Are you making shit up as you go along? When the FUCK did I ever say it wasn't a huge disaster; when the fuck did I say entering that country was a good thing; when the fuck have I ever showed any support for that war? You said some shit about America killing it's own troops with agent orange as if it was their objective, from that point on I posted over and over trying to explain to you how that was not what they wanted to do.
Go back and read your own posts. Were you not defending the War? It seems you were making excuses, that’s for sure.
Didn't two leaders arise in Vietnam, one supporting communism, and the other building the Republic of Vietnam?
Yes, one of them had the support of the people from North and South Vietnam, the other was an American puppet. The vast majority of the people [north and south] wanted a communist society.
Was I lied to when I was told that many northern vietnamese left and headed south to live under the ruling of Diem?
No, you were not lied to. But you have to investigate just how much “many” truly was, and why they left. You also have to investigate how and why Diem gained power. Diem was PLACED into power by the United States and France to lead South Vietnam. In other words, he was a puppet. There were also several attempts to overthrow Diem, NOT by the communist, but by S. Vietnamese who were aware of who he truly was.
Diem was NOT democratically elected and was NOT a good guy by any means. After his “election” he began arresting his opponents. In a short period of time, approximately 100,000 people were put in prison camps. Communists and socialists were his main targets but journalists, trade-unionists and leaders of religious groups were also arrested. Even children found writing anti-Diem messages on walls were put in prison. Diem also inflicted strong laws against Buddhist. If you know your history Nitro, you will know that over 70% of the populations were Buddhists. Do you remember this picture?
It wasn’t just the “communist” who opposed Diem, the Buddhists, workers, peasants, etc etc etc opposed him. After this suicide, Diem’s government’s response was to arrest thousands of Buddhist monks, many of whom were murdered.
Diem did not have support of the people and America new this and new they had to come up with a new plan. John F. Kennedy ordered Lucien Conein, a CIA operative, to provid a group of South Vietnamese generals with $40,000 to carry out a coup with the promise that US forces would make no attempt to protect Diem. At the beginning of November, 1963, President Diem was overthrown by a military coup. After the generals had promised Diem that he would be allowed to leave the country they changed their mind and killed him.
Is it true that the United States strongly opposes communism and the spread of it?
Yes, they use communism as an excuse to invade, assassinate and rape countries of they’re natural resources. Check the Latin American thread. [It’s cute how you, Mclean and other “patriots” ignored that thread]
Is it true that the northern vietnamese, with the help of two other communist states (China and Russia) invaded and overthrew Diem to spread communism?
No, check above.
P.S. Don't waiste your time trying to write a story on "what really happened" because I'm not up for debating a subject I don't really stand for.
So in other words, your only interested in your interpretation of what happened, right? Just like how you’re not interested in facts and other evidence that shows the Bush administration lied?
