Anyone See The Cops Beat This 16 Year Old Kid In Inglewood?

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Apr 25, 2002
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PLOT said:


then why is it that in my 22 years of life I have NEVER seen a black cop beating a white person on TV???
Do you watch cops?

I've seen black cops tackle some white guys HARD for being out of line or hit them if they were trying to resist arrest, and vice versa and I've seen the same with white cops. No problem they are doing there job. But the difference between what happens on the cops show and what happened a couple days ago was that this young black teenager was not out of line, the cop was clearly misusing his powers. After the young black brotha got slammed to the car he got some unnecessary blows to the head and even choked by his necklace.

Force is use to restrain it is not use to punish, and if a black cop did that to a white guy it would be on TV. How could it not?
 
Apr 25, 2002
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BULLSHIT....YOU HAVE NO FACTS TO BACK YOUR ASSUMPTIONS.
& YOU MAKE YOUSELF LOOK LIKE AN ASS IN THE PROCESS.
I'm not making an ass out of myself becasue it's common sense

It's POLICE BRUTALITY, this has nothing to do with color. If a cop is out of line and it's caught on tape, it's gonna make noise. A cop of any race caught on tape is not allowed to assault somebody and walk away with clean hands. Now some do, like some of the cops that beat Rodney King, but not all.

ON MY 18TH BIRTHDAY....8 YEARS AGO....MY BEST FRIEND, WHO IS FROM FRANCE, & THAT IS WHATIE...WAS BEATEN BAD BY A GROUP OF BLACK & WHITE COPS, & HE DID NOTHING TO THEM TO PROVOKE IT BUT TALK BACK WHEN THEY WERE TALKING SHIT TO HIM, SO THEY BEAT HIM. SO END YOUR FUCKING SOB STORRY RIGHT THERE TENK....CAUSE YOU HAVE NO FACTS TO BACK YOUR PLAY. YOU ARE FULL OF BULLSHIT. [/B]
What sob story am I telling? I'm telling you what happened. If it's a sob story then thats what it is.

First of all my heart goes out to your friend for getting beat up by cops. No one should be the victim of that.

Secondly, I hope you weren't using this as an example of a white guy getting beat up by black cops? Because you said that he was beat up by a group of black and white cops....well it doesn't appear racially motivated if both groups beat him but I could be wrong. I will say that they used excess force on him....and it was wrong. Unfortunatly that beating was not caught on tape just like a bunch of assaults against young minorities aren't caught on tape.
 
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To play devil's advocate. Once you get your adrenaline going its hard to turn it off, thats why I would have excused the cop dipping him on the hood, everything after that was excessive. I have been arrested on occasion and trust me for the most part, if they are going to put you over the hood of the car, its not going to be gentle. I have been assaulted twice by the Police and harrased numerious times. I was even pepper sprayed by some pig when I was doing his job breaking up a fight. And get this I am White. PIgs whupping on people is not a race issue to me, its an issue of abuse of power. I would almost bet that if you looked at statistics of complaints against Police brutality there would be more from White folks. IF the kid was White Black or Orange it shouldnt make a difference. It was wrong and now they should pay.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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BigE916WRM said:
I would almost bet that if you looked at statistics of complaints against Police brutality there would be more from White folks. IF the kid was White Black or Orange it shouldnt make a difference. It was wrong and now they should pay.
YOU SURE???????

FROM POLICE BRUTALITY STAT SITE

Race continues to play a central role in police brutality in the United States. In the cities we have examined where such data are available, minorities have alleged human rights violations by police more frequently than white residents and far out of proportion to their representation in those cities. Police have subjected minorities to apparently discriminatory treatment and have physically abused minorities while using racial epithets. Mistreatment may be non-violent harassment and humiliation, such as allegations of racial profiling in which drivers are temporarily detained often for driving in certain areas or for driving certain types of cars. At worst, it includes the kinds of extreme violence we feature in this report. Each new incident involving police mistreatment of an African-American, Hispanic-American or other minority - and particularly those that receive media attention - reinforces a general belief that some residents are subjected to particularly harsh treatment and racial bias.

