At least 100 in Russian school dead

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i think that the American Government is behind this. it is their way of trying to get the world to side with their evil ways again. i think W is gettinbg desparate.
 
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SHEA said:
WEAK REPLY HOMIE-

YOU & I KNOW DAMN GOOD N WELL THIS AINT GOT SHIT TO DO WITH AMERICA OR AMERICANS.


LET THE REVOLUTION IN YOUR MIND GO- NOT GO FREE.


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i am one of biggest pro America, conservative Bush supporters on this website. i posted that first post sarcastically and the only reason i did so was because i am surprised that one of the "real" anti americans on here hadnt already done so.
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
i am one of biggest pro America, conservative Bush supporters on this website. i posted that first post sarcastically and the only reason i did so was because i am surprised that one of the "real" anti americans on here hadnt already done so.
...wow ur a dumbshit. I'm suprised gangsta rap fans like u exist.
 
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These islamic terrorists are real scum bags. They hold little babies hostage with ho'made bombs and machine guns. This whole incident was planned to happen the way it happened exept they probably wanted a higher body count. They were never going to negotiate with the Russians the terrorists who escaped were undoubtedly the leaders then the soldiers among them shot it out and the martyrs blew themselves up. They started blowing shit up so the Russian military did the right thing and moved in I don't see the blunder? Its all the Islamists fault. If the Russians wouldn't have moved in and just sat there all of the hostages would now be dead. but to some crazy wacked out muslim murdering children is godly if your end goal is to have a country of your own where you can force women to dress like ninjas and sever peoples heads for looking at a television. Did you know that some of the terrorists here were not chechans but arabs?
 
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These islamic terrorists are real scum bags. They hold little babies hostage with ho'made bombs and machine guns. This whole incident was planned to happen the way it happened exept they probably wanted a higher body count. They were never going to negotiate with the Russians the terrorists who escaped were undoubtedly the leaders then the soldiers among them shot it out and the martyrs blew themselves up. They started blowing shit up so the Russian military did the right thing and moved in I don't see the blunder? Its all the Islamists fault. If the Russians wouldn't have moved in and just sat there all of the hostages would now be dead. but to some crazy wacked out muslim murdering children is godly if your end goal is to have a country of your own where you can force women to dress like ninjas and sever peoples heads for looking at a television. Did you know that some of the terrorists here were not chechans but arabs?
You speak as if Islam is the cause of this...you obviously do not know the religion. The fact that they are Muslim or Arab does not change anything.

Don't ASSUME because it makes an ASS out of U and ME.
 
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from what I heard a bomb exploded. There were bombs everywhere on the wall and one of them dropped. This created a mass confusion, people running evrywhere. That's when the Russian forces decided that it was enough the only problem is that they did an unprepared and silly job. Could you imagine your son dead on the 1st day of school ?
Poutine once again didn't want to negociate, the result is at least 500 dead, most of them are children yes.
 
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During School Siege, Russia Took Captives in Chechnya


By Kim Murphy LA Times Staff Writer


ZNAMENSKOYE, Russia — It was 6 a.m. when Russian soldiers hoisted themselves over the wall, crashed through the window and broke down the front door. Their quarries were still asleep.

Shouting, shoving and kicking, the soldiers pushed 67-year-old Khavazh Semiyev and his wife into a truck waiting outside, then went back for the others — his two sons and two nephews, his son's wife, his 52-year-old sister. Then — and Semiyev couldn't believe his eyes — they went back for his grandchildren: Mansur, 11 years old. Malkhazni, 9. And Mamed, 7.

They were driven in their nightclothes and socks through the empty early morning streets of Chechnya to the Russian army's command center at Khankala. There, the men were forced onto their knees with their heads on the ground. Sacks were pulled over their heads, and their hands were tied behind their backs. For the next 24 hours, anyone who moved from that position got kicked.

Altogether, an estimated 40 family members of senior Chechen rebel leaders were assembled at Khankala from Thursday, a day after the hostage seizure in Beslan, until Saturday, the day after it ended.



