At least 100 in Russian school dead

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At least 100 bodies have reportedly been found in a school in southern Russia where Chechen separatists had been holding hundreds of hostages.



Heavy gunfire and loud explosions were heard throughout the morning as Russian troops stormed the school, in the town of Beslan in North Ossetia.



There is confusion as to why the Russian forces went in, as the operation seems to have been unplanned.



Correspondents say the day's events have taken Moscow by surprise.



The BBC's Humphrey Hawksley in Moscow says there has been a wall of silence from President Vladimir Putin and his government.



Meanwhile, the US White House condemned the hostage-taking as "barbaric" and blamed the hostage-takers for the lives lost during the storming of the school.

Battle continues

Hundreds of children were freed in the seizure, though some are badly injured.

Russian officials confirmed that some dead had been found inside the school. Many of them are thought to have died when part of the school's roof collapsed.

More than 400 people were injured.


Click here to see the layout of the school

More than 10 of the hostage-takers are also reported to have died in exchanges of fire with troops as they tried to escape.

But several hours after the assault, a group of rebels was still firing from a building in the school compound, Itar-Tass said.

According to police, the hostage-takers had split into three groups during the storming, with some staying in the school, others fleeing to the south and the remainder trying to blend in with the hostages.


Russian security officials said they had still been intending to negotiate with them.

"I want to point out that no military action was planned," said regional Federal Security Service chief Valery Andreyev. "We were planning further talks."

Security forces had opened fire to save the lives of hostages who were being fired on by gunmen, he said.

The BBC's Sarah Rainsford says a man who had been inside the building told her there had been an explosion and a wall had collapsed. This had been followed by gunfire and many more explosions.

It is unclear what caused the initial explosion.


White sheets

Correspondents say many of those released were desperate for water when they came out, and some were barely able to stand.

There were scenes of pandemonium, as children ran terrified and half-naked through the streets grabbing water bottles from medics.

One boy described his escape.

"I smashed the window to get out," he told Russian TV. "People were running in all directions... [The rebels] shot from the roof."

Ambulances ferried hundreds of people to hospital. Our correspondent says at least 150 children were among them.

Helicopters hovered overhead and there were troops everywhere.

Reuters said six bodies lay covered with white sheets near the school gates, and parents filed past lifting the sheets to see whether their children were underneath.

Officials put the number of hostages at 354 before Thursday's release, although the school has more than 1,000 pupils.

The attackers - both men and women, some wearing bomb belts - struck on Wednesday, the first day of the new school year in Russia.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3624024.stm
 
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someone should hang these people by there nuts and let um die of starvation.


same with anyone else who does shit like this. broke ass bitches. if your country or people aint got enough money or power to fight a war, dont say or do shit till you get some.



kill kids and did what? are they one of the types of people who belive that killing people makes them reach there version of hevean? if so i say we wipe out every single last one of them.
 
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Yes it is a shame. And both parties are to blame in this one. First, the terrorists for even considering children as hostages, and second the poor decision making leaders of Russia for not handling this extreme situation more cautiously. This reminds me of the hostage situation in Russia in 2002 where 115 people (hostages) were killed by the authorities by “knock-out gas” which they idiotically mixed incorrectly and instead of knocking out the rebels, it killed everyone in the building.
 
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I WAS READING A ARTICLE...ABOUT THIS ON MSN.COM..
AND THEY HAD A FEW OTHER THINGS ABOUT RUSSIAS....MILITARY SCREW-UPS...
.....WOW...SO MANY LIVES COULD HAVE BEEN SAVED....IF THEY DIDNT MAKE SUCH STUPID DECISIONS..
....AND THOSE ARE KIDS ...WHICH MAKES IT 50x'S WORSE..

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DubbC415 said:
^^i think that was in the russian movie theater?
Yeah, that's correct.

Last two months for russia has been horrible.

2004 August - Two passenger aircraft crash within minutes of each other after take-off from Moscow, killing all 89 passengers and crew. Investigators find traces of explosives in the wreckage of both planes and blame terrorists.

August - At least 10 people killed in explosion outside Moscow underground station. Group sympathising with Chechen separatists issues statement saying it carried out the attack.
 
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I just did a little more research, the rebels in this case are pieces of iShhh! starving kids and depriving them of water for 3 days, that's ridiculous, what a shame...
 
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russian authorities are idiots, with that hostage situation that happened in moscow a couple years ago they gassed the people but when the people started dropping dead the medics needed to know what was in the gas that they were exposed to but the russians didnt tell them until like 100 more people dropped dead.
 
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The impression i got from this and other articles is that they went in because the terrorists decided to start killing people.

Basically that they wanted to negotiate with them, but since they started killing people they had to rush in to try and stop it before they just killed everyone.


seperate note:

i wonder how long it's going to take for things like this to happen here, how long before they see how well things work on the russians and try it here?
 
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ColdBlooded said:
The impression i got from this and other articles is that they went in because the terrorists decided to start killing people.

Basically that they wanted to negotiate with them, but since they started killing people they had to rush in to try and stop it before they just killed everyone.
I highly suspect the story the Russian authorities are telling is full of shit, simply because of past situations where information slowly gets out days, weeks and even months after the official story is released. I’m sure in the coming days more and more information will be revealed of the severe blunders they made.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
What a mess...what a horrible decision to raid the school with unskilled commandos when hundreds of children are inside.
I sorta think they needed to do sumthing...the people were in there for DAYS without foor or water,i dont know if that was the right thing...but some sort of action was necessary...I CANT BELIEVE they have resorted to schools...children are the most innocent..nuthing bothers me more then children having to be involved...the hostage-takers have their reason for what they are doing...but they are doing it to the WRONG people...therefore i MUST say all hostage-takers who are caught (if any) should be publicly executed in the most cruel and in-humane way..SORRY fellas i know the hostage takers have suffered greatly also from the war with russia...but this is TOO much...I HOPE ALL LIVES CAN BE SPARED...
 
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One unfortunate characteristic of countries dealing with or having trouble assimilationg traditionally "new" forms of government (i.e. Russia with capitalism) is an overall ineptness and ineffectiveness in government services. eg: Had Russia still been communist today, (or had it been capitalist for 50 years prior) the mistake rate among such sectors as the national military would be lower.

Not that this would not have happened, but the chances for bungling would be lower. The funny thing about the principle of government inefficiency in unassimilated systems is its uniformity. The army, the library, the tap water, the fire department, etc. of a poor ass African country will be better than those of another poor ass African country dealing with any sort of transition.

This is the catch-22 of change: countries enact revolutions and institute sweeping governmental changes looking for improvement, but instead lose efficiency and often end up worse off.
 
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What happened in Russia...happens in Russia all the time. Terrorism does not happen here all the time. Terrorism affects the US on a smaller scale than nearly every single country in the world.