i understand that rap is a way to eat and a way to escape certain economic situations and i'm not mad at that. however when your main motivation to rap is to make money it devalues your "art" imo. the idea of rap as a hustle is part of the reason why we have so many bullshit albums flooding the market, and if the "rap game" is about putting out bullshit albums to eat then that's why hip-hop is dead right now. but who am i to hate on another mans hustle?
Are the major labels watering down the Bay sound for the mainstream?
- Thread starter Chinese Mike
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hyphy is the closest thing to a sound that will really sell, it came from the bay some people shouldn't hate on it too much. MOB muzik wuz dope, but hey it wuz not movin nathan n rappin is a job - the game's to be sold not told (hey pac even said so dont get mad). So the bay needed something new. N if ya listen, i mean really listen to the whole albu, u'll styill heat some mob style tracks n some g shit
most catz hatin probaly only listen to the radio, bootlegs, downloads so they get the more mainstream muzik. buy an some albums, hear some g shit n support the bay scene.
most catz hatin probaly only listen to the radio, bootlegs, downloads so they get the more mainstream muzik. buy an some albums, hear some g shit n support the bay scene.
mcdonalds sells a lot of hamburgers but i'm not buying em.
i see a lot of rappers in the bay with cut rate product trying to get their hustle on, and it ain't working. i see a lot of rappers in the bay saying things that they think the public wants to hear, and it aint working. i see bay rappers trying to cater to a generic mainstream sound when the world is still ready for a hyphy sound, whatever that is. i've been to ny, mia, ohio and la this last year and everytime i say i'm from the bay all i hear is about the hyphy shit. what are they gonna think when the next bay/hyphy acts they hear have a 50 cent sound, or a snap music sound?
and that ain't no diss to anyone in particular, i'm jsut saying...
i see a lot of rappers in the bay with cut rate product trying to get their hustle on, and it ain't working. i see a lot of rappers in the bay saying things that they think the public wants to hear, and it aint working. i see bay rappers trying to cater to a generic mainstream sound when the world is still ready for a hyphy sound, whatever that is. i've been to ny, mia, ohio and la this last year and everytime i say i'm from the bay all i hear is about the hyphy shit. what are they gonna think when the next bay/hyphy acts they hear have a 50 cent sound, or a snap music sound?
and that ain't no diss to anyone in particular, i'm jsut saying...
thats a given, but the idea is to market the hyphy sound to the world, not make hyphy music over prefabricated snap beats or whatever. my concern is branding the hyphy subgenre in the mainstream so that it lasts, not making a one hit wonder soundalike single.
example:
first time i heard it i thought clyde carsons 2step sounded like some 50 shit, which in a way is a compliment cause the hook is catchy and the beat is dre-esque. then i thought about it from another perspective, like what is someone from arkansas or whatever gonna think when they hear the song? either this is some new 50 shit or who is this dude trying to sound like 50 (and 2 step is better than hands up imo). so ultimately in terms of branding a hyphy or bay area sound 2step doesn't go very far.
after watching the fabby vid, i think that it represents the bay well.
example:
first time i heard it i thought clyde carsons 2step sounded like some 50 shit, which in a way is a compliment cause the hook is catchy and the beat is dre-esque. then i thought about it from another perspective, like what is someone from arkansas or whatever gonna think when they hear the song? either this is some new 50 shit or who is this dude trying to sound like 50 (and 2 step is better than hands up imo). so ultimately in terms of branding a hyphy or bay area sound 2step doesn't go very far.
after watching the fabby vid, i think that it represents the bay well.
My point is there should be no "Bay Style." Why label something and set limitations? Why not just let it fly, see what happens instead of putting up a wall on it?
You say Hyphy is the West Coast crunk, cool dude, you just limited what hyphy can be: West Coast crunk. I think theres more too it, and I think there is more to Bay Area hip hop than Hyphy.
yup thats what im sayin 2 dude cause i know there aint no dr. dres like i said but not many spend tim like dre did 2 perfect his craft cause a great rapper doesnt just have a great dekivery, or flow or lyrics they have all three then u get a good beat thats the last thing a great rapper needs thats why when people say shit slaps im like but how r thelyrics and they always say it slaps but what about the fuckin lyrics i mean i like hella songs 4 the beat but the lyrics r huge 2
lyrics + interesting / unique topics + fresh flows + personality + hustle.
to me thats the formula. not an one rapper has everything, but those are the things that make someone dope, to me.
anyway why is everyone worried about blowing up nationally? nobody is movinng those monster units anymore. its all about regional shit, to me.
to me thats the formula. not an one rapper has everything, but those are the things that make someone dope, to me.
anyway why is everyone worried about blowing up nationally? nobody is movinng those monster units anymore. its all about regional shit, to me.
Its a huge conspiracy....The music industry knows that the bay created everything and its trying to keep the bay down...the bay is the center of all rap.....All the greatest albums in the history of rap were actually written and recorded by Bay area rappers but then released under aliases eg. Dr Dre's Chronic, NWA's Niggaz4Life, Nas' Illmatic, B.I.G.'s Life After Death etc
There are two many different types of artists in the bay for the sound of the bay to be defined into a block, the best thing about the music that comes out the bay is that it is different, too much talent doin their own big thangs the bay is here to stay, the media is so focused and biased towards the east coast we got to yell or go dumb for them to take notice, it is that way in music, sports, n way of life.
I dont know why you guys have not figured this out yet. Major labels are in it to sell records. They will pretty much follow a formula that works. They are known to follow trends, not break new ground to try something new. Most of the time they keep it safe, and to tell you the truth I dont blame them.
Me personally, I will say that I dont really like this "Hyphy" movement stuff. I am older tho, so I wouldnt expect people to think I would anyway. I am however a fan of good music, and some artists who represent the "Hyphy" movement have good music. I support that.
As for tailoring music to fit a mold that already works, im not surprised. That is a right of passage in the game. You have to earn your right to do your own thing when your signed. In the end the label you signed to has to concurr with the album you turn in, and that its ready to release so..............
Me personally, I will say that I dont really like this "Hyphy" movement stuff. I am older tho, so I wouldnt expect people to think I would anyway. I am however a fan of good music, and some artists who represent the "Hyphy" movement have good music. I support that.
As for tailoring music to fit a mold that already works, im not surprised. That is a right of passage in the game. You have to earn your right to do your own thing when your signed. In the end the label you signed to has to concurr with the album you turn in, and that its ready to release so..............