Baron OPTS out?!?!
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Well.. If he's been on the contract for more than three years, you have his bird's rights.. Those have been in affect for a long time...
And the Warriors will sign him or sign and trade him because that's the way Baron can get the most money is through that method. Nobody can give him a six year deal or as much money as the Warriors..
And the Warriors will sign him or sign and trade him because that's the way Baron can get the most money is through that method. Nobody can give him a six year deal or as much money as the Warriors..
part of an article from Tim Kawakami , sports reporter from The Mercury News...
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawaka...davis-or-he-signs-with-another-team-outright/
So let’s say the Warriors play ultra-hard ball with Baron now. I think Mullin will want to keep talking, but hardball is still possible given the way the Warriors dealt with Matt Barnes and Mickael Pietrus last year and given that they may feel slightly hoodwinked by Davis’ opt-out.
Let’s say Mullin tells Davis and Ramasar:
* Either you find us a sign-and-trade deal with one of your other-team contacts that’s good for the Warriors by Monday July 7 (deals can’t be made official until July 9, but they’re almost always agreed-upon before that);
* Or you agree to re-sign with the Warriors for two years and $28M (about what they offered Davis in the last extension talks) by July 7; maybe to spur negotiations, Mullin ups it to two years, $30M;
* Or the Warriors will renounce Baron’s rights on July 7 at 8 a.m. and there goes any sign-and-trade opportunity, there goes the chance to make large money from any team except Memphis or possibly Philly (neither is likely).
Agreeable sign-and-trade, re-sign for the Warriors’ price or get renounced by Monday, July 7. Period.
That would be a risky move by Mullin, Chris Cohan and Bobby Rowell. That would open them up to possible criticism that the franchise is being cheap, has been cheap and will never pay enough to get over the hump.
(I wouldn’t agree on the Baron part. Would agree on the not-using-the-trade-exception part, presuming we don’t get hit with another thunderbolt tomorrow morning.)
But let’s say all that I’ve sketched out happens, and Davis calls the Warriors bluff and they either renounce him or he signs with somebody else, either for the mid-level exception or to an under-the-cap team, perhaps the Clippers if they find a way to manuever Baron’s and Elton Brand’s deals just right.
What would the Warriors’ cap situation look like if Davis was removed entirely? And what if they also renounce Mickael Pietrus (tough one because I’m sure they want to retain his S/T rights), Patrick O’Bryant (not 100%, but probably) and Matt Barnes (yes)?
By my count, they’d have $39.1M on the books, committed to nine players (a 10th, Adonal Foyle, still counts for about $6.2M next season).
That includes No. 1 pick Anthony Randolph and a $7.8M cap hold for restricted free agent Andris Biedrins and $800k cap holds for both RFAs Monta Ellis and Kelenna Azubuike.
$39.1M is about $19M less than the expected 2008-2009 salary cap. That’s $19M to spend for the Warriors, who have always spent at or over the cap number. That’s a lot of money. That might be reduced if the Warriors hold off renouncing Pietrus ($7M cap hold) or POB ($2.4M), just to retain their rights for sign-and-trade possibilities.
But if Baron, Pietrus, Barnes and POB all get renounced, the players on the books would be:
-Al Harrington, $9.2M.
-Stephen Jackson, $7.1M.
-(Adonal Foyle, $6.2M).
-Andris Biedrins, $7.8M cap hold.
-Brandan Wright, $2.5M.
-Kosta Perovic, $1.7M.
-Marco Belinelli, $1.5M.
-Anthony Randolph, $1.5M.
-Monta Ellis, $800k cap hold.
-Kelenna Azubuike, $800k cap hold.
If Pietrus isn’t renounced, the Warriors would be at $46.1M with 10 players on the roster. That’d be about $12M to spend under the cap.
All of this is presuming that the Warriors would hold off on re-signing Ellis before they go shopping for other free agents, because he’ll almost certainly get a deal starting at $7M or $8M and that would eat up more than $6M in cap room.
