A PIC OF SOME FRESNO MUTTS AND SOME MORE OLD ARTWORK

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Aug 6, 2002
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Its different overhere now. Mutts are established now they are easy to tell if you are an ene from Fresno county. You can tell by their speech, they overuse the word dog. We can also tell by their clothing if you have a Fresno state gear on and you looking like a cholo it means that you are repping mutt. plus those fools have paws tatted on their ears, backs, or hands. a favorite tatt of theirs is the word FRESNO tatted in old english, but the O in FRESNO is a dogs head (the mascot of Fresno State). They throw up their varrio more likely than throwing up an "F". I dont see why the East Bay would take an "F" being thrown up over their and feel that it had something to do with Fresno, since they are so far away and since mutts arent a factor over there. I think Oso gave a story when bulldog tatts in the bay caused confusion but I dont see why the "F" would.
 
Nov 27, 2002
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They don't have anything to do wit Fresno whatsoever. They used an "F" ish type sign for Fairway and some fools thought it was Fresno but they have nothing whatsoever in common. Iam wondering if anybody else using the F-ish signs except for Fairway and Fresno, and if anybody else having trouble they don't need over it.
 
Aug 6, 2002
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like I said nobody's biz I run into mutts all the time and I have never seen them throw up the "F". If they throw something up it is an "E" for east side. 9 times out of 10 if a mutt is gonna represent they bark. I swear like at the car shows in Fresno there it sounds like bound by honor when the AVers are barking at the Onda and Bgf.
Talked to some vets today and they told me that at least in Fresno mutts really hate nortenos and scraps. I mean I get called nortonto or estrella when a mutt hits me up. They also rep their streets again like they did in the old days. and they do not all get along I mean the Park side mutts hate the East side muttts.
The sad thing is that nortenos in the smaller towns of Fresno county have a choice to make when they go to county. 1 they could go in there and admit they are nortenos and get put in lockdown. Respected nortenos do this. 2 They could deny it or not admit to it and go to general population. 3. The most disrespectful bustas turn into mutts. Overhere we call them transformers. They are the mutts of old days they are nortenos that play prison games to suit their surroundings.
Imagine that nortenos going in for putting in work for the NORTE and switching up to come out waring with NORTE. I hate those mutha fuckas more than anything.

In the year 2003 Fresno, the city, is pretty much established that if you are a mutt and under 20 you were probably not ever an ene and you probably just bang mutt cause your varrio does. They dont know of the split from norte or anything. Fuck them anyways.

Ps fuck selma, sanger, and Del Rey's varrios that went from norte to Bds.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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@FC ENE

MY QUESTION IS IF I SEE SOME FOLKS FROM FRESNO WHO DONT APPEAR TO BANG...MEANING THEY AINT G'D UP WITH THERE ATTIRE...AND THEY YELLIN........ FRESNO!......BULLDOGS!

SHOULD I CONSIDER THEM MUTTS?..OR DO PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE WHO ISNT A NORTE FROM FRESNO REP THE BULLDOG?

CUZ LIKE I SAID IN AN EARLIER POST..MY HOMEBOY'S NEIGHBORS ARE SOME FRESNO FOLKS....AND I DID HEAR UM HOLLERIN FRESNO BULLDOGS ONE NITE....BUT THEY AINT REALLY COME ACROSS AS BANGERS AT ALL....IF ANYTHING THEY LOOK LIKE EX-Sur..OR UNDERCOVER Sur...

IM TRYNA KNOW THIS CUZ THEY MOVED IN TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD

WHERE THE ONLY SET IS NORTENOS...AND SOME OG CRIPS....BUT NIETHER ARE REALLY CONSIDERED ACTIVE NEMORE(DO TO PIGS CRACKIN DOWN) BUT I DO STILL GOT HOMIES RYDIN 4 THAT AND IM PRETTY SURE THEY WOULD HAVE SOMETHIN TO SAY ABOUT THIS IF THEY KNEW IT WAZ BULLFROGS MIGRATING
 
Jul 21, 2002
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it's funny you mention that FC ENE. i was thinking today, that i don't know if i like the dogg on my name anymore, i really don't. i don't know what i would have my screen name be, and since people have been callin me that shit for years it would be wierd, but i still think i want that off of my name
 
Apr 25, 2002
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VML's? WHATS THAT? VARRIO MILPAS LOCOS?