Since the mid-1960s, incidents of real or perceived police abuse have sparked civil unrest, including costly and violent uprisings, and a lingering distrust between racial minority communities and the police. The thirty-year-old findings of the National Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders (also known as the Kerner Commission), published in 1968, are still relevant:

Almost invariably the incident that ignites disorder arises from police action. Harlem, Watts, Newark and Detroit - all the major outbursts of recent years - were precipitated by routine arrests of Negroes by white officers for minor offenses....[T]o many Negroes police have come to symbolize white power, white racism and white repression. And the fact is that many police do reflect and express these white attitudes. The atmosphere of hostility and cynicism is reinforced by a widespread perception among Negroes of the existence of police brutality and corruption, and of a "double standard" of justice and protection - one for Negroes and one for whites.39

Virtually the same conclusions relating to police-community tensions are found in the 1991 Christopher Commission report on Los Angeles, published in the aftermath of the notorious beating of Rodney King.40 The report stated: "Within minority communities of Los Angeles, there is a widely-held view that police misconduct is commonplace. The King beating refocused public attention to long-standing complaints by African-Americans, Latinos and Asians that Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) officers frequently treat minorities differently from whites, more often using disrespectful and abusive language, employing unnecessarily intrusive practices such as the `prone-out,' and engaging in use of excessive force when dealing with minorities." 41

These tensions helped spark Los Angeles's deadly and costly April 1992 disturbances in response to the acquittals of police in the Rodney King case. Fifty-four people were killed, 2,383 injured (221 critically), and 13,212 arrested; propertydamage was estimated at more than $700 million for the county.42 In less spectacular ways around the country, tensions mount with each new incident of publicized police brutality or corruption. Yet, in predictable cycles, as new abuses come to light, police administrative or court decisions remind the public that officers often avoid penalties for human rights violations they commit.

The 1991 Christopher Commission report and the 1992 St. Clair Commission report (examining Boston's police department) show that race still plays a central role in the use of excessive force.43 The St. Clair Commission report found that during the period studied, 50 percent of complainants in the sample group were African-American, while 26 percent of Boston's population was African-American.44 The impetus for the St. Clair report was the Stuart case, in which a white man reportedly murdered his pregnant wife and diverted suspicion by claiming the assailant had been a black man. His allegation led to round-ups and harassment of African-American men and to outrage once the truth was discovered, with many claiming a double standard.

The Christopher Commission in Los Angeles "also found that the problem of excessive force is aggravated by racism and bias...."45 The report described a survey finding that 25 percent of 650 officers responding agreed: "racial bias (prejudice) on the part of officers toward minority citizens currently exists and contributes to a negative interaction between police and the community....[and more than 25 percentagreed that] an officer's prejudice towards the suspect's race may lead to the use of excessive force."46 The report stated that the Los Angeles Police Department had practices and procedures conducive to discriminatory treatment and officer misconduct directed to members of minority groups. Witnesses repeatedly reported that officers verbally harassed minorities, detained African-American and Latino men who fit certain generalized descriptions of suspects, employed unnecessarily invasive or humiliating tactics in minority neighborhoods, and used excessive force.47

Each of the cities examined in this study has had serious abuse problems that have exacerbated racial tensions, including the May 1991 Mt. Pleasant (Washington, D.C.) uprising after an African-American officer, Angela Jewell, shot Salvadoran Daniel Enrique Gómez; the September 1997 alleged beating of African-American Jeremiah Mearday by white Chicago police officers; the January 1995 videotaped beating of African-American Corey West in Providence, R.I. by a white officer; or the July 1996 fatal shooting of African-American Nathaniel Gaines, Jr., who was unarmed, by white New York City Transit Officer Paolo Colecchia on a subway platform.

Recent, widely publicized cases highlight the way perceived instances of abuse can ignite a racially-charged atmosphere. In St. Petersburg, Florida, a white police officer, Jim Knight, shot and killed a black motorist, eighteen-year-old TyRon Lewis, on October 24, 1996. The officer claimed that Lewis's vehicle had lunged toward him.48 The shooting sparked rioting in a portion of the city, with twenty people arrested and eleven injured; two dozen buildings were destroyed or heavily damaged, at a cost estimated at $5 million. Three weeks later, rioting erupted again just hours after a grand jury declined to indict Officer Knight. Several citizens were injured, and an officer was shot in the leg; some one hundred more arson fires were set in houses and stores, causing an estimated $1 million in damages.49 City officials claimed that the second round of rioting was "calculated" and led by a militant blackgroup. But a subsequent investigation by the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights pointed to a "clique within the Police Department with a significant pattern of misconduct" as the primary problem between the police and community.50 On November 13, the day of the second round of violence in St. Petersburg, a similar scenario played itself out in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. White police Officer Jon Vojtas was acquitted by an all-white jury in the killing of black motorist Jonny Gammage in Brentwood, a predominantly white Pittsburgh suburb. Following the acquittal, there was a protest outside the courtroom, with chants reminiscent of the King case, "No justice, no peace."51 Vojtas later returned to the Brentwood police force.

