50 CAL VS The Siccness
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Right on folks. Here's a beat I did kind of recently...(Zion-I So Tall acapella)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/51763310b4437194/
Oh yeah shout out to Vince V for the drums ! Ha..
http://www.zshare.net/audio/51763310b4437194/
Oh yeah shout out to Vince V for the drums ! Ha..
What you fools got on this beat?!?!?!
Some loungy Trip Hop shit. Feel good music.
http://www.zshare.net/audio/5210046383e2bc6f/
Some loungy Trip Hop shit. Feel good music.
http://www.zshare.net/audio/5210046383e2bc6f/
^u getting better homie real talk thats a pretty nice melody. you should eq a little bit sounds like a little too much reverb in the mix. that shit slap though - what vsts did u use?
listen to this i got my timbaland on on this shit (not mixed bounced straight from reason w/ no limiter - its all about your levels/sound selection) i made this beat after hearing hella club shit all night
http://www.zshare.net/audio/52118926f17efe70/
listen to this i got my timbaland on on this shit (not mixed bounced straight from reason w/ no limiter - its all about your levels/sound selection) i made this beat after hearing hella club shit all night
http://www.zshare.net/audio/52118926f17efe70/
Thanks. A lot of reverb, true, but don't you think that adds to the loungy trip hop feel of the track?
I used Vanguard for that 1st Harp sound, Vanguard for the Pads, 4Front Bass Module for the bass, and Imagineline Morphine for the guitar.
Camel Space for FX on the guitar. PSP Vintage Warmer2 on the Master to bring it out some.
I used Vanguard for that 1st Harp sound, Vanguard for the Pads, 4Front Bass Module for the bass, and Imagineline Morphine for the guitar.
Camel Space for FX on the guitar. PSP Vintage Warmer2 on the Master to bring it out some.
That's a cool track btw. I ain't into that style, but I can dig it's sound. It certainly works for a club beat. Those synth stabs sound nice. You should sell this beat for a 100K. Why the fuck not. Take advantage of these silly times. It doesn't take many sounds or complex musical notation to make a hit track these days. Percussion is the main element, from what I notice.
It doesn't take many sounds or complex musical notation to make a hit track these days. Percussion is the main element, from what I notice.
Don't believe me, I just quickly remixed it into a Trance version. I like it a lot better. Lots more energy, but still chill. I like my tracks to change and progress with variations as the song gets longer, I can't really do that with Rap. I get bored and stuck looping. Not to mention, it doesn't help to not have a rapper. Also when you get too musical with Rap beats, sometimes they can end up sounding gay and too uplifting if your melodies go to high and what not. That ain't really the case with other genres. For example, that arpeggiated Harp melody would sound GAY in Rap music, too uplifting. I can really fill a track up when I do other genres, Rap limits me. But that's just me.
http://www.zshare.net/audio/52149003ad10ad93/
Lots more energy, but still chill. I like my tracks to change and progress with variations as the song gets longer, I can't really do that with Rap. I get bored and stuck looping. Not to mention, it doesn't help to not have a rapper. Also when you get too musical with Rap beats, sometimes they can end up sounding gay and too uplifting if your melodies go to high and what not. That ain't really the case with other genres. For example, that arpeggiated Harp melody would sound GAY in Rap music, too uplifting. I can really fill a track up when I do other genres, Rap limits me. But that's just me.http://www.zshare.net/audio/52149003ad10ad93/
Stop lyin....Rap does not limit you..its your talent that limits you, and I mean this in a real way. If you make beats that are what you call more difficult then it should be no problem making a beat you label as simple.The problem is I think is you have spent so much effort doing one thing that you aint really tapped into something else with in you ( G-Funk..) You can have as many changes and progressions in a beat as you want in a rap beat, and there aint no rule to how or what you use, how many bars,etc..I think your beat making method and equipment has been a set-back in a way I do not think you can comprehend...and probably wont go into because if you makin beats with a qwerty and then talk about being limited and not see how you are limiting yourself then what can be said...and yeah i know it aint the equipment..to an extent sure but if you don't think equipment makes a diff..thats pure bullshit as well..I'm not saying hardware VS Software either or $4000 budget vs. $400 budget. I think in some cases (not all cases) music such as yours most of the time is so lifeless and always sounds like it is missing something is because you make music with your eyes, and not your ears...music you are suppose to feel and there has to be some correlation between the way music ( mostly rap and R&B) sounds today with the way some people create it..its a whole other experience....and Before I get in trouble...I aint saying you need any special piece of gear or have to do things one way or the other...I bet Myself or someone else could give you one tip that could up your sound, but I think you are too stubborn to give em a chance.....Oh yeah...check this EPMD song.....I know you gonna love it..its got that feel that is missing not just the talk box but the whole composition....
