How is that a loss? No one is trying to win anything.
I don't debate for fun, I actually try to learn something. In this case, I learned nothing other than the great lengths overweight people will go to justify their unhealthy lifestyle.
I had a fat guy tell me yesterday that snicker bars are not considered junk because there are no trans fats in that. After he just wolfed down 4 pieces of cake (no exaggeration, 4 pieces, someones bday at work). I mean, they will say anything to justify what they do. I do things that are unhealthy for me, but at least I am intelligent enough to admit it.