Gammage had been driving in Brentwood in October 1995 when police officers pulled him over, claiming that he had been driving erratically. In a struggle with five officers after he emerged from his car, Gammage was subdued as officers pressed on his back and neck, suffocating him. He died at the scene. The case drew unusual attention because the victim was the cousin of a Pittsburgh Steelers football player, Ray Seals, a local celebrity, and he had been driving Seals's car at the time of the encounter. The trials of two other officers involved in the incident ended in mistrials in 1996 and 1997. 52

Similarly, the October 1996 acquittal of New York City police Officer Francis X. Livoti on charges of negligent homicide in the death of Anthony Baez, of Puerto Rican descent, sparked protests and led to heightened tensions and police alerts around the 46th Precinct in the Bronx, where Livoti was stationed. After the verdict, Baez's parents stated, "We learned that for Latinos and blacks, justice is not equal."53
 
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I imagine per capita the brutality would be more towards minoritys. Like I said though I would bet overall, and in large part due to population numbers, that White people have more complaints of Police brutality. Also like I said race should have nothing to do with police brutality. If it is racial motivated that is one thing, but you see more and more, pigs abusing their power against all races and sexes. It almost backfires on you if you are white, cuzz its not a media story if a white cop beats a white kid, or a black cop beats a black kid. My point being that this is not something that only happens to select people. It happens to everyone of every race,sex,age, etc.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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BigE916WRM said:
I imagine per capita the brutality would be more towards minoritys. Like I said though I would bet overall, and in large part due to population numbers, that White people have more complaints of Police brutality.
I don't believe that, but maybe you're right, I will look up the statistics tommorow in school.

You said per capita brutality will favor minorities, thats all that really matters and it shows that brutality happens more among minorities.
 
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"There lawyer did a lot of talking and he says that this attack was racially motivated because one of the cops called the dad a nigger"
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There were about 5 cops and if I remember right about two of them were black. So I'm not to sure if that would be accurate....otherwise those two cops would of been some bitches for letting them say that and not mind.
 

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Police have entirely too much power in this day and age.

the only way to end racial profiling and police brutality is to have camera men at every routine stop and drug bust.

since this will never happen it will never end.

portland police have a very unsavory reputation for breaking arms on routine calls and beating the shit outta faggots for no reason when they off duty.

either way its all bad but you know how i look at it. basically

FUCCC A FILTHY PIG!!

and carma is a batch

that is all
 
May 9, 2002
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Yall ever heard of that one Dude that wanted to become a Cop (in LA I think) but couldnt join cuz his IQ was too High?


im sure there's some articles on the net about that Shit

Shows that Cops are Dumb and easy to be manipulated...trained Assholes of all Races on a Power Trip
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Hit The Blunt said:
"There lawyer did a lot of talking and he says that this attack was racially motivated because one of the cops called the dad a nigger"
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There were about 5 cops and if I remember right about two of them were black. So I'm not to sure if that would be accurate....otherwise those two cops would of been some bitches for letting them say that and not mind.
One of them was black and the other was a Latino....
 
May 21, 2002
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SaVelli said:
Yall ever heard of that one Dude that wanted to become a Cop (in LA I think) but couldnt join cuz his IQ was too High?
Connecticut Police applicant files federal lawsuit -- told he was 'too smart'
Associated Press, 05/30/97 08:41
NEW HAVEN, Conn. (AP) - A city that doesn't want police officers with ``too high an IQ'' has been sued by an applicant who was refused a job because of his high score on an intelligence test.

In a complaint filed this week in U.S. District Court in New Haven, Robert Jordan claims the city of New London discriminated against him based on his intelligence and violated his constitutional rights.

Jordan says Assistant City Manager Keith Harrigan, who oversees hiring for the city, told him: ``We don't like to hire people that have too high an IQ to be cops in this city.''

The lawsuit describes Jordan's elimination as an applicant as ``irrational, arbitrary and capricious.''

The city's attorney, Ralph J. Monaco, declined to comment, saying he had not yet seen the lawsuit. Harrigan, a defendant in the lawsuit, also declined to comment.

Jordan, 46, seeks injunctions against the city that would stop the alleged discrimination and unspecified compensatory and punitive damages.

Monaco and the city's deputy police chief, William C. Gavitt, have said in the past that candidates who score too high could tire of police work and leave not long after undergoing costly academy training. The city spends an estimated $25,000 to train a police officer.

Jordan scored a 33 on the intelligence exam, described as a short-form IQ test that measures a person's ability to learn and solve problems. Following a policy in place for at least five years, New London police only interviewed candidates who scored from 20 to 27.

The average score nationally for police officers, as well as general office workers, bank tellers and salespeople, is 21 to 22.
 

PLOT

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Tenkamenin said:


Do you watch cops?

I've seen black cops tackle some white guys HARD for being out of line or hit them if they were trying to resist arrest, and vice versa and I've seen the same with white cops. No problem they are doing there job. But the difference between what happens on the cops show and what happened a couple days ago was that this young black teenager was not out of line, the cop was clearly misusing his powers. After the young black brotha got slammed to the car he got some unnecessary blows to the head and even choked by his necklace.