EPMD- Listen Up ( Feat. Teddy Riley)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/52171424a56e0354/
EPMD- Listen Up ( Feat. Teddy Riley)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/52171424a56e0354/
I see what your saying. But like I said I get really BORED. That's my problem. I ain't got no rapper by my side creating energy, I don't know what the chorus is going to sound like. It's just an empty beat with no lyrics. Rap needs lyrics to help complete the beat & vibe, which I don't have. Listen to a lot of instrumentals, the energy or feeling that your talking about is lost without the rapper in there, it's like a hollow space and you know something is missing. It just sounds too repeatative without the rapper in there. Rap loops a lot. I've never heard a rap beat that buildups from the beginning to the end. The beat usually starts abruptly and ends abruptly, only real change ups for the chorus. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but my point is it's just boring without the lyrics. It's hard to vibe to just the beat itself, most often than not it sounds like it's missing something, which are the lyrics. The voice is an instrument which Rap needs.
Cool beat BTW. The talkbox is definitely an instrument in this beat.
Listen to either my TripHop beat or that last trance beat remix, to understand what I'm trying to say when I say build-ups. Listen to how it takes about a 1minute for the main climax to hit. In both those songs I made, the main climax comes in at 1:03. So it takes a minute to buildup. The beat makes you wait and anticipate the climax. It doesn't need lyrics, the energy comes from the music in that case. Rap doesn't build up like that, that's what I'm trying to say and if it does it becomes unrappable or atleast unconventional sounding. That's just too many pauses and buildups for it to be truely rappable. I don't know man, but maybe I personally have a better ear for genres other than Rap. Maybe I should stick to Triphop, lounge, trance, electronical type stuff.
TripHop:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/5210046383e2bc6f/
Trance Remix:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/52149003ad10ad93/
Cool beat BTW. The talkbox is definitely an instrument in this beat.
Listen to either my TripHop beat or that last trance beat remix, to understand what I'm trying to say when I say build-ups. Listen to how it takes about a 1minute for the main climax to hit. In both those songs I made, the main climax comes in at 1:03. So it takes a minute to buildup. The beat makes you wait and anticipate the climax. It doesn't need lyrics, the energy comes from the music in that case. Rap doesn't build up like that, that's what I'm trying to say and if it does it becomes unrappable or atleast unconventional sounding. That's just too many pauses and buildups for it to be truely rappable. I don't know man, but maybe I personally have a better ear for genres other than Rap. Maybe I should stick to Triphop, lounge, trance, electronical type stuff.
TripHop:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/5210046383e2bc6f/
Trance Remix:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/52149003ad10ad93/
That's a cool track btw. I ain't into that style, but I can dig it's sound. It certainly works for a club beat. Those synth stabs sound nice. You should sell this beat for a 100K. Why the fuck not. Take advantage of these silly times. It doesn't take many sounds or complex musical notation to make a hit track these days. Percussion is the main element, from what I notice.
It doesn't take many sounds or complex musical notation to make a hit track these days. Percussion is the main element, from what I notice.
the past two beats u posted were pretty decent. how many beats do u do a day?
i usually make 1 or 2 beats every 5 days or something.
also i agree with 50 cal you should always take peoples tips into consideration but only if its an actual tip and not just a hater remark. sometimes its hard to tell the difference though. the best way i learn to make beats is to study what i think is hot.
a beat like the one i just posted came from being in the club all night where there were amatuers doing their own music then hearing a professional song right after it. i was thinking about making something that sounded professional - not that typical bay music. i listened to "so fly" i seen how fucking simple that is and its super slap so i just simplified the shit out of my own beat and there u go
take notes from hit songs if u want a hit
I don't make that many beats in a week, maybe 1-4. It just depends on my mood and how much I like it if I want to try to finish it. I don't go in thinking I need to complete a beat or anything. I wouldn't ever consider them completely done though. There's always something that can be added or removed.
