THE A'S WERE IN THE 1990 ONE.....THEY WON BUT YOUR NOT MAKING MUCH SENSE ON CONSISTENCEY......THE A'S HAVE ONLY BEEN A GOOD TEAM FOR THE LATER PART OF THE 90S-EARLY 00S........



IN 89 IN THE WORLD SERIES......... WHERE WERE THE A'S IN 2001????



LIVE IN THE PAST...... YES THE GIANTS NEVER WON.....WILL THAT MAKE UR DREAMS BETTER..... BUT WE'RE HERE TODAY...... SO FOR THE UPCOMING SEASON.......WHO EILL BE BETTER...... SORRY KID THE GIANTS........



LIVING IN THE A'S SHADOW........ PLEASE......THEY NEVER HAVE AND THEY NEVER WILL...... THE BAY AREA TEAM IS AND WILL BE THE GIANTS.........



WHAT HAVE THE GIANTS DONE FOR THE BAY???? THEY GOT IF NOT THE BEST ONE OF THE BEST BALLPARKS IN THE LEAGUE....... AND ARENT THE A'S BEEN RUMORED TO MOVE......... DONT SPEAK ON WHOS DONE WHAT FOR THE BAY.........



GOOD FOR THE A'S.........

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! ^^^^^^^

Do you know how foolish you've just made yourself look?????

Don't live in the past???? Son, at least we HAVE A past.
Listen, 18 year old kid, do you REALLY wanna mention the Giants being in the 89 world series? Um, You were 4 years old, so let me remind you-the OAKLAND ATHLETICS were in it TOO and not only that but the OAKLAND ATHLETICS SWEPT your team in THAT world series. The Giants still have the broom stuck in thier ass from that world series sweep. But I guess you already knew that since you were 4 years old, right kid?

And then you mention the A's winning the 90 world series, actually, if you DID know baseball, you'd know that tha A's LOST that world series. Another thing, The ATHLETICS franchise has MORE division titles, pennants and World Series championships than not only the Giants franchise, but EVERY team in baseball, except the Yankees-so what do you mean, the A's have only been good in the 90's and early 2000's???? The A's WON back-to-back-to-back WORLD SERIES in 72, 73 and 74 AND went back-to-back-to-back in 88, 89, and 90. So I don't know what the hell you're talkin about and I doubt you know what you're talkin about either. Don't get mad and post untrue nonsense just because I'm stating actual FACTS.

You're tellin me that I'm livin in the past and that I'm assuming that Griffey would've been better, yet you claim that the Giants will be better next season? Did you look into your crystal ball for that one? HAHAHA! Please son, don't make me laugh.

The Giants have ALWAYS been in the A's shadow because they've NEVER WON a world series, but the A's have FOUR in OAKLAND! How is that NOT in their shadow?????


When I asked you what the Giants have done for the Bay, you answered that the Giants have one of the best, if not the best ballparks in the majors. WHAT THE FUCK????? What does a ballpark have to do with WINNING and bringing CHAMPIONSHIPS to the BAY AREA???? Get a fuckin clue kid. Real talk. Listen, the Giants could play in the fuckin White House for all anyone cares, that STILL doesn't win you championships!


Don't speak on who's done what for the Bay???? Again, kid, get a fuckin clue. No matter what you or any other Giant fan crows about, you will NEVER change the fact that the A's have brought FOUR WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIPS to the Bay Area since they're arrival in 1968 while the Giants have NOTHING but a ballpark to show for themselves.


Look homie, don't even bother replying, you'll just keep making yourself look foolish. But if you ARE gonna talk shit, at least back your shit up with some FACTS.

A's=FOUR world series wins for the BAY (72, 73, 74, 89. Since 1968)

Giants=NOTHING, ZERO, 0, SHIT for the Bay
(since 1958)
But they got a new ballpark! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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B-Buzz said:
If A-Rod goes to Boston his #'s are gonna drop a bit, Bonds is still a better player
if A-Rod goes to Boston as is being rumored his batting average will be way up because alote of routine flyballs will turn into doubles bouncing off of the green monster. as for his HR they will most likely stay the same as both Fenwat and Arlinton are good HR hitters parks.

so i would actually argue that his number will shoot upwarn and not downward as you implied
 
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BAMMER said:
I disagree with Hatch to.I don't think Bonds was ever an excellent fielder.

I think he was highly overated,and like most gold glove winners,won his award based on popularity(offensive statistics).
i know that why i said he was good not excellent.

Mcleanhatch said:
BONDS WAS A 4 TOOL PLAYER WHEN HE WAS YOUNG AND NOW HE IS A 3 TOOL PLAYER

BACK WHEN HE WAS YOUNG:

4. GOOD DEFENSE


NOW:

AVERAGE DEFENSE
 

B-Buzz

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I was referring to A-Rod's rbi's... Center field is a long ways away and he hits a lot of his homers out there... actually now that I think about it, his HRs will prolly stay the same, cuz the monster will give him a few more to left, that'll even it out... disregard my other post

peace