Anger, Madness or The Hole

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Since everybody on here heard KOD for the first time yesterday (pshht) and has had enough time for it to sink in, I thought I'd ask...

Which section to you like the least? Which the best?



I'm thinking I like The Hole better than Anger. Two completely different moods, but both are obviously a result of the same pain. I like the way the album is structured so that Anger leads up to Madness...

...but frankly I could do without most of the songs in the Madness section.

- I think the songs here are indicative of Tech's creativity and songwriting ability. Dope artistically, but...
- I simply can't relate to the songs. As a feminist and advocate against gender violence, In The Trunk (and the other songs in this section save Horns) teeters a tad too close to the side of uncomfortable for me. Misogyny is par for the course in rap (or American society for that matter), but choking and "torturing" (and cannibalism) are a bit left field for me.​

My favorite songs - Low and K.O.D. - are in The Hole, so it stands to reason I like that section the best. Though it's another song about Tech's relationship with women, Killing You is introspective enough that it shows Tech struggling with how he treats women...something missing on, say, Hunterish.



One man's opinion. Thoughts?
 
twicked

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I gotta agree. I'm not a feminist by any means but I think Low, KOD, Pinnocchio and the tracks from that section are more relate-able. Dark but the point of beggin for forgivess and showin that he's only human and exposing his weaknesses.

Generally, great part of the album. Hunterish I'm not a big fan of but the hook grows on ya, lol.

Shadows on the Road is excellent as well.
 
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Identity is pretty much on point. Me I like the dark shit in madness, but its what I would be uncomfortable with playing around new listeners or females (ones you got to throw in the trunk). I thought the album flowed very well together from section to section and how you can really feel the mood portrayed for whatever the song is. Techs emotion this time around really showed through as it was suppose to.

MADNESS and the HOLE I play straight through
 
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Anger is really dope, Madness is just sick i can go for that with certain moods and The Hole gets you through a depressed phase which is dope too....

I can't pick because of the sections vary and go great with certain moods.
 
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Not gonna lie, love the whole album from beginning to end, some songs are better than others but there none I skip when it's on shuffle and I've been non stop listening to it since Wednesday (don't worry Tech, I pre-ordered the album weeks ago, I just couldn't wait) and I have yet to grow tired of it at all

But as for what sections are the best? I'd have to say the album gets better and better as it progresses, I like the features on it but I think most of the best tracks are the ones with just Tech (and Kali) on them, Madness and The Hole are the best sections, and from "It Was An Accident" all the way to the end are the best tracks on the whole album, especially culminating to K.O.D. and finishing off with the Martini

I loved the album structure and how they ended it talking about how Brian Dennis died then having Kali sing the credits, I had no idea that was how Brian Dennis died, that shit is fucked up, I thought he just got shot gang bangin or somethin, regardless though the whole album is a BEAUTIFUL piece of art and soul...or soul devouring...idk depends on how you wanna look at it

It is indeed very dark and I could understand how some might be offended or even disturbed by it, but that's a huge part of what makes it so great, Tech held back NOTHING on this album, it's by far his most raw, gutter, emotional album and is at this point, probably my favorite album, THE BEAST HAS EVOLVED, every time I wonder how Tech and the Strange crew could do better and yet they always build further upon already well established excellence/perfection
 
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best overall IMO is The Hole

but it all really depends on the mood, and how loud u plan on listening haha


Anger is dope, cant get enough of show me a god and demons....madness is dope, in the trunk is hella funny, and theres a couple other really good songs

but The Hole is crazy. the way the song KOD is put together is ridiculous, the story telling on the martini is dope, leave me alone is dope

my favorite tech n9ne album.
 
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scolex89

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the hole. i've never been that into techs sex songs but the ones on k.o.d. came from a different angle which made them better. i agree with the op about the mysogyny though. the part where he takes the chick out and slaps her in trunk was unnecessary and is gonna keep me from playing the song for 99% of my friends. you can say how the songs a metaphor for the industry all you want but no one i know will cosign slapping a woman. the same with the end of pauls verse.

which brings me to another point, on kod it seems like there's less filler tracks than usual, which is awesome, but stupid filler verses ruin some great songs on here for me. i loved horns until i heard king gordy's verse. that was so stupid and out of place i think i'm just gonna cut it out completely for the version on my ipod.
 
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scolex89 said:
the hole. i've never been that into techs sex songs but the ones on k.o.d. came from a different angle which made them better. i agree with the op about the mysogyny though. the part where he takes the chick out and slaps her in trunk was unnecessary and is gonna keep me from playing the song for 99% of my friends. you can say how the songs a metaphor for the industry all you want but no one i know will cosign slapping a woman. the same with the end of pauls verse.

which brings me to another point, on kod it seems like there's less filler tracks than usual, which is awesome, but stupid filler verses ruin some great songs on here for me. i loved horns until i heard king gordy's verse. that was so stupid and out of place i think i'm just gonna cut it out completely for the version on my ipod.
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Who cares it's a song, your just a bitch if your going to get all upset over Tech saying he slapped a women on an obviously fictional song.
 
TheRealGX

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the hole > madness > anger

but great from start to finish. I was talking to somebody else the other day about this and we both agreed that this is tech's first album since Everready. That every other release just seems like a compilation of songs, where this feels like it was wrote under one solid theme. KOD has something that MLK, Killer and Sickology all seemed to be missing, the extreme amount of attention to detail Tech put in Anghellic, AP, and ER.

At first I thought I liked this a lot because of the darkness of the album, but I think it has to do a lot more with the general effort and attention to detail.
 
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scolex89

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Drewww said:
Who cares it's a song, your just a bitch if your going to get all upset over Tech saying he slapped a women on an obviously fictional song.
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i'm not mad and i still like the song, it just ruins the songs playability for me in the presence of others, which i think is a shame for something that could have easily not been included. leaving the slapping sound out wouldn't have taken away from the song any but leaving it in takes away from the potential audience.
 
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Dissidence777

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Drewww said:
Who cares it's a song, your just a bitch if your going to get all upset over Tech saying he slapped a women on an obviously fictional song.
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Lol you ain't know? Sleeping Beauty was based on true events, Tech keeps everything he says TRUE TO LIFE

Oh and TheRealGX you bring up a good point, I never thought of it that way, at least not about Killer, I know MLK and Sickology truly are just a compilation of collabos, and I expected them to be, but you kinda are right about Killer, it's GREAT but a lot of it does seem to be a ton of songs with random people

Although it is kinda structured, no where near the level K.O.D. is
 
identity-x

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tech nn9ne brings ups a good point. anger is driving music...demons, b-boy, strange music box all slap. even check yo temperature, which is the only song on the CD i skip because I think it's bland (whereas the others i might skip for the aforementioned reasons

Drewww said:
Who cares it's a song, your just a bitch if your going to get all upset over Tech saying he slapped a women on an obviously fictional song.
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it's funny...in criticizing someone who dares criticize a work of art, you employ the same masculine posturing that leads thousands of men to slap their significant others. like we don't know it's fictional or something

personally, I think questioning someone's masculinity is a "bitch move".
 
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