Tortured Chechen civilian


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Journalists pay price for criticising government

Jonathan Steele in Moscow
Tuesday September 7, 2004
The Guardian

The editor of Russia's best known daily, Izvestiya, was sacked yesterday, two days after the newspaper carried strong criticism of the government's handling of the Beslan school tragedy.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,2763,1298621,00.html

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Chechen Republic of Ichkeria
Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Official Statement
09/12/2003

PRESS-RELEASE: TERRORISM IN RUSSIA IS ORGANIZED AND MANAGED BY THE RUSSIAN SECURITY AND MILITARY INTELLIGENCE SERVICES FOR PROPAGANDA AND SCAPEGOATING PURPOSES

Terrorism in Russia is organized and managed by the Russian security and military intelligence services for propaganda and scapegoating purposes. We do not think that the latest bombing in Moscow is an exception to this rule.

The fact that Russian security services in committing terrorist acts in Russia and elsewhere occasionally use their agents of Chechen origin does not make the Chechen people and the Chechen government responsible for the Kremlin's dreadful crimes. The Chechen government will not, under any circumstances, accept violence against civilians and civilian objects. We repeat that we condemn terrorism in all its forms.

We regret that the western governments fail to see that it is Russian governmental structures that organize these terrorist acts and that it is Russian agents that carry out these terrorist acts. There is a plenty of evidence to this.

For instance, Mr. Khanpasha Terkibaev, an ethnic Chechen serving for the Russian Secret Service and who is one of the main organizers and direct participant of the hostage taking in the Moscow Theater Center at Dubrovka in October 2002, is a clear proof that terror in Russia comes from the Russian government.

Mr. Khanpasha Terkibaev even after the hostage taking has continued to work for the Russian state structures, including the deputy head of President Putin's administration Mr. Vladislav Yuryevich Surkov and Putin's aide Mr. Sergei Vladimirovich Yastrzhembsky. As the hostage taking ended in killing not only Russian but also western nationals, we believe that western governments should no longer close eyes to Kremlin’s role in terrorism. [1]"

Press Office

See, for instance, Anna Politkovskaya’s article in Novaya Gazeta, issue # 30, 28 April 2003.


http://www.chechnya-mfa.info/print_news.php?func=detail&par=101
 
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Absurd? Not if you know Putin's past...

The FSB has already been "caught red-handed" in Sept. of 1999 and after.

a press conference in London in which he accused the FSB of carrying out the bombings with Putin's complicity in order to justify a second Chechen war. He presented as evidence the testimony of Nikita Chekulin, a former acting director of the Russian Explosives Conversion Center, a scientific research institute under the Ministry of Education, who was recruited by the FSB as a secret agent. Chekulin stated, and confirmed with documents, that in 1999-2000, a large quantity of hexogen, the explosive that is believed to have been used in the apartment bombings, was purchased by the institute from various military units and then, under the guise of gunpowder or dynamite, shipped all over the country to unknown destinations.
 
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Gettin crazier by the minute.

Leading Russian journalist 'poisoned'

Chris Tryhorn
Monday September 6, 2004

Alarm bells are ringing in Russian media circles after the alleged poisoning of Anna Politkovskaya, one of the most outspoken critics of Vladimir Putin's policy on Chechnya, and the apparent sacking of the editor of Izvestia today.

...was on her way to the siege in Beslan from Moscow when she collapsed mysteriously.

http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,14173,1298488,00.html
 
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J-Funk said:
You speak as if Islam is the cause of this...you obviously do not know the religion. The fact that they are Muslim or Arab does not change anything.

Don't ASSUME because it makes an ASS out of U and ME.

The fact that they are muslim does not change anything. The fact that they're were arabs indicates to me that radical violent islam is being spread all over the world by arab zealots. Who I have no doubt find plenty of justification for their actions in the Qu'ran. I am not saying that Only arabs or muslims murder people you only have to turn on your televison to hear reports of Israeli gun ships machine gunning a house full of people including kids. Yes those are some zionist scumbags. Your retort J funk is unfounded because Islam is not the only cause of this it is infact one of the many causes of these events and I doubt without the blind devotion propogandized by islam this event would have occured. Are chechans getting fucked over hard? Without a doubt but anyone who premeditates and murders little kids en mass is dispicable so J funk what do you think of the actions of these "CHechan freedom fighters" I dont recall you saying? Only baging on the other side. Do you think they were justified or are you willing to blame all criminal acts on government alone.

