one of the things with how i feel about it is, the cd was put out on cd-r to begin with. it's not like it is a darkroom cd that is out of print or something you know? if it were out there somewhere on the market, i would find it, whether it be banned or just out of print. but the thing is, there were VERY limited sales and distribution of that album by DREW, and belly is the only person i have ever known to talk about the cd until now. i feel no shame in getting the music from belly, because drew didn't get his product out there, Lord knows i would have swooped one if he made it available to his supporters, but he didn't. For the people out there just wanting a cd because some dood is kickin down a free cd, that is fucked up, but for the ones who feel like me about the situation have nothing to be ashamed as far as i am concerned. when he does drop something in the future, i will likely cop it, and if he wants his cheese for the shit that gabe sent me over the net, he is entitled as far as i am concerned, he put in the studio time, he earned it.