Force is use to restrain it is not use to punish, and if a black cop did that to a white guy it would be on TV. How could it not?
what are you talking about he wasnt out of line? what do you know about what happened.....NOTHING! all you saw was a 5 second tape... maybe if would of even bothered of looked a little deeper, you would see the the cop was hit by him and was cut and bleeding above his ear.......if i was a cop and some punk hit and cut me, i would have done the same exact thing....cops are human, if they are assulted, they get mad and hit back, like anyone else......
 

M-PHIVE

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IM NOT JUSTIPHYING THE COPS BEATIN THIS KID BUT SOMETHING HAPPENED CUZ ONE OPH THE COPS WAS BLEEDIN PHROM THE SIDE OPH HIS HEAD, NOW YOU KNOW THEY DID SOMETHING TO GET THEM COPS TO PHUC WITH THEM, BUT HE SHOULDNT HAVE SOCCED HIM WHEN HE WAS HAND CUPHED ON THE CAR, ESPECIALLY A 16 YR OLD KID...ABA
 
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PLOT said:


what are you talking about he wasnt out of line? what do you know about what happened.....NOTHING! all you saw was a 5 second tape... maybe if would of even bothered of looked a little deeper, you would see the the cop was hit by him and was cut and bleeding above his ear.......if i was a cop and some punk hit and cut me, i would have done the same exact thing....cops are human, if they are assulted, they get mad and hit back, like anyone else......
NO what are you talking about?

I looked deeper and I saw what happened.

So your justifying the cop slamming him to the car and punching him while he was in handcuffs? Whats wrong with you? What about when the Cop choked him by his necklace? You justify all that? Thats ludicris...once the guy is in hand cuffs DO YOUR JOB AND ACT PROFESSIONAL...Did you see how big the cop was?

You wouldn't last on the job with that stupid attitude. We don't need that type of police on the streets.
 
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Aight I gotta get a word in.. just realized ppl post in this 1

Shea dawg u r waaaay 2 quick to always say "it happens to white ppl" if u would stop jumping to that conclusion u would hear that my boy is not arguing that but the BIG difference is that black and latin cats get an ass whoopin cuz of their color.. So yeah when it happens to a white cat I doubt it cuz he is white.. and the minute anyone ever sees a white cat gettin beat like hell by the police the way black men do there will be an immediate reform in police policy nation wide!!!!

Face it when it happens to white ppl it hits home and action is taken but when its a black or latin cat no 1 really cares enough to shake things up from the top down.. look @ the freedom riders that's all i have to say!

To the ppl who feel for the cops..
Mann getting hurt is apart of the job and u are supposed to hold back your feelings and not do that kind of shit.. who knows maybe the kid hit the cop once he started gettin his ass beat.. we dont know the whole story.... If you cant control your emotions u just dont need 2 be a cop and its as simple as that.. the sad thing about ppl who want to be police is they are mostly ppl who like to boss ppl around cuz they were punked their whole life lol

I had to come back up my boy not cuz he's my boy but because I agree with what he's saying...
 

PLOT

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Tenkamenin said:


NO what are you talking about?

I looked deeper and I saw what happened.

So your justifying the cop slamming him to the car and punching him while he was in handcuffs? Whats wrong with you? What about when the Cop choked him by his necklace? You justify all that? Thats ludicris...once the guy is in hand cuffs DO YOUR JOB AND ACT PROFESSIONAL...Did you see how big the cop was?

You wouldn't last on the job with that stupid attitude. We don't need that type of police on the streets.
it is compl;etely justified in my eyes!! it's called COMMON SENSE! If you stick your hand in a alligators mouth, you may lose it.......if you tell Mike Tyson to go fuck himself, he'll probaly fuck you...... if you think your a little bad ass and decide to punch a cop when your surrounded by other cops.....you ASK TO GET BEAT!!!!!! PERIOD!!!! No matter what race of whoever you are/think you are.........

and secondly, I will also add that all of the people with the BIGGEST mouths on claiming brutality are the TRUE RASCISTS....

you dont give a fuck about the kid who got hit..... you could care less......ot gets you people stirred up is seeing the WHITE DEVIL grab THE "YOUNG BLACK BROTHA" and punch him..............YES......... what stirs you up is the sight of the WHITE DEVIL punching the poor innocent "YOUNG BLACK BROTHA" and it just makes your heart and mind boil over with hate........it is so easy to see through that shield that you dont even realise..........just say it sraight up, FUCK THE WHITEY, quit beatin around the bush, your true hatred is always exposed at times like these
 

PLOT

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now dont get me wrong, if this kid did or said nothing at all wrong,and was hit like that, i would be just as pissed as the rest, but that is not the case