Summation: After Baron’s opt-out, anything is possible this summer. Really, anything. Good, bad, wild. Anything.
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawaka...davis-or-he-signs-with-another-team-outright/
So let’s say the Warriors play ultra-hard ball with Baron now. I think Mullin will want to keep talking, but hardball is still possible given the way the Warriors dealt with Matt Barnes and Mickael Pietrus last year and given that they may feel slightly hoodwinked by Davis’ opt-out.
Let’s say Mullin tells Davis and Ramasar:
* Either you find us a sign-and-trade deal with one of your other-team contacts that’s good for the Warriors by Monday July 7 (deals can’t be made official until July 9, but they’re almost always agreed-upon before that);
* Or you agree to re-sign with the Warriors for two years and $28M (about what they offered Davis in the last extension talks) by July 7; maybe to spur negotiations, Mullin ups it to two years, $30M;
* Or the Warriors will renounce Baron’s rights on July 7 at 8 a.m. and there goes any sign-and-trade opportunity, there goes the chance to make large money from any team except Memphis or possibly Philly (neither is likely).
Agreeable sign-and-trade, re-sign for the Warriors’ price or get renounced by Monday, July 7. Period.
That would be a risky move by Mullin, Chris Cohan and Bobby Rowell. That would open them up to possible criticism that the franchise is being cheap, has been cheap and will never pay enough to get over the hump.
(I wouldn’t agree on the Baron part. Would agree on the not-using-the-trade-exception part, presuming we don’t get hit with another thunderbolt tomorrow morning.)
But let’s say all that I’ve sketched out happens, and Davis calls the Warriors bluff and they either renounce him or he signs with somebody else, either for the mid-level exception or to an under-the-cap team, perhaps the Clippers if they find a way to manuever Baron’s and Elton Brand’s deals just right.
What would the Warriors’ cap situation look like if Davis was removed entirely? And what if they also renounce Mickael Pietrus (tough one because I’m sure they want to retain his S/T rights), Patrick O’Bryant (not 100%, but probably) and Matt Barnes (yes)?
By my count, they’d have $39.1M on the books, committed to nine players (a 10th, Adonal Foyle, still counts for about $6.2M next season).
That includes No. 1 pick Anthony Randolph and a $7.8M cap hold for restricted free agent Andris Biedrins and $800k cap holds for both RFAs Monta Ellis and Kelenna Azubuike.
$39.1M is about $19M less than the expected 2008-2009 salary cap. That’s $19M to spend for the Warriors, who have always spent at or over the cap number. That’s a lot of money. That might be reduced if the Warriors hold off renouncing Pietrus ($7M cap hold) or POB ($2.4M), just to retain their rights for sign-and-trade possibilities.
But if Baron, Pietrus, Barnes and POB all get renounced, the players on the books would be:
-Al Harrington, $9.2M.
-Stephen Jackson, $7.1M.
-(Adonal Foyle, $6.2M).
-Andris Biedrins, $7.8M cap hold.
-Brandan Wright, $2.5M.
-Kosta Perovic, $1.7M.
-Marco Belinelli, $1.5M.
-Anthony Randolph, $1.5M.
-Monta Ellis, $800k cap hold.
-Kelenna Azubuike, $800k cap hold.
If Pietrus isn’t renounced, the Warriors would be at $46.1M with 10 players on the roster. That’d be about $12M to spend under the cap.
All of this is presuming that the Warriors would hold off on re-signing Ellis before they go shopping for other free agents, because he’ll almost certainly get a deal starting at $7M or $8M and that would eat up more than $6M in cap room.
Summation: After Baron’s opt-out, anything is possible this summer. Really, anything. Good, bad, wild. Anything.
I really dont know what Ellis wants to do but Mullin is willing to resign him at any cost so i dont see him leaving even though that might be a bad thing, he could end up getting way over paid.
* after reading that article i cant believe how much they have to spend. Fuck did they get rid of J-Rich for? I cant believe Foyles pay is still counted against the cap also.
* after reading that article i cant believe how much they have to spend. Fuck did they get rid of J-Rich for? I cant believe Foyles pay is still counted against the cap also.