My main problem when making Rap beats is percussion. I do better when I find a good looped drum pattern, I can build everything else around it better. Kind of like in that last triphop beat, I used a drumloop. It just sounds good, very natural. It has a dirtyness to it that makes all the percussion blend nicely together. I wouldn't be able to get the same effect from single shot samples, let alone think about playing that same pattern. That drum pattern wouldn't come to my mind that easily.
My main problem when making Rap beats is percussion. I do better when I find a good looped drum pattern, I can build everything else around it better. Kind of like in that last triphop beat, I used a drumloop. It just sounds good, very natural. It has a dirtyness to it that makes all the percussion blend nicely together. I wouldn't be able to get the same effect from single shot samples, let alone think about playing that same pattern. That drum pattern wouldn't come to my mind that easily.
^i use hella loops if u used reason u would recognize that shaker loop from the factory sound bank. dr rex does its job.
that one sample beat i posted the drums were all loops then i just triggered the samples with 1 finger (sounded good to me though) - you were asking about me switching the drums LOL oh yeah that was that mellow beat i think that was pretty much loops too i played the bassline thats about it on that one i think.
dont get me wrong though i can play a beat i can do everything i just use what sounds good to my ears
that one sample beat i posted the drums were all loops then i just triggered the samples with 1 finger (sounded good to me though) - you were asking about me switching the drums LOL oh yeah that was that mellow beat i think that was pretty much loops too i played the bassline thats about it on that one i think.
dont get me wrong though i can play a beat i can do everything i just use what sounds good to my ears
Check this new beat out. I think I ripped this shit up. Just finished it right now. Some WestCoast shit. I put some soul into this one, my fingers are a lil sore. haha
http://www.zshare.net/audio/5218913760f33c38/
50cal where are you!
I put some soul into this one, my fingers are a lil sore. hahahttp://www.zshare.net/audio/5218913760f33c38/
50cal where are you!
Check this new beat out. I think I ripped this shit up. Just finished it right now. Some WestCoast shit. I put some soul into this one, my fingers are a lil sore. haha
http://www.zshare.net/audio/5218913760f33c38/
50cal where are you!
I put some soul into this one, my fingers are a lil sore. hahahttp://www.zshare.net/audio/5218913760f33c38/
50cal where are you!
Thanks. Depends, sometimes I go 4 bars. I tried to keep my melodies shorter this time though. But yeah I feel you on the change ups. The bassline in general is usually what most has to change, but I usually don't. I mean it still works, but like your saying, it could be better with some slight change ups.
Listen to Battlecat's "Cali Iz Active." You can definitely hear the changes in the bassline.
Listen to Battlecat's "Cali Iz Active." You can definitely hear the changes in the bassline.
I'm more of a Alchemist, Premier, E-Swift, Sid Roams fan. If u listen their beats. U will notice that there shit is repetitive. Especially Dj Premiers shit. And he is one of the greatest ever.
What i'm tryin to say is that yall shouldnt worry too much on beats that sound too looped or repetitive. If its hot its hot. I know alot westcoast cats dwell too much on that shit. Nothing wrong with it. Sometimes u gotta get opinons from people from other parts of the world too. Especially cats from the east and the south as well. Which i feel i have an advantage cuz my ghetto studio room is full of Mc's from all over the place every weekend.
What i'm tryin to say is that yall shouldnt worry too much on beats that sound too looped or repetitive. If its hot its hot. I know alot westcoast cats dwell too much on that shit. Nothing wrong with it. Sometimes u gotta get opinons from people from other parts of the world too. Especially cats from the east and the south as well. Which i feel i have an advantage cuz my ghetto studio room is full of Mc's from all over the place every weekend.