Article from the argus about the fremont rallies

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Aug 21, 2005
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At least Oso Really did something whether it was in a positive or negative way as you said everyone is bais so no matter what they are gonna make the mexican people look bad. Maybe some times you gotta be negative in order for some positive to come around who knows maybe someone who can really make a difference will see what is going on, and help.
 

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760 Northside said:
Than why u always talkin shit on the internet it would be expect from a youngster but not a grown man come on now how mature are you? Really.
AY, DOG... YOU ACT LIKE NONE OF YOU VATOS TALK SHIT... I BELIEVE IM MATURE ENOUGH TO THE POINT THAT I DONT GET ALL MAD N SHIT AT WHATS BEIN SAID ON THE INTERNET... IM TRYIN TO STATE MY OPINIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE MASA YOU FOOS BARK ON HERE ALL DAY... ALOT OF WHAT I TYPE AINT REALLY NETBANGIN, DOG... LIKE TROLL SAYS, "IM MORE OF A RESPONDER... IF THATS NETBANGIN, THEN SO BE IT..." QUOTE, UNQUOTE...
 
Aug 21, 2005
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you dont see me in here typing some bullshit about others 4 no reason. I think that this is an east co co forum and if you dont support this music then dont post in here and the same should go for every forum.
 

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LAZYBOY408 said:
homie this is the internet why would you even try set trippin on the internet why don't you stay out of this forum already shit all you do is talk shit
IF ALL I DID WAS TALK SHIT THEN I WOULDNT HAVE LACED YOUR BOY WITH SOME HONEST KNOWLEDGE. BUT IF YOU PERCEIVED MY OPINION ON IT AS SHIT TALKING I COULD GIVE A FUCK, PLUS I WILL POST WHERE I WANT JUST LIKE YOU ARE FREE TO DO YOURSELF.PLUS IT WAS OSO LOC WHO ASKED TO PUT THE BANGING ASIDE AND LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE SO IM RESPONDING ON HIS TERMS. WOULD I BE WILLING TO DO WHAT I SAID? TO BE HONEST WITH YOU THAT IS A BIG THING TO DEDICATE YOURSELF TOO. IM NOT WILLING TO PUT MYSELF UNDER THAT SCRUTINITY, THEY KILL YOU POLITICALLY AND TAKE YOUR CREDIBILITY. THIS IS THERE GAME, WE STILL HAVE TO PLAY BY THERE RULES WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. I'M NOT TRYNA SAY OSO LOC IS WRONG FOR TRYING. WHAT I AM SAYING IS YOU HAVE TO PUT ALL THE HYPOCRITICAL SHIT TO THE SIDE.YOU CANT SAY YOUR STANDING UP FOR YOUR PEOPLE YET STILL BEEFING WITH THEM. IT'S TO MUCH OF A CONTRADICTION. IF THEY GET A JEST OF THAT IT WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU EVENTUALLY. THIS WHITE MAN'S SYTEM IS BUILT ON DECEPTION, LIES, CONTRADICTIONS, AND COWARDNESS. LOOK AT THE NATIVES, THE BLACKS, THE MEXICANS, AND EVERY OTHER RACE THAT HAS BEEN PERSECUTED. TELL ME THEY HAVENT PROVED THEMSELVES TIME AND TIME AGAIN? WHERE IN THE 2000'S AND STILL HAVING RACE ISSUES LIKE IT WAS THE 60'S. WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE HAVE TO PLAY THERE GAME BUT BETTER AND HARDER BUT AT WHAT COST WILL THERE BE VICTORY?
 
Mar 12, 2005
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BECAUSE, WHETHER WE'RE AWARE OF IT OR NOT, ALOT OF MINORITIES ARE COMING UP, AND THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WANT TO SEE A COLORED MAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE. THE ONLY PEOPLE IN THE GOVERNMENT THAT I TIP MY HAT TO ARE FIREMEN, DOCTORS, BUT FUCK A CROOKED COP. YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT A CROOKED SYSTEM, AND YOU'RE ALSO RIGHT, BIG OSO COULD OF WENT AT IT ANOTHER WAY. JUST LIKE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. OR VIOLENTLY LIKE MALCOLM X. THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO KEEP THE COLOR AT A MINIMUM AND PORTRAY AMERICA AS A ARYAN NATION. I'M NOT SAYING THE US GOVERNMENT IS 100% RACIST, BUT ALOT OF THEM ARE. STOMPER I GOT ONE QUESTION FOR YOU FOO, WOULD YOU STAND ALONG SIDE BIG OSO LOC IN A PROTEST, NO COLORS INVOLVED, AND RAISE YOUR HEAD AND FIST IN THE AIR, SHOWING YOUR WILL TO FIGHT THESE MINUTE MEN? WELL IF NO THEN YOU'RE BEING HYPOCRITAL.
 