The Los Angeles Clippers are making a hard run at signing free agent Baron Davis, multiple league sources said late Monday night.
Hours before the midnight deadline, the Golden State Warriors point guard opted out of the $17.8 million owed him in the final season of his six-year contract. Davis could still re-sign with the Warriors, but the possibility of returning to Southern California, where he grew up and played at UCLA, must intrigue him.
Davis’ decision stunned league executives and agents late Monday.
“He has to have some kind of a deal somewhere,” an Eastern Conference general manager said. “You just don’t opt out of that kind of money.”
Davis’ career had been reborn under Don Nelson’s small ball, but acrimony over contract talks have cooled the relationship between the Warriors and him. What’s more, Davis could be facilitating a sign-and-trade between Golden State and Los Angeles, or elsewhere.
The possibility of bringing Davis to the Clippers promises to be a major incentive in re-signing their own free agent, forward Elton Brand.
The Clippers still have a brief window to make a run at Gilbert Arenas, but the Wizards were close to agreeing to a $100 million contract with Arenas, an Eastern Conference executive said early Tuesday. Once Washington re-signed Antawn Jamison for four years, $50 million, Washington officials believed Arenas was falling into line, too.
The Clippers watched two players – Brand and Corey Maggette – opt out on Monday, but Brand has expressed a strong desire to negotiate a new contract with Los Angeles. Finding a way to fit Davis, 29, into the franchise would only make Brand – who left $16.4 million on the table – more eager to stay with the team.
Orlando and New Orleans are possible destinations for Maggette, sources said. Maggette, who scored 22 points a game a year ago, has probably played his last game for the Clippers.
Before Davis opted out, sources said the Clippers were prepared to make a lucrative long-term offer to Sacramento Kings point guard Beno Udrih. Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy is believed to be enamored with Udrih, who blossomed after leaving the long shadow of Tony Parker in San Antonio. Without a Clippers offer, Udrih will probably re-sign with the Kings for the mid-level exception – perhaps at three years, approximately $15.4 million.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...barondavisfreeagent063008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Hours before the midnight deadline, the Golden State Warriors point guard opted out of the $17.8 million owed him in the final season of his six-year contract. Davis could still re-sign with the Warriors, but the possibility of returning to Southern California, where he grew up and played at UCLA, must intrigue him.
Davis’ decision stunned league executives and agents late Monday.
“He has to have some kind of a deal somewhere,” an Eastern Conference general manager said. “You just don’t opt out of that kind of money.”
Davis’ career had been reborn under Don Nelson’s small ball, but acrimony over contract talks have cooled the relationship between the Warriors and him. What’s more, Davis could be facilitating a sign-and-trade between Golden State and Los Angeles, or elsewhere.
The possibility of bringing Davis to the Clippers promises to be a major incentive in re-signing their own free agent, forward Elton Brand.
The Clippers still have a brief window to make a run at Gilbert Arenas, but the Wizards were close to agreeing to a $100 million contract with Arenas, an Eastern Conference executive said early Tuesday. Once Washington re-signed Antawn Jamison for four years, $50 million, Washington officials believed Arenas was falling into line, too.
The Clippers watched two players – Brand and Corey Maggette – opt out on Monday, but Brand has expressed a strong desire to negotiate a new contract with Los Angeles. Finding a way to fit Davis, 29, into the franchise would only make Brand – who left $16.4 million on the table – more eager to stay with the team.
Orlando and New Orleans are possible destinations for Maggette, sources said. Maggette, who scored 22 points a game a year ago, has probably played his last game for the Clippers.
Before Davis opted out, sources said the Clippers were prepared to make a lucrative long-term offer to Sacramento Kings point guard Beno Udrih. Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy is believed to be enamored with Udrih, who blossomed after leaving the long shadow of Tony Parker in San Antonio. Without a Clippers offer, Udrih will probably re-sign with the Kings for the mid-level exception – perhaps at three years, approximately $15.4 million.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...barondavisfreeagent063008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