I DONT REALLY KNOW BOUT THEM

SET IM TALKIN BOUT IS VxSxH...VARRIO SUNNY HILLS


THESE FRESO CATS AINT BANGIN THO...I DONT KNOW THERE STATUS WHEN THEY IN FRESNO..BUT HERE..THEY AINT ON THE STREETS......LIKE ITS PROLLY LIKE 4-5 GUYS..THEY JUST WORK AND COME HOME..IF MY BOY DIDNT LIVE NEXT TO THEM I WOULDNT EVEN KNOW THEY EXISTED..BUT I EVEN BEEN IN THERE PAD WHEN THIS ONE FOOL WAS LIVIN THERE...HE WAS A COO MUTHAFUCKA..WE WOULD SMOKE UP EVERY NOW AND THAN..IF ANY OF UM BANGED..IT WAS PROLLY HIM..IRONIC AS FUCK THAT THE COOLEST MUTHAFUCKA FROM THERE WAS THE MOST LIKELY TO BE BANGIN THAT BULLDOG SHIT....BUT STILL..HE NEVER ANNOUNCED IT...IF HE EVEN WAS...ALL I KNOW IS THEY WERE FROM FRESNO AND ONE NITE THEY WERE LIKE GETTIN SWERVED AND I HEARD FRESNO BULLDOGS...BUT IT SOUNDED MORE LIKE A FOOTBALL TEAM CHANT..THATS WHY I ASKED FC ENE TO CLEAR IT UP
 
Aug 6, 2002
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@Mtown all I can say is Fresno Bulldogs is kinda what ppl yell out to rep that they are from fresno. honestly squares (ppl that dont know whats up about street shit) say it to show they have pride in Fresno. What I would do though is go have a talk with them, let them know that NORTE is the varrio. And that you take it to offense (or your homies if you aint ene) and that the reason it is taken to offense is cause of the split that happened in the late 80's.
If they are squares they'll just say naw homie Im from the NO and Im just repping that. I aint got no funk with ene.

If they are mutts well you know what I'd do. Never let them spread that shit. theyll probably be like naw homie my rag and your rag are red. Fuck that their cause is not our cause in fact they are our dropouts.

I have heard of this, I really dont have hard core facts since I only have seen this once in my life. but Surenos (really cholos from the south not paisas up north) are known to become bulldogs in county jail. so who knows if they are mutts. Never let them migrate. Fuck them even if their rag is red, shit is deeper than that and never forget it.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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@FC ENE...YEA HOMIE I KINDA FIGURED THEY WERE JUST REPPIN THERE CITY...NOT TO SAY THEY PROLLY AINT AFFILIATED WITH BULLDOGS IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER

