According to reports Abu Musab al-Zarqawi has been killed.
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Agreed. He probably never existed. There probably is no insurgency, just two sides of the US army fighting each other in order for Bush to get a same-sex marriage ban passed.
The orders for this whole setup (invade a country, create an insurgency as well as a US response) came from Bill Clinton during a Satanic ritual behind an Ihop in Wichita.
The orders for this whole setup (invade a country, create an insurgency as well as a US response) came from Bill Clinton during a Satanic ritual behind an Ihop in Wichita.
^^ You act like taking out the #2 known terrorist in the world was a waste of time and effort.
Tangents isn't what matters here. Being simple-minded and not seeing the bigger picture is the issue.
And what about it? It's your standard Bush Admin hit piece, meant to minimize the accomplishments and downplay the achievements.
Tangents isn't what matters here. Being simple-minded and not seeing the bigger picture is the issue.
And what about it? It's your standard Bush Admin hit piece, meant to minimize the accomplishments and downplay the achievements.
Never existed. Iraqi's scientists did actually send Saddam fake reports in order to get "funding" which went into their own houses, cars, etc.
And Dirty Shoez, there is very reliable info that Zarqawi:
1. Was not respected among the insurgency
2. Was considered an idiot in his own town
3. Likely did not call the shots or pull the strings of his own operation.
The whole US press blitz about this event is in the same vein as the "Mission Accomplished, Thanksgiving Turkey, and Jennifer Lynch" comedies.
And Dirty Shoez, there is very reliable info that Zarqawi:
1. Was not respected among the insurgency
2. Was considered an idiot in his own town
3. Likely did not call the shots or pull the strings of his own operation.
The whole US press blitz about this event is in the same vein as the "Mission Accomplished, Thanksgiving Turkey, and Jennifer Lynch" comedies.
^^ The tone. The adverbs. Please do not waste my time baiting me into a quote war.
Crack--It's whats for dinner.
Request: Articles from 2+ years ago that say this. -- Articles from 1-3 months ago or more recent will NOT do the trick.
I won't be petty and ask if you read Arabic, but it would indeed be better to read articles written by Arabs, and not American journalists.
Crack--It's whats for dinner.
Request: Articles from 2+ years ago that say this. -- Articles from 1-3 months ago or more recent will NOT do the trick.
I won't be petty and ask if you read Arabic, but it would indeed be better to read articles written by Arabs, and not American journalists.
Baiting you into a quote war would actually be a waste of my time, but if I wanted to openly call you out and draw mass attention to your opinions I would do so. I am not out to get you, I am simply asking why you felt the article was a hit piece. You said tone and adverbs, but I don't see how the tone and adverbs contained in the article coincide with your views. No need to explain...
I was under the impression that the population of the Americas pre-European contact was estimated at between 25-50 million...
The US is not a singular entity. Killing a random person is not justified by the previous actions of another unrelated person.
If you really believed this, how could humans ever end the cycle of violence that would be “justified” by past transgressions?
What happens after we receive what we "deserve", and millions of people (or however many you feel would be justified) die? Do we not then have a right to inflict some sort of retribution upon whoever attacked us? And then those people back upon us; and so on..
The US is not a singular entity. Killing a random person is not justified by the previous actions of another unrelated person.
If you really believed this, how could humans ever end the cycle of violence that would be “justified” by past transgressions?
What happens after we receive what we "deserve", and millions of people (or however many you feel would be justified) die? Do we not then have a right to inflict some sort of retribution upon whoever attacked us? And then those people back upon us; and so on..
I've also read the number is around 100 million (you have to take into account the Caribbean, Mexico and Canada).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_American_indigenous_peoples
I'm sure you can find more in-depth data then what wiki has to offer.
Historian David Stannard has argued that "The destruction of the Indians of the Americas was, far and away, the most massive act of genocide in the history of the world." Like Ward Churchill, Stannard believes that the natives of the Americas were deliberately and systematically exterminated over the course of several centuries, and that the process continues to the present day. Stannard estimates that almost 100 million American indigenous people have been killed what he calls the American Holocaust.[16]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_American_indigenous_peoples
I'm sure you can find more in-depth data then what wiki has to offer.
