Abortions

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JoMoDo said:
Since abortions will never go away isn't it better for a medical professional to administer the procedure rather than a self induced operation with a coat hanger.

Outlawing abortions will only have a malevolent affect on the indignent and struggling.
What's better is to obliterate the thought altogether that only Financially Stable, Highly Educated and Mentally Stable people should have children, because as it is, most people who are Financially Stable, HIghly Educated, and Mentally Stable DON'T WANT CHILDREN.

So when you run with that argument, really, it translates as: "Nobody should have children in the first place. But if rich people get pregnant, they should have the child, and poor people should get an abortion."

A sickening ideology if you ask me.

My favorites are pro-lifers who support the deathpenalth, that's rich right there....
We're Anti-Abortion the same way you are Pro-Peace. But that shit just don't sound right, however unfair it is, so we're called Pro-Life and you're called Anti-War.

2-0-Sixx said:
Having a child is one of the most selfish acts one can possibly do, especially if they are not financially, mentally or physically fit to properly raise a child.

People need to stop thinking about themselves for once and think of the future. Abort bitches, abort.
Sounds like someone who fears he'll never be able to get his ideals into power because of the population dynamics of younger, stupider people having more kids and tending to trust the government more than, say, middle-class white hippies who are ready to try anything, i.e., Marxism.

And then you turn around and argue Black issues and how other people are racists, like you have a leg to stand on.
 
Apr 8, 2005
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bigbreaded said:
IM ALL FOR ABORTIONS, THINK OF THE KID, LET ME ASK YAW....WHAT IF THE FATHER OF THE BABY WASN'T GOING TO BE AROUND?. WOULD YOU WANT THE KID TO LIVE A LIFE WITHOUT KNOWING WHO HIS DAD IS?. GROWING UP ALL FUCC'D UP N SHIT, NO MALE ROLE MODEL, FATHER FIGURE FOR GUIDANCE, I'D RADTHER DIE THEN LIVE MY WHOLE LIFE NOT KNOWING WHO MY OLD MAN WAS.
aight, pay attention, i grew up my entire life, no dad, i had father figures and male role models but none were my dad, and since i never had one, i wasnt loosing anything, i dont know what its like to have a dad, so its not a really fucked up situation, i in no way grew up all fucked up, and the fucked up things that i been through had nothing to do with not having my dad around, a child can live completely normal with no dad.
 
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as far as this topic goes, i think it isnt right at all to abort a child, if she cant keep the kid she can adobt the lil guy out, if she was raped she can adopt lil guy out, so basically i believe there is no reason to abort a child unless the child is indangering the mothers health, i dont even believe in mothers findin their kids have brain damage, then aporting um, thats fucked up on another level.

another thing, i think it is fucked up females are given the ability to kill children in the first place. scott peterson i think was his name, got 2 accounts of murder, one being the unborn child, but if the mother wanted to let a docter kill it, it would be legal, WTF is all that?
 
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I have no idea how you derived this....


Dirty Shoez said:
What's better is to obliterate the thought altogether that only Financially Stable, Highly Educated and Mentally Stable people should have children, because as it is, most people who are Financially Stable, HIghly Educated, and Mentally Stable DON'T WANT CHILDREN.

So when you run with that argument, really, it translates as: "Nobody should have children in the first place. But if rich people get pregnant, they should have the child, and poor people should get an abortion."
from this...

JoMoDo said:
Since abortions will never go away isn't it better for a medical professional to administer the procedure rather than a self induced operation with a coat hanger.

Outlawing abortions will only have a malevolent affect on the indignent and struggling.
 
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i think it is fucked up females are given the ability to kill children in the first place. scott peterson i think was his name, got 2 accounts of murder, one being the unborn child, but if the mother wanted to let a docter kill it, it would be legal, WTF is all that?
For real man, and if he'd have just made a song about it he'd be Gold on the westcoast.
 
