AFRICAN MEXICANS
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i remember seeing on t.v. some documentary claiming whites from the lost city of atlantis created or helped create all them pyramids in egypt and other places ...like if non whites were too stupid to creat something without help,some people even say aliens had a hand in it...so the theories are endless...
about black mexicans ? i aint got a problem with them
about olmecs bieng black or influenced by blacks (africans) or zapata bieng half black or dumb shit like that,i think is load of crap..like i said above.its a theory,and theres just as many theories saying something diffrent...thats just my opinion and it aint gonna change,like said above our ancestors were too dumb to create anything,it had to be aliens,people of atlantis,asains,indians(india) now africans to show them the way, is joke to me ...and that opinion aint gonna change because somebody posted some links...
about olmecs bieng black or influenced by blacks (africans) or zapata bieng half black or dumb shit like that,i think is load of crap..like i said above.its a theory,and theres just as many theories saying something diffrent...thats just my opinion and it aint gonna change,like said above our ancestors were too dumb to create anything,it had to be aliens,people of atlantis,asains,indians(india) now africans to show them the way, is joke to me ...and that opinion aint gonna change because somebody posted some links...
Early theories attributing Mesoamerican civilization to lost civilizations continue to deprive Native Americans of their cultural legacy today.
http://jcolavito.tripod.com/lostcivilizations/id23.html
http://jcolavito.tripod.com/lostcivilizations/id23.html
WICCED,
YOU'RE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION, BUT THAT DON'T MEAN IT'S BASED ON FACTS, CAUSE YOU gONNA WANNA BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANNA BELIEVE. THERE IS PROOF THAT THE OLMECS HAD BLAK IN THEM(NOT SAYIN' THAT THEY WAS ALL BLAK). IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS, DEBUNK THE INFO PRESENTED.
ALSO, IT IS ESTIMATED THAT 2/3 OF MEXICANS HAVE BLAK BLOOD RUNNIN' THRU THEY VEINS BUT ARE IgNORANT TO THE FACT CAUSE OF THE RACIST NATURE IN THAT SOCIETY AND CULTURE. THE SPANISH CASTE SYSTEM ASSURED THAT. WHAT YOU THINK OF THAT?
YOU'RE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION, BUT THAT DON'T MEAN IT'S BASED ON FACTS, CAUSE YOU gONNA WANNA BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANNA BELIEVE. THERE IS PROOF THAT THE OLMECS HAD BLAK IN THEM(NOT SAYIN' THAT THEY WAS ALL BLAK). IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS, DEBUNK THE INFO PRESENTED.
ALSO, IT IS ESTIMATED THAT 2/3 OF MEXICANS HAVE BLAK BLOOD RUNNIN' THRU THEY VEINS BUT ARE IgNORANT TO THE FACT CAUSE OF THE RACIST NATURE IN THAT SOCIETY AND CULTURE. THE SPANISH CASTE SYSTEM ASSURED THAT. WHAT YOU THINK OF THAT?
I'd say it's less about lack of pride in oneself than an internal colonialism complex that still has not left Mexico to this day. What color are the actors on Mexican TV? How in touch with indigenous Mexica is Mexican music? Shit, it wasn't until Chalino that music that even hinted at poverty, struggles, or the reality of life for most Mexicans even got played on the radio. WHen talking about Mexico's third Black root, you're talking about something that *may* or *may not* be in what, a third of mexicans? What about their own Mexica blood that they have not yet recognized? Mexican TV is full of gavachos and novellas that have nothing to do with reality. Much Mexican media is nothing more than escapism. You're asking people to come to terms with something that *may* be a part of them when they haven't even come to terms with the most basic elements of their own nature.
This is somewhat leading. How many Mexicans definitely *have* a black root? There were what, somewhere between 1 to 10 milllion indigenous Mexicans at times when the black population slowly decreased from 1500 to 1750...and there were between 15 to 50 thousand Blacks in Mexico at that time, their numbers slowly decreasing over the years.
I'm sure you could possibly find 15 thousand whites for every million blacks in many nations of Africa. (1.5% of the population)
Does this mean that Africans will have a second white root in a hundred years? I don't think anyone would make that argument. Why is this situation different?
Very true. Especially in Mexico.
The environment I was speaking of is among American Academia. Racism is profound and exists on a large scale in Mexico...of this there is no doubt.
This is somewhat leading. How many Mexicans definitely *have* a black root? There were what, somewhere between 1 to 10 milllion indigenous Mexicans at times when the black population slowly decreased from 1500 to 1750...and there were between 15 to 50 thousand Blacks in Mexico at that time, their numbers slowly decreasing over the years.
I'm sure you could possibly find 15 thousand whites for every million blacks in many nations of Africa. (1.5% of the population)
Does this mean that Africans will have a second white root in a hundred years? I don't think anyone would make that argument. Why is this situation different?