AND YEA YOU RIGHT I DONT BANG ENE....AND IM NOT ONE OF THE MANY SQUARES WHO SWEARS HE DONT RIDE BUT HIS HOMIES DO...BELIEVE THAT....I GREW UP IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD..AND IVE LIVED IN THE SAME PAD FOR GOIN ON 20YEARS..ITS FAR FROM A SAVAGE ASS HOOD...4 THE MOST PART ITS PETTY NICE..MIDDLE CLASS LIVIN...BUT REGARDLESS..IVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ALOT OF THIS SHIT..AND AS SMALL AS IT IS..ALOT OF REAL SHIT HAS GONE DOWN..U SEE MY NEIGHBORHOOD U PROLLY WOULDNT THINK SHIT EVER CRACKED HERE..BUT BELIEVE ME..I GOT A HOMEBOY WHO WAS MURDERED BY MY ENEMIES..I HAD A RIVAL WHO LIVED RITE UP THE STREET..WE FUEDED FOR YEARS AND HIS BROTHER ENDED UP SERVIN 20YEARS FOR MURDER...HOMIES BEEN CUT UP...JUMPED....LOCKED UP...ALL THIS SHIT FOR SOME NON BANGERS IN A SUBURBAN BEIGHBORHOOD...I NEVER BECAME NORTE BECUZ IM NOT HISPANIC..IM ITALIAN/IRISH...WHITEBOY....NOT TO SAY ITS WRONG TO BANG IT IF YOUR WHITE..BUT I GOT TOO MUCH RESPECT FOR MY HOMIES WHO DO..AND I COULDNT REALLY RIDE FOR THAT CAUSE KNOWIN THATS ITS MORE THAN JUST MY CITY..ITS A WHOLE MOVEMENT OUT THERE..AND IM NOT CONNECTED THRU FAMILY...OR BLOOD...PLUS THERE WAS NEVER A SINGLE ACTIVE SURENO SET AROUND HERE..SO I HAD NO NATURAL HATE TOWARDS THEM...ASIDE FORM BEING A NORTHERN CAL REPRESENTER ....BUT BELIEVE THAT I LOVE MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND JUST BASED ON THAT ALONE I WOULD RIDE WITH THE NORTE SETS AGAINST BULLDOGS....

SINCE ALL THIS BULLDOG TALK HAS BEEN COMIN UP ON HERE IVE BEEN A LIL MORE SKETCHY TOWARDS THEM FRESNO HEADS....BUT UNTIL THEY GIVE ME REASON TO BELIEVE THEY TRYNA DO SOMETHIN..IM NOT EVEN TRIPPIN
 
Aug 2, 2002
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if you confused, ask your vets and OG's....

@ Mtown Criminal....

if your hood is Norteños, and you don't know what to do about new homies in the hood, the Og's should have allready noticed their apearance....so basically:

Ask your frendly neighboor hood veterano or OG....if they the head honchos from your set you gotta holla at them to school you down.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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@CHEESY


NAW HOMIE..I THINK I MIGHT BE CONFUSIN SOME OF YOU ABOUT THE SITUATION...THESE AINT SOME CATS LIKE THE PICTURE OSO POSTED...WHO MOVED IN 5 DEEP TO THIS NORTENO HOOD....ITS LIKE 5 HISPANIC FOLKS..WHO DONT APPEAR TO BE BANGIN..I MEAN THEY DRESS LIKE COLLARD SHIRTS AND BLUE JEANS...BUT THEY YOUNG..AGE RANGE FROM 19-25....THEY HAVE LIL PARTIES AND SHIT..BEATIN OUT...BUT IT AINT AN ISSUE AS FAR AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD...IM JUST ASKIN ON A PERSONAL LEVEL..IF THESE CATS COULD POSSIBLE BE UNDERCOVER BULLDOGS...

CUZ IF THEY ARE...ID LIKE TO KNOW IN ORDER TO MAKE OUR PRESENCE FELT A LIL STRONGER SO THEY DONT GET THE WRONG IDEA..MEANING..HAVE SOME OF THE HOMIES(NORTES/NEIGHBORHOOD RYDERS) MAKE OUR PRESENCE A LIL MORE KNOWN...SO THESE CATS DONT START TRYNA SPREAD THERE SHIT OVER HERE

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@STRANGER...THATS COO HOMIE....VSH KINDA ON THE LOW LOW CUZ ALOT OF THE YOUNG GENERATIONS COULD KEEP SHIT GOIN...PLUS POLICE CRACKDOWNS...SHITS ALL ON THE LOW LOW..BUT ITS STILL THERE AND IF NECESSARY THEYLL MAKE IT KNOWN...YEA MY HOMEBOYS POPS WAZ ONE OF THE LEADERS OF VSH...GOT HIMSELF A LIL PLAQUE AND EVERYTHING
 
Dec 17, 2002
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ORALE
I actually stay in Milpas right now.
Been living there for 5 months, and
I also stayed out in Sacra for a year.
But I'm from San Jo.
Whereby do these Fresno gente stay?
You don't gotta give the address, but the
varrio is cool. Not that Milpas is all big
but you know what I mean.
My homeboys come to the chante all the time
but all we see is chinos everywhere.
 