For the good of the forum, and because I often speak of Adverbs and the importance of their proper usage, as well as composition overall, I will happily supply you with a few examples. Perhaps I was being a bit curt, or unfair even.
"The U.S. military is conducting a propaganda campaign to magnify the role of the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, according to internal military documents and officers familiar with the program."
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"George W. Bush is a raving lunatic, a liar and a war criminal....according to documents obtained from Al Jazeera."
-- Get your attention by setting the bar as high as possible (this is meant to be a NEWS article, mind you, not an opinion piece)....hope nobody reads into your bullshit.
We will continue.
"The effort has raised his profile in a way that some military intelligence officials believe may have overstated his importance and helped the Bush administration tie the war to the organization responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks."
"Believe"..."May have"...only thing worse is when you combine the two together. Either you believe something or you don't, and when you need to string that many things together, you're obviously bullshitting and seeing things the way you want others to see them, and not the way they ought to be conveyed.
"Helped"......that was just pathetic. Find another verb that isn't so weak and childish, one that doesn't leave so many outs.
"For the past two years, U.S. military leaders have been using Iraqi media and other outlets in Baghdad to publicize Zarqawi's role in the insurgency. The documents explicitly list the "U.S. Home Audience" as one of the targets of a broader propaganda campaign."
Let us briefly discuss the repeated usage of "propaganda campaign". Last I checked....that was about the only way PROPAGANDA came. The problem is that they are continually playing up the negative connotation, rather than using a more objective analysis such as "information campaign", or "anti-terrorism campaign", or so on. Their true aim here is to continue a negative slant THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PIECE, while only mixing in somewhat unbiased observations here and there to keep the overall flow going.
This is only among the first few pieces of the article, and we are not impressed. The word propaganda appears 9 times.....there is simply no excuse for it.
The above analysis took around 15 minutes or less. Imagine if I put a good 2 hours into this, and I'm not even trained in this kind of shit.
I repeat:
Catching the #2 terrorist in the world IS IMPORTANT, whether he DESERVED that ranking or not.
Just as POSESSION is 9/10ths of the Law...PERCEPTION IS 9/10THS OF REALITY!
"The U.S. military is conducting a propaganda campaign to magnify the role of the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, according to internal military documents and officers familiar with the program."
==
"George W. Bush is a raving lunatic, a liar and a war criminal....according to documents obtained from Al Jazeera."
-- Get your attention by setting the bar as high as possible (this is meant to be a NEWS article, mind you, not an opinion piece)....hope nobody reads into your bullshit.
We will continue.
"The effort has raised his profile in a way that some military intelligence officials believe may have overstated his importance and helped the Bush administration tie the war to the organization responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks."
"Believe"..."May have"...only thing worse is when you combine the two together. Either you believe something or you don't, and when you need to string that many things together, you're obviously bullshitting and seeing things the way you want others to see them, and not the way they ought to be conveyed.
"Helped"......that was just pathetic. Find another verb that isn't so weak and childish, one that doesn't leave so many outs.
"For the past two years, U.S. military leaders have been using Iraqi media and other outlets in Baghdad to publicize Zarqawi's role in the insurgency. The documents explicitly list the "U.S. Home Audience" as one of the targets of a broader propaganda campaign."
Let us briefly discuss the repeated usage of "propaganda campaign". Last I checked....that was about the only way PROPAGANDA came. The problem is that they are continually playing up the negative connotation, rather than using a more objective analysis such as "information campaign", or "anti-terrorism campaign", or so on. Their true aim here is to continue a negative slant THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PIECE, while only mixing in somewhat unbiased observations here and there to keep the overall flow going.
This is only among the first few pieces of the article, and we are not impressed. The word propaganda appears 9 times.....there is simply no excuse for it.
The above analysis took around 15 minutes or less. Imagine if I put a good 2 hours into this, and I'm not even trained in this kind of shit.
I repeat:
Catching the #2 terrorist in the world IS IMPORTANT, whether he DESERVED that ranking or not.
Just as POSESSION is 9/10ths of the Law...PERCEPTION IS 9/10THS OF REALITY!