Very true. Especially in Mexico.
The environment I was speaking of is among American Academia. Racism is profound and exists on a large scale in Mexico...of this there is no doubt.
Also, I believe that article is a bit of a stretch.
Because corridos are sung in Costa Chica, Black folks must have invented them?
"The corridos reflect oral traditions inherited from Africa. The words are improvised, and a corrido that brings applause is apt to be committed to memory, to be sung again and again as an oral chronicle of local life. The lyrics are also rich in symbols, a tradition that may have started when singers among the first slaves invented "code words" to protest the cruelties of their masters."
So black folks have a monopoly on symbolism? If something is symbolic, and oral, it came from Africa?
Mexico's literacy rate was probably less than 15 percent until the 1800s. (Most countries were functionally illiterate until the Industrial Revolution)
The fact that they pass on oral stories is proof of an African connection? This seems a pretty far reach for me.
Because corridos are sung in Costa Chica, Black folks must have invented them?
"The corridos reflect oral traditions inherited from Africa. The words are improvised, and a corrido that brings applause is apt to be committed to memory, to be sung again and again as an oral chronicle of local life. The lyrics are also rich in symbols, a tradition that may have started when singers among the first slaves invented "code words" to protest the cruelties of their masters."
So black folks have a monopoly on symbolism? If something is symbolic, and oral, it came from Africa?
Mexico's literacy rate was probably less than 15 percent until the 1800s. (Most countries were functionally illiterate until the Industrial Revolution)
The fact that they pass on oral stories is proof of an African connection? This seems a pretty far reach for me.
YES THIER ARE MEXICANS WITH BLACK BLOOD IN THEM BUT THIER NUMBERS ARE SMALL,TO SAY EVERY MEXICAN HAS BLACK BLOOD IN THEM IS RIDICULOUS...JUST BECAUSE YOU SAW THAT ON SOME BULLSHIT BOOK OR SOME LINK ON IN THE INTERNET SPEWING THAT PIONT OF VIEW,DONT MAKE IT TRUE OR FACTUAL,AND TO SAY MEXICANS AINT INDIGENOUS TO THIS LAND IS ANOTHER LAUGHER,I GUESS WE JUST FELL FROM THE SKY AND MAGICLY APPEARED..
AND TO CALL OUR ANCESTORS "AZTECS" A TRIBE IS ALSO RIDICULOUS WE WERE A NATION THAT INFLUENCED PEOPLE FROM NORTH AMERICA ALL THE WAY DOWN TO CENTRAL AMERICA INCLUDING SMALL WANDERING TRIBES..WE WERE NOT TRIBAL WE WERE URBAN,WITH ONE OF THE BIGGEST METROPLIS IN THE AMERICAS.WE LIVED IN CITIES NOT HUTS OR CAVES..
YES MOST OF OUR ANCESTORS WERE MURDERED AND OUR GENE POOL POLLUTED BUT THIER CULTURE & PRIDE STILL LIVES ON WITH THE US (MEXICANS) TODAY WHICH WE CHOSE TO IDENTIFY WITH & EMBRACE..AND THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE,NO MATTER HOW HARD THEY TRY TO MINIMIZE OUR HISTORY WITH HIS-STORY..WE ARE NOT THE ILLEGAL BORDER JUMPERS THAT CROSSED THE ATLANTIC OCEAN,NO MATTER HOW HARD THEY TRY TO CHANGE HISTORY TO BENIFIT THIER PIONT OF VIEW...
BOTTOM LINE BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANNA BELIEVE,ITS YOUR RIGHT..
AND TO CALL OUR ANCESTORS "AZTECS" A TRIBE IS ALSO RIDICULOUS WE WERE A NATION THAT INFLUENCED PEOPLE FROM NORTH AMERICA ALL THE WAY DOWN TO CENTRAL AMERICA INCLUDING SMALL WANDERING TRIBES..WE WERE NOT TRIBAL WE WERE URBAN,WITH ONE OF THE BIGGEST METROPLIS IN THE AMERICAS.WE LIVED IN CITIES NOT HUTS OR CAVES..
YES MOST OF OUR ANCESTORS WERE MURDERED AND OUR GENE POOL POLLUTED BUT THIER CULTURE & PRIDE STILL LIVES ON WITH THE US (MEXICANS) TODAY WHICH WE CHOSE TO IDENTIFY WITH & EMBRACE..AND THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE,NO MATTER HOW HARD THEY TRY TO MINIMIZE OUR HISTORY WITH HIS-STORY..WE ARE NOT THE ILLEGAL BORDER JUMPERS THAT CROSSED THE ATLANTIC OCEAN,NO MATTER HOW HARD THEY TRY TO CHANGE HISTORY TO BENIFIT THIER PIONT OF VIEW...
BOTTOM LINE BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANNA BELIEVE,ITS YOUR RIGHT..