Jun 13, 2002
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SLICC RICC said:
^^^IM A GROWN MAN, DOG... I GOT NO PROBLEM MARCHIN WIT A MAN THAT SHARES THE SAME VIEWS AS ME, WHEN IT COMES TO THE MINUTEMEN, AND MOST OTHER IMMIGRATION ISSUES... IF I WAS IN FREMONT, I PROBABLY WOULDVE SLID THRU THERE, NOT ON NO GANG SHIT, BUT IN SUPPORT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE OPPRESSED THE MOST, WHEN IN TRUTH, THEY GRIT N GRIND THE MOST... WHAT MAN IS GONNA TELL ME WHAT TO BELEIVE IN OR WHAT NOT TO BELIEVE IN??? MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT MAN IS GONNA TELL ME WHERE I CAN OR CANT GO...

ACTUALLY I WAS TALKIN TO THAT STOMPER FOOL.
 
Jun 13, 2002
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YEAH WELL I NEVER GOT PUT ON. I GREW UP IN THE SAME KINDA ENVIORMENT. I DONT KNOW SOME TIMES IT'S FRUSTRATING LIKE MY HOMIES WHO ARE HELLA SMART AND THEY KNOW THERES MORE TO THIS WORLD THEN REPPIN YOUR HOOD AND POSTING ON THE BLOCK ALL DAY. BUT THEY STILL DO IT. IT'S LIKE THEY HELLA CARE TO MUCH WHAT PEOPLE FROM THEY TURF THINK. BUT HALF THEM FOOLS ARE LOW LIFE PEICES OF SHIT THAT WONT BE SHIT NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY GRINDING ON THE BLOCK. LIKE COME ON YALL YOU CAN BE SO MUCH MORE YOU FEEL ME. YOU CAN BE BORN AND RAISED IN THE HOOD BUT THAT DONT MEAN YOU BELONG THERE. THE ENVIORMENT CREATES AND PUTS ITS WORLD VEIW IN YOUR HEAD. BUT WHY CANT YOU CREATE YOUR OWN WORLD VEIW???? AND EXSPAND YOUR MIND BEYOND HOODS BLOCKS AND TURFS.

NOW DAYS ITS SO COOL TO BE A THUG ARE GANGSTER BUT MU FUCKAS DONT REALLY KNOW THAT LIFE IS REALLY FOR LOW LIFE NOBODYS WHO CANT BE A NORMALL PERSON IN SOCIETY. THEN THEY SUCK THE SMART PEOPLE IN WHEN THEY YOUNG AND BRAIN WASH THEM LIKE THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO SURVIVE AND IT'S STRIGHT BULLSHIT SUCKING THEM DOWN TO THERE LEVEL. I DONT KNOW THATS HOW I SEE IT AND IT'S HELLA SAD TO ME AND SOMETIMES ITS FRUSTRATING.
 
Aug 21, 2005
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WXS STOMP3R said:
LOOK AT THE NATIVES, THE BLACKS, THE MEXICANS, AND EVERY OTHER RACE THAT HAS BEEN PERSECUTED. TELL ME THEY HAVENT PROVED THEMSELVES TIME AND TIME AGAIN? WHERE IN THE 2000'S AND STILL HAVING RACE ISSUES LIKE IT WAS THE 60'S. WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE HAVE TO PLAY THERE GAME BUT BETTER AND HARDER BUT AT WHAT COST WILL THERE BE VICTORY?
But look at this history you say that he was wrong 4 handling it like that when all these races you mention handled it violently before, it is the 2000's but that is how everything still is handled the only difference is when they become violent it is justified. it might be there game but that doesn't mean its right when they do it, both sides might be wrong but lets face it that is how everything is solved if there is no comprimise there is no change.
 