May 17, 2002
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FUCK FRESNO MUTTS

HEY FC ENE U FORGOT TO MENTION THEM PUNK ASS MUTTS FROM PARLIER TOO.BUT ENEWAYZ I THINK BY 2005 NORTE WILL BE A STRONGER GANG DUE TO SOME ENE GANGS DEVELOPING DOWN SOUTH LIKE IN SAN DIEGO OR IN THE INLAND EMPIRE WHERE SOME HOMIES ARE CLAIMIMG NORTE BELIEVE IT OR NOT.SO ITLL ONLY BE WHILE TILL THIS FRESNO COUNTY MUTTS DISSAPEAR AND NORTE WILL BE THE MAJORITY IN CENTRAL CALI THE 559
 
Aug 6, 2002
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Damn Deebo its been a while ene I thought you werent gonna post on here N E more. I heard about parlier too, I thought that COLONIA was still ene. I know that the city part of Parlier, I think it is Varrio Parlier Loco Rifa, is mutt. too me though the fools that are mutts there are nothing but tweekers that became that cause they got locked up. Meaning they werent bangers to begin with??????? I dont know. Ive been in Fresno for a month or so and Ive meet some cool enes here. not all the town is mutt. like I said we nortenos in the area can spot one in a minute.
Enes shouldnt be so skeptical if a norteno from fresno is a mutt. I would definetly agree that you should hit up one if you were skeptical. I would get mad, like I always do, but shit thats the way it is and I would respect you if you did it. In lock down though mutts are even easier to pick out.

Ive had to help out enes from san jo and salinas in the past dinstinguish who mutts were. Meaning that I was at a car show and those enes were cruising in their rides and they pulled over and started kicking it a gas station cause there were cholos flamed up there and pit bulls with red panos on. I was with my old lady buying gas and I seen the enes get off and stand on the sidewalk and begin to record the strip. They were chopping it up with the mutts about hoes and rides. I pulled one to the side and told them that those fools were mutts, they were like what. "Naw homie they ene look at them" shit was crazy cause they started looking and realized that they were mutts. Me and my old lady were right there and we got into it with the mutts. shit was crazy a Fresno ene riding with San Jo and Salinas enes against mutts. And this was before all the Unity years. This was like in 96 or 97. Cant really remember their names or their car club name cause we did our thang and had to flee the scene.

@ chrisdogg14
I dont think that you should drop the name cause of bulldogs. That shit isnt a factor outside of the 559. I personally looked at it when I started posting here and was like tripping on it till I saw salinas next to your name. I mean if you dont like it cause you just dont like it then thats a different story.
 
May 21, 2002
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BIG OSO LOC said:
THIS PIC IS OUT OF TEEN ANGELS....BACK IN 93...I'D PUT MONEY ON IT THAT THESE FOOLS WERE ONCE NORTENOS AND RANKED OUT....LOOKS CAN BE DECIEVING...

THAT FOOL ON THE RIGHT IS JOEY HERNANDEZ I WAS IN KARL HOLTON WITH THAT FOOL HE WAS A MUTT THEN BUT THEY HADNT STARTED KICKIN IT WITH SCRAPS YET THEY WERE PROGRAMING WITH HOMEBOYS STILL . HE HAD XIV TATTED OVER HIS HEART WHICH LOOKS LIKE ITS COVERED UP NOW .