Oh yes dont Cliche because it makes an ass out of you.
 
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Police state coming to russia

President Vladimir Putin has ordered a drastic overhaul of the way Russia is run in the wake of a series of bombings and deadly attacks on civilians.

Mr Putin said strengthening central government control was a necessary part of the fight against terrorism.

He also announced plans to create a new federal anti-terror agency.

Mr Putin was speaking to a special cabinet meeting attended by regional governors, summoned after hundreds died in the school siege in Beslan.


Political shake-up


"The organisers and perpetrators of the terror attack are aiming at the disintegration of the state, the break-up of Russia," he told ministers, the Associated Press news agency reported.

QUICK GUIDE


The Chechen conflict

Mr Putin admitted Russia's fight against terrorism had not been effective so far, and went on to put forward a series of radical and far-reaching reforms, including:


-Plans to elect deputies of the state's lower house of parliament, the Duma, solely on a party-list basis - currently half are elected from local constituencies on a first-past-the-post basis

-Regional governors to be nominated by the head of state rather than elected

-A new federal commission to study the troubled North Caucasus region, at the heart of much tension

-Security services to increase their international co-operation

-Harsher punishments to be meted out to corrupt officials who help terrorists, for example by issuing false passports

-A "Public Chamber" initiative to give Russians a forum to debate government decisions

Mr Putin also repeated that Russia had a right to take pre-emptive action to "destroy criminals in their hideouts and, if necessary, abroad".

Security has become Moscow's top concern following the school siege in Beslan and a series of bombings, says the BBC's Peter Biles in Moscow.

The new measures will almost certainly strengthen Mr Putin's own position, and further limit the power of an already weakened opposition, our correspondent adds.

The new commission on the North Caucasus - a region that includes Chechnya and the North Ossetia republic that is home to Beslan - will be headed by the government chief of staff, Dimitry Kozak, one of Mr Putin's closest allies.

Security review

Further measures under consideration include restoring the death penalty, tighter controls on foreigners and the creation of a colour-coded alert system.


The governor of the Moscow region has said he wants checks to be carried out on anyone arriving in the capital from the Caucasus.

President Putin has already ordered a review of security in the North Caucasus.

He also ordered a parliamentary investigation following criticism of how the authorities handled the three-day school siege in North Ossetia.

At least 326 people were killed, about half of them children.

The day before the siege began, at least 10 people were killed in a suspected suicide bombing outside an underground railway station in Moscow.

Another 89 people were killed last month in a suspected terror attack when two Russian planes crashed within minutes of each other.
 
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Moscow children to wear dog tags

Moscow schoolchildren will soon have to wear military-style dog tags and carry special "passports" as part of a security drive in the wake of Beslan.
The Russian capital is also beefing up protection of its schools against intruders to prevent any terror attacks like the Beslan mass hostage-taking.

"Before the New Year most schools will have these passports," a senior Moscow city official told BBC News Online.

Yuri Popov said the metal dog tags were already being mass-produced.

Vital information

More than 330 schoolchildren, teachers and parents died when the hostage-taking in the North Ossetian town of Beslan ended in a bloodbath.

Dozens of victims remain unidentified more than a month after the tragedy.

Mr Popov, head of the Moscow city assembly's security and legislation committee, said children would wear the dog tags round their necks and carry the passports in their pockets, which would bear their fingerprints and other personal data.

The passport will give the child's name, address, telephone number, blood group and details of any allergies to medicines, he said.

It will also include advice on how to act in the event of an emergency, such as a terrorist attack.

"These measures can be introduced under the city's programme for civil defence," Mr Popov said.

"We asked teachers, school governors, and they conducted surveys. Most were in favour," he said.

The city authorities have been working on ways to improve school security since November, he added.