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there's two ways to handle this situation. non violent or violent. the minutemen have been holding rallies in fremont for a few months now with pro immigrant protestors across the street. things were being handled non violently. two weeks before we went out there a minutemen supporter walked across the street and took flight on a couple pro immigrant protestors and an older mexican woman was arrested for vadalism when she slapped a bullhorn out of a minutemen's hand when it was shoved in her face. no minutemen were arrested. now this would have gone on for who knows how long.....the day me and my homies showed up. things got handled violently and now the minutemen are scared to hold any rallies in fremont. in my eyes i did my part and got something done in one day which peacefully, who knows how long it would have took for this bullshit to stop and get attention. hopefully, we started something and now the attention this altercation has gotten will hopefully spark peoples attention to what is goin on in our streets.
 
Aug 21, 2005
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BIG OSO LOC said:
there's two ways to handle this situation. non violent or violent. the minutemen have been holding rallies in fremont for a few months now with pro immigrant protestors across the street. things were being handled non violently. two weeks before we went out there a minutemen supporter walked across the street and took flight on a couple pro immigrant protestors and an older mexican woman was arrested for vadalism when she slapped a bullhorn out of a minutemen's hand when it was shoved in her face. no minutemen were arrested. now this would have gone on for who knows how long.....the day me and my homies showed up. things got handled violently and now the minutemen are scared to hold any rallies in fremont. in my eyes i did my part and got something done in one day which peacefully, who knows how long it would have took for this bullshit to stop and get attention. hopefully, we started something and now the attention this altercation has gotten will hopefully spark peoples attention to what is goin on in our streets.
^^^ Some Real Shit

Thats what ive been sayin at least everyones not brain dead.
 
Feb 7, 2006
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I'm from LA, but on the whole immigrant shit the bay got that on us. Prop 187 wasn't succesful in 7 cities in Cali., and they were all in the bay. Keep the revolucion strong, and fuck the dumb shit.
 
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BIG OSO LOC said:
...the day me and my homies showed up. things got handled violently and now the minutemen are scared to hold any rallies in fremont.

Sometimes things have to be handled this way, and at least something good came out of it. Much respect Oso, for having the balls to express your opinion, even if it meant you catching a case for it.
 

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BIG OSO LOC said:
there's two ways to handle this situation. non violent or violent. the minutemen have been holding rallies in fremont for a few months now with pro immigrant protestors across the street. things were being handled non violently. two weeks before we went out there a minutemen supporter walked across the street and took flight on a couple pro immigrant protestors and an older mexican woman was arrested for vadalism when she slapped a bullhorn out of a minutemen's hand when it was shoved in her face. no minutemen were arrested. now this would have gone on for who knows how long.....the day me and my homies showed up. things got handled violently and now the minutemen are scared to hold any rallies in fremont. in my eyes i did my part and got something done in one day which peacefully, who knows how long it would have took for this bullshit to stop and get attention. hopefully, we started something and now the attention this altercation has gotten will hopefully spark peoples attention to what is goin on in our streets.
WELL IT SEEMS LIKE YOU TURNED A NEGATIVE INTO A POSITIVE, AT LEAST UP UNTIL THIS POINT. BELEIVE THE NEXT TIME AROUND THEY WILL BE READY FOR ANY TURN OF EVENTS. VIOLENCE JUST UPS THE STAKES A LIL MORE. BUT AS THE STAKES GO UP SO DOES YOR PROFILE. IF YOU KEEP SPEARHEADING THIS MOVEMENT I WOULDNT PUT IT PAST ANYONE OR ANYTHING TO START THREATENING YOUR PERSONAL LIFE WHETHER IT BE LEGALLY OR ILLEGAL. SO FOR YOU BENEFIT BE AWARE OF YOUR RIGHTS FOR THEY WILL TRY TO EXPLOIT THEM IF YOU DONT HAVE HIRED REPRESENTATION.
 