Sep 25, 2005
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JoMoDo said:
Pro-abortion all the way, or pro-choice what ever you want to call it.

you should call it pro abortion, because you arent pro-choice. if you were prochoice you would allow parents to also have the choice of choosing charter/private schhols by way of school vouchers.


if you were also pro-choice you would also be in favor of Social security Privatization, which allows people to CHOOSE if they want some of THEIR money to go into the private sector

so i think pro abortion is more like it


JoMoDo said:
My favorites are pro-lifers who support the deathpenalth, that's rich right there....
you know, anti abortion guys like me believe an INNOCENT baby should NOT be murdered, while merdering felons if given the death penalty should be put to death.

unlike you and people who think like you that believe that INNOCENT babies SHOULD be murdered while convicted murderers should be given the chance to live.

it would be funny, if it werent so sad
 
May 13, 2002
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^^^Do you even try to make sense anymore?

Anyways, you're not killing an innocent baby if the baby has never been born. You're simply removing genetic information or a clump of instructions. If you do not want those instructions to be carried out, simply remove the genetic code. It's similar to cancer - if you don't want the cancer to grow, remove it.

With that being said, if you're anti-abortion based on religious beliefs (for example, the belief is souls), then fine, but don't force your religious beliefs onto others.

Pro-life is really Anti-choice
 
Sep 25, 2005
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thatguy said:
so basically i believe there is no reason to abort a child unless the child is indangering the mothers health,
i think it should go a bit further and only be allowed if it physically endangers the mothers LIFE.

because the term "health" can be interpreted by pro abortioners as MENTAL HEALTH and that is a major loophole that would allow abortion do go on as usual.
 
Sep 25, 2005
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2-0-Sixx said:
Anyways, you're not killing an innocent baby if the baby has never been born.
LOL.

ya just removing a clump of cells that has a heart (that is beating), and a pairs of lungs (that are breathing), 2 arms, 2 legs, eyes, mouth, nose, head, brain, stomach, liver, kidneys.
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whats the difference between killing an unborn child a week before it is born or killing it a week after it is born???
 
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LA Dodgers said:
i think it should go a bit further and only be allowed if it physically endangers the mothers LIFE.

because the term "health" can be interpreted by pro abortioners as MENTAL HEALTH and that is a major loophole that would allow abortion do go on as usual.
good point
 
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some the shit yall are sayin is heartless, i think its more selfish to kill a kid and not give him a chance at life, then to have him, and raise him on welfare or some shit, i was born into hella poverty, but if i could have the choice now to work through these struggles or just be terminated before it started, id rather work through the struggles and shit, if the mother is mentally unstable, i think they should snatch the kid up and give it to a good couple that cant have kids cause the chick cant get pregnant or sum shit like that
 
May 13, 2002
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LA Dodgers said:
LOL.

ya just removing a clump of cells that has a heart (that is beating)
Depends on when the abortion takes place.

and a pairs of lungs (that are breathing)
I didn't know lungs can breathe air while in the womb.

FYI, the fetus receives oxygen from the mothers blood by diffussion across the placenta. When the baby is born the first breaths are taken.

2 arms, 2 legs, eyes, mouth, nose, head, brain, stomach, liver, kidneys.
Again, depends on when the abortion occurs.


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whats the difference between killing an unborn child a week before it is born or killing it a week after it is born???
Obviously, one has been born while the other has not :rolleyes:
 
Sep 28, 2004
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I forgot to mention a case of the condom breaking. Sorry, I had a few other points I wanted to get out there. Sometimes protection fails. I will not dispute that. Making the right decision after such a thing has happened is on a case to case basis and for the future parents to decide. I am not supporting abortion as the answer in every case, but rather understanding the reasons that some may choose it. I would not step in their way. But as I said, if you've been getting abortion after abortion.. something is up with you. I am not a fan of abortion, and I've never been in the place to make that decision, but for some it may be their best path. For some. Not for all.
 
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Aren't abortions illegal after a certain point, anyway? I mean, you can't just have one a week before the baby is born, can you? Abortions are a part of life, they used to chuck stones at a woman's stomach in the days of dinosaurs and I'm sure sometime in the near future, they will have adapters for microwave ovens that connect directly to the womb.

Abortions are as fundamental to our society as Health Care and 401k plans. If you get rid of one of them, you'll have to do away with all them.

The only thing I disagree with, is the fact that Pro-Choice is sexist. I think the man should get first say on whether or not the baby lives, as he's financially obligated to it. I mean, it's only fair.
 
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it kills me that so many couples out there are trying desperately to have a child, while other people are getting abortions. cruel world