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760 Northside said:
But look at this history you say that he was wrong 4 handling it like that when all these races you mention handled it violently before, it is the 2000's but that is how everything still is handled the only difference is when they become violent it is justified. it might be there game but that doesn't mean its right when they do it, both sides might be wrong but lets face it that is how everything is solved if there is no comprimise there is no change.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING MAN IF YOU HANDLE SHIT VIOLENTLY THEY CLAIM TO BE THE VICTIMS IF YOU DONT HANDLE IT VIOLENTLY THEN THEY WILL TRY TO INTIMIDATE AND USE VIOLENCE. IN OTHER WORDS THEY WILL USE EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING THAT BENEFITS THEM. BUT YOU HAVE TO TRY TO GO THRU THE PROPER CHANNELS AT LEAST TO REASON THAT THERE WAS AN EFFORT TO DO THINGS ACCORDING TO THEIR SYSTEM.IF YOU DONT THEY WILL EXPLOIT THAT AS WELL. I DIDNT ACCUSE OSO LOC OF BEING WRONG I STATED THAT THINGS HAVE TO BE HANDLED A CERTAIN WAY. HE DID WHAT HE DID AND LOOK HOW THEY SPINNED IT!!! THE GAME HAS TO BE PLAYED A CERTAIN WAY. WHETHER YOU RESPECT IT OR NOT.IF YOU REALLY WANT TO MAKE A DIFFRENCE THEN VIOLENCE IS NOT JUST THE ONLY OPTION YOU HAVE. IT WAS LIKE WHEN THE MEXICAN IMMIGRANTS WERE MARCHING WITH THE MEXICAN FLAGS LOOK AT HOW SOMETHING SO MINISCULE BECAME AN ISSUE TO ALOT OF WHITE FOLX, BUT OBVIOUSLY SOMEBODY WAS SMART ENOUGH TO CATCH IT AND NEXT TIME AROUND THEY HAD AMERICAN FLAGS. THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. WE ARE NOW IN A TIME IN AMERICAN HISTORY WHERE THE TABLES CAN BE TURNED BUT ONLY IF WE'RE SMART ENOUGH TO DO IT. WHICH IN MY OPINION I FEEL CAN BE DONE. AND NOT TOO MAKE IT A SOUTH/NORTH THING AGAIN BUT WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT IS EXACTLY WHAT CESAR CHAVEZ PRACTICED AND IS SOMETHING YOU ALL SHOULD KNOW. CONSIDERING YOU RESPECTED HIM ENOUGH TO USE THE HUELGA BIRD.
 
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I see it like this..

They have a system in place already where the badguys can be labeled on anybody but its the outlet which gets to do the labeling. Our youth today doesnt have artist's in its mainstream to preach the truth.. they have gone into this weird emo thing... I laugh how the people got pissed off cuz the mexican flag'z were flying yet when u go down south (texas,missispi etc) it wouldnt be nothing to see a confederate flag sticker on some redneck slack jaw'd yokelz pickup.. im not buying into their offer that u can be a mexican-american but u can't show your pride in your bloodline'z founding fatherz.. FUCK THAT.. I think the problem is that alot of people think they cant do something about it when its only really a cover for their laziness, ignorance and apathy..

and as far as it being considered "gang-related" and how its a stupid thing, i beg to ask one how they can believe that pushing a stereotype of somebody who'z showing love from where they're from is anymore intelligent.. who are we to claim another person is wrong for fighting for what they believe?? you dont have to agree with it, but your in no better position to spite someone for it... we all know there is strength in numbers.... i think that the stereotypical "gangster" is a ploy produced by those wanting to take power from the local's to make it seem as if everybody who joins the cause closes their mind to the rest of the world when in fact it can mean the exact opposite..how? because you are exposed to how the world really operates. the street gang is no less a product of human psyche then is the fight or flight response.. gangz wether governmental/political/social etc have always been around for as long as we as a species have been on this earth, dating back to when native american hunting parties began warfare against eachother for a piece of land that they lived off of..the gang task units that patrol our streets are not meant to quell violence or push for peace, but too cripple civil uprisings and power that mite be taken from the local government (we have all heard of street justice). if peace was what they really wanted then thats where the funding would go, but instead its spent on keeping them behind bars..same thing with parolee's.. they want to brand you as a possible threat to their control by making it harder for you to become an active member of society after you have already served time....see, everybody has potential no matter who or what they're fighting for and its sad that people have bought into what the mainstream agenda tellz them, that your average gangster is a mindless brute only meant to terrorize when at the same time u have the CIA dealin crack and hop and police getting a free pass to shoot someone if they can claim they believed their life was in danger.. and im supposed to be worried at what these people think about me?? again FUCK THAT..


in a time where,the line'z in which split us as region's is what keeps the people within its borders united for a cause. The Infiltrations of warring factions with differing agenda's can set up, recruit and start a seed which can grow into a weed choking the image of its neighbors place on this earth by introducing its own region'z collective presence.




i ask who's going to have the soldiers and the ammunition when the 2nd civil war breaks out? the police state has begun..

Benjamin Franklin said:
One who gives up his liberties in exchange for saftey deserve's niether liberties or saftey